Thanks! Now I see the Ancestry Family Tree
at
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/306907/person/-2094901702?ssr...=

"Our Children's Ancestors" by
SDeWolfeBurns, upstate NY
for
Ira Edward Livingston
Birth 23 Feb 1889 in New York
Death 13 Dec 1972 in Venture, California
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Have you seen this info about a John Van Gelder,
a Mohican Indian?
at
Van Gelder Genforum
http://genforum.genealogy.com/vangelder/messages/19.html

RE: ..."John Van Gelder, a Mohican Indian who lived in the Town of Egremont, Berkshire County, with his German wife and her brothers and their families in the first half of the 1700s."

--Nancy Elder Petersen
Host, ELDER DNA project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder