Thank you for the information on your father and other ancestors. My wife's GGrandmother was Mary Etta Doebler, b. 4 July 1862, Loch Haven, PA; d. 14 Oct 1919. She was a sister of Herbert and she amrried Eugene Patrick Dolan. They made their home in Loch Haven and Emporium, PA. If interested, you amy contact me at hbelflower@aol.com and I can provide you with Herbert's ancestry. I do not have anything on Herbert's and Jenny (Batdorf)'s children. Would appreciate any info that you have on them. Harry Belflower, Bowie, MD