Duryee - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Losee Remsen

wrhummel99 — 2011-10-20 00:59:18Z

The Losee in the 1930 census is married to Anna M (Remsen) (my grandmother's sister). The child, known as "Sonny" to our family recently passed away. I only met him once.

1930 United States Federal Census

Name:Anna M Losse
Home in 1930:Hempstead, Nassau, New York

Age:20
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1910
Relation to Head of House:Wife
Spouse's Name:Edward H Losse
Race:White
Household Members:NameAge
Edward H Losse 21
Anna M Losse 20
Harry R Losse 1

From social security death index:
Harry was born on June 6, 1929 and passed away on Saturday, March 12, 2011. He was a resident of Bellmore, New York.

Lauren

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

stashapalmer — 2011-10-19 16:58:25Z

I just got more Remsen information from relatives. But not the connection to Daniel. These are old files. Can we please talk offline. Abraham and Maretje Remsen 1730 and 1732
stashapalmer@gmail.com

I am leaving Friday, and might be hard to get in touch. It will be a shame to know that you have some Losee that might potentially help me since that is the primary reason I am going to NY. I hope we can get in touch. One way or another I will solve this land info and find the connection, just wish it wasnt so hard and expensive!
xo

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

stashapalmer — 2011-10-19 04:37:04Z

Richard:

Did you publish? Cant wait to see where you are at with everything.

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

stashapalmer — 2011-10-19 03:16:38Z

I would love to get info before I leave for NY on Friday. Anything else would be helpful. I have contacted our Williamsons and McCouns and they say that they are stumped as well, that we have other Remsen in our mutual lines. So, Remsen -- yes -- we have about 20 of them going way back. They tie into the Bedells - McCoun and VanDine lines somehow; and I will try to link them. We also have some more Duryea, will get a list going when I hear from you all.

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

stashapalmer — 2011-10-18 22:19:16Z

This is one of the documents about the land that does not makes sense to me. It has the Thomas Pool family estate noted and Eliza Pool and Margaretta Remsen. There were also lawsuits over water rights and trains.
Wondering if any of you know anything about this? I can send a bit more.

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

stashapalmer — 2011-10-18 21:20:18Z

Lauren and Bill:

My family is the Stephen Losee (B: 1794) and Hannah Powell family from Hempstead, Long Island. I have his brothers, and all of his children accounted for, its taken me a very long time to get to this point. I cracked the case last week (after a 12 year search). I have thorough documentation from the usual sources, including land records and surrogates court. I have not posted much of my documentation on the web because I can see what happens...

I have asked our dear friend Alan for help over the last 6 years and sent him anything that I find on Duryea. I plan to continue doing that as I make my way into NY and Hempstead next week for the first time in my life. My express goal is to get the remaining information in the surrogates court and the transfer of lands information between the Taylor, Dubois, Van Dusen... and more. Alan has taught me to be very precise and specific, no hunches in my work.
I really would like to connect the other Losee in Hempstead and Brooklyn to my Losee line, I have a lot of other Losee research, it just needs to be connected now.
My Van Dusen family is directly linked to the great Van Deursen book...

I know our family is related to Remsen, through Margaret Remsen who married into the Losee family. However, it is all still fuzzy, which is why I sent you the documentation. That land was fought over for well over 20 years through the Poole family and Remsen family. And it eventually ended up in mine. That paper trail has been very helpful in connecting the dots. The sad thing is that the land continues to be an issue in the Losee family as well. Finally it was all sold off in 1891.
Please help me with information. I will not be able to get back to NY for a long time, and really need some more details to makes sure I am leaving no stone unturned. I will also supply you with anything you need.
Thanks so much,
Anastasia (stashapalmer)

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

wrhummel99 — 2011-10-18 19:11:00Z

Thanks
we would be happy to purchase Duryea info, collate collaborate as appropriate with you.

we will send Losee info ASAP

Best
Lauren and Bill

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

ramccool — 2011-10-18 19:04:45Z

Dear Hummels,

Stasha is a past collaborator of Duryea/Duryee family research. Have not seen any publishing on the www without proper citations.

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

wrhummel99 — 2011-10-18 18:57:05Z

Looking forward to dusting off my notes and reconnecting.

Do you know stashapalmer's connection to the RemsenS?

What is the status of the Duryea book?

Lauren and Bill Hummel

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

ramccool — 2011-10-18 17:53:04Z

Thanks for the reply! I am the Richard McCool with whom you have been in touch over these past years.

Will appreciate having the input of your since recent research....

Richard

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

wrhummel99 — 2011-10-18 17:44:14Z

Hi
I think your post got cut off. What is your connection to the Remsen and Losee families?

Thanks
Lauren and Bill

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

stashapalmer — 2011-10-18 16:48:08Z

Margaretta P Remsen and Daniel D. Remsen left her land to Margaret P. Losee and Ira Losee....

Plot A- All that lot, piece or parce of land with the building thereon… in the 11th ward (description of exact land here). The same premises conveyed to Ira Losee deceased by deed dated February 26, 1867 acknoledged February 28, 1867, recorded in the office of the Registor in Kings County 743 of Conveyances paro 547, (S. Elliot Place extra land). March 1 1867, also all that certain lot piece and parcel of land being in the 9th Ward of Brooklyn county of Kings on Atlantic Avenue, Flatbush Ave… Two Atlantic Avenue lots being the same premises conveyed to Margaret Losee deceased by Margaretta P. Remsen and Daniel D. Remsen by deeds dated July 1, 1875, recorded July 30 1875 in the office of Register of Kings County in liber 1211 of Converyandces pages 265 to 272.
In the 22nd ward Dean Street beween the Fourth and Fifth Ave. Being the same two lots conveyed to Margaret P. Losee deceased wife of Ira Losee deceased by dead dated July 1 1876 recorded July 30th 1875 in the office of Register of Kings in Liber 1211 of Conveyonces page 272 to 277 dated may 25 1891.

The same two lots conveyed to Margaret P. Losee deceased wife of Ira Losee deceased, by deed dated July 1, 1875, recorded July 30 th, 1876 in office of Register of Kings county in liber 1.211 of conveyances page 272 to 277 dated may 25, 1891.
(Atlantic Ave, and South Elliot Place)

Green-Wood Cemetery:

REMSEN MARGARET P 1876-09-14 3643 79
REMSEN MARGARETTA P 1937-03-20 3643 79
REMSEN FRANK 1856-12-27 3643 79
REMSEN CHD OF DANL D 1850-03-18 3643 79
REMSEN CHILD OF DANL. D. 1850-03-18 3643 79
REMSEN DELIA B 1855-01-31 3643 79

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

wrhummel99 — 2011-10-18 13:42:05Z

Hi
We are Bill and Lauren Hummel (brother and sister)who are Remsen descendants. I hope your post results in us reconnecting with Richard McCool - we were just talking about him this weekend.

I know a small amount the Losee family, and will need to review my notes before replying in any detail. I can check with my Remsen cousin from Freeport who I just saw this weekend. I will post again soon.

What is your connection to the Remsen family?

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

stashapalmer — 2011-10-17 23:31:30Z

Richard:

Do you know anything about the land dispute in Brooklyn between the Poole family, Remsen family and Losee family?

The land was located on South Elliot Place and a few other addresses. The reason I ask is because you replied to this link with Remsen. Thanks,and I hope you are well.
Anastasia

Maria Polly Duryee

karen_21 — 2010-10-03 22:13:45Z

Hi I am looking for information on Maria/e Polly Duryea/e married to John W Hall. They lived in Charleston, Montgomery county, NY. Specifically I am hoping to find the marriage date and information on their children. I have found rreferences to them on online family trees that list their youngest three children, but per John's will there were more. I am wondering if Marie is a second wife or if she may be mother to all his children. Any information would be appreciated.

William Duryee

kathyroberts48 — 2008-06-10 14:30:11Z

I am searching for the death date of William Duryee Born abt 1854 in New York. He is the son of Chauncey Duryee and Perlina Pierce. In 1860 they lived in Castle, Wyoming, New York, this may be where he was born. He was married to Lizzie Morris.His children were Alice E. Married Newton case, and Charles S. born 1875 in Geneso, New York he Married Estella Hanna. In 1891 Lizzie married George Cranston. I found him last in 1883 living in Rochester. Thanks

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

2006-12-01 23:54:42Z

It seems as though your grandfather may have been my mother's uncle. Please review my prior posting and let me know what you think.

Sophia Duryee b ca 1820 m Lewis Rollow

2006-08-19 21:06:55Z

Looking for information on Sophia Duryee b ca 1820, Canada, m. Lewis Rollow also b. Canada. Found in 1850, Nunda, Livingston Co., New York with four children: Lewis, Jr; Francis; Adeline and Charles. Newspaper notice in Bloomfield, Walworth Co., Wisconsin gives her death date as 23 Jan 1899. By then her surname was Darling. What happened to Lewis Rollow and who was her 2nd husband?

Martha Fehr mhfehr@mchsi.com

Wm P Southworth (wife a Duryee) grave - Leicester (Cemetery), Livingston Co., NY

Judy0044 — 2006-06-14 16:26:01Z

I have no known connection but took a photo of a monument while visiting the area cemetery in upstate NY last week taking other photos. The photo shows William P. Southworth 1840-1896; (wife - looks like Julia) M. Duryee 1844-1936; and Dora P. 1873-1884 - perhaps 1873 could be 1879. Hope this assists someone.

Re: Wm P Southworth (wife a Duryee) grave - Leicester (Cemetery), Livingston Co., NY

Judy0044 — 2006-06-14 16:26:01Z

Richard: Glad the info was helpful. My father b. 1887 was a native of Leicester when it was called Moscow or Moscow Landing. Often I'll find family members who have left the area for Rochester or Buffalo in later years (or the Mid Western states). However many remained all their lives.

Re: George / Edward Duryee-added info

2006-04-24 05:56:47Z

Dear Duryee Board Readers,

Please note that this conversation has gone private and continues as of the date of this posting.

If you have an interest in the genealogy/family history engendered in that off-line conversation, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Yours in kinship,

Richard

Re: George / Edward Duryee-added info

mmriley159 — 2006-03-20 02:58:38Z

I believe that George is the father, lived in Rahway, NJ in 1870, listed as a physician with son Edward and wife Mary. Edward went on to be the lead cement maker at the Theodore Roosevelt dam in Arizonia, circa 1903-1911.

George / Edward Duryee

mmriley159 — 2006-03-19 23:59:53Z

Greetings All,
I am looking for a Dr. George or Dr. Edward Duryee, who would have lived in Montezuma, NY (Cayuga Co) in 1893. Most likely they were chemists, not people doctors.
Both names are associated with a cement plant in Montezuma, and I have a newspaper article that states that Dr. Edward Duryee's father was sick in Orange, NY in 1893. Other sites might be Toledo Ohio in 1880 and Colton, California after 1900.
This is not my family. I am a town historian researching a cement plant that was built along the Erie Canal. I will be looking into deeds and other local items and would be happy to exchange data with any Duryee researchers.

Re: Duryea/Thorne

Twilightmist_1 — 2005-12-22 01:05:36Z

Re: Duryea/Thorne

Twilightmist_1 — 2005-12-22 01:05:36Z

Hi Richard,
Your scenario RE James Thorn and the Robbins family is a good one, and one I never would have thought of...When it comes to genealogy, I'm pretty "green," but I did do some searching at the Shampubco site, that you reccomended...I searched "wills," under Oneida county and a few other NY counties, but found no Thorns or Robbins listed that matched.--I found a James Thorn listed in Ridgeway, Orleans 1824-from Genesee 1825,-- but since this was not in Oneida county and was from an earlier period, it didn't look (to me) like there was a connection.

I recently found a James H. Thorne listed in the 1920's US Census, born in Wis., (abt.1858) living in South Dakota (in 1920).--It occured to me that this James H. could have been the son (nephew or grandson) of the James H Thorne who had purchased the acreage in Greenbay, Wis. in 1848.--(but then that would be another possible scenario).

Since my g-grandfather James was born in Bridgewater, NY, it may not be likely that he is the James, son of Leonard and Hannah Thorne. --But then I still wonder why that James (born abt.1843) appears to have left home by 1860 and never shows up in any of the many searches I've done, including *all* the US Census for the years 1860-1930.

I thought I might try to send for my g-grandfather James' birth certificate, and/or his death cetificate, but first I would need to find out the year that he died.--I'm fairly certain he died in Fresno, CA, and I know that he was still alive in 1920.--What would you advise regarding the aquiring of these vital records?

Thanks again for all your help,
Tiana

Re: Duryea/Thorne

2005-10-05 17:36:48Z

Dear Tiana,

Sorry for the delay in making an answer...

As a former resident of Fresno, California, a hot and largely uninspiring place, I can only wonder why anyone--including myself--might wander over to that place ; - )

Jokes aside, I cannot but repeat that you really must get those wills that I have suggested will resolve the issues.

Please consider accessing Sampubco.com for some sign of your ancestors' probate. I am often at odds with the "Sam" of Sampubco.com over his interpretations of the many, many wills he has gathered; still, his site is a great resource for available Surrogate presentations --meaning the originals that you will be able to interpret for yourself.

If I can help guide your further in this, please contact me privately. I do not have anything "secret" to offer, but think that we might better help one another to better define your ancestry off-List.

Yours,

Richard

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-10-05 17:09:31Z

Dear Jackie,

Please note that my previous reply, just posted, should have referred you to

Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com

Sorry for the inadvertent misdirection.

Richard

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-10-05 17:05:33Z

Dear Jackie,

I dearly wish that I might be of more help in your research, but cannot say more than I have already said.

I would like to suggest that you seriously consider subscibing to

New-Netherland-L@rootsweb.com

or

Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com

(assuming you have not yet done so)

to post this same (initial) query. Populated by several scholars who specialize in those ancient New Netherland families, you are apt to find better help than your humble servant can presently offer. (Please do not neglect the rootsweb archives for these Lists to be sure that the topic/families have not already been discussed and explored.)

Also, please register at www.genealogy.com's message boards for the Bussing and the Ryer families to take advantage of the expertise available there for your particular family's history and genealogy. On the opening page, click on the "community" button, then message boards.

I would be grateful to have your updates as you progress in your search, either here or privately at duryeakin@yahoo.com.

Sincerely,

Richard

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-09-23 19:42:55Z

Thanks so much for your response. If you have any notes at all on the Ryer family, I would love to see them. I have photos of the cemetery at Woodlawn of the Samuel Ryer Plot and also of John Bussing's Plot, father of Jane Bussing Ryer. We have traced the Bussing /Briggs (as Mrs. Bussing was a Briggs) back to the Mayflower and I am pretty sure the Bussing's go back to Arent Bussing, just don't have the actual proof.
I belong to ancestry.com and have seen some of the newspaper articles where Jane Ryer protested her father's will in 1870. The Ryer family is my brick wall. Samuel's father was John born in 1766 and died in 1850. He was married to Ellen (Eleanor,) Myers who I also have not been able to trace. I have a letter stating the family descends from Sebastian Van Kortrijk and his grandson Ryer Michelson (which is spelled several different ways) . Just having problems verifying the middle. John's father is suppost to be Hendrick Ryer, they lived at Fordham Manor before West Farms. So as I say, if you have any notes that might send me in the right direction, please contact me. Thanks Jackie Ryer Parr

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-09-23 16:14:08Z

Dear Jackie,

All I can tell you at this point is that Susan Ryer, born 7 July 1843, was the daughter of Samuel Ryer and Jane Bussing.

I deeply regret to say that my notes on the Ryer family are without citation and need to be 'recaptured' from among available resources.

This Duryea-Ryer couple lived in Westchester County , New York (West Farms) and I would expect that her Bussing ancestry derives from the well-known family of that area, especially Harlem.

Please consider consulting James Riker's work on the history of Harlem for possible additional information on your roots.

I will be glad to help you further, if I can, should you not be able to use that which I am providing above. This would include census records on your Elijah Ryer or other resources I might be able to access on-line.

Again, my apoplogies for not being able to be more specific on the Ryer ancestry. I would be exceedingly grateful to have the benefit of your research to better define this family group.

Yours,

Richard

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-09-23 02:59:52Z

Do you have any info on a Charles Duryea, Born 1841 married to a Susan Ryer, B. 1843 in New York. I am trying to track down info on the Ryer side as i am a desc of Susan's brother Elijah. Thank you. Jackie Ryer Parr

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

2005-06-26 15:20:38Z

Dear John,

I would be very interested to talk with you about your family. Shall I write you privately?

Richard

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

JVetter8447 — 2005-06-24 00:52:58Z

My Grandfather was Hiram Wright Remsen, b. 25 Sept. 1877, d. 14 Feb 1966. He was married to Ida Amanda Way. I have much family history if you are intrested.

John

Re: Duryea/Thorne

2005-06-21 17:23:59Z

Duryea/Thorne

2005-06-13 16:18:00Z

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-06-11 23:06:40Z

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

2005-06-11 13:38:54Z

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

2005-06-09 18:33:54Z

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

2005-06-09 16:46:13Z

Dear Lauren,

I hope you will forgive my mental lapse, but can you remind me of our conversations on this? Somehow this has gotten lost to me.

Abject apologies,

Richard

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-06-09 16:40:04Z

Re: Remsen-Thorne Remsen-Rhodes connection

2005-06-08 16:06:37Z

Thanks for your reply and the info about your Remsen family. If I find anything that I feel would be of interest to you, I will post it here on this board.

Tiana

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-06-08 04:52:49Z

Thanks Richard,
I am new at this, --it's only been a little over a month since I began searching for info about my ancesters (via Ancestry.com). I have done searches until I'm blue in the face it seems, trying to find the parents or siblings (etc.) of my g grandfather, James H Thorne (and others)...The only possible match I have been able to find, for the parents of James, is Hannah Remsen and Leonard Thorne...According to my searches, there were very few James Thornes born in, or around, 1844, and of the few I was able to find, only Leonard and Hannah Thorne were *both* born in NY.--Which matches the info about my James H Thorne (taken from the 1920s Fresno, CA, US Census)...Also I remember being told, that my grandfather had a little bit of Hollandish Dutch ancestry, on the Thorne side of his family.

My grandfather, Frank A Thorne Sr., was born in Philadelphia,PA, in 1882... I was told that both of my grandparents worked in Vaudeville from the time they were young (I'm guessing my grandfather worked with his father James).--My grandparents married in 1899 (while in their teens) and continued working in Vaudeville, traveling all over the US and Europe... According to a newspaper article,(written about my grandmother, Lizette Thorne),-- my grandparents were playing the old Levey Circuit when the show closed in Handford, and that was when they came to Fresno, CA (in abt.1906).-- They worked at the Empire Theater in Fresno for 2 years after that. My grandparents went on to make silent films in Santa Barbara, at Flying A Studios, and other studios in the Los Angeles and Hollywood area, while James Thorne remained in Fresno.

I do hope to hear from you again, --or from anyone else who may have info that could help me in my search for my Thorne ancesters.

Tiana

Re: Remsen-Rhodes

2005-06-06 22:45:36Z

Richard

Got a post from you just now and hoped to call your attention to my curiosity about a prior posting of yours re: John Remsen-Mary Rhodes. Do you know anything about them?

Re: Remsen-Thorne Remsen-Rhodes connection

2005-06-06 22:38:44Z

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-06-06 19:35:35Z

Dear Tiana,

While I cannot help you in the immediate, I think we might work together to discover your ancestry.

This will take time and interaction between us and this message board.

Please keep posting here as you "work" on this ancestry as I am sure we will be able to solve the question.

As you have no doubt ascertined, more than one Duryea dscendant became an actor.

I expect, given the information you have offered, that this family originated in Orange County or Dutchess County, New York.

The Thornes were old of Long Island, New York (Quakers), as were the Duryeas, and I think your families may have come together in the Orange County area. The interactions among the Remsen and Duryea families were rife and often only newly discovered in modern research. Thus, every tidbit you may be able to offer will likely advance your research.

Yours,

Richard

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

twilightmist1 — 2005-06-01 06:37:56Z

I have just begun to trace my Thorne ancestry...My g grandfather was James Henry Thorne, b abt. 1844 in Bridgewater (Oneida county) NY...I recently found a Leonard Thorne (in One World Tree) who could possibly be my great-grandfather,-- but I need to find out more info before I can be certain...(According to what I found in One World Tree),--Leonard Thorne married a Hannah Remsen and they had 8 children.--Their 4th child was a James Thorne, b abt.1843.--It says that James was born in NY, but it doesn't say where in NY.

My g grandfather, James H. Thorne, married Bertha Anna (Bonnie) Meyer and they had 2 sons,-- Francis (Frank) Author Thorne Sr. (my grandfather) and Mark S. Thorne (my g uncle)...My James Thorne lived in Fresno,CA during his retirement years,--he is listed in both the 1910 and 1920 US census as an actor.-- My grandparents, Frank and Lizette Thorne were both actors,--stage, and later silent films,-- my grandfather, Frank, was also a director and scenic artist.-- They all worked together in Fresno (Vaudeville) during the early 1900s...My grandfather bought his father, James, a tobacco shop in Fresno, CA, after he retired from acting.

I am hoping to find out more information about the Thorne and/ or Remsen families listed in the Duryea tree,-- I am very interested in learning more about Leonard Thorne and Hannah (Remsen) Thorne, or James Thorne's siblings.

You can email me at: twilight-mist @peoplepc.com

Tiana Sanders

Re: Duryea/Duryee Genealogy, 2004

2005-04-11 16:29:36Z

John Duryee m. 10 Sep 1808 First Presbyterian Church, Cranbury, Middlesex, NJ Sally Griggs

DaveRichardson62 — 2005-01-10 15:58:34Z

Seeking parents/siblings of both John Duryee and Sally Griggs married 10 Sep 1808 First Presbyterian Church, Cranbury, Middlesex, New Jersey

Re: John Duryee m. 10 Sep 1808 First Presbyterian Church, Cranbury, Middlesex, NJ Sally Griggs

DaveRichardson62 — 2005-01-10 15:58:34Z

Thank you for responding. The IGI has this marriage Batch # 7317121, sheet 07, Source Call # 0822869. These are the records of the First Presbyterian Church, Cranbury, Middlesex, New Jersey. I have not been able to find any other records of this family, parents, siblings, or children.

Re: Duryee

2004-07-30 17:06:22Z

Dear Amber,

Please consider writing me privately at duryeakin@yahoo.com.

Otherwise, my mccool.13@osu.edu addy is always available.

Please note that I respect the privacy issues anyone may have, but hope always that ongoing conversations remain on "the lists" so that others may benefit. Please also note that I tend to "hang out" at the GenForums, as in

www.genforum.com

One reason is that they have, so far, not been silly enough to create both a Duryee and a Duryea message board. These two spellings are so often interchangeable in the records that I fear some folks don't know to look at both, devoted to what is largely the same family, on the ancestry.com boards.

Meanwhile, please do contact me in whichever way you are most comfortable,

Richard