Well, my Grandfather Philip had only one kid, my dad. And the Ruth that was my great aunt has passed away a few years back. There must be a relation. There seems to have been some riff between my Great-Grandfather George and the rest of the family because we knew of them, but never spoke of them. Arnold Sr. and Jr. were the only two great uncles I ever heard of becuase Arnold Jr. was my High School gym teacher. I ran into my Great Aunt Ruth when I was visiting a retirment home and saw her name on the door buzzers. From my understanding, there was quite a large extended family that we never talked with and have since lost touch of. The whole incident occured back before the 50's...