Cumberland - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Cumberlands of Maine and New Hampshire

sdodge1_1 — 2012-05-15 00:28:57Z

I am seeking information regarding the family of William Cumberland, b.a. 1815 in New Brunswick, later removed to Maine. Several of his daughters married Hickey brothers from Bangor/Orono and removed to Starks, New Hampshire. Lumber seems to be the families main(no pun intended) connection.

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

cumbe8481 — 2012-04-27 03:22:55Z

Does anyone know if any of this family ended up in Baltimore Maryland? My grandfather was Conrad Herman Cumberland born and raised in Baltimore. My great grandfather was John "Henry" Cumberland who married Margaret Kellner. In the later part of his life he was a detective for the railway. That is as far has I have made it into the Cumberland side of my family. Any help would be great.

Thomas F. O'Brien Vineland, NJ

gsktb06 — 2012-04-21 23:10:23Z

My ggrandfather, Thomas Francis O'Brien is buried in either Vineland or Millville. I have a picture of his tombstone. However, there is no date of death on it as it was a military tombstone. I thougth that he died in 1921 because I have seen an obituary with that date. However, I found him in the 1930 Census living by himself. I know that his wife, Mary Elizabeth died in 1928 because I have a photo of her tombstone also. I have not been able to find anything on line to indicate his death.

He lived most of this life in Philadelphia, but his family lived in Vineland and Millville. He had a son Frank (Francis ??), daughters Regina, Lilly (Elizabeth & possibly even Sarah or Sadie. My grandmother was Elizabeth. She married John Bernard Monaghan and had several children: James, Gertrude, Mary, Ruth and Winifred.

Any assistance would be very beneficial to me as I work on this side of my family.

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2012-04-19 11:12:23Z

WILLIAM CUMBERLAND'S ELDEST SON JOHN HAD A SON NAMED WILLIAM WHO MARRIED A SANDIFORD

Re: Cumberlands - England

oceanmoonlite — 2012-04-18 22:56:09Z

William (b1755) lived in DC and had 2 sons, John and Charles who were ship builders. William was married to Elizabeth Sandiford, correct?

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2012-04-16 11:33:09Z

HEllo I believe you are confusing Elizabeth Sandiford with the wife of John Cumberland who is William Cumberlands son. Mike

Re: Cumberlands - washington dc

oceanmoonlite — 2012-04-15 22:03:32Z

Thanks so much. Please send me a copy of his death cert and anything else you can send. My email is oceanmoonlite@mtb.com.
Sandy

Harold Edward CUMBERLAND

nm_wood — 2011-12-25 17:09:22Z

According to a NM marriage record in 1944, Harold Edward CUMBERLAND, was born in Denver, Colorado, and in 1944 resided in Los Angeles, CA.

Looking for Birth, (other) Marriages and death records for
Harold Edward CUMBERLAND born abt. 1913.

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-12-03 19:55:10Z

I have a census for 1930 on H Charles Cumberland (b 1866) and Ethel P Talley, born 1879 in VA. Her mother was Mary Shirley. their children were robert (1901), Barbara, Otter, Loranzo, and Thomas. There was also a thomas Conavor who lived with them in 1910. Is that your relative? I'll see if I can find more for you. Now I have to find out how they are related to me. :)
I'll keep looking. Have a great day.
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-12-03 19:29:33Z

Does Mary Ann Weasner ring a bell who was married to John (b.1804)?They had a son named Charles T born 1838. charles was married to Ann Rebecca Hamilton b 1840. They had a child named J Riley Cumberland. does that ring a bell with anyone? My tree branches off from John's brother, charles, born in 1805. John was born 1804. Their father was William E Cumberland from England. Willoughby on the Wolds. I have his baptism/married docs. I have traced this back to the 1600's. I have the parents, children, dates when born, died, etc.
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-12-03 18:06:26Z

Who was your grandmother? My great-grandfather was William A Cumberland who lived in DC and moved to Dumfries, VA. His grandfather Charles, born 1805, died 1871. Areyou familiar with them?
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-12-03 13:32:47Z

My email address is: (don't laugh) oceanmoonlite@yahoo.com. I wanted sandybeach (my name "sandy" and I love the beach) but someone had that so my little girl at the time (now she's 25) picked out this for me because I love the way the moon shines on the ocean at night. Okay, I know it's sort of cheesy but it is what it is. :) I'm so excited about this and finding others who are related. I just signed up again for Ancestry so I can disect what I have a bit further. Someone also mentioned their is a relative who lives in Laplata (10 min from my house) so I'll have to find them too. The Cumberlands I knew and my cousins now are wonderful people. I could tell you such terrific stories. My line came from Charles who was born in 1804. His family moved eventually to Dumfries, VA. I have a cousin, (2nd cousins)...JoAnn who lives there still. Tina lives in Fredericksburg, Harvey lives in Lake Anna, and cousin Flick :) (real name is William Cumberland, believe it or not) lives in Virginia (I can't remember the name of the town). All of my 1st cousins live near me here with my Aunt Betty. We also have some cousins in NC. I'll dig into the ancestors more this weekend. I was trying to get some Christmas shopping done too. I hate shopping! :( Also, I'm going to my granddaughter's birthday party tomorrow way up near Thurmont, MD. (20 min from Gettsburg). Take care and have a great weekend! Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-12-02 01:32:10Z

Hello Sandy, This is my email address: sutonchef@gmail.com

I will need your email address to send you the scan of my copy of the Cumberland geneology. A lady named Mary is also asking for a copy which I am preparing to send tonight. Thank you. Paul

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-12-02 00:19:32Z

HI Paul,
Yes I would like a copy. I'm going to work on this over the weekend because I've been putting in some long hrs at work. I know there were alot of Cumberlands and branches off from it so that's why it's a bit confusing. Once I get your information I'm going to compare it to what I have. Thank you so much!
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-12-01 03:55:34Z

Hello Mary, I was born in Washington DC 1948 and lived in Georgetown Washington DC.

I have the Geneology of the Cumberlands from 1795-about 1865 or later. Emily Independence (Cumberland)Clingan wrote it in the 1840s according to my calculations of dates in the geneology. The 1850 census for Washington DC would have a great deal Cumberland famil names in it. They were a prolific family. If you would like a copy of this geneology I can attach it to an email. It is only about 4 pages long. My email is sutonchef@gmail.com Paul

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

MWard8097 — 2011-12-01 00:28:43Z

Hi Paul - My husband (Dennis Ward) is the Cumberland cousin - He was born in 1949, also grew up in Georgetown on 37th Place, went to Holy Trinity and moved to Wheaton, MD in about 1962. When we were first married I became interested in genealogy and thought that I could start with the Cumberland family since they were from DC and I had easy access to DC records since we lived in Silver Spring, MD. I didn't know that Charles Hugh had moved to VA at that time and that was where Dennis' grandfather (Robert Russell) was born.I did a lot of research in the early years and am now trying to define the direct line on Ancestry.com with checking my data and adding source info. My direct email address is mkbward@verizon.net if you need to get hold of me with any photos, etc. Thanks, Mary

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-11-30 04:18:51Z

Hello Cousin Sandy, Since we have established a mutual connection in our family line with William Edwin Cumberland I can call you Cousin lol. ok? My email address is sutonchef@gmail.com.

I only have info of the early Cumberlands starting 1795 as I have already shared. I never knew any of the present day Cumberlands and did not have contact with them as a child. I think it was my Grandmother, now deceased who kept up with them as she grew up in the FOGGY BOTTOM AREa OF WASHINGTON DC. I grew up in Georgetown on 30th street near the Oak Hill Cemetary I mentioned in an earlier message. I was born in the late 1940s. Paul

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-11-30 04:18:28Z

Hello Cousin Sandy, Since we have established a mutual connection in our family line with William Edwin Cumberland I can call you Cousin lol. ok? My email address is sutonchef@gmail.com.

I only have info of the early Cumberlands starting 1795 as I have already shared. I never knew any of the present day Cumberlands and did not have contact with them as a child. I think it was my Grandmother, now deceased who kept up with them as she grew up in the FOGGY BOTTOM ARE OF WASHINGTON DC. I grew up in Georgetown on 30th street near the Oak Hill Cemetary I mentioned in an earlier message. I was born in the late 1940s. Paul

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

MWard8097 — 2011-11-30 02:23:14Z

Charles Hugh Cumberland (b: 1861/1862 in DC; d: 1/22/1936 in VA). His wife was Ethel M. Talley (b: 6/28/1879 in VA; d: 1/15/1958 in VA). That's about all that I know about her except Ethel's mother was Grand Mammy Shirley - that's what my mom-in-law said that they called their grandmother. I think that Shirley was her last name - I came across a Mary Florence Talley married to a Dan Shirley??? Both Charles & Ethel are buried at Andrews/Arnon Chapel Cemetery in Fairfax, VA. Their son Robert Russell Cumberland (b:10/17/1900 in VA; d: 2/03/1972 in DC). He was a DC Fireman and married Mary Emma Cumberland (b: 7/06/1901 in DC; d:2/1990in MD). Her parents were Roger Edwin Cumberland (b:1/29/1875 in DC; d: 12/1957 in VA) and his wife was Mary Elizabeth Kelly (b: 6/1877 in Pittsburgh, PA; d: 1948 in MD).The story goes that Robert Russell at age 18 came to DC to become a fireman. He was living with his Uncle John & Aunt Mary Virginia Cumberland in the 1920 DC census. Uncle John & Aunt "Ginny" were also Mary Emma Cumberland's cousin/aunt & uncle????. I think that they are 2nd half cousins,but it's very confusing.I do have some photos of some of these people -if you would like any please send your email address to me. Mine is mkbward@verizon.net. Thanks for the quick response and help. Mary Ward

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-30 00:49:55Z

My grandmother, Mae Cumberland Morgan, did talk about a Bible that a relative kept. I'll have to call my cousins in VA to see what they may have and I'll see what I can find for you.
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-30 00:30:52Z

Hello, do you have dates on Charles, Ethel, and Robert? I have to dig in deeper and go through all of my information.I have a will that was written by Aunt Kate (Katherine Cumberland) who was a midwife. I will send you what I have later this week if you can send me your email. I have alot of information on our family in VA (Dumfries, VA).
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

MWard8097 — 2011-11-29 03:55:30Z

I visited the Arnon Chapel Cemetery many years ago. My husband's Grandparents were Mary Emma Cumberland (from DC) and Robert Russell Cumberland (from VA). Robert grew up near that Cemetery. Robert's parent's were Charles Hugh Cumberland (from DC)and Ethel Talley (from VA)and they are buried there along with at least 2 of their children (Ward Leigh & Elizabeth and her daughter Nancy Eager).Charles Hugh's parents were Thomas R. Cumberland (from DC)and Martha Rollings (from DC). I don't have much info on Ethel Talley's life/parents/etc.Robert & Mary Emma were 2nd half cousins. They shared a gr-grandfather(John Cumberland) but different gr-grandmothers. I do have some photos of Roger E. & Mary Kelly Cumberland, Robert Russell & Mary Emma Cumberland, Ethel Talley & Charles Hugh Cumberland and their children. Let me know if I can help anyone. Or does anyone have any photos of the older generation?

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2011-11-29 03:50:27Z

hello sandy, thank you and I will send you more infomation I have. paul

Re: Cumberlands - England

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-29 03:10:28Z

William Cumberland b 1755 was born and baptized in Willoughby on the Wolds in Nottingham. I will send you the church through email tomorrow. I'll also send you more information this week.
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-11-29 02:43:09Z

yes i have no doubt we are speaking of the same William Cumberland and sons John and Charles of early Washington DC

Ann was the oldest female child and there was a fourth male child in William Cumberlands family. Paul

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-11-29 02:36:27Z

Hello Sandy, Thanks for the info. There is a cemetary (Arnon Chapel Cemetary on Walker rd) in Great Falls Va where a Cumberland grave is.

My mothers side of the family is not related to Cumberlands but I thought it a real coincidence that Cumberlands were in the same Cemetary as my Mothers family and buried very close to each other.

My Dads side of the family is where our Cumberland connection starts via my Grandmother Power. As a matter of fact my Grandmother was born at home in 1879 in Washington DC and her midwife was an Aunt from the Cumberland family.

The last recorded document I have of Cumberlands is the name of a Cumberland in the Funeral visitors book of my eldest brother who died at age 4 from spinal meningitis in 1942

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-11-29 02:24:47Z

I live in Springfield VA with my wife and i think i mentioned that I was born in Washington DC seventh generation Washingtonian paul

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-11-29 02:20:58Z

hello sandy, you have really filled in some info we have never known and my family appreciates it very much.

i do not have an ancestry.com account and if you want any info that I can send you via email attachment I will be most happy to do that.

I wondered if you knew anything about the Cumberland family Bible that Emily Independence cumberland Clingan mentions in her geneology of the William Cumberland family. She drew up the geneology back in the 1840s or 50s over one hundred years ago.

i have 4-5 generations of Cumberland ancestry and i will send it to you via email and attachment if you like Paul

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2011-11-28 13:01:57Z

OK I CAN SEE YOU ARE CONFUSING NAMES. I HAVE THE GENEOLOGY OF THE WILLIAM CUMBERLAND FAMILY AND IT IS ABOUT FOUR GENERATIONS LONG.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE CUMBERLAND GENEOLOGY IS THAT THE BOYS WERE NAMED AFTER FATHERS AND GRANDFATHERS AND WILLIAM CUMBERLAND AND JOHN CUMBERLAND WERE USED FOR BOY NAMES SEVERAL TIMES IN LATER GENERATIONS

I CAN SCAN AND SEND YOU A COPY OF THE GENEOLOGY IF YOU LIKE. PAUL

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2011-11-28 12:57:54Z

YES ANNE ORSALL WAS HIS WIFE WHO WAS MARRIED TO A DUTCHMAN WHO DIED HIS NAME WAS JIRDENSTAN. SHE CAME TO AMERICA ON THE SHIP THAT WILLIAM CUMBERLAND CAME OVER ON THEY MET ON THE SHIP ON THE WAY OVER. SHE ALREADY HAD TWO SMALL CHILDREN BY HER PREVIOUS HUSBAND JIRDENSTAN. PAUL

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2011-11-28 12:54:41Z

HELLO SANDY, CAN YOU SCAN AND SEND THE PHOTO OF THE CHURCH BY EMAIL TO ME AND DO YOU KNOW THE TOWN OR CITY IN ENGLAND WHERE WILLIAM CUMBERLAND WAS BORN?

THANK YOU FOR THE INFO ON HIS BIRTH YEAR AND HIS MOTHER AND FATHERS NAMES WE NEVER HAD THAT INFO PAUL

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2011-11-28 12:48:20Z

HELLO SANDY, DO YOU HAVE INFO ON HOW WILLIAM CUMBERLAND DIED AND WHERE HE WAS BURIED. PAUL

Re: Cumberlands - washington dc

sutonchef — 2011-11-28 12:44:47Z

Hello Sandy, Yes Charles was born in 1806.

I may have made an error in that date in previous notes to the geneology web board.

YES JOHN CUMBERLAND DIED IN 1876 AND I HAVE A COPY OF HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE FROM THE WASHINGTON DC CITY PUBLIC DOCUMENTS. I CAN SEND YOU A SCANNED COPY IF YOU LIKE. JOHN WAS MY 7TH GENERATION GREAT GRANDFATHER ON MY GRANDMOTHERS SIDE OF THE FAMILY.

There is a Cumberland grave marker in a cemetary (OAK HILL CEMETARY) 30TH AND R ST in Georgetown Washington DC. BOTH JOHN AND CHARLES CUMBERLAND ARE ON THE TWO STONES IN THE CEMETARY. CHARLES DIED IN CA 1865. PAUL

Re: Cumberland-DC VA

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 22:47:30Z

The boatyards were owned by John and Charles (brothers) Cumberland. Charles was my 4 great-grandfather. His relatives lived in Dumfries, VA. (Cherry Hill, VA. If you talk to anyone there they all know our family and could tell you stories. We had and do have a wonderful family. The boatyard was where the Kennedy Center is now. Let me know how I can help you.
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 15:58:56Z

Hello, I have alot of info on the Cumberland in DC and VA. My 4th great-grandfather was Wm E Cumberland b. 1755 from England. They moved to northern VA. Wm's children were John and Charles but he had many more that I have. Look at mmy tree "Evans, Morgan, Cumberland and see if you recognize anyone. Let me know.
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 15:39:29Z

Hello, my family is from Charles' line. He was my grandmother's great-grandfather. William E Cumberland was my 4th great-grandfather from England and was born in 1755 in Willoughby on the Wolds in England. His father was John and his mother was Sarah Hubbard. I have traced our family to the 1600's. Most of our family lived in DC then moved to Dumfries, VA (Cherry Hill, VA). Alot of passed but we have cousins who live in the area (Woodbridge, Fredricksburg). We had and do have a lovely family! I will look for this book and let you know if I can find this. Let me know if you have any other info. Take care, Sandy

Re: Cumberlands - England

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 15:33:21Z

Hello, I'm not quite sure if we are related but I have followed our family tree to England in 1755. My 4th great-grandfather was William E Cumberland (b. 1755)from Willoughby on the Wolds. His father was John and his mother Sarah Hubbard of the same area. I have traced back pretty far through my english heritage but have not run into a David Cumberland. I live in Maryland (US).
Do you know anything on what I have stated?
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 15:28:45Z

Was John born in 1804? If his father was William Cumberland b. 1755 from England, then we are related.
Sandy

Re: Cumberlands - England

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 15:26:16Z

What year was your grandfather born? My great grandfather was William A Cumberland and his brother was George Cumberland who was born in 1856 in DC. Their father was William T Cumberland. Grandparents were Charles and Elizabeth (Roland-maiden name).
Charles's father was William E Cumberland b. 1755 in England. William was my 4th great-grandfather. Are we related?

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 15:16:40Z

I am related to Charles, John's brother. Charles is my 4th great grandfather. I have alot of info on this.
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 15:10:44Z

Hello, I have info on William Cumberland b. 1755 in England. My tree is under "Evans, Morgan, Cumberland."
William was my grandmother's great-great grandfather.
Sandy

Re: Cumberlands - England

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 12:20:36Z

Paul, on my message to you I put Wm E Cumberland was born in 1795, that is incorrect (it's early and I haven't had my latte yet :). He was born in 1755 in England. I have his father as John and mother as Sarah Hubbard. He was baptised in 1756. I have picture of the church as well. I do go back pretty far so see if you can view it on Ancestry. Have a good day.
Sandy

Re: Cumberlands - England

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 12:09:03Z

I was confused a bit when it came to Wm E Cumberland's (1795) wives. I did see Ann Orsall (Jirdinston) and Elizabeth Sandiford. What do you have?
Sandy

Re: Cumberlands - England

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 12:06:24Z

yes, you are correct. My great grandfather, William A Cumberland, was a ship builder and lived in Cherry Hill, VA. (Dumfries) I have a pictre of him. They also were commerical fisherman. William Edwin Cumberland (b.1795) died in 1820 in DC.
Sandy

Re: Cumberlands - washington dc

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 12:02:08Z

Did John die in 1876? This is so interesting and exciting! I can't wait to tell my Aunt. Charles was born in 1805 and was my Grandfather, Luther's, grandfather. Can you view my family tree on Ancestry? It's under Evans,Morgan,Cumberland Tree.
Sandy

Re: Cumberland and Brosnahan Families of DC

sutonchef — 2011-11-27 04:49:47Z

i am a desendant of the william cumberland family of washington dc and have info on my grandmothers family geneology of williams children and later generations including census info

william edwin cumberland came to washington dc about 1795 and worked as house builder when the government moved from philadelphia in 1800. his eldest son John became a boat builder by trade on the Potomac river just south of the KENNEDY CENTER AT THE EAST END OF ROOSEVELT BRIDGE WASHINGTON DC. I HAVE A COPY OF EMILY INDEPENDANCE CUMBERLANDS GENEOLOGY INFO ALSO.

I AM NOT A CUMBERLAND BUT I AM A 7TH GENERATION WASHINGTONIAN WITH CUMBERLAND FAMILY RELATIONS BY MARRIAGE PAUL

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2011-11-27 04:34:53Z

i have some geneology info for william cumberland the original cumberland in washington dc on the 1800 census paul

Re: Cumberlands - England

sutonchef — 2011-11-27 04:32:46Z

there are repeat names from one generation to the next. The original cumberland was william who came to washington dc about 1795 he is listed on the 1800 census in washington dc. he was a builder of homes by trade and died sometime between 1810-1820 as he is not on the 1810 or 1820 census of washington paul

Re: Cumberlands - washington dc

sutonchef — 2011-11-27 04:28:51Z

charles was born about 1809 and his brother john was born in 1804 washington dc. John is my 7 generation great grandfather. paul

Re: Cumberlands - England

oceanmoonlite — 2011-11-27 00:01:50Z

Hello, Kate is Catherine Elizabeth Cumberland (Aunt Kate. She was my great-grandfather's sister, William A. Cumberland. Frances was his sister born in 1863. Aunt Kate never married. I have a copy of a will that she made before she died that lists alof of our family on it. We have some relatives living in virginia still but alot have died. We had a wonderful family! Let me know what you'd like to know. Take care, Sandy