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      <title>Re: John H. Kappus - 1907 - 1986 - son of George Kappus and Ellen Dormer</title>
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      <description>hi&lt;br&gt; iwas driven by martha my mom to see the kappus family in rye when i was a child</description>
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      <title>Re: John H. Kappus - 1907 - 1986 - son of George Kappus and Ellen Dormer</title>
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      <description>hi&lt;br&gt; iwas driven by martha my mom to see the kappus family in rye when i was a child</description>
      <pubDate>2012-05-11 15:10:12Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: John H. Kappus - 1907 - 1986 - son of George Kappus and Ellen Dormer</title>
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      <description>hi&lt;br&gt; iwas driven by martha my mom to see the kappus family in rye when i was a child</description>
      <pubDate>2012-05-11 15:10:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Ed Dormer, Killed in Airplane Crash 1938</title>
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      <description>Sorry - not our Dormer line.  Unfortunately though, my father was also killed in a plane crash 1973.</description>
      <pubDate>2012-02-09 05:53:33Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Ed Dormer, Killed in Airplane Crash 1938</title>
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      <description>My Dormers were from Shamokin.  My Grandmother had a brother named Ed Dormer.  He was born 11/15/1896.  Is this who you're looking for?</description>
      <pubDate>2012-01-20 21:37:34Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Ed Dormer, Killed in Airplane Crash 1938</title>
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      <description>Looking for information about Ed Dormer, possible killed in 1938 in airplane crash near Middletown PA.  Was from Shamokin, Northumberland, Pennsylvania.</description>
      <pubDate>2012-01-20 19:46:06Z</pubDate>
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      <title>DORMERS IN IRELAND</title>
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      <description>&lt;br&gt;I am looking for Dormers in Cork Ireland. I found a headstone within our family plot STUART&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The headstone reads as follows:&lt;br&gt;SACRED TO THE MEMORY OF THOMAS AND MARGARET DORMER AND THEIR CHILDREN. WILLIAM. RICHARD. GERTRUDE. DORCAS. ELIZA&lt;br&gt;WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE.......... THIS STONE WAS ERECTED BY THEIR SON THOMAS DORMER OF THE CITY OF WATERFORD......&lt;br&gt;AS A MARK OF ........ AFFECTION</description>
      <pubDate>2011-05-07 13:54:12Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>hi my name is linda dormer. my great great great grandfather is william dormer,s brother david b 1846, he also had another brother , john b 1835 and a sister esther b 1842. hope this helps. kindest regards linda. ps keep in touch and let me know how you are getting on</description>
      <pubDate>2011-05-02 10:45:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>Hi &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes a definate relative here ... my wife is directly decended from William and Sarah via their son Charles.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My wifes grandfather and your grandfather definately have a likeness to each other so that would make it a Dormer or a Johnson look!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am on chris_mcdonn(at)yahoo.co.uk&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-29 09:17:40Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>I am a descendant of William Dormer of Reading, Berkshire b. circa 1939&lt;br&gt;he was married to Sarah (Johnson)b. circa 1842&lt;br&gt;Children - William, Harry, Charles, Harriett, James &amp;amp; Arthur.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His son, Arthur Jessie Dormer b. 1870, married Rachel Harvard.  They had 6 children,one of which is my grandfather..Albert Frank Dormer b. 1898 d. 1974.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any relatives out there???&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-28 23:31:07Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hubbucks/Dormer</title>
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      <description>HI DEE,&lt;br&gt;William George Hubbucks(1872) would be my g-grandfather.  He had 3 sisters, Lily, Daisy, Amy &amp;amp; 2 brothers Benjamin &amp;amp; Thomas. Their parents were William Hubbucks and Zipah Messingbird.  Not sure what info you have/need as noticed the date posted was 2003.  Joanne</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-24 20:21:24Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer Wall Families Pennsylvania</title>
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      <description> in 1900 Frank and Lawrence Wall were living at the "St.Vincent's Orphan Asylum" in the City of Cleveland.</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-03 00:08:04Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer Wall Families Pennsylvania</title>
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      <description>we did find Frank and Lawrence Wall in a orphanage in Cleveland in 1900--also the marriage record listing says Joseph was born in Pittville,Penn--there is no Pittville,Pa. but Joseph Wall was born right near Pottsville,Pa.so i think you have something--and then you have his parents Robert Wall and Jane Dormer which is too much of a coincidence for it not to be the same Wall family.</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-02 23:22:05Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer Wall Families Pennsylvania</title>
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      <description>its easier if you e mail me at &lt;a href="mailto://geneoman2003@aol.com"&gt;geneoman2003@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;--thanks</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-01 22:06:56Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer Wall Families Pennsylvania</title>
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      <description>by the way i just checked the family Tree on Carpenter-Hines and Joseph Wall was the Lawyer--he and his Mother Jane Dormer Wall(Widowed) and his other brother i think John Wall (A legal Clerk)were living in Philadelphia in the 1880 census--like i said i can't find Joseph or John Wall by the 1900 census and i didn't know what happened to those two brothers.</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-01 22:04:55Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer Wall Families Pennsylvania</title>
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      <description>Hi sounds very interesting---did you look on the Carpenter-Hines Tree on Ancestry there is tons of information on it(Dormer-Wall family) and its a public Tree so please check the Tree and get back to me--i will look intothis new information on Joseph Wall---i know one son was a Lawyer and i can't find him or his brother by the 1900 census.The oldest son Lawrence Wall was a Catholic Priest and Pastor in Philadelphia for over 50 years and i have a lot on the Tree pertaining to him--please take a look at the Tree---Bill Carpenter Wall-Dormer </description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-01 22:00:20Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer Wall Families Pennsylvania</title>
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      <description>Hi  sounds very interesting---did you look on the Carpenter-Hines Tree on Ancestry there is tons of information on it(Dormer-Wall family) and its a public Tree so please check the Tree and get back to me--i will look intothis new information on Joseph Wall---i know one son was a Lawyer and i can't find him or his brother by the 1900 census.The oldest son Lawrence Wall was a Catholic Priest and Pastor in Philadelphia for over 50 years and i have a lot on the Tree pertaining to him--please take a look at the Tree---Bill Carpenter Wall-Dormer &lt;a href="mailto://descendant--geneoman2003@aol.com"&gt;descendant--geneoman2003@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-01 21:39:14Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer Wall Families Pennsylvania</title>
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      <description>Hi&lt;br&gt;I just recently figured out that my husband is probably descended from your Robert Wall. He descends thru Joseph who married Mary Mellen in Milwaukee WI in 1894. Joseph (or Frank as we know him) died in 1896 in WI and Mary moved back to Cleveland Ohio and was living with her parents in early 1900. Later in 1900 she was boarding with her mother and 2 of her siblings but her father was no longer in the household and her 2 boys, Frank, Jr. &amp;amp; Lawrence Patrick were in an orphanage. I found the connection to Robert and Jane Dormer from Joseph &amp;amp; Mary's marriage record. &lt;br&gt;Erin&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2011-04-01 20:29:36Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>hi barry. yes it is me. i came to your wedding to barbara and your mum,dad and carol came to my wedding. i have often thought about how to contact either you or carol but didnt quite know how. this message was passed on to me by another member on this site as i very rarely use this site. my family tree is on genes reunited and you are very welcome to look at it, although i think i have some on it wrong as im only just starting to get the hang of using a computer. my email address is &lt;a href="mailto://lindatonykeen@aol.co.uk"&gt;lindatonykeen@aol.co.uk&lt;/a&gt; and i would love to hear about all the family and how everyone is doing. i look forward to hearing from you. kindest regards linda</description>
      <pubDate>2011-03-30 11:57:41Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>Hi Linda,&lt;br&gt;        This is my first contact on the site. My grandfather was Charles Israel Dormer and he married Beatrice Harris in 1916 at St Leonard's Eynsham,Oxford.He was born in 1880 and had an brother Walter (Wally) and sister Elizabeth (Lizzie)&lt;br&gt;My father was Douglas Fuller Dormer,born 1921 we had relations who lived in Wantage Wally jnr. The two children were Kenny and Linda, are you the Linda?&lt;br&gt;Kind regards, Barry D.</description>
      <pubDate>2011-03-29 16:45:20Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer Wall Families Pennsylvania</title>
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      <description>My great grandmother was Jane Dormer Wall, born in Ireland around 1812. She immigrated to the East Norwegian section of Pottsville, in Schuykill County. She was married to Robert Wall in Ireland. He ran a hotel in that area. In one census record, a 15 year old girl named Julia Dormer is living with the Walls. There was also a John and Anne or Anna Dormer as godparents to one of Jane's grandchildren. The Walls moved to Philadelphia by 1880 and I believe some of the Dormers also lived in Philadelphia and may have worked as plumbers. Any information is greatly appreciated.</description>
      <pubDate>2010-10-02 00:49:12Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormer family tree</title>
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      <description>I'm trying to find a Pam Dormer...father was a doctor in Strathfield NSW</description>
      <pubDate>2010-09-07 12:28:20Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Dormer / Michigan</title>
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      <description>Hi,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am trying to locate descendants of Henry Dormer, who was born in Buckinghamshire, England, approx 1797 and moved to Michigan, USA approx 1838-1840.  His wife was Anastasia (Stechia) Plant and they had the following children;&lt;br&gt;Edward, Lewis, Levi, Philip, Claretta, Martha &amp;amp; Abram.  I believe they lived in Washtenaw and Calhoun, Michigan.  Henry, I believe, died approximately 1870.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any information would help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peter</description>
      <pubDate>2010-08-04 10:19:38Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>Hi Steve&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Attache the pdf to an email and send to me on chris_mcdonn(the @ sign here)yahoo.co.uk</description>
      <pubDate>2010-08-02 22:25:45Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>Hi Chris&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good to hear from you again. As you may of gathered I have picked up the research again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding the conflict it was over the two Charles Dormor/Dormer. It looks as if there were two born 1809 and 1811. I think these may have been the ones you were looking into a while ago.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well going through my records I found this link and I think it clears it all up there were two Charles who's fathers were brothers. All the dates tie in let me know what you think (picture there as well)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.adkins-family.org.uk/ps02/ps02_064.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.adkins-family.org.uk/ps02/ps02_064.htm&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding Jene Middleton I came across an entry in a parish record which could well be Jane it is two years out but very close. I need to send a pdf. to you but not sure how to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Steve</description>
      <pubDate>2010-08-02 19:09:56Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>Hi Steve - long time!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wondered where you got the info that jane Middleton is the illig daughter of Phoebe? It certainly makes sense and has made me revisit our research.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What conflicts do you have, maybe we can sort them out between us?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris  </description>
      <pubDate>2010-08-02 08:45:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>Hi Linda&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the reply&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am directly related to William and Sarah and I believe William parents to be Charles Dormor and Jane but trying to understand this as I have some conflicting info.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope to hear from you soon&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Steve  </description>
      <pubDate>2010-08-01 10:42:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Dormers in the UK?</title>
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      <description>hi steve. thank you for the info you have given me. which one of the dormers are you related to ? when i first started this i didnt think it would lead me very far but boy was i wrong much to my suprise. i have been in touch with quite a few dormer decendants. hope to hear from you soon. kind regards lin</description>
      <pubDate>2010-08-01 10:22:25Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi Linda&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My name is Steve and I am a direct descendant in the family. I have spoken to Chris before. I have again trying to pick up the family tree keep leaving it and then having another go.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have put together a short article on Jane Middleton. I think most of the fact are correct but makes interesting reading.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please do let me know and thing you may feel incorrect.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Jane Middleton was born I believe in 1815 in East Hanney, Berkshire and may well have been the illegitimate daughter of Phoebe/Phebe Middleton.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jane met Charles Dormor (Dormer) and married on the 25th December 1834. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They had one child whilst living in Hanney his name was William b1837. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Probably for work and the recent introduction of the railway they moved to Brentford where they had two further children Esther b1842 and David b 1837. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1849 there was another outbreak of Cholera ad Charles unfortunately caught the disease and died that year just two years after the birth of David.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Times must have been extremely hard with no breadwinner about and this led them going to the Abingdon Union Workhouse and in 1851 the census indicated that she was working as a washerwoman. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At some stage William met Sarah and got married. It is not clear how Jane moved back to Brentford but she died there in 1856 at the young age of 41. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The census of 1861 shows David actually living with his brother and Sarah so I assume he moved there when Jane died. Esther was more difficult to trace and I am not too sure if I found the right person but it looks as if she went into service.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I felt this was a hard sad short life for Jane.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2010-07-31 08:24:39Z</pubDate>
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      <description>hi chris, i went to lyford and it was beautiful. i found the grave you spoke about and i also found some other relatives called lamble who were buried there who are related to elizabeth dormer b 1884. apparently alot of the dormers were buried in hanney which is my next port of call for a visit. will keep in touch abit sooner hopefully. regards to you and wendy. kind regards lin</description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-24 12:30:41Z</pubDate>
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      <description>hi wyatt. i have some relatives called dormer from middlesex and also west hanney in berkshire but i cant find annie amongst them. can you give me some more info if you have any ? by the way my name was dormer before i was married. kind regards lin</description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-24 12:16:57Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi Lin&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Its pretty remote in Lyford, when I went, I ended up driving into a farm! So watch out for that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do take a look at the Almshouses too. They are relevant to your research.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally, just near the church entrance is a stone for John Alder ... he is the child of Maria Alder and John Dormer but before their marriage.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enjoy your searching,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris</description>
      <pubDate>2010-05-17 12:28:27Z</pubDate>
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      <description>hi chris, thanks for your reply. yes that does tie in with me. i am going to lyford this weekend to have a look at the churchyard and also see what else i can find out so will let you know what i find. kind regards to you and wendy, best wishes lin</description>
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      <description>Hi Lin&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our Charles Dormer was born in 1811 and in Lyford.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wendy, my wife, descends from this Charles via his son William b1837.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does that tie in for you?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris </description>
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      <description>hi bob, thanks for all the info from you and thanks to chris for forwarding it to me. there is alot there for me to sift through. as regards elizabeth fuller she was born in brentford in 1831. she had an illigitamate child charles fuller dormer born 1855. as for mary dormer i will look into it and let you know what i find. kind regards lin</description>
      <pubDate>2010-05-04 15:00:06Z</pubDate>
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      <description>This is from Bob but he asked that I post it for him due to difficulties he is having in doing so:&lt;br&gt;------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is what I have for Israel DORMER&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The 1841 Census has him listed in Lyford, with his age suggesting a birth date of 1828, born Berkshire, occupation Ag Labourer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did not find him in 1851, but in 1861 he is in Hammersmith, his place of birth as &lt;br&gt;	Hanney,  With him were &lt;br&gt;his wife Elizabeth A. DORMER, born 1831 Brentford, &lt;br&gt;his son Charles born 1855 in Brentford, &lt;br&gt;his son James born 1853 in Brentford,&lt;br&gt;his son Thomas born 1852 in Brentford&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the 1871 Census, son Charles is living with Stephen and Maria Higgs and described as nephew.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also in the 1841 Census, there is an Israel DORMER listed in Lyford with the family of John and Susan ALDER.  His birth year is 1828 and he is listed as Agricultural Labourer.  It looks as if he was listed twice.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a note in my records that Israel and Elizabeth DORMER in the 1841 Census are neighbours of William and Sarah DORMER- is there a connection?  I haven’t pursued the answer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What follows now is the data I have found by going through the CD transcripts put out by the Oxford FHS for north Berks, and on which I have built up my wife’s family tree:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;William DORMOR and Mary COX married 267 Dec 1758&lt;br&gt;	The marriage register lists his age as 61. bachelor, farmer/  His age might suggest &lt;br&gt;		why I can only find one offspring&lt;br&gt;	Mary Cox is described as a widow of Tho Cox&lt;br&gt;	Son		John DARMAN	baptized 11 May 1760		         Hanney&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John DARMAN and Elizabeth TAYLOR married 28 Jul 1781&lt;br&gt;	His burial is recorded on 11 May 1760 at Hanney&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;	Son		Charles DORMAN	baptized 18 Oct 1782			Lyford&lt;br&gt;		His burial is recorded at Lyford on 22 Oct 1782&lt;br&gt;	Daughter	Elizabeth DORMAN		baptized 22 Feb 1784		Lyford&lt;br&gt;	Son 		John DORMER		baptized 10 Jun 1787		Lyford&lt;br&gt;		His burial is recorded at Lyford on 18 Jul 1830&lt;br&gt;	Daughter	Sarah DORMER		baptized 31 Oct 1790		Lyford&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note – it is difficult to know if they were changing the surname as time passed or whether in an age of illiteracy the person writing up the records wrote what they thought the spelling should be.  In my records I record what the transcripts show.  (And of course the writing could have been so bad that this is the best the transcriber could make of it!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John DORMER and Maria ALDER married 19 Nov 1810.&lt;br&gt;	The banns were read on 21 and 28 Oct, 4 Nov in Hanney church.  The record &lt;br&gt;		shows Maria from Baulking.  The same information has been copied into &lt;br&gt;		the Lyford register.  In both registers, the groom is shown as Joseph &lt;br&gt;		DORMER.&lt;br&gt;	The marriage of John DORMER and Maria ALDER is recorded in the Uffington &lt;br&gt;		Register&lt;br&gt;	His burial is recorded on 18 Jul 1830 - Lyford&lt;br&gt;	There is a baptism of a Maria ALDER in Uffington on 20 Jul 1788, d of Thomas &lt;br&gt;		and Mary (Watts), which is quite likely her.&lt;br&gt;	Her burial is recorded on 16 Dec 1874 – Lyford.  The burial record shows her&lt;br&gt;		surname as DORMOR, still living at the Almshouses&lt;br&gt;	The parish register for her baptism lists her as 2 weeks old&lt;br&gt;	The 1841 census shows her living independently in Lyford.&lt;br&gt;	She is shown as living in the Almshouses on the 1851 Census&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;	Daught	er	Mary ALDER			baptism 29 May 1808		Lyford&lt;br&gt;		Note date prior to marriage and recorded as illegitimate daughter of &lt;br&gt;			Maria&lt;br&gt;		The register gives her birth date as 19 May 1808	&lt;br&gt;	Son		Charles DORMAN		baptism 9 Jun 1811		Lyford&lt;br&gt;		Register gives birth date of 3 Jun 1811&lt;br&gt;		Death Certificate gives date of death as 6 Aug 1849 in Brentford, cause &lt;br&gt;			Cholera&lt;br&gt;	Daughter	Hester DORMAN alias DORMOR	baptism 30 May 1813	Lyford&lt;br&gt;		This is what the register shows&lt;br&gt;		Lyford Register shows marriage to James Rutland, witness Charles &lt;br&gt;			Dormor&lt;br&gt;	Daughter	Harriet DORMAN			baptism 20 Apr 1817	Lyford&lt;br&gt;	Son		Thomas DORMAN			baptism 18 Sep 1819	Lyford&lt;br&gt;		Date of death was 13 Sep 1819 in Lyford.  Burial register uses surname of &lt;br&gt;			DORMAN, 2 days old&lt;br&gt;	Son		David DORMAN			baptism 27 Aug 1820	Lyford&lt;br&gt;		Burial Register lists him as DORMER on 21 Jun 1891 in Lyford&lt;br&gt;		Marriage to Mary Anne ALDWORTH. Charney Wooten, Berks copied &lt;br&gt;			into Lyford from Hanney register.  ALDER and ALDWORTH are &lt;br&gt;			interchangeable surnames in my wife’s line, so he could have &lt;br&gt;			married a relation&lt;br&gt;			His surname is shown as DORMER on 1841 and 1851 censuses&lt;br&gt;	Son		Giles DORMAN			baptism 24 Feb 1823	Lyford&lt;br&gt;		Burial Lyford on 3 Jan 1898&lt;br&gt;	Daughter	Maria DORMAN			baptism 30 Jan 1826	Lyford&lt;br&gt;	Son		Israel DORMAN			baptism 8 Jun 1828	Lyford&lt;br&gt;	&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Charles DORMAN married Jane MIDDLETON on 25 Dec 1834&lt;br&gt;	His burial is recorded on 6 Aug 1849 in Brentford&lt;br&gt;	I have no details on Jane – one of my mysteries&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;	Son 		John DORMOR			baptized 26 Aug 1835	Lyford&lt;br&gt;		Burial at Lyford on 7 Sep 1935 with surname of DORMOR&lt;br&gt;	Son		William DORMER			baptized 20 Jan 1837	East Hanney&lt;br&gt;		Death certificate has date of 28 Sep 1897 in Brentford&lt;br&gt;		Marriage certificate shows occupation as labourer/ Marriage took place in &lt;br&gt;			the Parish Church, Ealing, Middlesex – residence Old Brentford&lt;br&gt;	Daughter	Esther DORMER			baptized about 1842	Brentford&lt;br&gt;	Son 		David DORMER			baptized about 1846	Brentford&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Charles and Jane are my wife’s great great grandparents.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This would be a good time for each of us to say who we are connected to and see what our relationships are.  And if not to this line, what other clues are there to sort things out?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My wife’s ancestry goes on down through William DORMER of 1837.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris – your mail of April 13 refers to Maria born in 1826 who is Pat’s GG Grandmother, so we definitely have a connection there.  I believe we have previously established that our wife and mine are connected through Charles and Jane Middleton.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Linda – re Elizabeth Fuller, I have added her to my tree as Israel’s wife.  Do you have any other details on her?  Birth date, where, date of marriage, etc.?  If she is from the north Berks area, I will be happy to search for her and her antecedents there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your mail of April 16th mentioned a Mary DORMER in Wantage in 1786.  I can’t find her on the Wantage transcript.  Was this a baptismal date? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is it for now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob&lt;br&gt;------------------------------------------------------------</description>
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      <description>Hi My names Wyatt Waters&lt;br&gt;i am looking for living relatives in the UK, my grandma's name was Annie Ellen Dormer born 1880 in Middelsex England, she married John Howard Waters.  all there kids are in BC and Alberta.  what i would like to find is the kids of Annie's brothers and sisters.  if anyone has a granddad or grandma who's sister was Annie please let me know.&lt;br&gt;thanks&lt;br&gt;Wyatt</description>
      <pubDate>2010-05-03 20:33:41Z</pubDate>
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      <description>hi chris sorry for the delay in rteplying. what date was your charles dormer born and was it in brentford ? where about,s does your wife originate from ?i am gradually getting all my bits and pieces togethter and have lots more relations in wantage than i realised. just trying to get a map of wantage in the 1800,s as the address given on the census reports no longer exist. kind regards lin</description>
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      <description>hi chris, i have traced a mary dormer in wantage in1786. i have so many bits of info written on so many bits of paper im going to spend this weekend writing it all out in sequence so i will contact you as soon as i have placed eveyone where they belong. i was born in wantage and now live in grove which is the village between wantage and west hanny so as you can see i have,nt moved very far. i have to visit our library to get a map of wantage in the 1800,s as the street listed where some of the dormers lived is not there any more so i would like to establish exactly where is was as im eager to see where my family used to live. here,s hoping i have found a new relation in your wife. i will be in contact very soon. kind regards to both you and wendy regards lin</description>
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      <description>Hi Lin&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes that ties in ... is Israel 1828 (his wife is Elizabeth Fuller by the way) the farthest you have gone back? I dont want to just replicate what you already have. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My wife is descended from Israels brother Charles.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe we should catch up by telephone?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris &amp;amp; Wendy</description>
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      <description>hi chris, sorry i must have missed your message about israel dormer. im not very good at this site yet so please bear with me. i live in grove which is just outside wantage and yes i did live in that grove street. my father was walter henry dormer b 1922.grandad was walter dormer b 1882 in west hanney. he had a sister elizabeth dormer b 1884 and a brother charles b 1880.grandads farther was charles dormer b1855 from brentford middlesex. israel dormer was born in wantage in 1828 and his wife was called elizabeth. does this tie in with anything you have ? kind regards lin</description>
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      <description>Hi Linda&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did you miss my post regarding Israel etc?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you in the Wantage area now? Noticed that you said to Bob regarding Grove St ... is it the same one?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris </description>
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      <description>hi bob, thanks for your prompt reply. yes that is my charles dormer who,s father was israel, and maria. the name of higgs is also someone who married a dormer. i would be very grateful for any further information you may have. as regards the fuller connection who lived in grove street, its weird because i used to live in grove street until i married and moved to grove so the family has,nt moved very far has it. kind regards lin</description>
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      <description>No, Linda, I don't see a direct connection, though I suspect if we could go back far enough there might be one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some years ago I trolled Ancestry census records and have this:&lt;br&gt;1861 census Hammersmith address - Charles Dormer s of Israel and Elizabeth A. Dormer, born 1855 Brentford.  He is also listed in 1871 wuth a West Hanney address, same details, plus note that he was living with Steven and Maria Higgs and shown as newphew.  Could this be the Maria Dormer, now married, of 1837 Lyford?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I note his middle name of "Fuller" (which doesn't show in the census). Surnames as forenames always make me think there is a throw back to earlier generations, and I have the following:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The 1841 census for Wantage has this family listed on Grove Street:  William Fuller b 1776 ag lab; Ann Fuller b 1781; Daniel Fuller b 1821; Ann Middleton b 1811; Eliza Middleton b 1836; Helen Middleton b 1840, all born in Berkshire.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My interest in this family was that Middleton is a female line that married into my wife's family.  I've never pursued any of these further, but they may be of interest to you, and maybe to me some day.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm away from Thursday until the 29th, but if you have any further thoughts, send them along and I'll deal with them on my return.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob Burns</description>
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      <description>Hi Linda (Hi Bob - I think we have this one)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding your charles fuller dormer - We have a marriage of Israel Dormer to Elizabeth Fuller on 27 July 1856 at St Bride Fleet Street (I have no idea why but it may have something to do with having children before they married) and would be the parents of Thomas , James and Charles all born in Brentford. Israel was from Hanney in Berks and Elizabeth Fuller from Brentford.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think this is a good connection to your family and the Israel mentioned is the brother of my wifes GGG Grandfather Charles born in Lyford in 1811. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a Maria born in 1826 who is the sister of Israel and Charles in Lyford. Not sure where you arrived at a birth date for the Maria you mentioned.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me know if this works for you - we can go back a little more from here but lets agree this part first? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are in Herts, UK, where are you based?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;regards&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris (hopefully the husband of your cousin!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2010-04-13 21:03:56Z</pubDate>
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      <description>hi bob, thanks for your reply. regarding the berntford connection my great grandfather charles fuller dormer was born in brentford ,middlesex in 1855 but moved back to wantage where his death is registered aged 44 in1898. any connection to your brentford connections. regards linda</description>
      <pubDate>2010-04-13 19:25:40Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hello Linda&lt;br&gt;I may be a disappointment again as I do not have the four people you list for the dates or places you mention.  There is a Maria Dormer listed in the Lyford Baptismal register for 1853 daughter to David and Mary Anne.  There are two 1855 baptisms in Lyford, but neither has the forename of Charles. I've checked my database information back to the Lyford CD transcript issued by the Oxfordshire FHS, and this is all that appears.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unfortunately, the Hanney CD transcript only has baptisms up to 1812.  The last baptism in Hanney in my wife's tree was born in 1837, and he did not have a sibling called Maria.  By 1842 this family was in Brentford, Middlesex.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you feel I might be able to help you at aty time with the earlier dates, please write again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob Burns</description>
      <pubDate>2010-04-13 00:52:20Z</pubDate>
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      <description>hi chris thanks for your reply. i have maria dormer b 1837 lyford, israel dormer b 1828 wantage, mary dormer b 1817 west hanney, walter dormer b 1882 west hanney, charles dormer b 1880 west hanney, elizabeth dormer b 1884 west hanney also various other dormers back to 1786 in wantage. hope these can be of help. please let me know if ther is any indication of a family connection. kind regards linda</description>
      <pubDate>2010-04-12 11:24:11Z</pubDate>
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      <description>hi bob thanks for your reply. i have a maria dormer in lyford in 1837. i have charles dormer in west hanney 188o, walter dormer in west hanney in 1882 and elizabth dormer in 1884. also a charles dormer from lyford in 1855. are there any link,s ? lets hope so. regards linda</description>
      <pubDate>2010-04-12 11:07:14Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hello Linda&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My wife has Dormer connections in the Hanney, Lyford, Uffington area in the 1800s.  If you can give me a couple of names and details around the 1855 time frame, I will see what I can do to help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob Burns</description>
      <pubDate>2010-04-10 14:57:04Z</pubDate>
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