This is getting as confusing as the "Nicholas Lake" questions. lol

I'm not quite sure but it appears from your second sentence that you still think the 1812 James is not the one married to Eliza Ann?

I seem to have Permilla but not Pheobe. Did James and Eliza have more than 7 children? I have Charles Wesley, Lucinda M., Catherine Jane, Isaac, Elizabeth Beatrice, Mary A., and Sarah Cornelia. Is this incorrect or should I just add Pheobe to the list.

Sorry if you have already given me this but I cannot go back right at this moment and check.