my GF's fathers' name was Barney, don't know any of his family so maybe but... he my GF Oliver) had one brother who was killed by a horse and I'm pretty sure his name was Archibald. Think you said that your Barney and Dave were Uncles and your dad was a Joe. Pretty weird how the name Barney comes up cause that name is really different. I'm working off memory and don't have notes out. I have an Aunt Peggy who knows a tremendous amount of this family tree. I really don't have the time to sit with it and then I get really confused - doesn't help! As you can see it took forever to get back to you, you live in Ringwood now are you by the lake? Big beach/little beach that's what we used to call it or maybe by Cupsaw? The day I hear from Peg I'll let you know what I have, keeping your note in my file pile! Take care