Lorenz Cramer, spelled various ways, married Gertrude Clapper and was living in Claverack, New York in 1782. Daughter, Elizabeth's baptism was witnessed by Christopel/Christoffel Kremer in 1786. He may have been related to Lorenz and I'm trying to find the relation. Lorenz was a member of the Hessin-Hanau Regiment and deserted in 1777. Christoffel had a daughter, also named Elisabeth, in Claverack in 1768. It appears that Lorenz may have joined Christoffel in Claverack once he deserted from his regiment, then married and had several children there. I couldn't find anything further on Christoffel.