Don- I haven't been able so far to tie in the names you mention the birth year for your John doesn't match any of the Johns in my lineage but who knows what may turn up. Also the name Conrad is not very common- I have found it in two othe lines that I haven't been able to connect- one from a geneleman in Ill. whom I doubt is still alive since he was born in 1911 and another from Kathi Abendroth in Seattle- you can find her on the Abendroth message board. If you would like any more of my info or have some of your own to share let me know.Donna