Hi John, yes I think we've got it. But when did Leroy get here and why Michigan? Maybe logging, hummm I dono. I did find a John Cronce from around mid 1800's, but I better look at my papers from the library. Im going to look for Leroy also, and see if he shows up in Michigan records. Leroy may have been young when he came to MI. I talked to my great aunt and she has a silver dollor from the fire that Norman was badly burned in. I told her I'd like to see it and take a picture of it. There's many old pictures, but I lack the people to identify everyone in them. I also need to get up to the Brown City Banner for information about Norman by looking at microfilm or whatever they have. Sorry the info is slow John, but there's so much information to look over and a lack of time. Do you think the Crans were part of the Palitine Emigrants?