Mark, this information comes from my late Uncle John Lafayette Johnston. He did have all the documentation as he visited several countries/churches over a 20 year period..prior to most home computers even being available. He is a member of sons of liberty and several other organizations that required proof of our ancestry. I know in my copy of the relationship list, those 2 people are listed as my 9th great grandparents. It lists several Uncles and Aunts.. Annetjen PIETERSZ bef 1609-?
Douwe Pietersz bef 1619-? Gerrit Pietersz bfe 1612-? I can send you the list of Aunts/Uncles of what I have..with Fonda and see if they match up. I will email this to you as well as post here.