Elmes - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: New Zealand Elmes

dcullen1 — 2012-03-09 06:46:54Z

Do you have email? If so, perhaps you would like to drop me a line at dcullen@xtra.co.nz and I can send you through some more information.

Kind regards
Debbie Cullen

Re: New Zealand Elmes

btwellmeadow — 2012-03-09 02:54:27Z

Hi D Cullen,
Thanks for the swift responce. You are correct on all counts! Eliza Jane Elmes and John Ould were my Grandmother's parents. She was Emma Ould born 24-8-1870, 12 Rolls Rd Bermondsey. She married Alfred Jones on 17-4-1892 at St Mary Magdalene Southwark. One of the witness was her sister Mary Jane Ould. They had ten children survive to adulthood, one of whom was my Mum Mary Jane Jones. She and Dad,AlbertTate,married 15-11-1924 St Olaves Southwark. Mum died aged 97 in Christchurch is buried in the family plot at Glentunnel Canterbury.Mum's oldest sister my Aunt May also died in Christchurch , her son Clem aged 90 lives in Golden Bay Nelson. It is amazing that so many of us (Many hundreds!) are direct descendants of Benjamin Elmes. I alone have 26 counting Gt Grandchildren! Where can I find the Trees or profiles of Benjamin Elmes, John Ould etc.? Thanks again. BT.

Re: New Zealand Elmes

btwellmeadow — 2012-03-09 01:48:21Z

Hi D Cullen,

Re: New Zealand Elmes

dcullen1 — 2012-03-09 01:41:23Z

Some more information:

George Benjamin Elmes & Mary Evans had 3 children
- George Benjamin born 1838, died 1842
- Mary Ann born 23 May 1840 married James Braithwaite
- Eliza Jane born 14 Feb 1843 married John Ould

George Benjamin snr died in 1844, both the girls were baptised 18/8/1847.

Re: New Zealand Elmes

dcullen1 — 2012-03-08 17:40:50Z

The witnesses to Eliza Jane marrying John Ould is her sister Mary Ann and her husband James Braithwaite which is correct -they were both daughters of George Bemjamin and Mary Evans. I have found the Ould family tree on line but it gets confusing - it would seem that there were two Eliza Jane Elmes. One born 1843 as you have, and Eliza Jane above born 1847 in Lambeth. So, if Ould is your line we definitely have a match and the online Ould family tree has the wrong Eliza Jane attached to it.

Re: New Zealand Elmes

dcullen1 — 2012-03-08 17:15:10Z

Many thanks for your message - I'm sure we have a match! I have slightly different details - George Benjamin Elmes married Mary Evans 26 Feb 1837 so different spouse name. Their daughter Eliza Jane married John Ould in 1862. Does that name sound familiar? George Benjamin died in 1844 age 32 so that fits in with her father dying when she was a child. I have found his wife Mary and daughter Jane on the 1861 census both working as servants. Look forward to hearing from you again!

Re: New Zealand Elmes

btwellmeadow — 2012-03-08 06:59:14Z

Have just found your post re: Benjamin Elmes and Mary Green family! Their fourth child George Benjamin born 6-6-1813 could be my Gt.Gt. Grandfather (I am 87yrs. old). The only facts I have is that George Benjamin Elmes and wife Jane had a daughter Eliza(beth) Jane Elmes baptised 9-4-43 at Whitechapel St Mary Tower Hamlets,was my Gr Grandmother. Her Dad died while she was a child, she and her Mum spent the rest of their lives in Southwark London. She had ten children all born at Rolls Rd Southwark. We may be related? Our family came to NZ. over fifty years ago (Christchurch)

Elms family

Lorraine_ball1 — 2012-01-19 20:56:12Z

I'm looking for members of my family who were from Chippenham Wiltshire,Im daughter of Dorothy Elms Pamela Elms I have a brother Donald bushall and a sister called Pat Young we were seprerated when we were very young .
Would like to get in touch after 35 years.

ELIAS ELMES

caseybath — 2011-12-07 08:26:23Z

Am trying to find Elias Elmes wife's name.
He was born 1/10/1600 in Laylock England. Father's name was Thomas Elmes and mother Elizabeth Sloper. He had 2 sons that I am aware of, Michaell Elmes,born 27/7/1630, and Robert Elmes, born 18/8/1633

Re: Mary Elmes, Waterford Quaker 20th Century

BernardWilson1933 — 2011-07-24 08:48:16Z

Hi!
I'm writing a biography of Mary Elmes, and would appreciate contact with you and any information you can give me. I am in contact with her son and daughter in SW France.

Bernad

Re: Mary Ann Elmes

@@jjlang@xtra.co.nz — 2011-05-22 05:23:29Z

Looking for an Ann ELMES born circa 1829/30 in St Pancras, London, England. She supposedly married Thomas CORNELL - I say this because I cannot find a marriage for them both.
Have her maiden name from the birth cert of her son Alfred CORNELL.
Cheers Jenny

Re: looking for family members

oftenone — 2011-03-30 16:15:53Z

ok. thanks. when i try to reply to her it seems to default to you. sorry.

Re: looking for family members

MargaretElmes — 2011-03-30 11:25:33Z

Re: looking for family members

MargaretElmes — 2011-03-30 11:24:30Z

Re: looking for Elmes family members

MargaretElmes — 2011-03-29 22:00:14Z

In the Wexford family there is a William with 4 brothers and 3 sisters born in the 1920s in Rochestown, I visited some of the family in 2000 and they are scattered all over the place. There are other Williams I can't track down now

Re: looking for family members

oftenone — 2011-03-29 20:53:20Z

is this pbwarden22? she had a question about june lally...

Re: looking for family members

MargaretElmes — 2011-03-29 19:05:24Z

I think so but I haven't recently renewed if a subscription is needed! I'm not very active but am always ready to help

Re: looking for family members

oftenone — 2011-03-29 17:46:30Z

Are you still on this forum?

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

jbben — 2011-02-01 14:40:14Z

Dear Sally

I picked up your message with interest. Charles and Susannah Elmes were my GG Grandparents. My line is through his sone Richard Elmes, his daughter Alice Maud who married John Janes, her daughter Violet who married Cyril Edmunds were my parents. My maiden name was Jean Valerie Edmunds, then Adams, now Bentley.

If this line is of use to your research, let me know and I can give you further names and dates.

Regards

Jean

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

SallyNewman14 — 2011-02-01 11:33:43Z

Hi Ken Thank you for replying to my querie re The Elmes of Lacock 1700's sorry I have not replied before but have only just found your reply (am not very switched on with this lot as I guess you have gathered it was more by puck than design that I found it so sorry ) any info you have will be appreciated as to ancesters
Kind Regards Sally Newman

Re: Mary Elmes, Waterford Quaker 20th Century

gitoliu — 2010-11-28 08:37:24Z

Mary Elmes was born in Cork

Re: Mary Elmes, Waterford Quaker 20th Century

donnellyp1 — 2010-08-14 19:13:40Z

Hi,

My GG Grandmother was Catherine Jane Elmes, she was married and lived in Waterford, although originally came from Wexford. She had a brother John Powell Elmes who married a Harriet Morris also lived in Waterford. I see you have been researching an Elmes line from this area, have you had any luck with your Mary Elmes? and if so have you any information relating to her and her family?

Best Regards
Paul

Re: looking for Elmes family members

MargaretElmes — 2010-08-14 17:50:35Z

Yes I have quite a lot of data on the Elmes of Wexford and I'm pleased to hear that the Elmes letters are in the National Archives as when my late husband and I went to Wexford 10 years ago they were in private ownership of an Elmes descendant who we met.
When I have time I'll get at my Wexford Elmes file and see what I can find for you but am a bit busy today
Best wishes
Margaret Elmes

Re: looking for Elmes family members

donnellyp1 — 2010-08-14 12:01:21Z

It has been some time since I have been able to look further into my Elmes line, what with x 2 busy Children to entertain :-) Anyhow I have managed to make a bit of a breakthrough and it turns out that my Elmes line comes from Tintern, Curraghmore, Wexford...My GG Grandmother was Catherine Jane Elmes, Her father and mother were Edward Elmes and Catherine Elmes...Edwards father was a Samuel Elmes...Has anyone come across a link to the Elmes family in this part of Wexford...I discovered recently a batch of letters referred to as the Elmes letters which are arcived in the National archives dublin, they were written between a Samuel Elmes and Robert Morris around the end of the 1700,s in it they refer to Samuels sons, Thomas, Samuel (jnr), and King Elmes. In the letter they make reference to Samuel (Jnr) buying a farm in the late 1700,s at Curraghmore...Thomas was involved in the 1798 rebellion and served in the Milita...King was involved in the Royal Navy...do any of these names ring a bell and can anyone shed any further light on the family in Wexford?

Re: Family History

susiehelme — 2010-02-22 12:42:08Z

I am a descendant of Christopher Helme who descended from the Elmes of Long sutton. I have all their info, but cannot trace them to the Elmes of Northamptonshire.
Susie Helme

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

kenelms — 2010-02-14 18:59:55Z

HiJean,
Have you been able to make inroads on the Lacock Elms. Like you, I feel sure they were closely related,albeit at cousins in the 1700-1800.

I joined the Wiltshire Family History Society and some other people looking for the Ancestor, James Elmes B1776--the thatcher who lived at Notton,closeby to Lacock.

There are so many Robert,George,Williams, but few James and Charles.

I have tried to find out why there are no baptism records. But other than maybe they were no baptised ,I'm at a Loss.

Hope you are keeping well.

Regards, Ken Elms

Re: New Zealand Elmes

ralgar1 — 2009-09-29 22:47:11Z

Hello Debbie
You may know this information but will send it
John Elmes Married Ann Mathie at Lewisham in 1842. It seems they had 2 daughters in Gillingham, Kent, Ann Isabella born 1846 and Mary Jane born 4 June 1848 also a son John born 1853 and a daughter Hannah born 1856 in N.Z.
Mary Jane Married Frederick Algar 18 March 1865.
Ann isabella married in 1866 .
John married Elizabeth Sheperd 1876.
Hannah married Arthr Stephen Hellyer 1877.
All these marriages were at Napier.
Frederick Algar was my Gt.Grandfather's brother.
Hope this is of interest.

Re: Katherine Elmes b. Massachusetts ca. 1700

MargaretElmes — 2009-08-10 21:53:39Z

I haven't published one but Robert Elmes in USA might have done

Re: Katherine Elmes b. Massachusetts ca. 1700

jcbuker — 2009-08-10 21:22:10Z

Thank you both for your information, is there an Elmes tree published?

Re: Katherine Elmes b. Massachusetts ca. 1700

MargaretElmes — 2009-08-10 10:16:32Z

Katherine was the daughter of Rudolphus Elmes and Bethia Dodson, his father was also Rudolphus who married Catherine Whitcomb he had arrived in Scituate Mass from England in about 1635 as a settler from Southwark, Surrey. His father was also Rudolphus who is descended from a long line of Elmes in England going back to the 15th century. The name is spelt several differnt ways, Rho, Ru, Ra and the second E in Elmes is sometimes dropped.

Re: New Zealand Elmes

MargaretElmes — 2009-08-10 09:31:03Z

Radolphus or Rodolphus# 1 married Sarah and they had Anthony, Radolphus #2, 1620-1709 (who married Catherine Whitcomb 1624-1668 in Scituate), Jonathan, Henry, Margaret who I believe didn't leave England.
Rhodolphus #3 1668-1749 who married Bethia Dodson was the third of the name and I have him down as dying in Middlesborough Mass and I presume he was R#2's son whose father built him a house in Scituate that is still there (I have seen and photographed it).
The spelling of the name is very inconsistent.
I have R#1's lineage back to the 15th century in England.
We may not be descended from Rudolphus as our line comes from either an Elms who went to Bandon Co Cork in 1588 or one of Cromwell's army who had a grant of land in Ireland in the 1640s but who stayed in Ireland until the 20th century

Re: New Zealand Elmes

genihunt — 2009-08-09 23:27:39Z

Hi. I am decended from Rudolphus who came to the English colonies in 1635. I would be very interested in any information about his family that you are willing to share. I have that he was the son of Mr. Elmes and his wife Sarah. His mother died in 1654 and he returned to England in 1656 to help settle the estate. I descend through his granddaughter Katherine who married Eleazer Carver in 1719. Katherine was the daughter of Rudolphus Elmes and Bethia Dodson.

Sylvia

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

kenelms1 — 2009-08-09 10:57:06Z

Hi Sally,

Like you, I strongly believe based on our known sources of information, that James Elmes[Elms] b1776 is indeed a common link. He was a thatcher.His son Robert B 1805 links to being George Elmes [b 1845] as my grt grd fthr.

My Robert first married Esther Jenkins. There were some children. Esther died. In 1844,Robert[widower] married Sarah Sadd [spinster]. Robert's marriage certificate shows father James. It does link together.

The family names reappear, James,Robert,George,William,Job,Reuben etc

But I cannot find a record of baptism for James. I have found his parish record of marriage to Betty Emmett.

Keep in touch.

Regards, Ken

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

kenelms1 — 2009-08-09 10:39:27Z

Hi Jean,

We have contacted each other previously on our Elms/Elmes searches. But the puzzle for each of us,is how did they link. In my case I have reached a brick wall for James Elmes b1776/77.

But there are no Charles or Richard in his children's names. But Robert,George,Job do appear.I have tried everything I know to find James's baptism record in the North Wiltshire area[Lacock where he is shown born on census.

I have found a marriage parish record at Chippenham for James and Betty Emmett. The comforting think for us is the family name goes back to the 1500's in the area. Include all the history -Civil war etc and the areas were relatively quiet countryside villages -sheep,agricultue --no lords of the manor,royal appointees.

So, We'll best hope something turns up at best.

Regards, Ken

Re: elmes from london

pua51 — 2009-08-07 17:49:34Z

Cecil Frederick Elmes was my grandfather, Fottie. He did indeed marry Margaret Flood, Niggie. As Margaret has told you (Hello again Margaret) they had a child, Cecily. Cecily was my mother. Her career as a pilot for the US during WWII, although short lived, was an additional testimony to her father's forward thinking. He encouraged and paid for the pilot training she received at the age of 17. You may be interested to know that Fottie was also a published story teller - nom-de-plume 'Hallbowlin Elmes'. Hallbowlin (sp?) being his place of birth.

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

jbben — 2009-08-07 09:35:31Z

We seem to be a product of the same root. Charles Elmes was my G G Grandfather and was born about 1819.
He was married to Susanah Button on 24 Feb 1844 and she was born about 1824 - both in Lacock.
Charles' father was George. and Susanah's was Joseph Button (b abt 1786). He was married to Susanna (b abt 1791).
Charles and Susanah had 8 children :-
George - June 1844
Elizabeth - July 1847
Anna - July 1847
Richard - Feb 1848
Job - Sep 1851
James - Sep 1851
William - 1855
Mary Jane - 2 July 1859

My line is through Richard - my G Grandfather.
I hope this is useful to you. My e-mail is adamsbentley@tiscali.co.uk if you wish to contact me direct.

Jean Bentley

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

sallynewman61 — 2009-08-06 13:39:43Z

Hi Ken thank you for your reply any info re C Elmes would be much appreciated, according to my research my C Elmes was the son of Geoge Elmes a labourer , the marriage of C Elmes to Susannah Button took place on 24th Feb 1844
Cheers Sally

Re: ELMS

wecox — 2009-08-04 00:35:48Z

MaryAnn Vennard married Joseph W. Elmes 14 Feb 1865 in Grey
Co., Ontario. They had the following children: Catherin J.
24 Oct 1866,Elizabeth 19 Jul 1868, Ann C 23 Jun 1870, Susanna 07 Jul 1872, Sarah 01 Feb 1874, Joseph Henry 05 Mar 1877. They lived in Grey Co. & Bruce Co. Ontario. Joseph had come from Wexford Co. Ireland & they met in Ont.I'm still woking on his ancestors. The family moved to Alcona, MI in 1879. All the children married in MI. Joseph Henry was my great grandfather. He went to college & became a vetranarian. His oldest daughter MaryAnn was my grandmother. Joseph's family grew up in Eagle Bend,MN. Susanna & husband Sam Sloan moved to Two Harbors,MN With Joseph W. MaryAnn VennardElmes died in 1901 in MI. Joseph W. died in MN in 1925. Joseph Henry died in 1966. Our family has good records of the descendants
of Joseph W & MaryAnn. Need anymore?
Susan Rasmusson

Re: New Zealand Elmes

MargaretElmes — 2009-08-01 18:36:20Z

I have the Elmes family of Southwark but only up to 1654 when Sara Elmes died. She had 7 children including Rudolphus who emigrated to New England and started a long line of Elmes there. Her other sons were Anthony, Jonathan, Henry and John Elmes the second who died about 1651. If you could find the connection I have a lot of data going back to the 15th century

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

kenelms1 — 2009-07-29 22:49:52Z

Hi sally,
Thank you for your email and noting your ggg grd parents as your interest--Charles Elms[Elmes] and Susannah Button. My interest has concentrated from James Elmes b1776 [I believe Lacock, but hithertoo, I and others cannot find a Parish Record for that baptism. I have tried everything I can,but seemingly to no avail. I have a NIMROD list of marriages for Elms[Elmes] from 1560 or there abouts. But I cannot find Charles ans Susanah. But I think the Wiltshire website of BMD shows a marriage for 1844. Susannah Button. The same year as my Robert Elmes-Sarah Sadd. Also Joseph Elmes and Charlotte Robbins.

There is info at the LDS site [Latterr Day Saints]. There is also a pilot website run by them on Vital records [2nd edition].

I used to belong fully to Ancestry, but could make no progress. I also belong to the Wiltshire Family Society-but there too, Lacock is not transcribed.

I have contacted Doris Roddham [Chippenham] and she traces to my James Elmes. Also a Paul Welch[Calne] who found a copy of James Elmes and Betty Emmett[m 1799] at St Andrews, Chippenham.

I know there were more Elms at Lacock and nearby Kington St Michael. But I cannot find connecting links. But its worth keeping in contact as our traces lead to Lacock. The 1841 census there shows the families. I think Charles lived on the High St. I am sure the Elms[Elmes] were closely related. They all appear to come from North Wiltshire and surrounding areas.

I know James Elmes is shown as a Thatcher and lived Notton [very close to Lacock].

I know in my line that there are no Charles' as christian names. But Robert, George, William and Joseph crop up a lot. A Reuben too.

Hopefully, you can view my family tree on this Ancestry site.I also have a pedigree tree on LDS who have made it into a cd disk.

Ken

Re: Elmes - Lacock 1700's

sallynewman61 — 2009-07-29 14:26:30Z

Hi I am aslo trying to find out info on Charles and Susannah Elmes they were my G G G Grandparents , I have found out some info and would be interested in pooling research

Re: looking for Elmes family members

MargaretElmes — 2009-07-25 10:52:04Z

I have had a message from wecox about a family of Elmes from Wexford that I've been trying to answer without success so I'm posting this on someones else's site in the hope wecox reads it!
my email address is margaret@dawroshouse.co.uk

Re: Julius P Elmes

MargaretElmes — 2009-07-25 09:54:30Z

I am very pleased to find a grand daughter of Julius Elmes as my sister in law met him in the 1950s but we lost touch. He was the son of Robert Elmes of Dublin who was my late husband's great great uncle. I have the full ancestry of this branch of Irish Elmes going back in Co Cork to the 18th century and would be happy to pass on any information you need. My email address is margaret@dawroshouse.co.uk.
Margaret Elmes

Re: elmes from london

MargaretElmes — 2009-07-25 09:38:27Z

Cecil Elmes was my late husband's cousin, he was a civil engineer who did very well in Chicago and set up Cecil Elmes associates in New York and prospered, mixing in the best social circles. His daughter Cecily was one of the women pilots who ferried warplanes from factory to airfield and was a member of WASP, the Womens's Airline Pilot's who have just been awarded a Congressional Medal of Honor even though most of the survivors are very old now. Cecily had 2 husbands and 3 children.
I'm having trouble replying to messages thro' this channel so you can have my email address margaret@dawroshouse.co.uk

Re: elmes from london

StowellMyers — 2009-06-16 11:15:47Z

HI

Looking for a Cecil Elmes that married a Margaret Flood who had previously been married to a Lewis Brown who died. She had 2 children from Brown.

They married in New York. Lived in Chicago on LakeShore Drive, Sarasota Springs Florida.

Does any of this sound familiar?

Thank you

Marge

Re: Elemes?

mrbosseh2o — 2009-05-20 21:58:09Z

well...I'm an ELMES and i'm looking for information on my family...my grandfather's name was James D. Elmes Sr.
So if any one has any info on him and his parents and theirs and going as far back as...God knows when....do tell!!!

Re: Family History

brndtthenry — 2009-05-08 10:41:10Z

hi

I am a decendant of the elmes family. My mum was part of a
large family. Her aunt, who is now in GERMANY, HAS A SISTER WHOS NAME IS Doreen. My late mum Patricia Lucy,(she passed away two weeks ago at the age of 53);has a sister , Cecelia Elmes. She is a matron at RK. Khans Hospital in Durban. She has a sister, Priscilla. She lives in Newlands East of Durban. I have two brothers, Darel 17 years, and Craig, 14 years, and a 30 year old sister Elizabeth.We took the surname Wardle, which is my late dads Surname.We also have Family in Nongoma, Eshowe, Cape Town, Johannesburg. ect. These are all decendants of the Dunns and Elmes family. John Dunn was a settler who was given a piece of land in Mangete,Kwazulu natal, together with 10 Zulu wives. This was in the late 1800's. He befreinded the Chief who was a Zulu, and this is how he received a thousand hectares of land. this land was split up between 10 wives and this is where I grew up. We lived on a farm which was 100 hectares of land. My gran (mums mum, was not known by me, as sh died young, together with her husband. Thsi was separate incidents. It was said that they were formally from Durban, and had homes there, which were eventually sold. This was probably how they ended up on the farm. It comes to mind that the Surname Elmes was from my mums dad, Mr. Elmes. He married a Dunn, from Mangete.

If any more informationis needed, please call me on my celphone: +27 733195505.(0733195505). I live in Umbilo,Durban, Kwazulu Natal.South Africa.

Kind Regards

Re: elemes family

apolloonOlympus — 2009-04-10 04:27:19Z

Hi, Terry Livelsberger is my cousin. Helen Elemes Beaumont (Jim's sister) was my grandmother. I recall being at Helen's funeral when Uncle Jim passed away from the stress of it (in 1967). I also recall being at Honey Lou's funeral in Allison Park near Pittsburgh. I recall it was very hard on Chuck (Charles Rhodes). I hope everybody is well. Bill Beaumont 4/9/09.

Harriet Elmes, Cheltenham, 1891 etc

NancyWilson90 — 2009-03-03 03:23:29Z

Am tracing the family of Harriet(t) Elmes, a lodging-house keeper at 20 Royal Parade, Cheltenham, per 1891 Census. Her children were Edith, age 8, Emma, age 6, Charles, age 4, and later there was a Gilbert, born 1892. The father does not appear; he may have been a butler in a private home living out.
I can only trace Charles to 1901 when, at 14, he was working as a Clerk for a Pianoforte maker.
In 1901 Emma was a Servant in a home in Cheltenham.
Emma came to the U.S. in 1910 and married.
Are there descendants of Edith, Charles, or Gilbert out there? Is the father's name known?
Emma's descendants in the U.S. are interested to know more. She did not keep in touch with the family after coming here.
Thank you.

Re: Imogene Elmes

WardHobby51 — 2009-02-26 19:44:51Z

Hi Robert,

I am late to this thread and hope that you are still active online.

I have a connection to Benjamin Elms of Maine and who married Hannah Tilden in Canton Mass abt april 1 1800 according to the intentions filed there in the town of Canton, Mass records. I am looking to see if he is related to Rhodolphus Ellmes of Scituate but can not find any connection between the two cities there in Massachusetts. I have been to both Canton and Sciuate and didn't find any family histories to connect them locally.

You mentioned that you had Ellmes back to the 1400s. I wonder if you have my Benjamin who had gone up to Unity /Searsport Maine and had a family up there.

Thank you,
Ward Hobby