Drinkwater - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Elizabeth (Eliza) Drinkwater

colonelp1 — 2012-05-07 21:59:35Z

Hello Candice, No worries on the time frame. I am not always that prompt myself.. LOL
Anastasia's parents were Edward DRINKWATER b. 05 Nov 1829 m. Susan JONES b. ????, Edward was the son of John DRINKWATER b. ???? m. Jane MACNEIL b. 1799. You can email me anytime if you have more questions at colonelp (at) telusplanet.net. What is your mom's name? I have Theresa, Jean, Edith M, Thelma, Margaret, Fred, Margaret Mable, Evelyn, Eldred, Ernest, Joseph Herman and Charles for their children with very few dates. Let me know if i have any errors needing corrections.

Re: Elizabeth (Eliza) Drinkwater

candicevi1981 — 2012-05-03 18:38:44Z

Hi Andrea,
Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you. My line is anastasia m joseph, to william a. fougere m eva "may" leblanc to my grandmother. I am having no luck whatsoever going further than Anastasia's mother and father. I will keep in contact with any information that could be useful to you.
Candice

Re: Elizabeth (Eliza) Drinkwater

colonelp1 — 2012-05-03 02:25:26Z

hello candice,
Anastasia was my greatgrandmother. My line runs from anastasia m. joseph fougere in 1894 to stella irene m. jude edmond melanson in 1926 to my mother. Let me know if you are interested in any further information on the living side of my family. Maybe we can discuss more of the message boards.
Andrea

Re: Elizabeth (Eliza) Drinkwater

candicevi1981 — 2012-04-13 02:01:57Z

Hello, I was searching through posts hoping to see other information and noticed that you mention Anastacia Drinkwater. She was my great, great grandmother and I have very little information on her, but I do believe that there is a picture of her at my grandmother's house that I will be posting soon.

Re: Drinkwater-DeWater-D'Water

bnadinec — 2012-03-24 18:36:13Z

I, too, am a direct descendent of John Drinkwater through his son Myron Clark Drinkwater, and his son Orlo Hine Drinkwater. Myron died Mar. 15, 1861, and is buried in Cedar Point Cemetery, Cedar Point, Chase County, Kansas. You may view his grave stone on Findagrave.com. You will notice that two sons' deaths are inscribed also. I have had no success in locating the burial site of Myron's wife,
Prudence Pauline (Paulina) Pease Drinkwater as yet. She is not in the Cedar Point Cemetery. John Drinkwater has been an elusive ancestor to trace. Do you know where in NY he was born or anything else about him? In which cemetery in Topeka did Myron purchase grave sites?

Re: D's in BC

jherzog4386 — 2012-02-08 17:20:51Z

Update on my email: DRINKWATER@one0name.org is the correct one. Sorry about that.

Re: Drinkwaters in Ontario

a10tankbuster — 2012-02-07 20:03:16Z

hi i am the grandson of charles drinkwater who married lousia edge in 1917 my mother was lousia grandma was a widow her first husband was killed in action in 1916. are we both on the same track if so please replay.

Re: Derbyshire Origins - John Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2012-02-06 21:00:06Z

Glad to see you are back with your research Mike.
I am still making discoveries about the Derbyshire Drinkwaters.
I told you I was unable to trace the wife of John, son of Edward Drinkwater, baptised in 1710 in Hayfield Parish Church.
Yesterday I found a record of a marriage bond for his intended marriage to Mary Booth, spinster of Mottram in Longdendale, Cheshire for 30 October 1753
Mottram is not very far from Beard where the D. family lived at this time.
The ref is "England, Cheshire Marriage Bonds and Allegations 1606-1910" found on Ancestry.
My basic membership does not enable me to open this link.
I also suspect that this was John's second marriage. Am working on this!
Meadowgate

Re: Charles Drinkwater

kiptonash — 2012-01-30 14:21:21Z

I have just found this message.

I can find the birth of your Charles but nothing about Thomas and Jane. Were they born in England or the US. There are a lot of marriages for Thomas and Janes!
B

Re: Charles Drinkwater

kiptonash — 2012-01-30 14:11:20Z

I am the great grand daughter of Charles Drinkwater born 1842, his father was also a Charles born in Rosthern in 1799. I don't think they are closely related to your Charles and I can't find a likely Charles.

The Edges were obviously friends of the Drinkwaters and there seems to be a link somewhere...

Erbistock is in North Wales.
Please get in touch I'll keep a better look out for messages!
B

Re: Charles Drinkwater

kiptonash — 2012-01-30 14:05:28Z

I have only just found this message!

Do you know anything about Charles Drinkwater?

I have found that a Charles Drinkwater was the first Treasurer Secretary of the Canadian Pacific Railway and that Drinkwater in Saschatuan(sorry can't spell!) was named after him - and probably Rosthern as the Drinkwaters came from there. It's in Cheshire, UK. I can't find any likely Charles Drinkwater here.
I have a funeral card for an Elizabeth Edge wife of the late Thomas Edge of Manley Cottage Erbistock. She died April 1942.
B

Re: uxbridge middlesex england Drinkwaters

phoebedrinkwater12 — 2011-11-13 07:14:47Z

Dear Barry

I to am researching Drinkwater's who lived in the middlesex area of england, i would be willing to help you.

Phoebe

Re: Charles Drinkwater

a10tankbuster — 2011-11-12 12:25:41Z

hi charles drinkwater was my grandfather and lousia edge was my grandmother. he left his family and went to canada.could you tell me who you are and what country you live in.
alfred wilcox (son of lousia drinkwater)

Re: Joseph and Hannah DRINKWATER

1_sheila36 — 2011-09-14 17:42:31Z

I realise it is a while since your post but your Drinkwaters at 5 Gas St in 1861 Census are my ancesters. Samuel age 6 at the time is my Gt Gt Grandfather. I have a lot of information about the family so if you are still looking for info I could help.

Re: Thomas Drinkwater b. Cheshire, England bef 1700, m. Elizabeth Haskell

kiptonash — 2011-06-06 14:05:55Z

Have you got any further with this? My Drinkwaters come from Rosthern, Cheshire. The Cheshire County Archive people are very helpful and put me on to a site where you can see all the Parish Registers in the area going back to 1538. Thomas is a common name - perhaps I'll have a look for their marriage.

I saw that there are towns named Rosthern and Drinkwater in Canada and I'm sure that they must have been named by one of my ancestors relatives.

Barbara

Re: Charles Drinkwater

kiptonash — 2011-06-06 13:54:18Z

I've just read the posting that says Charles Drinkwater was married to Louisa Edge. I have a funeral card for an Elizabeth Edge who died 1942 aged 82, wife of the late Thomas Edge of Manley Cottage, Erbistock - in North Wales. It came from my Great aunt Alice née Drinkwater. I wonder if there's a connection?

Barbara

Re: Charles Drinkwater

rambros19 — 2011-05-31 01:55:02Z

I have a Charles Drinkwater born 8 Apr 1844 in Shelburne, Vermont, the son of Thomas Drinkwater and Jane Carpenter who were born in England. This Charles died 10 Jun 1909. Not the Charles you are looking for I am sure, but the same name and near same birth year.

Re: Thomas Drinkwater b. Cheshire, England bef 1700, m. Elizabeth Haskell

CharKolterman — 2011-04-28 02:39:36Z

Richard, Your William Warren Drinkwa(l)ter in PA who married Almira PRATT was a brother to my Levi Drinkwalter.
Please contact me directly, chark @ cableone.net
I look forward to hearing from you. Charlene

Re: Charles Drinkwater

kiptonash — 2011-04-01 08:50:13Z

I do have Charles Drinkwater connections - it is a common name in my family back to 1800.

I have a death notice for an Elizabeth Edge who died aged 82 in Ebistock - a small village in Wales. She was wife of the late Thomas Edge. I don't know who they are
Barbara

Charles Drinkwater

catschis — 2011-03-15 21:34:09Z

I am searching for decendents of Charles Drinkwater born 1895 in England. He married Louisa Edge in 1917 and had three daughters with her. Mary (1918) Kathleen (1920) and Louisa (1922) in Chorlton, Manchester, England. He left England in 1923 and came to Canada, settling in Toronto.
He did not bring his family with him. If any of these names are familiar, please reply.

Re: Drinkwaters in Ontario

catschis — 2011-03-15 21:24:48Z

I am the grandaughter of Charles Drinkwater born in 1895 in England. He was married to Louisa Edge in 1917. They had three girls Mary (1918) Kathleen (1920)and Louisa (1922)in Chorlton, Manchester, England.
He abandoned his family and came to Canada in 1923, and settled in Toronto. He started another family there.
If any of this sounds familiar, please let me know.

Re: Elsie Marie Drinker

lks_friday — 2011-02-20 22:29:23Z

Daughter, Helen Riffe is buried in an UNMARKED GRAVE in the Washington Cemetery, Houston, Harris Co., TX ...

Re: Elsie Marie Drinker

lks_friday — 2011-02-20 22:27:20Z

George Lee Riffe, Jr. was my step-grandfather ... I knew him all my life until his death ... I attended his funeral and have the flag that was on his casket ... I was just at his grave last week on 10 Feb 2011 ...

Need help with Drinkwater/Mathis marriage and family info

BucksKid2 — 2011-02-15 17:21:50Z

Am trying to find out the full name, marriage date and date of death of an Unk. Drinkwater to Nancy "Nannie" Mathis.

Nancy's father, William Mathis shows on his civil war pension file that her surname is Drinkwater. Found her on the 1900 & 1910 census in Kokomo, Howard Co., IND., enum. as a widow.

Nancy's surname may have spelling variation, i.e., Mathes, Matthis, Mathews, Matthew. She was born Jan 1856, prob. in Howard Co., IND.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Mary

Henry (1800) & Joseph (1809)

Adnepos_Iacobi — 2011-02-13 22:37:49Z

You are right, I have confused the two Joseph Drinkwaters born 1804/1809.

Henry DRINKWATER b 1800, in 1841 at Clough Head, Chinley, Derbyshire, England with Joseph aged '60' in the household. Note that Mary MARSHALL aged 10 years is with the family at the time of this census. It looks like Hannah BRAMWELL (chr 1807 nearby Chapel-en-le-Frith) first married Miles MARSHALL (b abt 1807, Levenshulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England, married 1828 at Chapel-en-le-Frith) and they had children Walter and Mary Louisa (chr March 1831, Chapel-en-le-Frith).

Edward and Sarah not only had a Joseph (b 1804) but they also had a Henry (b 1800, confusingly).

I'll answer offline on the Derbyshire FHS question

Re: Drinkwaters and Handfords

meadowgate — 2011-02-13 18:14:38Z

I have been looking through my notes and will try to help you. I suspect that you may be confusing two different strands of the huge Drinkwater family.
There were two Josephs born 1804 and 1809. Both were bt. at The Former Mill Brow Independent Chapel, Marple Bridge.
Their fathers were cousins Edward and Joseph both farming on the "New Land" in the Mellor area. Their ancestor was William Drinkwater of Green Head Farm in Bugsworth.

Edward and Sarah's son was a shoemaker who married Elizaberh Handford and lived at Wood Cottage in Bugsworth.

Joseph, son of Joseph and Ann was the manager of the Waterworks in Duckinfield, Cheshire. His son, James married Esther Morten.
Henry, son of Joseph and Ann married Hannah Marshall and inherited Clough Head Farm Bugsworth.

Joseph, son of Henry married Leah.

There are records in New Mills and Taxal for "Waterworks" Joseph and his family. Elizabeth died in 1865 and is buried at Taxal. Joseph re-married 16 Aug. 1871 at St Mary's Stockport to Sarah Frost. I think he may be buried at Hayfield.

Are you a member of Derbyshire FHS? There is a member who has published articles about the Mortens and Turners. She is also looking for the Turner- Drinkwater marriage.

I will keep looking for the burials of Joseph and Leah.

Hope this helps

Re: Drinkwaters and Handfords

meadowgate — 2011-02-06 15:24:44Z

I am away from home for a few days but on my return I will be able to answer the queries in your post.
I have recently been tracing the children of Henry and Betty Drinkwater
I also have some information about the two Josephs in my files.

The Drinkwaters also owned Ravensleach and Edward wrote his will there in (I think 1756) He left the farm to his grandson John Worrall. Later it was owned by the Hall family who became rich from the coal mined at Ravensleach.

Sarah DRINKWATER b abt 1700 High Peak Derbyshire

Adnepos_Iacobi — 2011-02-06 13:56:31Z

I have as g6 grandparents a Sarah who married Ralph TURNER (chr 1706 CelF) of Chapel-en-le-Frith abt 1730 (no marriage found but their eldest known child christened 1731). She was buried at Chapel-en-le-Frith in 1802.

She is suspected to have been a Drinkwater.

Can anybody confirm the suspicion with some evidence? Can anybody provide a lead on her ancestry?

Two grand-daughters of the above Ralph and Sarah married local Drinkwaters:

Henry DRINKWATER (b 1800 Disley) m Hannah BRAMWELL 1838 Chapel-en-le-Frith
James DRINKWATER (b 1834 Bugsworth) m Esther MORTEN 1853 Stockport

Re: Drinkwater

Adnepos_Iacobi — 2011-02-06 00:33:16Z

A lot of great grandfather Samuel's information is consistent with parish registers. The only correction is that it seems that Hannah (chr 1799 Hayfield), daughter of Henry DRINKWATER not Mary that married William BROCKLEHURST of Ridge Top.

Drinkwaters and Handfords

Adnepos_Iacobi — 2011-02-05 23:56:47Z

Interesting to read about Henry marrying Betty HANDFORD at Glossop in 1788. I am looking at Joseph DRINKWATER (b abt 1808) marrying Elizabeth HANDFORD at Glossop in 1832 and the places of burial of 26 Mar 1891 death of Joseph DRINKWATER (died 26 Mar 1891)and his wife Leah DRINKWATER (nee Goddard, death registered Q1 1891).

Incidentally, I have another connection between Ravensleach/Ravenslack at Ollersett/Birch Vale. I suspect this property was in the ownership of the Allens of Chapel-en-le-Frith in the early 18th century and on the death of the last of the male line, Thomas ALLEN in 1713 it seems this property went to his sister Grace. She first married Anthony RADCLIFF of Spinner Bottom, Thornsett in 1728. After husband Anthony died, Grace remarried to widower Samuel Wild (marriage details not found). I just thought this snippet might help.

Re: Looking for relatives

ericatk22 — 2011-01-16 02:40:48Z

My family is the Drinkwater family. My grandfather is Donald Earl Drinkwater, His parents are Minor Drinkwater and Jessie Shoemaker-Drinkwater.

Re: Drinkwaters in Ontario

jaydon2 — 2011-01-01 18:54:28Z

Good day,
Looking for information of Charles Drinkwater, b. Aug 1886/7, living in Brampton, Ontario during the 1901 & 1911 Census, as follows:

1901 Canada Census / Ontario / District: ON PEEL (#103) / Subdistrict: Brampton (Town/Ville) A-4 Page 8
23 88 Beals Isaac M Head M Dec 18 1844 56, occupation shoe maker
24 88 Beals Frances F Wife M Dec 1 1843 57
25 88 Large William M S Jul 18 1878 22, step son
26 88 Drinkwater Chas. F M S Aug 26 1886 14, step son, occupation shoe maker
27 88 Carter Charlotte F Niece S Mar 30 1884 17, niece

1911 Canada census / Ontario / Peel / 35 Brampton / Main St. / page 21
24 247 Drinkwater Chas. M Head S Aug 1887 24, occupation Tailor
25 247 Drinkwater Frances F Mother W Oct 1844 67

Regards,
Don Chesney

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2010-11-12 20:07:16Z

Dear Mike,
I hope you will be in contact soon because I have spent the last months sorting out the descendents of John and Mary at Goytside. I cannot tell you Mary's name because I cannot find a marriage. It could be at Stockport St Mary but not in nearby Cheshire parishes. At her burial at Hayfield she was described as the widow of John Drinkwater.
The farm in Chinley where their son John and his wife Mary lived until they went to America is for sale. The price is £500,000. There are pictures on the internet. It is called Maynestone Farm and they were the owners.
Meadowgate

Re: Drinkwaters in Canada

smileysoc — 2010-07-06 20:48:19Z

my great-grandmother is a decendant, (i think grandchild.) of john drinkwater (poet), if this helps with your tree at all, you can use it.

drinkwater/hiddden

gaylepelham54 — 2010-07-02 17:14:59Z

hi while i was tracing the family name of hidden,

i came across the name of drinkwater,it looks like my family going back tothe 1880 that willaum henry james took on 3 chidren with the name drinkwater the first one was lily m hidden /drinkwater in 1887 i notice that that they live neext door to them in the 1990 censis, can anyone shed alight on this
thankyou gayle

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2010-06-06 15:11:00Z

Dear Mike,
I am pleased to hear from you again and look forward to sharing information about the Drinkwater families.
I was sorry to hear about the recent death of your father.
I was encouraged by your question about the marriage of Edward and Ann which I had previously discounted as a close match to my research. However I have spent some time re- reading parish records and documents about the area and am not as certain as I can be that this couple are indeed our ancestors in common.
They had several children. Their second son William is my ancestor and their youngest son, John is yours.
I have begun to write notes about this period which are too long to include here but I could send them by e-mail privately if you would like them.
Meadowgate

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

rci124 — 2010-06-03 04:16:36Z

Hello,

Meadow my father passed away February 19th and I have taken some time away from searching for family relatives. In the next month or so I will start my searching again. If there is anything I can help you with let me know.

Mike

Drinkwater family - Hayes/Hillingdon, Middlesex, England

jackielawton10 — 2010-05-08 16:38:42Z

Can anyone help me?
I'm looking for more information on the Drinkwater family from Hayes/Hillingdon area in Middlesex, England.
I have George Drinkwater (b. abt 1806 in Hayes) married to F Anderson (b. abt 1811 in Harlington) & they had 11 children: Mary (1831), George (1834), Frances Hannah (1835), Joseph (1837), Emma (1841), Elizabeth (1843), Thomas (1846), Ann Jane (1847), Lucy (1849), John (1852) & William (1854)
I would like to go further back than George & F Anderson
& any info on their children would be much appreciated.
Thank-you

Re: Richard Drinkwater of Portsmouth England 1683

LaurieOrser — 2010-05-04 16:25:12Z

Thank you very much, I will see if I can find it.

Kind regards,
Laurie Orser

Re: Richard Drinkwater of Portsmouth England 1683

wahcssr — 2010-05-04 15:43:46Z

Once I was browsing in the Library of Congress in Washington DC and I came across a small red-covered book entitled "Drinkwater" One thing I remember that it stated is that a certain Thomas Drinkwater, a sea-captain came to the Plymouth Colony from England, married, and had nine sons. If you can find that book it might help you. God luck! Warren Drinkwater

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2010-03-20 13:36:40Z

I have spent a lot of time this winter trying to sort out the earliest records of the High Peak, Derbyshire Drinkwaters. I have now searched the Hayfield records many times but there are so many illegible or spoilt pages that it is not possible to find all the records for this family.
It is quite possible to connect one generation with another but without conclusive proof. However I feel fairly sure that the Edward who married Ann Wild is one of the oldest children of Edward and Ruth Drinkwater of Higg Hill born possibly in 1675. The next child, Jane, was baptised at Hayfield on July 17 1676. The pages here were very difficult to read in this part of the record.
I see that you have investigated the Marriage Bond. Did you see any original information? I am not able to access this information but hope you can help me to find out more about this Edward.
Meadowgate

Capt. J.J. Drinkwater, Rockland, Maine (James Jefferson Drinkwater)

Cindy_Beane — 2010-02-20 13:22:33Z

I don't have any connection to this family but found this while doing other research. I am posting hundreds of these “blurbs” because I believe it helps to see our ancestors as people rather than just names and dates and, in some cases, it helps to place where our ancestors were during a certain period of time.

It is from the April 13, 1901 issue of the Rockland-Maine Courier-Gazette in a column entitled "This Week Twenty-Five Years Ago." It covers "happenings" in the Rockland vicinity for the week ending Apr. 13, 1876."

"The upper story of Capt. J.J. Drinkwater's house on Hibernia street was damaged by fire. The fire originated in a clothes press and was discovered by Miss MInnie Drinkwater, daughter of Capt. Drinkwater, who was lying sick with a fever in one of the chambers."

In checking further, Capt. Drinkwater died in Rockland on May 27, 1917 and is buried at the Seaview Cemetery in Rockland.

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2010-02-06 19:27:46Z

Dear tevans 16,
I sent you a private e-mail but wonder if you have changed your address?
I am still at the address you have used before and would like to share more information with you about our ancestors.
meadowgate

Drinkwater Family in St. George, MAine - 1895 Town Census

Cindy_Beane — 2010-02-03 21:58:48Z

I have no connection to this family but wanted to share this information as this would be impossible to come by and I know personally how helpful this can be. It is from the book "Vital Records of St. George, Maine". Included in there is an 1895 Town Census. In most cases they give ACTUAL birth dates AND also in most cases, they give the wife’s maiden name. Apparently they’re not all in alphabetical order, so I may be adding to this, so here goes:

p. 516

Drinkwater
Fred, b. June 8, 1856
Annie (Best), b. Apr 12, 1866
Edward, b. Aug 17, 1887
Henry, b. Nov 3, 1888
Herbert, b. May 25, 1890
Alden, b. Aug 21, 1894

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2010-01-30 18:46:27Z

Firstly there are several Edward Drinkwaters in the Hayfield Parish records. One of these is the father of the brothers we are researching.
I have not found a marriage for any of thse Edwards in either Glossop records, which are well preserved, or in Hayfield records which have many spoilt of illegible pages.
This probably means that the marriages were not in these churches which means that they were not in the ancient parish of Glossop.
I have also looked in Chapel en le Frith records but not in great depth.
I suspect that these marriages were in Cheshire. Disley is a parish in Cheshire as is Marple. They are both in the area we are researching but I cannot access records for Cheshire as they are not held at Matlock which has only Derbyshire Records.
I have also found the marriage bond for Edward and Ann Wild.
I may be able to find out more when I can visit the National Archives at Kew in London.
They could possibly be the parents of Edward.
I was back in Matlock this week to look at the Hayfield records from 1635. The baptisms of Edward's children are there. He probably lived at Higg Hill Farm and certainly owned another farm called Ravensleach in Ollersett and later bought Green Head farm in Bugsworth.
Mary Buckley was NOT the wife of John of Goytside.
She was the wife of John, son of William of Green Head farm.
I can't find a marriage for John and Mary of Goytside in Glossop or Hayfield so it may be in the other parishes I mentioned.
Yes I have done a lot of research into this family. I will try to answer any other questions as I am sure you will think of some more.
Meadowgate

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

rci124 — 2010-01-30 02:10:33Z

What a wonderful amount of information you have provided. I thank you for your time and effort for all of your research you have done. I am sure your efforts will help many of u

Do you think this is the Edward you have listed?
29 Jan 1697-8 Edward Drinkwater, of Chappel Frith, co. Derby, Cloathworker, and Ann Wild, of Disley, Parish of Stockport, co. Chester, Spinster. B
Marriage Licences Granted within the Dincese of Chester.
Cheshire: - Marriage Licences Granted Within The Archdeaconry of Cheshire, 1691-1700
This information came a Cheshire, England, Extracted Parish Records about Edward Drinkwater Ann Wild

John and Mary lived at Goytside Farm in Bugsworth. Do you think Mary’s last could be Buckley?

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2010-01-25 14:17:04Z

Dear Mike,
I have been researching the Drinkwater Family, mainly using the records at Derbyshire Record Office in Matlock.
I have been trying to find the family of John Drinkwater who lived at Mainstone Farm, Chinley, Derbyshire. I cannot trace him after the 1841 census in England although his elder children were still there.
Through your message I can see that he took Mary and the younger children to America.
I have gone back to look at my huge collection of notes and after a visit to Matlock last week feel very confident that I can match him to his parents and ancestors.

Edward Drinkwater had four sons;
William who is my ancestor,
James whose children all died in infancy, Thomas who lived at Gow Hole Farm, who is the ancestor of another researcher already in contact with you and John who is the grandfather of the John who emigrated.
John and Mary lived at Goytside Farm in Bugsworth. They were tenants of Lord Cavendish.
I have not yet found a marriage record for them so cannot tell you Mary's family name.
John died in 1784. I have seen a copy of his will which was very simple. He mentions his sons Henry and William and his daughters Mary Shirt and Ellen Pearson. He also mentions his gran/god /daughters Mary Drinkwater and Nancy Hurst.
We now know the names of his children.
I think that his son Henry is the father of John of Mainstone.
Henry married Betty Handford on Jan 13 1785 in Glossop Parish Church.
Their children were baptised in Hayfield Parish Church:
Betty 1790, JOHN 1792, Mary 1794 and Hannah in 1799.
John and Mary called their first son Henry James. The Drinkwaters followed the traditional naming pattern for generations so this also indicates that his paternal grandfather was Henry.
I hope this answers some of your questions,
Meadowgate

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2010-01-25 10:39:10Z

Dear Mike,
I have some information for you about John Drinkwater who once lived at Mainstone Farm, Chinley, Derbyshire, England.
I have been researching the Drinkwater families of this area and have, until this week been unable to link this John with his parents. He is undoubtbly one of this extended family. He disappeared from the records after the 1841 census although the two older children can be found.
Thanks to you I now know that he went to America.
I thought I had found his parents but realized that I had found his grandparents who were also a John and Mary.
John and Mary lived at Goyt Side Farm in Bugsworh. They were tenants of Lord Cavendish.
John died in 1784. I have seen a copy of his will where he mentions his children so we can be sure of their names.
They were:
Henry, William, Mary Shirt, and Ellen Pearson. Also mentioned are grand./d or god/daughters Mary Drinkwater and Nancy Hurst.
So far I have not been able to find a marriage for John and Mary so I don't know who she was.
I think that their son Henry is the father of John who emigrated.
Henry married Betty Handford on January 13 in Glossop Parish Church.
I went to look up the parish registers last week and found the baptisms at Hayfield for their children;
Betty 1780, JOHN 1792, Mary 1794 and Hannah 1799.
I hope this will answer some of your questions.
Meadowgate

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

tevans16 — 2010-01-24 00:31:15Z

I very much look forward to hearing from you!

From your message to Mike above, it looks like you are proposing that Thomas Drinkwater of Gowhole Farm was grandfather to the Thomas who married Elizabeth Shirt because from what I can see, the latter's parents were John and Sarah (nee Marriott) Drinkwater.

Hopefully you still have the same email address?

Re: Derbyshire Origins - Thomas Drinkwater

meadowgate — 2010-01-18 09:53:04Z

Hello,
Yes, I think we have been in touch by e-mail and I will contact you again.
I know I did promise to send info but have not yet done so!
I spent an intensive time sorting out the many families descended from William Drinkwater who lived at Green Head Farm, Bugsworth. I made great progress with this research which I have written as a word doc.
I intended to continue with the line from Thomas of Gow Hole but had come to the end of my travelling to Matlock during the mid-winter.!(08/09)
Since then I have been involved with other families and am trying to write up research.
I just happened to see the posts about the Drinkwaters and felt I was holding info I could share.
I am now looking for a train timetable for Derbyshire.
Meadowgate