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Looking for the parents of Elizabeth Ann Colbert

DennisAAdams — 2012-06-03 04:25:03Z

I'm having a difficult time trying to figure out who Elizabeth Ann (Colbert) Stewart's parents were. This can be a bit confusing because Elizabeth Ann (Colbert) Stewart's daughter was named Elizabeth Ann Holder.

I've found this quoted from the National Archives - Southwest Region: "On 8 August 1894, J.S. Wolfe, 82 y.o slave of Jim Wolfe who lived his entire life with the Chickasaw, that Elizabeth Ann Stewart Holder was the granddaughter of Old John Colbert. He acted as the interpreter for Old John at the indian land sales in Ponotoc, Mississippi. He related that George Stewart , (Eliabeth Ann Colbert's Husband) who died after being snagged under the eye with a cane. He personanaly knew Ben, William, and Lewis, children of Elizabeth Holder."

She seems to have been born around 1774, but it's not at all clear who Old John was.

I'd be grateful for any of your thoughts.

Dennis

"old John" Colbert

DennisAAdams — 2012-06-01 05:46:51Z

I have found several instances where a reference is made to "old John" such as this quote "3. On 8 August 1894, J.S. Wolfe, 82 y.o slave of Jim Wolfe who lived his entire life with the Chickasaw, that Elizabeth Ann Stewart Holder was the granddaughter of Old John Colbert. He acted as the interpreter for Old John at the indian land sales in Ponotoc, Mississippi. "

or this one

" stated he knew George Stewart was a Chickasaw in Mississippi and that he married Old John Colbert's daughter and that George and Elizabeth Ann Colbert Stewart's daughter married a man named Holder."

But I can't actually figure out who "Old John Colbert" was. Is "Old John" a nickname for James Logan Colbert?

Confused!

Re: Catherine Colbert (1906)

sharyn711 — 2012-05-30 02:45:24Z

Our Colberts were from either Waterford or Cork. circa 1860's The towns are in close proximity to each other. Robert Arnold's spouses name is unknown. I'm sure he must have had siblings. His children were Robert and William. The name Robert Arnold was given to the eldest male in the family. Robert Arnold Colbert, the first through the fourth. There are also William, Edwards, Raymond Lawrence, Donald LeRoy, Then there were the two sisters, Cleo and Shirley. Williams daughter is Margaret. Robert Arnold II"s wife was Sarah Parker. sarah had a sister Abygail. Our great grand father Robert Arnold III was born in Montreal Quebec in 1893 and his brother 1897. Their dad must have had siblings.

Catherine Colbert (1906)

gotmilkpgc — 2012-05-29 23:21:04Z

Trying to find any info on the above person. Circa 1906, Waterford,Ireland. She was deported from New york in mid 1930's due to illness. Her daughter, Margaret Catherine Colbert (my mother) was left behind at the New York Foundling hospital and raised through foster care system.

Re: Colberts in Pittsylvania County, Va.

Colbert_Richard — 2012-05-24 18:18:33Z

I just found out from Family Tree DNA that I am a 4th cousin of the Colbert's of PittMy 4th GG Thomas Calvert/Colvard was a blacksmith and owned a tavern in the town of Halifax, NC between 1758 and 1768. Then he moved west to Bute (now Franklin and Warren) Co., NC. During the American Rev. my 4th GG Thomas moved back to Halifax where he made muskets for the
Continental Army under Col. Nicholas Long. He died in 1785.
My 3rd GG Thomas was in the first U.S. Census of Franklin Co., NC of 1790 under the name Thomas Colbert. The family has kept the Colbert name since then. Thomas died in 1846. It is unknown how many children Joseph Calvert or his son
Thomas Calvert/Colvard had.

Re: Colbert wills

Colbert_Richard — 2012-05-11 20:02:39Z

Hello,
Ira Colbert of Lamar County, TX was my 2nd GG and Thomas Colbert (Colvard) of Franklin Co., NC was my 3rd GG.

Are you related?
Richard A. Colbert

Descendants of Joseph Richard Colbert, Jr.

Colbert_Richard — 2012-05-11 19:54:16Z

Looking for descendants of Joseph Richard Colbert, Jr. He had son born ca. 1946 and was living in California in 1970's when he died. Son's name may have been Joe or Jody ??? When Joe Richard's son died, the son had one or two young children (names unknown).

Re: Alvin Colbert

Colbert_Richard — 2012-05-11 19:46:31Z

Bobbie,
Archibald Jackson Colbert was the progenitor of the Colbert family in Ocala, FL. Archibald was born in 1830 in Franklin Co., NC. He was the illegitimate son of Hicksey Colbert, daughter of Thomas Colbert and Vashti Pinnell Colbert.
Hicksey later married Henry Dorsey in 1836 and had two daughters Demarious and Susan J.
Archibald went to Smith Co., TN in 1840's with his two half-sisters and Henry Dorsey. He later married Mary Timberlake, daughter of Rev. Timberlake who married them.
They had son James who moved to Ocala, FL in 1875. Family in Smith Co., TN has correspondence (letters) written between the families in Smith Co, TN and Ocala, FL.

Re: Colbert Family Tree

Colbert_Richard — 2012-05-11 19:37:57Z

Saw your message dated 12 years ago. The progenitor of the Ocala, FL Colbert's is Archibald Jackson Colbert, born 1830 in Franklin Co., NC.
He moved to Smith Co, TN ca. 1844 with his mother and Henry Dorsey, the Timberlake, Stallings, Driver, and Conduit families and lived in Snow Creek area.
His son James Colbert moved to Ocala, FL in 1875.

Re: Colberts - Pittsburgh/Allegheny County Area

free2btac — 2012-04-23 22:40:09Z

My father is Frank Joseph Colbert, born November 24, 1924, in Homestead, PA. His father, Frank Sr., was born February 19, 1895, in Homestead, PA. His birth name was William Francis Colbert. He took "Joseph" as his confirmation name and later dropped the William, going by "Frank J. Colbert". He had two brothers named Howard Colbert and Harry Colbert. Both married and had children. Their father, Jesse Augustus Colbert, was from Johnstown area. My grandfather, Frank Sr., died July 31, 1945, while my father was overseas in WWII. He and my grandmother, Helen Theresa O'Brien Colbert Kastner, are buried at St. Joseph's Cemetary in Warren, PA. Grandma went by "Theresa" and was born in Whittaker, PA.
My grandfather had two brothers, Howard and Harry, both of whom married and had children. My dad recalls a cousin Charles, son of Howard Colbert, with whom he had quite a bikeride on the road between Tidioute and Torpedo after my grandparents moved to Garland, PA. Two of my aunts, my father's sisters, Rita Colbert Boyer and Peg Colbert Holcomb, used to work on the family history. My Aunt Rita died in April, 1991, and Aunt Peg passed away on July 9, 2009. The youngest of the family, Thomas Anthony Colbert, passed away on November 19, 2011. My father is still living, as are two of his siblings: younger sisters, Dolores Colbert Keister Kaufman, and Patricia Colbert Smith, both living in Westfield, NY. I would love to know if anyone of the "Colbert Clan" recognizes any of the names I put above.

Re: Fleming Colbert and Chickasaw Nation connection?

king_stephanie — 2012-04-17 02:38:27Z

I have a book named "Descendent Of William Collbert" written in 1956 and it list Fleming Colbert as his first born.(I am descended from Andrew Jackson Colbert) There is little imformation about Fleming's descendents. If i had more names I'd be glad to look for you. The book says William Colbert was born in N. Carolina possibly to Obediah Colbert and moved to Georgia as a young man. I just got the book from my aunt so have not gotten very far in the reading.
Stephanie

Re: Colberts in Illinois

mothertotwo — 2012-03-30 23:25:34Z

Sandra it will not let me contact you, my email is: mothertotwo@aol.com
please send me a message

Re: Colberts in Illinois

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-30 21:53:27Z

Not such a long shot since you have found us. Email me directly.

Colberts in Illinois

mothertotwo — 2012-03-30 20:29:54Z

My name is Melissa Colbert
My family is from Equality, Harrisburg, Saline County Il
We have a Colbert Cementary.
I know this is a long shot I am looking for people that may be related to me or know some of my history.

Some of my relatives:
Willard Colbert
Margie Healy
Helen Flanders
and list goes on

Re: Colbert Family - Chickasaw

carterv55 — 2012-03-30 06:39:20Z

I just ran across this post, and am looking form information on William Colbert, from MS, ARK, TX and some children ended up in Oklahoma.I would appreciate any help that you can help with. I do have a page on ancestry. My GGG grandmother was Rachel Colbert (Burney), GG Nancy Folsom (Fulsom). It has been a complicated ordeal. Any info you can provide would be much appreciated. Email me directly at carterv55@yahoo.com.

Re: Jesse and Susanna Allen Colbert

karenwest1975 — 2012-03-23 21:11:11Z

I believe that Susanna Allen Colbert is the daughter of Belora and Rachel Inman, 1850 Census-Beverly Township, Adams Co. Illinois. She was the 2nd wife of John Allen and
John Allen died March 1864 and was buried in the Allen Family Cemetery, Beverly Twp. Adams Co. Illinois Susanna then married Jesse Colbert on May 1, 1868, Pike Co IL.

Re: Elijah Colbert

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 17:35:28Z

I have not checked out the Rutherford group much really. The group is later than I have been researching, but wouldn't surprise me if somehow they connected. Our Colbert DNA hasn't matched with anyone else, but now known family members. What that means I don't know, but Haplotype is I2a, and there are some I's in the Calvert grouping. The PW groupung is English haplotype in the RBi grouping I have files on lots of Colbert's/Calvert's/various spelling, etc. Minkie turned up and so did the others in the Carolina's. There is also a Tamer (another female and not a James as some have changed that to). I believe she may have been John's wife. I will check further into the DNA and see how things are working out there. What exactly do you want to know?

There are Covington's in early Goochland, and John Calvert with the Huguenot's there early also. Again, what that means I don't know. His sons did go on to the Carolina's, William, Anthony, I think if memory serves. Others went on to TN and elsewhere. The Covington's married into the Colbert's early, and I forget where in the south I have the census for that. Later, they are in our Henry Colbert family connections, and Henry was in IL, and went on to ARK. The daughter married into the Rose family, and the family was large and entailed two wives so there are lots of connections there.

Re: Elijah Colbert

pcolbert2 — 2012-03-23 11:42:22Z

I'm confused....did not think that your DNA was a match with the Rutherford group. Also...have you seen the Minkie name elsewhere than the one I have .... married to William Colbert of Rutherford (1850 Census). Specifically...who were the Covington's that you have in your line?

Re: Elijah Colbert

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 06:09:21Z

I forgot to mention that my Colbert's do have some Covington tie ins.

Re: Elijah Colbert

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 06:08:04Z

I have run across all of these names and try to sort them all out. The people in Rutherford are later than my family, but who knows, they may all relate.

Re: Elijah Colbert

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 06:06:05Z

I can check for you. David is probably not available, and I help with the Colbert DNA with the Calvert site. However, email me directly with the information to follow through on this rather than put it all here.

Re: searching for grandfathers kin

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 05:58:49Z

The Frohock's and Colbert's are related in So. IL through the Baker's there. However, the migration patterns could be similar. John and Thomas Frohock, and William came from Bucks Co. PA to Rowan Co, Carolina, but records are found in various counties. They were Tories aligned with the colonial government and the courts so names are on a lot of records. I would be really interested in what you found in GA, The descendants of Thomas and son Alexander wound their way through Tenn, KY, and on into IL where they settled. There was another Frohock family also in Maine same time, early 1700's, as the ancestor of the IL Frohock's, and both were named John. They trace back to England. If you find more to indicate other relationships with the families you mention I would be very interested.

My Colbert's are believed to derive from an Elisha of Elbert/Madison/Franklin Co., GA, though not totally proven. Elisha had inherited land there from a James, who I think was wed to a Susannah, and I believe he died about 1783, but land did not get passed on since James warranted bounty land but never had it granted. Finally, it was granted after several court sessions in 1798. Elisha started paying taxes in Franklin Co, GA then, 1798 and did so till 1802. Most of the Colbert's moved out of GA around that time, and Elisha may have gone on to KY/VA about that time. By 1807 he is noted as a "squatter" on land in Randolph Co. in what was to become Gallatin Co, IL. He later sold the land back in GA in 1806 to a William, possibly the one of 1772 or his son William. Our DNA is strongly related to a William Colbert of 1772 who was in Greene/Hancock, GA, and later went on to AL, MS, and sons went to LA. The early James and William are likely brothers. Still looking to prove James, Susannah, and Elisha to some extent, but all the evidence, censuses, deeds, etc., along with the vast research done on the William of 1772 family indicate my Colbert's relate. Making sense also is an earlier William as a possible father of both, so working on that as well. I do think they were in the Carolina's, but where I can't pin down, and they may have been earlier in VA for there are early Calbert's/Colbert's there. Nicholas Culbert/Colbert warranted land in the 1740's in Bute, so he is another possibility.

With your Colvard's, the Clary's might be helpful to look into. Somewhere there are answers for all of us -- we hope.

Re: Elijah Colbert

pcolbert2 — 2012-03-23 03:10:29Z

I have been following this line of thought, but my husband had surgery so have not had the time to respond.
Sandra, There is so much simularity...and then you mentioned Minkie. Odd name...so...is this a different line that mine...the one out of Rutherford, NC? Minkie was the wife of a William Colbert (who I believe was a brother to John Colbert) Both William and John were living next to each other in Rutherford, NC in 1850. Did you find her AFTER he died (1860) William died in Rutherford and appears on the Mortality Schedule. I don't know when/where John died, but suspect it was in Rutherford after 1850...that is the last census I found him. John was married to someone named Syntha. John was the person who signed the marriage bond for Alexander Colbert when he married Mary Sutton in Rutherford (1834). William (1780) and John (1785)both state they were born in NC. Minkie and Syntha in VA. Alexander said he was born in SC. Alex and his first wife had several of their children in SC before moving to Lumpkin County, GA just prior to the 1840 Census.
Alexander married twice. His first wife Mary Sutton states that she was born in Tn. His second wife, Mary Covington was born in NC. Alex's second wife bore him a son that he named Elisha.
Is this Minkie you are talking about found somewhere other than in Rutherford, NC. When she shows up with William Colbert in 1850 she is 84 years old...14 years older than her husband.

Re: Elijah Colbert

soulard2 — 2012-03-23 02:06:59Z

This is really interesting. Alexander had a son, John Alexander Calvert, b. Virginia 1809 and died in Jefferson Co, IL. My sample was Ernie Calvert in the FTDNA site. I have been trying to find another descendent of Alexander to find out whether the father of Cynthia's children was a Calvert. I think I will contact David Bell and ask him to look at the two. This is very exciting news.

Re: searching for grandfathers kin

Colbert_Richard — 2012-03-23 02:01:44Z

Sandra,

I think that the Frohock and my Calvert/Colbert/Colvard family are somehow connect, but I'm not sure how.

Wherever I look, I find Frohocks's. They are not necessarily from the same family every time, but they could be brothers, cousins, etc.

For instance, there are Frohock's in western NC, in Bute (Franklin and Warren)NC, in Elbert Co., GA with other Colberts, and in Illinois.

It could be the Frohock's and Calverts (variant spellings) are just following the same migration paths, or it could be something else that neither of us are aware of.

I did find a couple of things of interest in Bute Co. In addition to finding the Frohocks, I also found the Stokley and Basford (Bashford) families living there.

John and wife Mary were living in Bute/Warren Co. before 1774.

May Court 1774:
Ordered that the hands of Adkin McLamore, Benjamin Kendall, Nathaniel Peebles, William Bagley, John Hawskins, Young McLamore, ...
JOHN STOKLEY...do lay off a road the best & Convenient Way ...and open & Clear the same & that Nathaniel Henderson be overseer of the same.

John Stokley and his wife lived in Warren Co as late as 1797
when my 3rd GG Thomas Colvard was a constable for Franklin Co. There was also a Jehu Stokley living in Warren Co., but I'm not sure what relationship the two Stokley's had with one another.

Benson Basford and his wife Penting also lived in Bute/Warren Co, NC around the same period of time.

I believe John Stokley Colvard had a brother named William Bashford Colvard in Elbert Co., GA.

If the Stokley and Basford families from Bute/Warren NC are related to John S. and William B. Colvard of Elbert Co, then the possibility exists that my 4th GG Thomas Colvard of Halifax and Franklin Co may be their father and my 3rd GG Thomas Colvard is their brother.
Richard
P.S. DNA shows that I am related to a Colvard family that lived in west NC during the 1700's and early 1800's. So I have DNA relatives using both the Colvard and Colbert name.

Re: Elijah Colbert

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 01:36:17Z

Well, perhaps. There is a John A. Colbert whose family was in Jefferson Co., IL, wed into the Innman's, and the DNA matches with the PW Calverts. thinking is that John A. descends from an Alexander or, at least, that is my understanding. Maybe I should compare DNA with you if you match Rose's and Neal/McNeil? My Colbert's haven't matched with anyone else so far, but I have Rose's in my maternal line and find the families overlap back when. Tangled webs!!

Re: Elijah Colbert

soulard2 — 2012-03-23 01:30:10Z

Alexander, son of Cynthia, is my line. The DNA sample our part of the family submitted does not fit in with the Calverts. It matches Ross (Rose) or MacNeill. Do you know of another descendent of Alexander who had DNA tested?

Re: searching for grandfathers kin

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 01:29:49Z

I keep forgetting to mention that there was, and still is, a family of Dorsey's who lived in Gallatin Co., IL very early. Joseph Calvert also was in White Co., carved out of early Gallatin, d. 1817 and had a large family. He was also earlier in GA.

Re: Elijah Colbert

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 01:26:03Z

So Minkie, who lived to a ripe old age, according to census info is female and wife of a John Colbert. Good to know.

Re: Elijah Colbert

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-23 01:23:11Z

The Bible record indicating a marriage to a Lee seems to indicate a Calvert connection. Where Cynthia fits in totally isn't understood, but the Alexander fits with Calvert's according to DNA findings. There were a number of Calvert's in early KY. The Elijah Calvert I have noted lived in Gallatin/later Hardin Co. I have some land and census records but not on this computer. There were also PW Calverts in Jefferson Co., who called themselves Colbert. I think the upheaval of the Revolution and all the migration, just made it a necessity not to associate with the Tory side of the government back when.

Re: Elijah Colbert

soulard2 — 2012-03-23 01:02:26Z

I wonder where he was in 1820. Cynthia was living with a free white male under 16 and a free black female 14-45. The Elijah in Smith in 1830 was 40-50 years old, living with what looks like a free black family. He could not have been part of Cynthia's household in 1820 since he was too old to be the white male from 1820. She would have been about 60 at the time in 1820. Do you know about when your Elijah was born? I wonder if the census record in 1830 was wrong about his age.

Re: Elijah Colbert

buster48 — 2012-03-23 00:17:17Z

Karen, I believe them to be the same person.According to the bible page they were married in Smith county and he died in Allen county.He married Ann Lee,There always seen to be Lee family around him in both census.These are the only things I have to go on for now, But I think the bible record mentioning Smith and Allen county says alot.

Re: Elijah Colbert

soulard2 — 2012-03-22 22:38:24Z

Hi Bob.
As I recall your Elijah stayed in Allen County. Do you know whether the Elijah in the 1840 Allen Census is yours? Do you have any idea whether the 1840 Allen Elijah and the 1830 Smith Elijah are the same man?

Re: Elijah Colbert

buster48 — 2012-03-22 22:33:08Z

I also am researching Elijah from Smith county. He was my ggg grandfather. I have attached a bible page to this message.
Bob.

Re: Elijah Colbert

soulard2 — 2012-03-22 21:43:56Z

The Elijah I am seeking lived in Smith County, TN during the 1830 census. This may have been the same man who was in the 1840 Allen Co, KY census.
Cynthia Calvert was in Smith County, TN in 1820. Her son Alexander was in Allen Co, KY at the same time. They are geographically very close.
It appears she died before 1830 and in 1827 her son Alexander purchased land in White Co, IL.
If Elijah was associated with this Calvert family it would make sense for him to have moved to IL. I have wondered if he was a son of Cynthia.

Re: Elijah Colbert

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-22 16:08:58Z

I would be interested to know more about the death date and place of this Colbert. I ask because while an Elisha Colbert was in So IL early 1800's and thought the have died about 1834, we don't know where. There is also, however, an Elijah Calvert in the area about the same time. The Calvert family lineage does have an Elijah Calvert.

Re: searching for grandfathers kin

Colbert_Richard — 2012-03-18 11:26:58Z

Mary,
This is a long shot. My 3rd GG Thomas Colbert had a daughter named Hicksey who married Henry Dorsey of Franklin Co., NC.
Before she married Henry, she had an illegitimate son named
Archibald Jackson Colbert, b. 6 Jan 1830.

Henry and Hicksey had two children but Hicksey died in 1844 and Henry married Lucy Woodward. In 1846 Henry Dorsey and his family including Archibald and the Timberlake, Drivers, Stallings, and Conduit families from Franklin Co. moved to Smith Co, TN and settled at Snow Creek near Carthage. Henry and Lucy also had several children.
You might look there.

Re: Colbert Family - Chickasaw

Colbert_Richard — 2012-03-18 10:36:03Z

Hello,
Back in the mid-1990's I wrote an article entitled "James Logan Colbert of the Chickasaws: The Man and the Myth." It appeared in the North Carolina Genealogical Society Journal in the May 1994 and Feb 1995 issues.

If you haven't found what you are looking for, you might want to look there. My research shows that James Colbert did not
arrive in America by ship. He was born in North Carolina to
Joseph Calvert of Plumtree Island on the Roanoke River. Joseph was an Indian trader as were other members of families that lived on island including Abraham Colson's brother Joseph. Abraham Colson was a registered Chickasaw trader.

Re: Maj. Gen. William D Blainville Colbert

Colbert_Richard — 2012-03-18 10:29:01Z

Hi,
We corresponded several years ago at CalvertGroup on Yahoo.
If you haven't found the answer by now, it may be time to reconsider taking a DNA test. It could save you time and eliminate a lot of questions.
Richard

Re: Colbert Family Tree

Colbert_Richard — 2012-03-18 10:18:57Z

Hello,
My 3rd GG Thomas Colbert of Franklin Co., NC, had a grandson named Archibald Jackson Colbert. In 1846 he moved with a number of other Franklin Co. families including the Dorsey,
Timberlake, Stallings, Driver, and Conduit families and settled in Smith County, TN. They families had received grants in Smith Co. because their ancestors had fought in the American Revolution. Some of the descendants of Archibald moved to Ocala, FL. in late 1800's, possibly 1880.

Re: colbert-watley

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-01 17:30:57Z

The will you mention as well as the Davis ssurname is of interest. Can you tell us more or perhaps post a transcription of the will.

Re: colbert-watley

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-01 17:29:34Z

Can you give us your maiden name and some other information to identify for I believe I can check the book on the William Colbert of 1772 that you mention to see what Catherine Chinn and William Colbert of LA discovered.

Re: Fleming Colbert and Chickasaw Nation connection?

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-03-01 17:26:04Z

Richard,

Can you email me and tell me more about those families in Columbia Co.? Sandy

Re: Fleming Colbert and Chickasaw Nation connection?

Colbert_Richard — 2012-03-01 16:34:53Z

Johnny,
I believe the other caller was right and your family was in
Noxumbee, MS. Before that they were in Montgomery, AL. Before that they were in NC for a short while. However, I believe your family can be traced to Colbert/Colvard family in Columbia Co., GA or that vicinity. This is from memory.
Richard

Re: colbert-watley

king_stephanie — 2012-03-01 02:14:36Z

I am also a descendant of a William Colbert in Louisiana. I remember as a child that there was a book called "The Descendants of William Colbert". I recently discovered that my aunt has it in Arkansas and plan to go retrieve it this weekend. This book was printed in the 1970's( my name was in it and i was so excited. I have been at a stand still on my search which will I pray will end with the book. Does anyone remember or also have this book?

Re: Colbert Family

nicewomanishere — 2012-02-28 08:44:03Z

What was your great grandfather's name?
Also your great grandmother's name?

Diane

john colbert

nancycolbert52 — 2012-02-22 15:55:44Z

looking for info on John Colbert who immigrated from Ireland around 1818

Re: Fleming Colbert and Chickasaw Nation connection?

Sandra_Frohock — 2012-01-21 22:33:08Z

Fleming Tine was born according to a Bible fragment to William Colbert, b. 1772, and wife, "Peggy" Margaret Williams, b. 1777, who died about 1817. This was soon after the move of the family from Hancock/Greene Co., GA, to AL. William married again, twice. The second marriage produced Lucinda, but mother's name is not known. The third was to a Waters, who had children already, but the family was added to. Two of William's sons stayed in GA, some in AL, near now Montgomery when he moved again to Noxubee, MS, where he died about 1848. Descedants went on to LA, some to ARK, and later TX. My family from IL matches with the DNA of the family who moved on to LA and there is a Jackson in TX also in the mix. My research indicates there is a James who preceded both William of 1772 and Elisha b. Unknown but the early 1770's possibly. This James had 400 acres in early Elbert, GA, earlier Wilkes Co. Exactly how these two relate, and indeed whether Elisha is our earlier ancestor of the So IL branch is not certain, but the DNA indicates they relate -- big time. There is a Rev. Elisha Colbert who is said to have died in 1784 and who is a brother to Bazel,who took his bounty land grant. The Elisha is So IL came there between 1802 and 1806 or 07, and he is very much alive, settling in now Hardin Co., IL, then Randolph Co., and by 1817 perhaps moving back to Al where son Hiram lived. He is thought to have died in about 1834 as did son James in IL, both in the War of 1812 in IL and perhaps victims of an epidemic at the time. Along with this earlier James in Elbert, GA, is also a William to whom Elisha sold land in Frankin Co before moving on to IL, a Suzannah, who has land of her own but is also later listed as a widow there. There is also a Tuckedmarc in the area same time as when Elisha lived there, and a John Colbert(son), died 1789, w. Martha, with a large family, a Richard, as well as varied other Colbert's, Calvert's, Calvitt's, Colvert's, in early GA, Carolina's, and VA. Who fits where is yet to be proven. If anything fits and can add to this do let us know.

In early IL the So IL Colbert's lived near the Rose family, my Mother's family also, and these Rose's also came from Elbert, GA, when they came in the early 1800's, descendants of a Henry Rose.

Margaret Colbert, Addison, New York

NowakandtheIrish — 2012-01-21 20:32:36Z

I am looking for the family of Margaret Colbert who was the neice of Honora Downes (Dawnes) and Patrick McNamara of Ithaca, New York. Patrick and Honora were married in 1863 and Patrick died in 1865. Honora died in 1908 and Margaret Colbert seemed to be the only relative and was in charge of the arrangements of burial for Honora. In 1908 Margaret is listed as living in Addison New York.

If there are any descendants, please contact me for I have information on Patrick and Honora that I would like to give you.

Re: Elijah Colbert

soulard2 — 2012-01-18 21:06:46Z

The Cynthia you refer to is the same woman I am seeking. Ella Foy Gorman postulated that she was married to 3 different Calvert cousins but no record of any marriage appears to exist. Her son Alexander is my 4th great grandfather. I belong to the Calvert site and they are as curious about her as I am. I agree regarding the MtDNA although it wouldn't help this particular situation.
I believe the spelling inconsistency is due to the pronunciation. The Calvert family apparently pronounced the name "COLBERT" and so the spelling changed among several branches as time went by.