Cleaver - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

claudine cleaver

kah372 — 2009-10-15 21:13:35Z

I am looking for any information on Claudine Cleaver, born 1896 in Birmingham, Warwickshire but listed on the 1901 census as being in Tregynon, Montgomereyshire, Wales. She is with the Davies family and described as a grand daughter. I am hoping she is the child of my great great grandmother, Kate Davies (Davis) who married a Cleaver but a Kate is listed on the same 1901 census as single? Very confused with the Cleavers in general! Karenanne

Re: Cleavers

GlendaCleaver15 — 2009-09-21 17:57:43Z

Edward Cleaver married Mary Ann Lait in 1835. sSe was born in about 1816 and died in 1871. His son Edard Junior was born in 1842 and was the Great Grandfather of my husband. Edward cleaver Junior and his siter Catherine came to South africa in the 1860s.
Are you descended from Richard Cleaverthe politician or from one of the other Cleaver brothers?
I have more information if you wish to send me your email address.

Re: Cleavers

robyncleaver — 2009-09-21 15:08:58Z

Edward's son William John Cleaver, born abt 1860, married Mary Ann in 1879. I have him in the house of his brother Alfred in the 1881 Census though. Edward is my g-g-g-grandfather (through William). You seem to have a bit more info concerning Edward than I have. What I am trying to confirm is the name of Edward's wife?

Helen Ridgard

arwg00 — 2009-09-16 17:01:40Z

Lady Helen Ridgard (Dame) Does anyone know how she became a Dame or indeed whether she was a Dame, surely she would have been called Dame Helen Bagshawe? Thank you

GLAZE John Milton and Fay CLEAVER

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-02 19:19:45Z

GLAZE John Milton and Fay CLEAVER

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 205,049 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Cleaver HELP!

KarenConnerPeltier — 2009-08-01 18:57:38Z

I am researching a Nicholas Cleaver from Poland who married Lucy Zuvarnu, also from Poland. They had 6 (known) children. Catherine (1912, Lemberg,Poland - 2009), Mary, Anna, Elsie, Olive, and John. Catherine emigrated to Canada in the spring of 1914 through Halifax, Noca Scotia with her mother and two sisters. I do not know if the other sisters stayed in Poland or came over with Nicholas and John.

Catherine eventually ended up in Mount Clemens, Michigan. She married John Flaga.

Mary married a Phillips.

Anna married a Korneluk

Elsie married a Wisk

Olive married a Bahry

Any help will be appreciated!

Mary Ellen Cleaver, born in 1856 in Va or Kentucky

nancykayrich — 2009-07-24 03:45:23Z

I am looking for a Mary Ellen Cleaver, born in 1865, probably in Virginia, her father was David Cleaver and her mom was Mary. She married a William Hundley and had a daughter Susie Belle.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

CLEAVER Billy L and Virginia Y

t42RoseHill — 2009-06-11 13:22:39Z

CLEAVER Billy L and Virginia Y

I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 204,210 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

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CLEAVER Kenneth Ray 1929-1983

t42RoseHill — 2009-06-10 02:03:14Z

CLEAVER Kenneth Ray 1929-1983

I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 204,210 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Griffith Cleaver KY 1793 and later

tmlodge — 2009-05-16 22:02:01Z

Sorry I took so long to respond. You can send messges directly to my e-mail address, tmlodge@hotmail.com. I have hit a dead end in finding out who the ancestors of Elizabeth Cleaver b 1805 and Edmund Phillips b. 1801 are. They had a dughter Hanna Anne Phillips who married William Ewing Wortham.

Terry Lodge

CLEAVER Curtis L and Gladys L

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-05 21:59:50Z

CLEAVER Curtis L and Gladys L

I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,355 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Coventry Cleavers

tonybannister2 — 2009-04-28 21:16:27Z

Martha Cleaver Father Benjamin Cleaver 186 Mother Sarah Beesley

Married :
18th May 1812 St Michael, Coventry

John Littlewood 1789 23

Children
Sarah Littlewood 1813 Coventry
Benjamin Littlewood 1815 Coventry died 1897 82 Woolwich Sagadahoc Maine
John Littlewood 20 Dec1817 Coventry
Died 1861 Shoreditch
Martha Littlewood 70

cut and paste off a word doc hope it helps
Tony Bannister

Re: Kate Cleaver, Warwickshire

hangumhighclint — 2009-04-17 21:22:48Z

Kate: My name is Clint Edward Cleaver I live In Albuquerque New Mexico USA.. My great grandfather was named Edward Cleaver married to Gertrude Cleaver unknow madien name.. I have been looking for years for relitives.. Both my parents passed when I was young so I have no way to research my history. Mom was adopted. Anyway was hoping that the edward you refering to is somehow related to me My grandfathers name was denman cleaver his father was edward cleaver.

Re: Griffith Cleaver KY 1793 and later

tmlodge — 2009-03-30 18:02:31Z

Dan:

My wife has descendents named Eliabeth Cleaver born 1805 in Grayson County, KY who married a Edmund Phillips born 1801 in Grayson county, KY. are these two part of the Cleavers who sold the land to the Phillips? Their daughter, Hanna Anne Phillips (born 9-10-1827) married William Ewing Wortham (born 8-28-1824) on 3-9-1843.

Terry Lodge tmlodge@hotmail.com

Cleavers of Hillmorton, Warwickshire, Engalnd

zoetoft — 2009-03-25 13:35:11Z

Hello all,

I'm researching the Cleavers of Hillmorton (1700 onwards). If anyone else is researching Hillmorton Cleavers I'd be most happy to swap information.

Zoe

Re: Tasman Cleaver, NYC

tasmancleaver — 2009-03-19 21:53:41Z

Hi Milagros. Wow, it's been like a million years since you posted this, but it was so neat to read it. You can find me on facebook, or you can e-mail me at tasmancleaver@aol.com. Hope to hear from you.

Re: Tasman Cleaver, NYC

tasmancleaver — 2009-03-19 21:51:03Z

Hi, Kelly. It's been like 6 years since you posted this, but who knows maybe this message will find you. You can find me on facebook, or my e-mail address is tasmancleaver@aol.com. Good to hear from you.

Coventry Cleavers

ijblp — 2009-03-17 18:48:06Z

Hi, I have hit a brick wall with a Martha Cleaver b.C1790 in Coventry, Warks. England. She married a John Littlewood also from Coventry. The Littlewoods were Coventry watchmakers for many generations. Any tree matches or information on this couple will be greatly received. Thanks, Jo.

Re: Cleaver family in Australia

martincleaver — 2008-07-17 19:19:25Z

Sorry - that's an old email address - it's now martin@cleaver.nl

Cleaver family in Australia

martincleaver — 2008-07-17 19:18:43Z

I recently come across an address for a great uncle of mine who is thought to have emigrated to Australia in the 1920s. He is probably George Percy Cleaver, born in London UK in 1873, my grandfather's brother and one of 9 children of George J. Cleaver, a (violin)cellist.

The address is:
Mr G Cleaver
36 Beach Road
Edgecliffe
Sydney
Australia

Does anyone know whether this address still exists, or have any Cleaver relatives who may have lived there in the 1920s?

I gather George jumped ship fromm a liner in the 1920s (he was a musici8an on board) and had a daughter Aida in Syndey.

Does this ring any (antipodean) bells?

Regards

Martin Cleaver (mcleaver@altavista.net)
Amsterdam/Harwich,UK

Cleaver, 1940-1950

patti600 — 2008-08-23 04:34:39Z

My Aunt, Dorothy Rae (Weatherwax) Fisher was married to Mr. Cleaver, first name as yet unknown. They had a child, Marta Jean, prob. born ab.t 1940-1950 or so. Dorothy died in 1984 in FL. I am hoping to connect with someone who knew the family - or possibly with even Marta herself. The family split up and I never knew my aunt or cousin. They may have lived in CA, or possibly CO. I don't have much info but hoping it might ring a bell with someone.

thanks,
Patti

Re: Dr Israel Cleaver (PA) -> Wilbur M Cleaver (NY) -> Edith/Robert Cleaver ? (NY)

lkranieri — 2008-08-05 12:03:17Z

Hi,
I sent you a direct reply through Ancestry.com. I have a connection to Dr. Cleaver through his mother and have extensive information (and photos) about her family. I have a copy of his obit, which also has an image of him.
If you did not get my reply, please click on my posting name here and send me your e-mail address through that and I will send you copies of what I have.

Dr Israel Cleaver (PA) -> Wilbur M Cleaver (NY) -> Edith/Robert Cleaver ? (NY)

lkranieri — 2008-05-20 14:25:41Z

I am not a direct descendant of Dr. Israel Cleaver, but I am looking for members of his family, to share information about our common ancestor(s). Dr. Cleaver (Civil War surgeon) died in Reading in 1926 and was married to Lorena Moore. At the time of his death he had three children: Wilbur M. Cleaver (NY), Helen Guthrie Cleaver (PA), Hattie Cleaver Boas and a brother, John Westley Cleaver. In the 1910 census for NYC 40 year old Wilbur lived with his wife, Grace M of CT and his mother-in-law, Mary H Sumner. In the 1920 census Wilbur was living in NYC, married to Grace S of CT, and had a 15 year old son named Robert S. In the 1930 census, son Wilbur (NYC) had a wife named Emilie P. and a 14 year old daughter named Edith M. Cleaver.

Are you related to any of these Cleavers?

Cleaver Family Tree

bacleaver — 2008-03-01 01:44:43Z

Hey been working on my Cleaver Family Tree...
Would like to have others to compare..
Starting w/ Brian Cleaver going back to Klever..
and the tree of my mothers side Pope

Cleaver family from Sulgrave, Northamptonshire

SandraClare82 — 2008-09-03 15:31:05Z

Hi, I am researching the Cleaver family from sulgrave as I am a direct descendant. I can trace my line back to John Cleaver (1737) and his wife Elizabeth How (c1745). I have tried to find their descendants but I keep stumbling on all the John's that appear in and around the village. can any one help?

Kate Cleaver, Warwickshire

kah372 — 2009-02-26 22:59:13Z

Hi, does any one have any more information on Kate Cleaver, born in Wales, 1854. She married Harry Cleaver and had three children

Richard 1884
Emma 1888
Eva 1890

(I think Eva may be my great grandmother, Eva Hannah Kate who married (E Goode) and had 4 children - Irene, Claudine, Edward and Eva.

Karenanne

Re: CLEAVER research

JennyN67 — 2008-07-12 10:58:45Z

Hi Barb, I think I am loosly connected if your Alfred had parents Thomas Cleaver and Caroline.

Thomas was a brother of Richard Cleaver b 1851 (My GG Grandfather.)

My email is jenny@freewayclc.org if you wish to get in touch.

Re: Cleaver Family Ont,Canada

khubbs181 — 2008-07-16 20:32:12Z

Walter and Hannah had nine children.
Walter died 14 May 1892 in Sullivan, Grey County at age 64
Hannah died 12July 1903 in Grey County, at age 76.

Re: Cleaver Convict

annatsolva — 2008-07-11 17:41:16Z

Hi Wendy
Just seen you post about Llewellyn Cleaver, he is in my family tree and comes from Tetbury. I have just started researching this line, so am interested in exchanging information, my ggg grandfather was James Cleaver b1800c, Llewellyn brother, if I have the right connection.
Regards
Ann

Re: Cleaver Convict

annatsolva — 2008-10-20 16:38:19Z

Thanks line have picked up that site already.
Regards
Ann

Re: Cleaver Convict

lynnecleaver — 2008-10-20 14:08:58Z

check out my webiste www.tetburyfamilies.co.uk. This line of Cleavers is my husbands family line, in Tetbury since at least 1600.
Lynne

Cleaver Family

katie1994b — 2008-12-10 07:30:22Z

Ok so I'm doing my family tree to find a massive hinderence; my nan doesn't know her mothers maiden name and because there was a fight with her siblings i cannot ask them. I know that my Great-Nan married a Arther Smith (my Great-Pop) and that they had seven children together; including my Nan. My Nan was born in 1938 and is the one of the younger children. If you could help me I'ld be grateful.

Re: Cleaver Family

karanmayo — 2008-12-10 13:26:04Z

Hi, the best thing to do is to get your nan's birth cert. this will have her mother's, father's names and where she was born.

Cleaver's from KENT, ENGLAND

wiltshirelass — 2007-11-28 11:22:22Z

I am researching my Cleaver family tree. I have got quite a bit of info but wouls like more. All the Cleaver's in my tree were born in Kent, England. So far I have got back as far as my great great great great grandfathe James Cleaver who was born c1780 and I think he married a girl called Elizabeth Finch born c1790 also in Kent.
I would really like toknow who James' paremts were and if he had any siblings. I know that James and Elizabeth had a son, William Cleaver c1815 who was my great great great grandfather and he married an Eliza Newton c1818, again both born in Kent. Eliza was recorded as an invalid in 1881 and 1891 censu. She was infact blind. Again, I would like to know if William had any siblings. I know that William and Eliza had the following children:- James 1838,(married Hannah Wall and had 2 sons), William c1841 (married Elizabeth Cheeseman and had 3 daughters and 1 son), George 1843, Eliza 1845 (married William Marsh and had 5 sons), Sarah 1850 (married John Asle and had 2 sons), Alfred 1853 (married Elizabeth Maple and had 4 sons and 4 daughters), Edwin 1855 (married Emily ? and had 5 sons and 6 daughters) and finaly Frederick 1859 (married Frances Page and had 6 children). Frederick and Frances were my great great grandparents.

I have got more information which I am willing to share. I would especialy like to find out any information on my great grandfather's brother who was Herbert Cleaver 1893 and emigrated to Canada in 1911 and married Amy Jane Hayward in 1912. Did they have any children etc?

Re: Cleavers in West Virginia

WildaHogbin26 — 2008-03-28 00:48:42Z

Hi Lisa, I have records back that far but I don't have anything on her, most of my research was done in Hardy County, WV. I didn't run across her anywhere. Sorry I can't help you.

Wilda

Re: Cleaver's from Islington area of London

sylvanna237 — 2007-11-21 02:53:42Z

Hi, sorry but Arthur didn't emigrate to Australia, he stayed in England. He is now deceased and I have no idea where any of his children etc. would be.

Re: Cleaver's in Australia

sylvanna237 — 2007-11-21 02:51:50Z

Hello, yes Frederick Cleaver was born in London in 1911 and his wife was born in Gateshead in 1916. Her name was Antonia Risi. They married in 1937 in London and had a daughter called Marguerite also born in London in 1938. Frederick didn't serve in the Army. He served in the Royal Navy in England during WWII. After that they emigrated to Australia in 1951. I am their second daughter. They are both deceased now. If you need any further information please leave an e-mail address.

Re: Looking for my aunt Ivy's family in Isle of Wight

sylvanna237 — 2007-11-21 02:43:00Z

Hi, I live in Australia and yes, your Aunt Ivy is living in the Isle of Wight. She re-married a few years ago. She is my Father's sister. His name is Frederick. Arthur didn't move to Australia, but Dad did. There's only Ivy and another Sister called Eileen still alive. Eileen lives in Brundall UK. Please leave your e-mail address so I can contact you.

Re: FRANCIS CLEAVER

HEwerz — 2008-01-16 03:58:41Z

thank you so much! i'm researchcing the buckley's. margaret is my 2nd great-grandaunt.

Re: FRANCIS CLEAVER

AnnMartindale58 — 2008-01-15 20:50:14Z

By Now you may alreadyhave this info, but if you don't here it is. Francis Cleaver married Margaret F. Buckley About 1878. Children are John William Cleaver, 1879, Thomas Cleaver 1884, Mary Cleaver 1887, anad Albert Cleaver 1890. Is it the Cleavers or the Buckleys you are researching? Mine is from the Cleaver side. My husband's mother was a Cleaver. I have more information on the Cleavers if that is what you need.

Re: Cleavers in West Virginia

lmmilhaven1 — 2008-03-27 20:27:36Z

Sorry. Typo. Mary Ann Cleaver was born about 1786. She married Joseph Sellers on April 5, 1804 in Lebanon, PA and died March 28, 1868 in Las Vegas, NV but was buried in Erie, PA.

Thanks,
Lisa

Re: Cleavers in West Virginia

lmmilhaven1 — 2008-03-27 19:55:05Z

Hi Wilda,

I am looking for a Mary Ann Cleaver who was born in 1768 in Tyler County, WV. Do your records on the Cleavers go back that far? I'm wondering if she is related to the line you are researching.

She moved to PA and married Joseph Sellers. I'm looking for info on her parents.

Thanks for any help.

Lisa

Re: John Cleaver, Australia

jnws — 2008-10-27 07:35:18Z

I have info on a John and Charlotte Cleaver who emigrated to Tasmania in March 1855.
John was born about 1812 and Charlotte about 1815

They travelled with a son William and duaghter Charlotte
Is this the same family ?

rgds
John

Re: Cleaver's from KENT, ENGLAND

terrycleaver — 2007-12-08 04:02:55Z

Hi Angela,

Ive just sent the below email to your email address and posted it below, looks like we're related!:

Hope you don't mind me emailing you. I am Terry Cleaver a direct descendent of William Cleaver or Clever born 1815 in Westbere, Kent who married Eliza Newton in 1838, the same year their eldest son James Cleaver was born (Dec 1838) in Whitstable/Swalecliffe.

I found your post on a rootsweb message board and thought it would be best to email you as I don't have a username on there. I have yet to find another Cleaver relative who I didnt know existed related to our Kent line. I still live in Kent, infact in Dover only say 14 miles from Westbere.

Your comment is below:

"

I am researching my Cleaver family tree. I have got quite a bit of info but wouls like more. All the Cleaver's in my tree were born in Kent, England. So far I have got back as far as my great great great great grandfathe James Cleaver who was born c1780 and I think he married a girl called Elizabeth Finch born c1790 also in Kent.
I would really like toknow who James' paremts were and if he had any siblings. I know that James and Elizabeth had a son, William Cleaver c1815 who was my great great great grandfather and he married an Eliza Newton c1818, again both born in Kent. Eliza was recorded as an invalid in 1881 and 1891 censu. She was infact blind. Again, I would like to know if William had any siblings. I know that William and Eliza had the following children:- James 1838,(married Hannah Wall and had 2 sons), William c1841 (married Elizabeth Cheeseman and had 3 daughters and 1 son), George 1843, Eliza 1845 (married William Marsh and had 5 sons), Sarah 1850 (married John Asle and had 2 sons), Alfred 1853 (married Elizabeth Maple and had 4 sons and 4 daughters), Edwin 1855 (married Emily ? and had 5 sons and 6 daughters) and finaly Frederick 1859 (married Frances Page and had 6 children). Frederick and Frances were my great great grandparents.

I have got more information which I am willing to share. I would especialy like to find out any information on my great grandfather's brother who was Herbert Cleaver 1893 and emigrated to Canada in 1911 and married Amy Jane Hayward in 1912. Did they have any children etc?"

To answer some of your questions, although I think your posing more questions to me actually! But here goes...

James Clever or Cleaver is William Cleaver's father. That I do know from receiving William's marriage cert to Eliza Newton with the following details:

Married in the Parish Church of Whitstable, 13 May 1838: Willm Clever, 24 and Eliza Newton, 21 Bachelor and Spinster respectively. William is a labourer, very common in the Cleaver line! Both living in Whitstable at time of marriage, Eliza's home town. His father James Clever, a labourer. Her father Wm Newton, a labourer.

Details from James Cleaver's birth cert:

September 14th 1838, born in Whitstable (District of Blean) James, Male, Father: William Cleaver, Mother: Eliza Cleaver formerly Newton,
Registered: Sept 28th 1838

I have not heard of Elizabeth Finch as yet so that is most interesting and I have only recently got back as far as James you mention. It appears that name is a common name in the family hence the male descendent line to myself:

1) James Cleaver or Clever
2) William Cleaver and Eliza Newton
3) James Cleaver and Hannah Wall
4) Israel Moses Cleaver and Alice Joiner
5) Frederick Charles Cleaver and Ellen Fagg
6) Victor James Cleaver and Barbara Ellen Dennis
7) Anthony James Cleaver and Diane June Henley
8) Terry Jay Cleaver (myself)

That is how I am descended via James Cleaver born 1838 eldest son of William and Eliza. James married in 1838 did have two sons, James George Cleaver (eldest) and Israel Moses Cleaver who I am descended from, and we are still trying to work out where the unusual name came from too! Eliza is recorded as invalied in the cenus and If I remember rightly they had a nurse looking after her when they were living in Cheesman's Farm, Acol on the Isle of Thanet.

I believe as I have found them in 1901 living with daughter Sarah and her husband whose surname I have as ASH from the census not the ASLE you have (!) were living in the Faversham area, Luddenham to be precise. It is known we have a lot of relatives in Sittingbourne area but as yet we don't know where they fit on the tree.

Of William's (and Eliza's) children this is the details I have:

Alfred b app 1853 Chislet married Elizabeth b. 1854 Littlebourne, Had children: Alfred, George, Eliza(s), William, Albert H, Arthur, Edwin F, Ellen E, and Louisa M

Edwin b. 1855 Chislet married Emily b 1855 Fordwich, had children: I have 12 children!!!

Frederick b. 1859 Kent married Frances b, 1855 Eythorne: 5 children

Sarah Ann b. 1850 Chislet married John Ash. Two children, Sydney John and Charles Thomas

William b. 1840 in Westbere, married Elizabeth b, 1841 Bekesbourne: 4 children

So I take it you are descended from Frederick b. 1859 and Frances? Although for their kids I have: William, Frederick, Edith, Frances and Mabel. No mention of a Herbert, where does Herbert fit in? Be most interesting to know.

By the way my whole tree is online @ http://terrycleaver.tribalpages.com - do have a look, might make it much easier to comprehend! By the way William born 1815 is also my GGG grandad, meaning we must be on the same generation. Are u based in Kent or UK? Be interesting to know of any Canadian connections, so far I just thought we were Kent through and through, we still are down my side.

Do please email me back with some info and I hope I have helped a little.

Best wishes

Terry Cleaver
Dover, Kent, UK

Re: John Cleaver, Australia

ccacciapuoti — 2008-11-09 20:48:49Z

Your John and Charlotte married 26 Feb 1844 at Saint Martins Birmingham.
There are many Cleavers there.

Re: Cleaver Convict

runvs76 — 2008-03-30 06:24:04Z

hi wendy,
i know it has been a while since youre posting but i have a convict Llewellyn cleaver on "earl grey", i am at the moment trying to trace any relatives through him

Re: John Cleaver, Australia

jjoyce119 — 2008-10-27 23:58:22Z

Could be Same names
Did they come to NSW after Tasmania

Birth Fraktur of son of Ellen C. Cleaver of Oley, Berks County, PA

richard_m_parker — 2008-02-08 00:52:49Z

The following is the text of the birth and baptism fraktur for Franklin Peter C. Griesemer of Manatawny, Oley Township, Berks County, PA. Franklin is a son of Ellen C. Cleaver and John B. Griesemer. A link to a scan of the text portion of the fraktur is at http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pen...

CERTICATE OF BIRTH AND BAPTISM
Franklin Peter C. Griesemer a Son of John B. Griesemer and wife Ellen C. daughter of Franklin F. Cleaver was born on the 29th day of February in the year of our Lord, 1896, in the Township of Oley in the county of Berks in the State of Pennsylvania in North America; and was baptized on the 26th of April in the year of out Lord, 1896, by the Rev'd E. S. Brownmiller. Sponsors were The Parents.

Re: Dr Israel Cleaver (PA) -> Wilbur M Cleaver (NY) -> Edith/Robert Cleaver ? (NY)

chescogen — 2008-08-04 01:18:30Z

Yep, these mare mine! Hattie Cleaver Boas was my great grandmother. I have a number of family pieces form that side, including the engraved walking stick that Dr. Israel was given by his class, as well as the big wooden chest he used to store his medical supplies when he started his practice in Philipsburg.

Can you tell me more about Isreal's siblings? I have his parents and the rest of the line back to Peter, but I'm missing most of the siblings along the way.

John Harvey, f/o Robyn PADFIELD & Brian Harvey CLEAVER, all born Australia

cleaverbh — 2009-01-23 14:17:23Z

My name is Benjamin Harvey Cleaver, I was born in Sunbury, Victoria, Australia on the 11th July 1984 to my parents Brian Harvey Cleaver and Robyn Padfield (former maiden). My Fathers Father is John Harvey Cleaver who lives in Taralgon, and was born in Australia. And I do know that my great grandpa's name was Gerald Harvey Cleaver... Further back from then I do not know, I would be interested to find out.

Regards
Ben Cleaver