Elford - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: george henly elford

samreichle — 2009-09-17 00:58:05Z

Thanks Liz, yes I have, it's all his pesky brother and sisters that i am having trouble with, don't you hate it when people just disappear.

sam

Re: george henly elford

lizwinney — 2009-09-16 21:55:49Z

Hi Sam,

Just seen on ancestry that George Henley Elford married Margaret Burton on 13 Feb 1825 at St Pancras, if you haven't already got that - the name stuck in my memory!

Liz

Re: george henly elford

samreichle — 2009-08-23 11:21:07Z

Hi Liz,

Thanks for replying, I have all ready got most of that info,
slowly I am getting more and managing to get a better picture.

Thanks again Sam

Re: george henly elford

samreichle — 2009-08-23 11:18:48Z

Hi Karen,
Sorry only just got your reply, I am also a direct descendant of George Henly Elford, his Grandaughter Fanny Andrews married Henry Daniel Tasker, who is my 2 x great Grandfather,I have found many Taskers back to 1745 In Buckinghamshire, but have not had much luck with the Elford's. I am currently working on Margaret Burton (George's wife) and her family. So which one of Henry's son's are you from, mine is Percy.

Sam

Re: george henly elford

lizwinney — 2009-07-02 13:52:24Z

Hi Sam, I don't know why but your message (although dated 2007) seems only just to have been received on Ancestry!
Briefly, George & Margaret ELFORD's dau Frances married George How ANDREWS Dec Qtr 1845 St Pancras. Their dau Fanny Elizabeth ANDREWS (bn 1849) seems to have lived with her grandparents from age 11 to 21. In 1871, Margaret's aged 80 and Fanny 21 living at Ashford, Kent. George had died aged 84 at Hendon 1867.
Fanny married Henry Daniel TASKER at Hendon Sep Qtr 1871, and in 1881 he's a farmer with her and four children.
Hope this helps. Liz Winney

Re: george henly elford

dwebster193 — 2009-06-27 09:48:44Z

hello there, my mother is a descendant of george henly elford through henry tasker. There is a transcription error, the daughter was frances (fanny) whose daughter was also frances. So you must be some sort of relative; how far did you get with the famliy tree?
cheers,
karen webster

Re: JOHN ELFORD AND SABINA SELMES

PadfieldFT — 2009-05-01 12:13:12Z

I to am descended from John & Sabina via their daughter Maria (c1821-1878) and Charles Pointing. Charles & Maria married in Radstock in 1842(On the marriage cert a witness John Elford (could possibly be either Maria's father or brother)signed with an X.

When Charles died in 1850, the Informant on the death cert was Charles' mother-in-law, Sabina Elford. On the 1851 census Maria and her children are living next door to Sabina and her daughter Hestor and William Dunford in Westfield. Both Maria and Sabina are classed as "paupers"

Colleen

Re: JOHN ELFORD AND SABINA SELMES

lizwinney — 2009-03-31 20:00:01Z

Hi, I'm also related to this family. They had two sons John & Stephen and 3 daughters, Maria, Patience and Hester.I have extensive records for this family if you would like it.

Re: JOHN ELFORD AND SABINA SELMES

lizwinney — 2009-03-31 19:57:30Z

Hi, I am also related to this family as they are my 4x great grandparents. John & Sabina moved down to the Radstock area of Somerset after they married at Mountfield in 1816 and I think their eldest son John was born at Vine Hall, Sussex although I cannot find a baptism for him.
John & Sabina's son Stephen was my 3 g.grandfather and was a coal miner. John was a blacksmith. I often wonder what the Somerset villagers thought when John brought a "foreign" bride home! Sabina outlived her husband and lived to her eighties. Do you know what happened to her dau. Louise?

Re: JOHN ELFORD AND SABINA SELMES

morpanlan — 2009-03-31 08:09:22Z

You may have this already but Sabina Selmes was baptised at Whatlington, Sussex on 1 February 1793, daughter of Simon and Sarah (sometimes called Sal, maiden name Aylward). Sabina had a daughter Louisa Jane Selmes baptised at Mountfield, Sussex on 5 April 1812.

I am related to this family through Simon's brother Stephen Selmes who was my 5 x great grandfather.

JOHN ELFORD AND SABINA SELMES

polskagirl — 2009-03-31 01:33:55Z

JOHN ELFORD BORN c.1779 MARRIED SABINA SELMES BORN c.1793.
AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY HAD 3 DAUGHTERS TOGETHER.
MARIA ELFORD M.CHARLES POINTING
HESTER/HESTOR MARRIED WILLIAM DUNFORD MY 2XGREAT GRANDPARENTS
THERE WAS ALSO PATIENCE ELFORD BORN c1828.
IN 1851 CENSUS WILLIAM DUNFORD WAS LODGING IN WESTFIELD NR.RADSTOCK SOMERSET WITH SABINA AND HER MOTHER AFTER JOHN ELFORD DIED.
I ALSO HAVE THOMAS ELFORD c.1755 AND HESTOR COTTLE WERE THESE JOHN'S PARENTS?
ALSO SABINA SELMES WAS ORIGINALLY FROM EAST SUSSEX BUT BELIEVE SHE HAD A DAUGHTER BEFORE MARRIAGE LOUISE BORNc.1812 NO IDEA WHAT BECAME OF HER.

Re: just starting love some help

lizwinney — 2009-03-26 21:15:58Z

Hi Laura,
really sorry not to have replied before now,just seen your post. Did you know that Isaac was married twice? What else did you want to know - and what country are you in
please so that I can direct you to the right records.
See my web profile on elford@one-name.org
Liz

Re: just starting love some help

cmlister2 — 2009-02-27 14:47:29Z

We share an 7x great Grandfather. John Elford born 1658 to 1703. My line goes down through their son Edward's line. Your's I think goes down their son Isaac's line (1703 to 1793)to your 5x great Isaac (1734 to 1818) I got most of my info from "lizedwards1950" through the Ancestry site. Her ancestors were also Elfords. All the best with your searching, CML

just starting love some help

lauraelford — 2009-02-26 00:36:34Z

I have just started researching the elford geneology. I have traced back that Issac Elford b abt 1734 married to Jane Hendy from cornwall england was my husbands great times 5 grandfather. (I think that's enough greats) I would love some tips and help finding out more information. I am really interested in the stories about the family as well as the lineage.
thanks laura

Re: Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

Jamben6 — 2009-02-16 21:36:08Z

Hi Liz,

Thank you again! I agree it looks like there is not much else we can do with Jonathan. One Ancestry public member tree has him as a son of William and Sarah but that was probably guesswork as well.

The one name study sounds interesting. I don't have much I can contribute from Melbury Osmond as there were no other Elfords in the records apart from my Mary Elford and son Samuel Elford/Childs. Interesting as the Childs family seem a lot more spread out in other parishes. I will have a look at your web page. I think we are too far removed from the Elfords to do the DNA study but it sounds fascinating! I descend from Mary Elfords son Samuel, as you know, and his daughter Judith who married Benjamin Bartlett and had one child George in 1827 (Benjamin died and Judith remarried to James Loader and the family migrated to South Australia). George Bartlett is my mum's G-G-Grandfather.
I have contact with another Elford descendant in the UK - from Samuel Elford/Childs' son Solomon, who may have an interest so I shall pass it on to him.
So the Elford line was finished way back in my tree. I'd like to learn more about them though.

Thanks again for your very kind help.

Kelly :)

Re: Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

lizwinney — 2009-02-16 18:59:43Z

Hi Kelly,
I've only just realised you are in South Australia! I think we've got as far as we can with your Jonathan with the records I have available but if I come across anything else, I'll try to let me know.
Meanwhile, as I'm doing a One-Name Study of the Elford surname worldwide, I would be very grateful for any data you have on any Elfords at Melbury Osmund for my records - the Dorset OPC site is not online at the moment.

The churches at Yetminster & Chetnole etc are on the web via Genuki - Dorset pages and if you are interested, have a look at my profile page on the Guild of One-Name Studies at the history of the Elford name - quite interesting (but I am biased of course!)at www.one-name.org/profile/elford. You can always email me via elford@one-name.org which might get to me quicker than going through Ancestry.

I'm also doing an Elford DNA study (males only) so if you know anybody who might be interested, please let me know.

All the best, Liz Winney

Re: Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

Jamben6 — 2009-02-15 22:37:27Z

Hello Liz,

Once again thank you very much, you have been so helpful. I found the same entry for Jonathan in the IGI with no parents but had hoped it was an error by the transcriber, sadly not! It would make sense for him to be a son of Jonathan and Lydia as you say, but impossible to be sure. There were several earlier Jonathans as well, one born 1696 and one 1699 both to Jonathan. Other children to Jonathan born between 1698-1702 I assumed to be of Jonathan and Lydia but I got that wrong, so perhaps siblings of Jonathan senior (he perhaps being the one born 1699?)? Anyway, some things are just a mystery!

Pity about lazy vicars and even worse those that ripped out pages for other uses or destroyed whole registers entirely!

Thanks again and kindest regards,

Kelly.

Re: Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

lizwinney — 2009-02-15 22:21:02Z

Hi Kelly,

Glad to be able to help, Jonathan looks a bit tricky. In the PR's for Yetminster/Chetnole, the only Jonathan named of the right kind of age is in 1725 to (would you believe it!) Elford and his wife!!! There were 4 or 5 Elford couples having children in the 1713 to 1733's so identification as to Jonathan's parents is difficult if not impossible, but I am of the opinion that it would be more likely to be Jonathan Snr & Lydia (Foy)if anybody, just because of the name link. Jonathan Snr of Melbury Bubb married Lydia Foy at Somerton Oct 03 1716 and had Lydia 1717, Foy 1718 & Jonathan (?) in 1725 if I'm correct, but you might need to see other parish records like Land tax or tenants records/Wills to confirm this.
The earliest name Jonathan goes back to 1694 at Chetnole when his dau Elizabeth was born according to the PR's.
Sorry I can't help more on this but with lazy vicars like that one, one can only surmise.

Liz

Re: Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

Jamben6 — 2009-02-12 04:24:28Z

Hi Liz,

Thank you so much for the trouble you have gone to, much appreciated! I have only access to the Melbury Osmond parish records online (on the Dorset OPC) and the IGI on FamilySearch, so had not been able to get records for Chetnole or Yetminster other than what is in the IGI. The info helps me a lot, thank you.
Have you any idea about Jonathan? There seems to be no parents or marriage recorded for him in the IGI, obviously a lot of gaps in these records.

It seems a lot of the Childs in Melbury Osmond were related and I suspect Samuel and David were brothers but have no evidence. David's daughter Elizabeth married my Samuel Elford/Childs so I would say they were cousins.

Thanks again,

Kelly.

Re: Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

Jamben6 — 2009-02-10 21:47:26Z

Hi Liz,

Thank you for your reply. I have Mary Elford born c1744 who married Samuel Childs 28 Jan 1775 in Melbury Osmond. (I believe she died in 1816 aged 72).Children: Samuel Elford alias Childs born 1774; Dinah 1777; Sophia 1780; Edith 1786; Judith 1790; and Solomon 1794. The entry for Samuel and Mary's marriage shows she is from Chetnole.
I have two possibilities for her parents: Mary born c1746 to Thomas and Elizabeth nee Patten who married 1743 in Yetminster; or Mary born c1748 to Jonathan and Mary. Either way this makes Mary aged 46 or 48 for the birth of youngest child Solomon! There is another Mary baptised in Folke in 1754 to Foy and Mary (Foy came from Chetnole). Not sure which way to go. Ancestry trees and IGI show Mary dau of Jonathan as marrying Samuel Childs but I'm really not sure about that.

I have tried mapping out all the Chetnole and Yetminster families to link relatives but this is proving difficult. Until I know where my Mary fits I think I'll leave it!

If you can help that would be much appreciated.

Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

Jamben6 — 2009-02-03 23:30:50Z

I am interested in Elfords from the areas of Chetnole and Yetminster in Dorset. I link in with these families but am finding it difficult to establish the genealogy lines.
Would love to hear from anyone researching Elfords in this part of Dorset.

Re: Elford Family History Group

carolineelford — 2008-06-01 11:50:02Z

Dear Liz,

I would be very interested in joining the Elford Family History Group. I am descended from Oliver Elford born in Writhlington in Somerset. I am currently living in Bristol, Uk.
Caroline Elford

Elford Family History Group

carolineelford — 2008-06-01 11:42:59Z

I would be very interested in joining the Elford Family History Group.
I am decended from Oliver Elford who was born in Writhlington Somerset.
I am currently living in Bristol, uk.
Best wishes,
Caroline Elford

Re: Elford Family History Group

cmlister2 — 2008-09-10 13:04:59Z

Thank you Liz for the interesting info. Which line do you descend from? Coincidently, my son & family live very close to Radstock in the village of Faulkland,& a second cousin called david Elford lives in Trowbridge. there are an awful lot of us! I would be interested to know more about the Elford family group which you have set up. Do you know about the Artist, Victor Elford? He was my mother's first cousin, & his niece has compiled a dossier of most of his work. Margaret

Re: Elford Family History Group

cmlister2 — 2008-09-09 15:14:07Z

Iam researching the "Pyne" family and my mother's maiden name was Elford.She was born in Exeter Devon, & her Father was a Police Inspector there. His parents were James Weeks Elford & Margaret Fice. Laura Elford was the wife of one of my mother's cousins & did a comprehensive Elford family tree dating back to when the Black Prince gave land to an Elford in West Devon (around Yelverton ie:Ye Elford Town)cmlister2

Re: Elford Family History Group

alanelford — 2007-12-30 21:19:45Z

hi
i have just posted a message on this web site that maybe of some use to you
best wishes
alan

Re: Elford Family History Group

alanelford — 2007-12-30 21:18:34Z

hi
i have just posted a message on this web site that maybe of some use to you
best wishes
alan

Re: Elford Family History Group

alanelford — 2007-12-30 21:14:44Z

hi
my name is alan elford and i am from gravesend in kent, we have been compiling our family tree for some time now, and if any of this information helps then we have been blessed with good luck.

Brief summary

our family have been in the Gravesend and cliffe area of kent now for 250 years we have traced our tree back to 1740 when we moved from the wiltshire area, and our understanding is some went to london, kent, midlands, while others have gone to most of the commonwealth, Canada, austrailia, NZ, South africa, etc, some went to Usa and one member as we believe it went to Bolivia, my aged uncles and aunts now all in there 90,s have much documentation going back to 1740 my son is compiling the family tree but he does not have a computer, ( he thinks its the devils telephone) :-) if anyone out there would like to cotact me they can do so direct on sighben@aol.com.
best wishes to all Elfords anywhere in the world
Alan

Re: Elford Family History Group

alanelford — 2007-12-30 21:13:40Z

Re: Elford Family History Group

patshaw14 — 2008-04-05 22:23:07Z

Hi,

I would love to join the Elford Family History Group. My ggg grand mother was Charlotte Elford born in Hazelbury Bryan in Dorset on 14 Jun 1795. She married George Ryall of Sherborne, Dorset, born in 1792. I have not been able to find out anything more about her or her parents and siblings. I realise too that Charlotte may not even be related to the Elford's in your Family Group....hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised and find there is a link and more information. You are welcome to contact me at my home email address below. Many Thanks.

Best Regards
Pat Shaw
USA
pa.sh@juno.com

Re: Elford Family History Group

patshaw14 — 2008-04-05 22:22:50Z

Re: Elford Family History Group

Lorinda725 — 2008-01-02 19:25:09Z

Yes, I would love to join the Elford Family History Group....glad to hear that you are still in existence!!!

Lorinda

Re: Elford Family History Group

chewierat — 2008-03-04 13:24:54Z

Hi Liz,

I would also love to join your Elford Family History group. My great grandfather was Albert (Fred) William Elford b abt 1871. He had siblings Annie Sophia (abt 1874), George Henry (abt 1876) and Mary Lillian (or Lillian abt 1883) Their mother was Mary Jane (abt 1840) I think the siblings were born in Camelford, Cornwall as there is a series of Births in the index that match up. They seem to have come to Australia around 1900. But I can't find any other info, no census records in the UK, no immigration records and no father!

Would appreciate any help you can give:)

Leesa

Re: Elford Family History Group

chewierat — 2008-03-07 14:11:25Z

Hi Liz,

thanks for that information. I will follow up that marriage record also. Glad I am not the only one to have problems finding them in the census records! I will send you a personal email also.

thanks again

Leesa

Re: Elford Family History Group

lizwinney — 2008-03-06 23:24:57Z

Hi Leesa

Re my earlier posting. I have now found three of the children's birth records as you say in Camelford and have the registration details. I have also found a marriage of a Mary Jane George marrying Edward Elford Camelford district, Sept qtr, 1869 which would seem to fit, but have searched and searched the censuses and the family just seem to have vanished. It did strike me that if Edward had died and Mary Jane remarried, then the children might possibly be recorded under her new name but I just can't find any combination of names at all anywhere. I'll keep trying anyway and come back to you if I find anything.

Liz

Re: Elford Family History Group

lizwinney — 2008-03-04 17:46:06Z

Hi Leesa, nice to hear from you and will do what I can to help.

Give me a few days and I'll look through my records and see what I can find for you. my personal email is lizwinney@aol.com which is probably quicker to use as I usually check it every day, unlike Ancestry.

Cheers, Liz

Re: Edmund Elford Born c.1813 Dorchester, Dorset.

lizwinney — 2008-08-18 19:44:46Z

Hi Tony,

I have information on this line - what do you need to know?

Regards

Liz

Re: Elford Family History Group

lizwinney — 2008-09-09 19:05:56Z

Hi,

Thanks for your message and snap - my mother was an Elford too, although her family came from Radstock, nr Bath. I am aware of your family tree via the late Laura Elford's records which I am slowly indexing down at the Plymouth & W.Devon RO.

I don't think though, she proved that the Black Prince gave the Sheepstor land to an Elford, just thought it might have been - the records are very hazy that far back.

Liz

Re: Elford Family History Group

lizwinney — 2008-09-10 16:45:48Z

Hi Margaret, thanks for replying. I think I wrote to your cousin David Elford some years ago as I contacted most of the Elfords in this area.

I became so engrossed with the Elfords that I joined the Guild of One-Name Studies to do a one-name study of the Elford Name, and set up the Elford Family History Group 2 or 3 years ago. It costs £10 pa to join and I do a couple of newsletters a year and help other Elford researchers.

If you'd like to email me via elford@one-name.org, I can let you have more info.

Liz

Re: Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

lizwinney — 2009-02-10 20:26:48Z

Hi, I have some data on the Tetminster & Chetnole Elfords but there was a huge family there over many generations.
Can you let me know who you are looking for please?

Liz

Re: Elford in Yetminster and Chetnole, Dorset

lizwinney — 2009-02-11 19:19:17Z

Hi,
I have looked at the transcripts of the parish registers for Yetminster/Chetnole (I don't have them for the Melbury villages.

I have discounted Mary bn Aug 16th 1746 (twin of Jane) to Thomas & Elizabeth , who both seem to have been buried on 14th & 21st Sept 1746.
I have also discounted the Mary bn 1744 to Foy & Mary also buried in 1745 and their 2nd dau Mary bn 1754 would have been too young.

So I am inclined towards Mary bap 20/071748 to Jonathan & Mary. This does make her rather old for Soloman born either 1793 or 1798 (IGI differs) but not impossible I suppose. There was another Solomon born to a David Childs (Samuel's brother?) so possibly there's a mistake there.
Samuel Elford/Childs was obviously born before marriage as only his mother's name is noted. He married Elizabeth Childs (a cousin?) on 05/12/1803 at Melbury Sampfold according to the BRVI.

It's handy to check the burial registers so you can cross off those who didn't survive to get married!!!

Hope this helps. Liz

Re: Elford Family History Group

lizwinney — 2008-01-09 21:15:04Z

Hi Lorinda,

It might be easier if you email me direct at lizwinney@aol.com so I can tell you a bit more about the Elford Family History group.

Cheers, Liz

Re: Edmund Elford Born c.1813 Dorchester, Dorset.

lizwinney — 2008-08-18 21:01:25Z

Hi Tony,

from the records in my possession, Edmund was born in Dorchester on 4/5/1812 bapt 2/8/1812 son of Lionel Elford and Ann Freak. (dorchester bapts 1772-1837). Lionel & Ann's first son was called James Harvey, which ties in with the Hastings line.(they had at least 6 children). Edmund married Maria Blake at Ringwood 9/4/1832.
Lionel & Ann married 1808 in Dorchester and I have a copy of a Settlement Certificate for Lionel (aged 51) dated 1829 stating he was born at Winterbourne Whitchurch, Dorset & he was 8 when his father died.This makes his birth around 1778 so he appears to be son of a Joseph Elford & Jane Hawkins who married at Milton Abbey 24/4/1771 (IGI). Joseph I think is son of William Elford and Ann ? which is as far as I've got.Email me direct if you like on "elford@one-name.org"
Liz

Re: Elford Family History Group

lizwinney — 2008-01-02 19:05:02Z

Hi Alan,

Many thanks for your post which was interesting. I do have some data about the Gravesends & Cliffe Elfords due to another researcher/ancester in Canada.
Look forward to hearing from you further.

Liz

Re: Elford Family History Group

lizwinney — 2008-01-02 19:01:19Z

Hi Lorinda,

You may recall that you posted a reply but last year, which for some really odd reason, has only just been relayed back to me by Ancestry. If you still want to join the Elford Family History Group, please let me know and I will be pleased to help you.

Liz

Re: Elford Family History Group

lizwinney — 2008-06-02 20:55:00Z

Hi Caroline, good to hear from you - we're kind of related as my ancestors came from Writhlington too. If you would like to email me again directly on lizwinney@aol.com I can reply more fully.

Liz

Re: Edmund Elford Born c.1813 Dorchester, Dorset.

tony16646 — 2008-08-18 20:02:48Z

Hi Liz,
I am looking for information regarding his parentage and also that of his wife Maria born c.1813 Ringwood, Hampshire.
I am aware of his history from about 1836 when the family lived in Hastings, Sussex.
I would be extremely grateful for any assistance.
Kind regards,
Tony.

Edmund Elford Born c.1813 Dorchester, Dorset.

tony16646 — 2008-08-18 12:48:22Z

Seeking info re above who lived in Hastings, East Sussex from about 1836 until he died there in 1857.

Re: Edna Christine ELFORD: ?bn Devon, ENG?, died 1890 ONT, CAN

elford36 — 2008-07-08 02:51:01Z

my family is also from Devonshire....Winifred was my grandmums name..not sure id it was maiden or married her husband died when my dad was 3 yrs old....she had sister named Gwen......and she lived in REGINA SASKATCHEWAN in her later years

Elford in Regina Saskatchewan

elford36 — 2008-07-08 01:22:53Z

Hello, my grandmum was Winifred Molly Elford...not sure if it was maiden name or married name...her husband died in 1933 or so from pneuomonia. She had 1 sister named Gwen...and they were from Devonshire England....she had 2 sons Roy (my father and Cecil.....she passed in 2002 in Regina Saskatchewan...any help would be appreciated....... email me elford36@gmail.com