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Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-09-27 03:15:13Z

To finish the story on Martha Wilson, her parents were Swepson/Swepston Wilson and Dorothe/Dolley Key.
Swepson was born Oct 1794 Warren Co,NC, son of Henry Wilson (c 1749-1812) and Rachel Paschall(1755-1892) died c 1865 in Henry Co, TN.
Rachel Paschall was the daughter of William Paschall (c1700 NJ- 1Nov1774 Bute Co.,NC) and Reliance Dennis (c1700 NJ-after 1739 NC), married c1725 Woodbridge, Middlesex County,
NJ,
Dorothy was born 1800 in Rockingham Co., NC, the daughter of Garland Key (1770-1810) and Rebeccah, and died Dec1873 in Henry Co, TN
Garland Key was the son of Thomas Key and Mary Simms of Virginia and Rockingham Co, NC.

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-09-27 03:13:20Z

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-09-15 02:28:17Z

Same story we have heard here last week I went to their graves and thought about the meeting in the school house also. I think Malinda Jane who married Capt John Paschall was related to Aunt Jo's first husbsand here in Ok. This was why she left the money to Oklahoma University, I don't know how the two were related. My mother had the original's and I have those and copies. Same as many others have. Since we border Ark and they lived in the next county in Ark. I am wondering if they married in Ok or a record I have after Martha married John Stovall the marriage licenses I have seen were in Sevier Co. Ark We got copies in Dequeen Ark a few years ago but some of the weddings were in Goodwater which is Mc Curtain Co. Ok Goodwater was very near Locksburg Ark and Chapel Hill Ark where some are also buried. Since they were near the border area I just wanted to confirm my info with yours. Thanks Jo Ann

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

jackiemaydee — 2009-09-09 21:34:35Z

She wrote that Jo had helped her. Thats basically all I had. Is your copy on legal paper with birth and death dates?

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

dklj293 — 2009-09-06 19:49:34Z

Jackie and other Enoch descendants who have contributed info:
Simuel Enoch is the son of John Bethel and Mary E. Lassiter Enoch. Mary E. is the daughter of Joab and Sarah McDaniel Lassiter and the sister of my gg grandfather, Shadrick Lassiter. Shadrick married Elixia B. Enoch, sister to John Bethel Enoch. I would love to have the info you mentioned. I don't have alot of Enoch info but will gladly share what I do have and anything you might like on my Lassiter line.

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-09-06 11:10:28Z

I do have a copy of what Jo-Effa wrote, but not her brother James Marion did

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

jackiemaydee — 2009-09-06 04:38:02Z

I will try to re-write what was written by Jo Efa Enoch, her brother James Marion supplied some of this info. I'll rewrite / copy the beginning - and send it tomorrow as an attachment. It is too long to re-copy the entire thing. If I can scan it from my computer I'll try that.
I'll get back with you later this weekend.

Jackie

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-09-05 23:26:27Z

JOHN NANCE b. ca. 1782 in NC or VA, died at Henry Co., TN 1873. . John lived as a hunter in the wilds of KY for a number of years. PETER NANCE, b. 1819 in NC and Died 1854 in Obion ounty, TN, son of JOHN andj Francis Crawford. , m. 1st Malinda Ferris 1844 in Obion Co, and had one daughter Malinda Jane 1845. Malinda died aas a result of childbirth, and Peter m. 2nd Martha Wilson 1846 in Henry Co. They had children: James Theophilius 1847 - 1883, Sarah Albans 1849-1935 , Leni Leota 1853-?1935? , and Melecanth 1851-1858. PETER died 1854 in Troy, Obion Co, and is buried there. PETER changed his last name to NANTES,supposedly after fleeing Henry County due to a bankruptcy, then his son James chaged it to NANTS, and it has stayed that way in this branch of the family to this day,
Martha married 1858 as her 2nd husband John H Stovall, and had 8 more children, most of whom were born in Henry County, TN, the last born in Texas in 1873. they moved on to Chickasw Territory which became a part of Oklahoma. She died in 1903, and he died in 1905. they are both buried Springer Cemetery.

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-09-05 23:02:30Z

My Dad, grandson of James toowing from his dad, who was nephew of your Sarah Enoch
Peter Randolph was born 24 Jan1819 in North Carolina, and died in Obion County, TN on 24 Jul1854. He first appears in Obion County in 1842 in the tax books. He woned 2 town lots and was a tailorf. He married first Malinda Farris 05 Mar 1844 in Obion County. She died 17 Sep 1845 after the birth of her daughter Mailnda Jane Nantes
He married second, Martha Ann Wilson daughter of Swepson Wilson and Dorothy Key) 24 Feb 1846 n Henry County, TN Sarah Alban, Leni Leota, and James Theophilus were their children, along with Melacanth who died young
After Peter died , Martha married again to John H Stovall, a minister on 08 Apr 1858 in Henry County. They had several children in Henry County, then moved to Texas c 1873, then On to Chicksaw Territory which became Oklahoma, where she died in 1903 and is buried in Springer Cemetery.
Peter was thej son of John Nance (1782-1873) and Francews Crawford.
There is no proof, but we think Peter was born in Rockingham County, NC

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

jackiemaydee — 2009-09-05 19:42:33Z

From the docs that were typed by Jo Efa Enoch Paschall Craig in 1947.
She states that Sarah Alban born 12/22/1849 -
parents were Peter Randolph & Martha (Wilson) Nantes-Married September 4, 1904 in state of OK. They had 8 children. I have their names and dates of birth. if you need them let me know.
Martha Wilson was the daughter of Swepston Wilson & Dolly (Key).

Peter Randolph's was the son of John & Susan Lovier ; no info on Lovier that I could find yet.

Before Peter was married to Martha Wilson, he was married to Ferris - who died while giving birth to Malinda Jane. Peters first daughter. Malinda Jane married Capt. John Paschell.

John Nantes was the son of James T. Nantes who came from France. Settled in Virginia.

Sarah Alban Nantz met Simuel in a school house "OakGrove school house. They married Oct 28, 1869.

If you dont already have copies of the docs I have, I'de be happy to send you copies. my grandmother was filling in some of the death dates - as she could remember. How sad.
I have photo copies - I think my dad may have the original. Not sure how many copies were out there.

Jackie

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

jackiemaydee — 2009-09-05 18:54:52Z

Hi Sonia, Your name is mentioned in a 1987 letter from Mary N. Palmer. Written to me; She mentions you have researched quite a bit of info...I'de be interested to keep in contact with you.
Simuel and Sarah are also my great great grandparents/ their daughter Cumy- her daughter Ruby May Segler was my Grandmother -
Mary wrote a wonderful letter - learning of my marriage talking about the old times.
I was named Jackie May White - after my uncle Jackie Joe who died at age 17 in the Korean war. (Im a girl by the way) : )
Gene Whites daughter.

PS Last night I read that HIGHTOWER is a Choctaw name - but you probably already know that - I too would like more info.

I pulled up so much info on our famous relative Rosella Hightower. I just ordered a book and learned that there are several art- murals and statues of the 5 famous American Indian Ballet dancers. How wonderful!!
She has a duaghter in France - still dancing / teaching.

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-09-05 17:28:37Z

Hi,k Jackie,
I'm a secendant of Sarah's brother James Theophilus Nantes.
What do you have on the generations prior to Sarah and James?

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

jackiemaydee — 2009-09-05 06:42:51Z

Hi - I might have info for you;
Sarah Alban & Simuel Enoch had 8 children.
*James Marion Born Sept 26th, 1870
*William Dophus Born Jan 14, 1872, died 1945
*Cumy Averine born Feb 12, 1874
family moved west on wagon to TX
Lived in Cleborn, Johnson County TX for 1 year.
moved to Brown County TX where they stayed through 1877.
Moved to Correll County where they homestead 160 acres.
*2nd Daughter Mary Jane born March 2, 1878
next they moved to Thackersville, Indian Territory where they lived until November 25th 1885.
another daughter
*Martha, born June 28th, 1880 died July 4th 1880. Weighed 2 pounds. Burried her in a shoe box.
Next:
*Case Cilus born Nov 25, 1881
next:
*Anna May; born May 26th 1885
then;
*Jo Efa; born Aug 31 1887
in 1902 their house burned down. They moved to Goodwater, (indian territory)-moved with the three youngest kids (others grew up and moved).
1906 Goodwater became a state so they had to move. No longer indian territory. Then they moved to Bethel

If you need more - I have what child moved where and their kids...hope this helps. would love to hear more of what you found out.

Jackie

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

jackiemaydee — 2009-09-05 06:08:16Z

Hi Im new on this board. But in your message are you referring to the Anna Dean Hightower? Joe Miller Hightower?
OR Jo Efa born Aug 31, 1887? and Anna May born May 26th 1885.

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

jackiemaydee — 2009-09-05 05:58:23Z

Hi folks. My grandmother was Ruby May Segler, White, Cima. Daughter of Cumy Averine Enoch- one of the daughters of Sarah and Simuel. I have a copy of a lot of info on Simuel Enoch & Sarah Alban - info written by their youngest daughter Jo Efa. Hand typed from 1947.
If you are interested let me know.
I would be interested in what you all have learned, and your sources.
thank you,
Jackie

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-08-06 00:26:56Z

Hi, Sonia,
Have you discovered anything new on the family tree since we corresponded by USPS mail in the 1990s? You were the one who sent me the Nantes-Enoch family tree, and JoEffa's account of how the family migrated West.
Have you ever learned anything about Sarah's sisiter Leni Leota who married Levi Bird?
All the best,
SAndy

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

sonialh — 2009-07-18 18:38:15Z

Yes, address is the same. Should find the phone number on the internet. If you have my phone number, the number is the same but the area code has changed to 972. Give me a call.
Sonia

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

sonialh — 2009-07-18 18:35:07Z

As I said I know nothing about the Wilson's. and would like to know more. If you have the info I gave your mother, it has my phone number on it. Call me and we can compare notes. My area code has changed to 972 but the phone number is the same.
I remember when I visited your mother, she broke down when she told us about the tow truck accidents that killed your father and brother in two different accidents. My heart went out to her. After we left her house, I stopped by a florist and sent her some flowers.
Thank you for your reply.

Re: looking for children/siblings of Madison C. Enoch

AMBERBLACK25 — 2009-02-06 23:59:09Z

wow, this is so crazy,i cant believe that ur kids havent seen a pic of our dad. I hope u have good memories of my dad.that was a terrible thing he did to you,and your kids i feel like saying sorry to you for that.he did talk about you and the kids we knew about you and them. and ive seen pics of you guys i keeped them with me since i was 10 years old,im 34 and jeff is 38.theres pics of you and my dad and about 15 pics of linda and madison.more of linda i think you did your family tree in the front of it.ive looked for you guys but i never found anything.hats what i was doing when i seen your add.my number is 734-568-0082 call me any time. tabitha enoch

Re: looking for children/siblings of Madison C. Enoch

AMBERBLACK25 — 2009-02-06 02:23:14Z

MY NAME IS TABITHA ENOCH MY FATHERS NAME IS MADISON CLAY ENOCH JR MY AUNT IS JANICE AND SHARON UNCLE JIMMY AND EIRC IVE HEARD ABOUT YOU AND YOUR SON AND DAUGHTER HER NAME IS LINDA AND HIS IS MADISON I HAVE YOUR PICTURE ALBUM,YOUR GRANDMOTHERS NAME IS URSULA MORISON AND YOUR GRANDFATHER IS THOMAS MORRISON,I HAVE PICTURES THAT MY DAD KEEPED WITH HIM AND I RECIEVED THEM AFTER HE PASSED AWAY.I HAVE A BROTHER JEFF ENOCH.

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-07-13 23:49:39Z

Sonia, I think you communicated with my mother Elizabeth I remember your letters and have them or copies I think, Did you just see what came up about the Stovall, side and the other 8 children Sarah's mother had by that second marriage, I knew from our records parts but this new information sheds light on Sarah's 1/2 siblings and I heard from her brother James's line. I recognized your name and thought I would answer quickly. If Martha was buried in Ardmore as the other person said then we might can track her birth and burial records, this is the part mom thinks it was Martha Wilson that was indian but she was a little unsure, she remembers when they moved here in
Mc Curtain Co, and they are buried here and then she remembers going when they lived across the border, she was small but her older sister wrote about your side and told us stories, I am shocked about the 8 children, mom just said a second marriage and I thought they were probably older and did not think about the children she had that were 1/2 to Sarah. Is this anywhere close to what you thought. jo ann

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-07-13 23:47:49Z

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-07-12 02:07:40Z

thanks dawn, i have this info, are you the one who has info on martha wilson I border Sevier Co Ark. is this where the indian heritage comes in on the Enoch, side since Wilson is a Chocataw name it makes sense and this put them there at the right time. Let me know if this is what you haave heard. Thanks Jo Ann

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-07-12 02:07:38Z

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-07-12 02:07:04Z

thanks dawn, i have this info, are you the one who has info on martha wilsonn, I border Sevier Co Ark. is this where the indian heritage comes in on the Enoch, side since Wilson is a Chocataw name it makes sense and this put them there at the right time. Let me know if this is what you haave heard. Thanks Jo Ann

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-07-12 02:07:03Z

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-07-12 02:07:02Z

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

bethannpatjochelwa — 2009-06-24 05:49:12Z

I belong to Anna and am named for Jo and Anna I live where Simuel and Sarah are buried along with Uncle Jim. My mother was Anna's daughter Elizabeth. I guess you have some of the other info on the childrem I have some. Jo Ann

Re: looking for children/siblings of Madison C. Enoch

BeaCoates — 2009-02-07 03:34:50Z

Tabitha, would you please send your email address to mine, coates6405@aol.com. It's easier then having to sign on to ancestry.com to communicate? I will call you soon. Bea

Re: looking for children/siblings of Madison C. Enoch

BeaCoates — 2009-02-06 05:25:38Z

Tabitha, thank you for responding to my post. I've spoken with your Uncle Jeff and know of you and your brother, Jeff.
I was hoping to hear from someone related to Madison aka "Butch." I was very pleasantly surprised to hear from your Uncle Jeff after all these years. I had a lot of questions to ask him regarding your father. My daughter, Linda, and son, Madison, also known as Butch, never really knew their Dad. Linda was only 15 mos old and Madsion was just 9 mos. old when your dad went to Vietnam. When he returned to the states, he didn't let us know he was back. He went straight to Toledo, called me and told me he didn't want us anymore and to file for divorce. I was stunned and hurt to say the least, but file for divorce I did. He soon married Jo Ann and the rest is history.
My son is anxious to make contact with you and/or your brother. I'm sure there are a lot of questions he needs and would like to have answered too.
I would be interested in having copies of the pictures in the album you have. I have no pics of the kids, when they were small, or your dad, to show them. They were all left in a storage locker when Madison went to Vietnam. I would love to at least be able to show them a picture of their father. They've never seen one. If you would like to talk to me, you can call me at 314-991-1789 or I can call you if you send me your number. You can also write to me at coates6405@aol.com if you wish. I'd love to hear from you. Thanks again and please keep in touch. Bea

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

sonialh — 2009-07-12 16:09:38Z

Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nantz were my great great grandparents through their daughter Cumy Avarine Enoch. Would be interested in information on Sarah Alban Nantz. I do not have any information on Sarah's parents except for their names. I am also interested in the Choctaw connection. Have been looking for the Indian connection for my Hightower line. Cumy married my great grandfather Charles Eligah Hightower.
Sonia Hightower Hetherington

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-07-15 01:05:44Z

Perhpas the Indian came in once the family located in Oklahoma, as that was Chickasaw Indian territory at that time. The area didn't have a US census until 1910, just a territorial census.

Re: Simuel Enoch and Sarah Alban Nates

swanmak1 — 2009-07-15 01:02:28Z

Hi, Sonia,
We corresponded by snail mail back in the early 1990's on the Nantes/Nants family. My ggrandfather was James Theophilus Nantes, borther of Sarah. Since then, I've picked up quite a bit of information on the Nantes/Wilson family background, which I'm happy to share. Are you still living in Texas?
Sandy

John ENOCH born 1845 Germany > England

jayneebradley — 2008-01-06 23:46:41Z

Hi can anyone help me ?

I have an ancestor who, according to the UK census, was born in Germany - about 1845 - but states he was a British Subject....

I have asked at the British International Births section of the Register Office, and there is no record of his birth.

His father is named as James ENOCH, according to his marriage certificate, in 1870, when he marries in Yorkshire, England.

Could he be a child born to British parents living abroad and if so :-

1. Would he have had to be registered in Germany and if so, why was he not registered in Engalnd when he came here ?

I am assuming is parents brought him back to the UK but can't be sure of this as I have no way of knowing when ?

2. Could he be German and taken British Citizenship when he came here ???

ANYONE WITH ANY THEORIES .... please post, here... I would be eternally grateful.....

Re: Descendents of Samuel and Fannie (Ritter) Enoch

carolrosenthal47 — 2008-01-21 22:04:09Z

Randi--We are distantly--sort of--related, although by marriage only, as Samuel Enoch, Fanny Ritter's husband, was my grandmother's brother. I'm doing a family history for my son and nephews, and was wondering if you've come across anything about the Enochs. My Enoch grandmother's name was Sadie, and she married Alexander Guttenplan; they were the parents of my father, Murray Guttenplan. All are now gone, of course, and I find I know very little. Any leads you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much--Carol Rosenthal

Re: Enoch North

batsonsk — 2008-04-09 16:50:54Z

Hi my name is David Batson Etta is my grandmother I have some info contact me at batsondd@hotmail.com

Tks Dave Batson

Re: 2nd Lt. Howard C. Enoch Jr

RIP_08 — 2008-08-17 13:16:07Z

A direct link to the DoD news release may be found:

http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=1...

Re: ENOCH surname- Germany

janeta78 — 2008-01-29 13:31:00Z

I have read that this name - Enoch/s is Dutch and comes from
the name Enochson. However, my Enochs were in American in
the 1600's so not sure this is the same line as yours

Re: ENIX,ENEIX,ENOCH,ENOCHS,ENOCHSON

janeta78 — 2008-01-14 18:27:32Z

I am very much interested in the work done by Nancy Carter.
I just learned of her today and was so disappointed to have
my e-mail to her bounce back. I didn't know she was deceased until I read you message. Are any of her books
still available? I believe my family is from Gabriel thru
his son Enoch. My ancester was Samuel of Jackson County,
Tennessee.

Thanks so much
Janet Anderson janeta@edwardsglass.com

Beverly Enoch

brianenoch64 — 2008-05-16 17:38:17Z

Looking for information on a Beverly Enoch. Sister of Edwin J Enoch III and Kingsley B Enoch. Her parents were Edwin J Enoch II and Lillian Higgins. Born in the late 1920's to early 1930's. Beverly would be my father's aunt.

Thank you, Brian K. Enoch

ernest enoch

suerichardson152 — 2008-08-14 15:54:20Z

I understand Ernest Enoch emigrated to Saskatchewan around 1908 and am trying to trace his family

Sharon Enoch

monica_covell — 2008-10-07 13:20:08Z

Hello

My Name is Monica and I am looking for a cousin.
Her name maiden name is Sharon enoch. Her father is
Frank Enoch and her Mother is Marion. Sharon I think is
in the Virginia area. Her father frank lives in
Philadelphia. She married and her name change to Williams

Thank You
Monica Covell

Enoch Cemetery

sumpteraz — 2008-03-09 20:55:30Z

Democrat Twp carroll County In.

Re: looking for children/siblings of Madison C. Enoch

Bea_Coates — 2009-01-23 19:16:06Z

Please contact me at coates6405@aol.com Jeffrey. Would love to talk to you.

2nd Lt. Howard C. Enoch Jr

wstander — 2008-08-15 18:57:57Z

2nd Lt. Howard C. Enoch Jr. remains recovered after 63 years:

http://johnibiii.wordpress.com/category/p-51/

Another item:

Remains Of Missing WWII P-51 Pilot Identified
Wed, 13 Aug '08

To Be Buried At Arlington Next Month
The Department of Defense POW/Missing Personnel Office (DPMO) announced Tuesday the remains of a US serviceman, missing from World War II, have been identified and will be returned to his family for burial with full military honors.

He is 2nd Lt. Howard C. Enoch Jr., US. Army Air Forces, of Marion, KY. He will be buried September 22 in Arlington National Cemetery near Washington, DC.

Representatives from the Army met with Enoch's next-of-kin to explain the recovery and identification process and to coordinate interment with military honors on behalf of the Secretary of the Army.

On March 19, 1945, Enoch was the pilot of a P-51D Mustang that crashed while engaging enemy aircraft about 20 miles east of Leipzig, near the village of Doberschütz, Germany. His remains were not recovered at the time, and Soviet occupation of eastern Germany precluded his recovery immediately after the war.

In 2004, a team from the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC) surveyed a possible P-51 crash site near Doberschütz. The team found aircraft wreckage. In 2006, another JPAC team excavated the site and recovered human remains and aircraft wreckage.

Among other forensic identification tools and circumstantial evidence, scientists from JPAC and the Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory also used mitochondrial DNA in the identification of Enoch's remains.

For more info:

http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/

2nd Lt. Howard C. Enoch Jr

wstander — 2008-08-15 18:57:36Z

Re: Descendents of Samuel and Fannie (Ritter) Enoch

rnicolai128 — 2008-01-21 22:13:33Z

Please email me directly at doodaaakitty@yahoo.com
Thanks
Randi

Re: John ENOCH born 1845 Germany > England

ELLinSpain — 2008-07-21 12:55:56Z

Hello

quite possible that his dad was in the Army or Navy so have you tried military births?

what was dads occupation on the marriage cert?

Re: John ENOCH born 1845 Germany > England

halpark — 2009-01-31 23:39:57Z

I would suggest that it is extremely unlikely that the reason for him being born in Germany was that his father was in the army or navy - British army or navy in Germany in 1845? History! There was however a considerable amount of movement of tradespeople in both directions in the 19th century, so if his parents were living in Germany for those reasons he could be British through them. However tracing a birth would be almost impossible because German records are kept at local level, very often church records at that time, so if you have no idea where he was born you are stumped. There is also the possibility that he was German. Enoch is not unknown as a family name in Germany although not too common - there are 57 entries for Enochs in the German telephone book. However, the name James is not very Germanic. If you could get any line on a place that would be your best bet. Not much help I'm afraid but something more to think about.

Re: looking for children/siblings of Madison C. Enoch

corax57 — 2009-01-23 19:01:55Z

Hello,
My name is Jeffrey R Barker. My Mother is Janice (Enoch) Nofzinger. My Uncle was Madison Clay Enoch Jr. Would be glad to be of help any way I can.