Dearmond - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Alfred from Rush Co, IN

sftrail — 2009-10-04 23:46:37Z

Thank you so much. Fixed my mistake linking Rush Co. Alfred isn't listed there but other DeArmonds are so I added a site search link. Thanks again.
Nancy

Re: Alfred from Rush Co, IN

TERESAWAGNER202 — 2009-10-04 21:18:43Z

Nancy,

I could not get the links to work for Alfred Dearmond of Rush county Indiana. I clicked on RUSH county, IN and that took me to PARENT DIRECTORY for /~inrush. That takes you to a generic RootsWeb page.

Thanks, Teresa Dearmond Wagner

Re: Alfred from Rush Co, IN

sftrail — 2009-10-01 17:07:37Z

I have just uploaded the DeArmond family page to
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohbutler/gen/dearmond/inde...

It has links to Alfred from Rush Co IN

Nancy

Re: Alfred from Rush Co, IN

sftrail — 2009-09-12 01:19:56Z

The url for your DeArmond family history that you put on Ancestry.com doesn't work for us who don't have Ancestry accounts. It you can post it somewhere accessible to others would you repost here? Thanks so much.

Re: Alfred from Rush Co, IN

TERESAWAGNER202 — 2009-09-09 22:09:40Z

I have just posted my Dearmond webpage.

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/11055736/person/-535178392

email me directly at WagnerAT@charter.net
Thanks
Teresa DeArmond Wagner

Re: Alfred from Rush Co, IN

scottbrockelman — 2009-09-07 23:34:26Z

I have info on Alfred, his siblings and parents. Please email me.

scottbrockelman@msn.com

Scott

Re: Alfred from Rush Co, IN

LeannaLeek — 2009-09-07 22:39:49Z

I am also a great grandaughter of Riley Dearmond. Have you learned any more about Alfred? I would like to compare notes with you.

Re: DeArmond's

grannypopo1 — 2009-05-31 21:36:35Z

James Arthur's sister Nancy married J.J. Wilson and moved to Roger Mills Co. OK. This is my husband's line if you are interested in it. Contact wilson_m_73638@yahoo.com

Re: WilliamLeah Adaline Carson

raymond1566 — 2009-03-01 22:57:31Z

This is what I have but also have a book on the Dearmond Family Book which is were I found the information but it looks like I didn't update my. I am aslo descendent of Leah she was my GGGRt grandmother through Winfield Scotts daughter Gertrude who was my grt grandmother!

Regards,

Raymond Davis

Re: WilliamLeah Adaline Carson

DianeSnyder72 — 2009-02-19 21:50:58Z

So sorry but the book did not list Leah's family only that she was related to Kit Carson. Should I run across anything else, will get in touch. Good luck
Diane

Re: WilliamLeah Adaline Carson

nickyjryan — 2009-02-19 17:36:33Z

Dear Dianne,
Thanks for the prompt reply! I'm new at this & appreciate any help I can get. I need help determining how Robert Carson is related to Charles Houston (Kit) Carson [b 1809]. Going backward, this is what I have:
Leah Adaline Carson [b 1829] m William DeArmond [1826]; Leah's parents were>
Wm Carson [b 1799] m Cynthia Broadwell [b 1807]; Wm Carson's parents were>
Leah Reading [b 1777] m Robt Carson [b 1775??]. Is Robt Carson a cousin or an uncle of Kit Carson?
Thanks!

Re: WilliamLeah Adaline Carson

DianeSnyder72 — 2009-02-19 14:40:05Z

According to the book by Roscoe DeArmond, Leah A. Carson b. 7/30/1829 was "related to" Kit Carson.
Diane SNyder

Re: Dearmond/Carson

nickyjryan — 2009-02-19 06:43:22Z

Leah Adaline Carson is my GGG Great Grandmother. My family tree is:
Leah Adaline's son is:
Jerome Carson DeArmond. His son is:
Jerome Carson. His son is:
Wayland Marion, He daughter is
Geraldine Leila ... is my grandmother.
email me at nickyjryan@yahoo.com

Re: WilliamLeah Adaline Carson

nickyjryan — 2009-02-19 06:33:13Z

I believe that I am a direct descendant of Leah Adaline Carson & William DeArmond. Please contact me at nickyjryan@yahoo.com. I'm trying to figure out the DeArmond's relationship to Kit Carson (Charles Houston Carson).
Thanks

Re: No French origin for DeArmond

LEarnheart9903 — 2009-02-11 15:05:24Z

That makes sense, I really wondered about "Kate". Thanks for your help.

Re: No French origin for DeArmond

deyartim — 2009-02-10 15:06:27Z

For centuries, countless numbers of men from Ireland and Scotland have hired out as mercenaries throughout Europe. They left their DNA imprint and surnames among many European descendants, as can be readily seen on the Y chromosome database websites and historical records. When the French are asked about DeArmond as a French name, they typically have puzzled looks. Until someone can show record of indigenous origin in France of the spelling, exclusive of d'Armand, the preponderance of evidence supports native Irish and Scottish origins of the name. The given names of your ancestors do not lend to suggestion of French cultural background in an area long disputed between France and Germany.

Re: No French origin for DeArmond

deyartim — 2009-02-10 04:36:47Z

That is very interesting to read. Have you found any records in France or Germany to support that spelling? If you have been following posts about DeArmond ancestors on various forums, you will have noted that the British Isles are mentioned almost exclusively as the previous country prior to immigration and then, primarily Ireland dating from the 1700's. So if you can support this with historical European documentation, your claim falls outside anything mentioned in the more frequently mentioned published genealogies. Y chromosome haplotype test results of a male in your family with the DeArmond surname and matching that part of Europe would be strong supporting evidence of your point of view.

Re: No French origin for DeArmond

LEarnheart9903 — 2009-02-09 15:43:52Z

My ancestor, Arthur Rudolph DeArmond was born in 1861 in Alsace-Lorraine, France, came to America as a teenager to avoid military service. On the 1925 Iowa census, he gave his parents' names as Martin DeArmond and Kate Gottafroy (Godefroy?). Supposedly, his father died when Arthur was young and his mother remarried, so I can't get back any farther than that. I had assumed that his parents were French. Any ideas?

Re: Dearmonds

2006-11-26 02:31:11Z

Nancy, can you email me directly?

Re: Dearmonds

2006-11-26 00:38:24Z

Hi Sue - I can share the descendants of Elias through Frances (Frankie) Jane b. 11 NOV 1832. She married Francis Marion Adams b. 1838. Their children are: Margaret J., Almeda, Cora, Effie, Edward and Bruce. I would appreciate knowing Elias' ancestors and siblings.
Thanks,
Nancy

Re: Dearmonds

2006-11-23 23:23:48Z

I have some information on Eli DeArmond born 1803 and died 1877 in MO. Milton T. was a brother b: 3 Aug. 1854. I have a list of children. I also have a list of Eli siblings and his father and mother with a maiden name. I will share.

Re: DeArmond's

TERESAWAGNER202 — 2009-02-01 20:11:12Z

Do you have more information on Arthur James Dearmond? Birthdate, death date, place of birth or death? Any more information on John Dearmond?

I have lots of information on the Indiana and Ohio Dearmonds.

Teresa DeArmond Wagner

Re: Are There Any DeArmond's around Kansas?

bec550806 — 2008-02-17 23:41:25Z

I live in Montgomery County Kansas. My great grandparents were Charles and Nora (Carrick) DeArmond. They came here from around the Siloam Springs Arkansas area. My great great grandparents are buried in Siloam Springs as is Aunt Anna. She was married at one time (no children) and lived in Missouri. Mattie DeArmond Ward was my grandmother. I would love to hear from anyone who has any information that might help me in my research. Thanks

Re: DeArmond's

ehowe|MA813952 — 2009-02-01 21:21:21Z

Teresa,
Do you have any information on John Sherman DeArmond (b. ca. 1834 in Westport, Decatur Co., IN) or his son, William Sherman DeArmond (b. ca. 1867 in Westport, Decatur Co., IN)?

John Sherman is my GGG Grandfather, but I don't know much about his descendants or ancestors.

Thanks,
Ed Howe

Re: DeArmond's

scottbrockelman — 2009-02-02 00:03:45Z

Your John Dearmond m. Lettie L. Johnson April 13, 1869 in Fulton county, Illinois.

They first appear on the 1870 census shown here

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbi...

you will see John's brother Joseph below them.

On the 1850 he can be found with his siblings and mother again in Fulton county, IL

http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbi...

After piecing this together. here is an ancestor tree that ties him into it, it may or may not be 100% correct.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...

This should get you a good start on filling in the gaps and confirming data.

Scott

Re: DeArmond's

scottbrockelman — 2009-02-02 00:02:58Z

Re: DeArmond's

scottbrockelman — 2009-02-02 03:46:50Z

John,

If you have access to the US census, look at the 1850 and 1870 and 1880 Fulton county, Illinois census. You will find your John DeArmond b. 1837-1838. In 1850 he is living with his mother Elizabeth (Campbell). His father died a couple of years prior in 1848. This is the same family as the Rootsweb gedcom.

In 1870 he and Lettie are married.

In 1880 they are still in Fulton county, IL.

Whether the ancestry back to Ireland or France is correct I cannot vouch.

Did your grandfather John DeArmond have a brother Frank M. ?

If so that is Frank Marcelles DeArmond b. 1879 to John and Lettie. Lettie had 12 children 7 surviving in 1910.

Again I can't speak for the gedcom. But I am certain that your Arthur James was the son this John DeArmond b. 1804 in Northumberland, PA and Lettie Johnson and that John was the probably the son of Micheal as shown in the Gedcom.

These are not my DeArmond line, just trying to help

Scott

Re: Are There Any DeArmond's around Kansas?

sftrail — 2008-03-03 22:19:20Z

Nothing on Arthur James DeArmond in the Roscoe d'Armand book that I can find. Do you know his birth date or death date?

Re: Are There Any DeArmond's around Kansas?

JohnDeArmond — 2008-03-02 19:19:23Z

Hello,
My name is John Edwin DeArmond, I live in Wichita, Ks. I was named after my father who was born in Byron, Ok. and is one of five children born to Arthur James DeArmond and Mary Catherine (Bullard) DeArmond. Their children in order of birth were Delmar Arthur DeArmond, Millie Mary DeArmond, Jessie Arlene De Armond, Harry Lee DeArmond and John Edwin DeArmond.
They lived in Byron, Ok., Amorita, Ok., and Cherokee, Ok.
I've not been searching for very long, and have found nothing on the internet concerning Arthur James DeArmond at all.
Family stories tell of the family comeing down from Illinois or Indiana but I have no names or dates or exact locations. I'm pretty much at a loss as to how Scot's-Irish Cherokee Indians came to have a French surname.

Re: Are There Any DeArmond's around Kansas?

JohnDeArmond — 2008-03-02 19:16:02Z

Re: Are There Any DeArmond's around Kansas?

JohnDeArmond — 2008-04-19 02:51:17Z

There are a few De Armond's in and around Ks., some of them have moved to Texas and California. Here is a link to my site, click on the "Enter as a guest" at the entry page.
Click here: Entry page - De Armond Web Site - MyHeritage

Re: Dearmond DNA Test Site

JohnDeArmond — 2008-04-19 02:47:57Z

I can't seem to get the site with the DNA info to open. You may visit my site as a guest if you like, Click here: Entry page - De Armond Web Site - MyHeritage

Arthur James DeArmond of Cherokee, Ok.

JohnDeArmond — 2008-03-04 02:16:19Z

Arthur James DeArmond had three sisters that I know of, could have been more siblings. However the ones I know of were Millie DeArmond Currah, Sadie DeArmond Seaburn both of Cherokee, Ok. and Mamie DeArmond Barker of Carmen, Ok. Dates of birth and or death unknown.

Re: Are There Any DeArmond's around Kansas?

JohnDeArmond — 2008-03-04 01:39:30Z

Arthur James De Armond, DOB: 28 Feb. 1882, DOD: 3 April 1962, Resided at Cherokee, Ok. and intered at the cemetary there.

Re: DeArmond's

JohnDeArmond — 2009-02-02 02:38:12Z

Thanks for the links, only the last one worked for me. But it was enough that I'm fairly certain its the wrong line of DeArmonds. Looking thru all of the line listed, there is no mention of my grandfather or his sisters, not to mention that according to my grandfather the family is Highland Scott's and no French blood. The family line listed in those links are only one generation Ireland then France.

Re: DeArmond's

JohnDeArmond — 2009-02-01 22:35:38Z

My Grandfather Arthur James DeArmond was born 28 Feb. 1882 place ukn, died 3 Apr. 1962, his father John DeArmond moved the family from possibly Ill. or Indiana. No further info on him. Arthur James DeArmond was married to Mary Catherine Bullard, born 2 July 1896, died 30 Sept. 1992. All three are buried in Cherokee, OK. I have all this info on my ancestry chart with this site, or you can contact me at enigma0722@aol.com also.

Re: DeArmond's

JohnDeArmond — 2009-02-02 04:11:13Z

Once again, thanks, however I know nothing of Greatgrandfather John DeArmond. I need to go back to Cherokee, OK and check for dates on the headstone. I do remember that there is no middle initial or name. I don't know of any siblings, I'm sure there most likely were, and don't know anything other than he brought his kids to the Kansas Oklahoma territories and homesteded the Cherokee strip.

DNA from France?

deyartim — 2009-02-04 16:18:39Z

If DeArmond originates from the d'Armands of Southeast France, then the Y chromosome markers of male descendants would trace to the Franks or Burgundian Germanic nobility who ruled the fiefdoms of France after the fall of Rome. Armand is the French translation of the German name of Herman. If you are a male with DeArmond as your surname, a simple 12 marker Y DNA comparison test will determine your haplogroup origin. If your markers match to Northwest Ireland and Southwest Scotland, then it is time to reconsider the romantic concept of your noble French ancestry.

Re: DeArmond's of Scotland

deyartim — 2009-01-30 04:49:10Z

DNA results show a close relationship between Western Scotland and Northern Ireland dating back to the Dark Ages when Irish tribes invaded the Western Isles. DeArmond was a surname common among the Presbyterian Scotch-Irish immigrants to the New World in the 1700's, but fell out of use in Ireland and Scotland in favor of McDermott. It is considered to have derived from Duibhdhiormaigh (Doove-year-mee) of Donegal, but I note recorded suggestion that it was also derived from the given name Diarmada (Diermond) in both Ireland and Scotland. The tradition of Huguenot French origin became popular in America because of the vaguely French looking spelling and sound of the name. In order to accentuate the "r" sound, the preceding vowel was often capitalized, fueling the myth of French origin. Early Huguenot lists of names in Ireland are absent of anything resembling DeArmond or d'Armand.

No French origin for DeArmond

deyartim — 2009-01-25 16:20:09Z

"DeArmond families of America" is often quoted as proof of noble French pedigree. I also long accepted the story as fact. Unfortunately, the author did not have internet access and DNA analysis. The overwhelming majority of countless variants of the name have native Northern Irish origins. The name is no longer used in Ireland in favor of McDermott. British scholars have traced the name back a thousand years in Irish records through various spellings. There is hardly any record of note of anyone in Ireland ever named d'Armand, nor can DeArmond be found originating historically in France. I welcome any informed debate on this subject.

High Kings of Ireland

deyartim — 2008-07-10 13:40:41Z

Recent dna testing is revealing that some Dearmond surname variant males carry the Y chromosome marker SNP M222. This marker originated in County Donegal more than 3000 years ago and is notable today in Northern Ireland and Southwest Scotland. A great deal of interest and research is underway with this haplogroup, which is now referred to as R1b1b2e (formerly R1b1c7). The legendary "Niall of the nine hostages" and his descendents are included in this haplogroup. We are not descended from French nobility as some believe, but we can claim close family ties to the once High Kings of Ireland. Our name was likely once pronounced Duibhiorma, which evolved to Diarmaid-Diermond-Diarmi-Dermott-Deyermond-Dearmont-DeArmond-etc.

Re: Dearmond DNA Test Site

deyartim — 2008-04-23 04:25:35Z

I have tested for 37 Y chromosome STR markers and I am awaiting results from my SNP haplogroup test. I have already joined the project as a member. My curiosity concerning the name, is why were there so many immigrants to North America using so many variations. If the name has Huguenot or Palantine origins, the ca.1700 European refugee lists for Ireland do not account for such, despite numerous books claiming otherwise. If anyone is certain of their Huguenot or European surname heritage, then post your Y DNA results. Northwest Irish Y DNA is quite distinctive and can not be confused with European hyplotypes.

Re: DeArmond's

enigma0722 — 2009-01-22 01:42:05Z

My grandfathers name was Arthur James DeArmond, his fathers name was John DeArmond. They are said to have come south from Illinois or Indiana area shortly before the Cherokee Strip Land Rush. Thats as far as I've managed to get. The family claims to be of Scottish decent, moved to Ireland and then on to the New World, but port of entry is not known.

DeArmond's of Scotland

enigma0722 — 2009-01-30 01:32:24Z

I'm most happy to hear this about no French connection. What few family stories I've heard, my people came to the New World Scotland via Ireland. Of the few other DeArmonds I've run across over the years, all but my family claim to be of the snootyiest of French lines. My father and his father were most adament that there was NO Frenchmen in our family history.

Re: DeArmond's

enigma0722 — 2009-02-04 01:10:46Z

My Grandfather Arthur James DeArmond was born 28 Feb. 1882 place unknown, died 3 Apr. 1962,buried at Cherokee, OK. his father John DeArmond moved the family from possibly Ill. or Indiana. No further info on him other than John is also buried in Cherokee, OK. Arthur James DeArmond was married to Mary Catherine Bullard, born 2 July 1896, died 30 Sept. 1992. All three are buried in Cherokee, OK. I have all this info on my ancestry chart with this site, or you can contact me at enigma0722@aol.com also.

Re: DeArmonds of Tennessee

crystalprn — 2009-02-03 19:08:16Z

Hi Shirley,
Is there a Margaret DeArmond anywhere in your Tennessee line? I'm trying to find the parents of my ggg-grandmother, Margaret DeArmond who married B.F. West on 8 Nov 1855 in Shelby Co, TN.
Their children were:
William Ard West, b. 1858
Edward Benjamin West, b. 1856
If any of this rings a bell, please let me know.
Thanks,
Crystal Burton
CrystalPRN@aol.com

Re: Dearmond DNA Test Site

marie_hignett — 2008-04-23 11:29:48Z

What we are trying to do it get everyone to join the site and if you would like to order a test, please do so.

the site was set up with one of My known McDearmond's to create a site were we can view all the diffrent variations of the name Dearmond,

We know that My McDearmond was Dearmond and somewhere they picked up the Mc (Which stands for Son Of)

if you have problems joining the site please email me directly at
Dicy430@aol.com

thank you for your reply

Marie

Dearmond DNA Test Site

marie_hignett — 2008-04-15 17:23:44Z

We have set up a site for Dearmond/McDearmond/ and DeArmond to have Dna testing done, and we have one person being tested now.
won't you join this group, you can order tests and you can also donate to our general fund to help others take a dna test on our web page listed below.

thank you

Marie

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Dearmond/

Re: Dearmonds

RobertDeArmond — 2009-01-19 05:51:05Z

Eli DeArmond was my 4th Great Grandfather and I would sure appriciate anything you could provide regarding the family.

I have a lot of information regarding the DeArmond's and their relatives but nothing before Eli.

I am also willing to share any information I have that may be of interest other researchers.

DeArmonds in Bakersfield, Ca

Kitty_DeArmond — 2008-06-20 01:51:57Z

I'm trying to contact cnewfield who called from Oregon wanting info. Please contact me. K. DeArmond