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Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

suzannecresswell — 2012-06-11 15:54:58Z

Hi I just found your post on here using Google to research my family tree, and it would appear that your mother Marjorie is my Grandad, Albert Fowell's sister. Which I think makes you and my mum Carol cousins.

Suzy Cresswell

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

DorianGreenbaum — 2012-04-01 15:57:45Z

Hello!
I would love to exchange information with you. I have been able to get back reliably to Thomas Watts, bur 17 May 1707 of Hurst Farm, Berkeley. I have this Thomas's will. I believe I am a descendant of his son George of Alkington, d. 1721 and Elizabeth Ifield. I have quite a few Watts wills. It would be great to compare our notes.

Many thanks,
Dorian

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

DorianGreenbaum — 2012-04-01 14:58:57Z

Dear Beth,
I believe we are collaterally related. Your Charles Fowell Watts is a first cousin of my Charles Alfred Watts. Would love to exchange information with you about this family!

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

captainduncanwatts — 2012-04-01 02:28:20Z

George Watts, who married Anne Fowell (17m descent from Edward 1) had 2 brothers and one sister, Thomas who married Harriett Fowell, James who married Ann Wood and Mary who married John Farl(e). My husband Duncan of Alexandra Headland, Queensland Australia is 6th descendant of James. We have a Watts family pedigree dating back to John Watts of Berkeley (b.1684or 1634, most likely the former)

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

BethNZ1 — 2011-10-03 23:10:16Z

Hello

We may be connected .. I have a Charles Fowell WATTS and an Eliza Frances Caroline Granville AUDAIN on my tree - married in Bristol in 1822, but seem to have lived in Nettleton and Corsham, Wiltshire as well as Bristol and Bath. Two of their sons lived in New Zealand. Please get back to me if you think there is a connection ...

Beth

Re: Henry Fowell & Sarah Chawner.

susanchance67 — 2011-08-30 10:18:46Z

Hello thank you for your reply. My Henry Fowell was born in Cheadle in 1828. his parents were John Fowell & Hannah Rushton. i am also looking for the family of his brother Thomas Fowell born in 1817 in Cheadle. he married Martha Dawson. in 1839 in Cheadle. Henry and Thomas are the brothers of my 3xgreat grandfather William Fowell who came to West bromwich in the 1840's. thank you.

Re: Henry Fowell & Sarah Chawner.

maxinemoore658 — 2011-08-30 09:19:55Z

Hi If Henry was the son of Isaac and Martha, then on the 1861 census they are living with Isaac and they have a daughter Martha 10 months. I cannot find a birth for Martha in 1860,but on the 1871 census she is with her Mother Sarah who is a widow. There is a death for a Henry Fowell in 1862, which could be him. Hope this helps. Regards Maxine

Henry Fowell & Sarah Chawner.

susanchance67 — 2011-08-29 13:36:06Z

Henry Fowell m Sarah Chawner. in Cheadle in June 1858. I am looking for any children from this marriage.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

EarlJDavis — 2011-08-09 20:03:50Z

Hi Max. Anne's parents were Samuel Fowell and Martha Beardmore. Samuel and Anne were cousins. Like you I assume James, Emma and Hannah were born to this couple before they were married as there don't appear to be any other couples with these names in Cheadle at the time.

Earl.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

EarlJDavis — 2011-03-29 08:06:52Z

Hi Les.

Their grandfathers were brothers.

Samuel Fowell was the son of James Fowell and Hannah Smith and the grandson of Charles Fowell and Mary Shenton.

Anne Fowell was the daughter of Samuel Fowell and Martha Beardmore and grandaughter of Daniel Fowell and Bennit.

Charles and Daniel were sons of Adam Fowell and Jane Pickering.

Earl.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

LesSwain — 2011-03-29 00:16:57Z

Les Swain of Perth Western Australia - my mother Marjorie c 1917 was a Fowell related to James Fowell of Mill Lane b.1820

My research on this part of the family is relativly new and so far have connections to Samuel and Ann Fowell thru James.

On reading some of the communications it would appear that Samuel and Ann were Cousins . Can anyone relate who were Samuel Fowells parents and was Ann a Fowell also if so what part of the family ?

My mothers parents wer George Fowell b.1884 of Morley and Caroline Chapman b.1886 living in the Thurscoe District

Any information that relates to the family would be greatly appreciated

regards Les Swain

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

maxinemoore658 — 2011-02-08 11:44:59Z

Hi, My 2x Great Grandparents are Samuel and Ann Fowell, they had 7 children Daniel,Emma, James, Hannah, Martha, Charlotte and Eliza.On the 1841 and 1851 census they lived at Mill Lane Cheadle.I think that they might be the cousins who married, but the only marriage i can find is for 4/4/1829. They had 3 children before this marriage date, 1822,1826,1827 so i dont know if this marriage is correct.I wondered if they just lived as a married couple up until then, as they had the same surname anyway.Also i cant' find Ann's parents, there are so many Fowells it's very confusing.If anyone can help i would be very grateful.Thanks Max.

Re: FOWELL name in Canada

jf421 — 2010-11-10 15:07:19Z

Hi Kath, I believe so, but have no "hard" info. My great-father John Fowell (b.Woodstock 1841) was the second of 10 children. My line is concentrated in Ontario. I believe that offspring of one or more of that John's younger siblings, especially Henry, went West, but have not followed up in detail. Do we have a common ancestor in John Fowell & Sarah Corbet, my Great Grandfather John's parents? Hopefully someone from that line also has responded to you. Sorry that I can't be more helpful. John

Re: FOWELL name in Canada

samaleen — 2010-11-08 01:40:25Z

What about the Oak Lake Manitoba Fowell's, are they from a different line. Kath

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

susanchance67 — 2010-04-05 07:57:37Z

Hello my great grand mother was Harriat Louisa Fowell born in Wednesbury Staffordshire in 1878 to Sarah Wilks and Thomas Fowel this side of the family originated in Cheadle

Re: fowell of staffordshire

susanchance67 — 2010-04-01 06:47:54Z

Hello. were they all born in cheadle, i have got back to William Fowell born in 1648.best regards Sue.

Re: fowell of staffordshire

lindathomas7122 — 2010-03-31 20:11:41Z

Hi jacksue yes they were from cheadle must be a connection my tree is on ancestory uk

Re: fowell of staffordshire

susanchance67 — 2010-02-20 10:47:52Z

Hello India. I have Fowells in my tree. they come from Cheadle in Staffordshire. do we have a connection . best regards Sue.

fowell of staffordshire

lindathomas7122 — 2010-02-13 22:46:04Z

Hi
I am a desendent of thomas fowell abt1816 married to Ann unknown abt 1786
traced back from my
grandfather arthur 1905
george 1874
john 1848
thomas 1805
thomas 1811
thomas 1797
I cannot get any further back could anyone help me, also i do not have surnames for some of the wives

Re: FOWELL name in Canada

jf421 — 2010-02-07 20:25:55Z

I am a grandson of John Corbet Fowell and Edith Annette Watford. John C was the 3rd and youngest son of John M. Fowell (the agricultural implements dealer in Woodstock, ON) and Sarah Carroll/Carle/Ross and, as you probably know as well, second of 10 children of John Fowell (Plymouth, Eng, 1816) and Sarah Corbet.

I have been making good progress on my Fowell family tree through the excellent researchers at Oxford Cty G.S., and latterly through corresponding with a distant cousin (Henry Fowell, 8th child of John and Sarah)line.

In addition my own researching has taken me to various genealogical web sites, where I noticed your posting.

Are you still involved? Could we exchange information? A copy of the picture of John M in front of his agricultural implements store would be very much appreciated.

Sincerely yours,

John Fowell
Apt. 404 - 200 Rideau Terrace
Ottawa, ON

Re: ID Picture - Fowell, Fowles - Sylvan, WI & Guernsey, OH

HollyKurz6633 — 2009-11-30 17:33:09Z

I happened across your message when I began researching a newly added line to my Tidrick (Tiedrick, Tedrick etc.) family. William Taylor Fowell was married to Lavina Jane (Jennie) Ford the daughter of Thomas Ford and Keturah Tedrick. William's marriages and children have me very confused. Any clarification and information on the William Fowell family would be appreciated.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

nphelps24 — 2009-11-18 02:12:42Z

Thanks, Earl for your information. I shall continue onwards and upwards - or should I say backwards. Any other information that you might be able to provide re this line would be appreciated.

With thanks

Narissa

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

EarlJDavis — 2009-11-16 17:02:59Z

Hi Narissa.

I have a note that Thomas (husband of Millicent) was buried in 1843 aged 73 pointing to a baptism around 1770. I agree he was probably the son of John and Ann.

I think the Thomas born to Daniel and Bennit in 1765 married Phoebe Smith.

The only other possible is the Thomas (Fowell/Plant) bap in 1768.

Re: ID Picture - Fowell, Fowles - Sylvan, WI & Guernsey, OH

bharrisbs — 2009-10-15 05:23:33Z

I have more information on the Fowell's. My grandmother was
Lucy V. Waller who married Loren Glen Fowell. The twins are Geneva and Genona Fowell daughters' of William Taylor Fowell from his first marriage to Lavinia Jennie Ford. Lavinia Jennie Ford Fowell died after giving birth to Loren Glen Fowell March 26 1892. I will try to post more information as I have some of my grandmothers notes.
Charles W. Fowell is the son from William T. Fowell's second marriage.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

nphelps24 — 2009-08-19 04:50:17Z

I am a descendant of Elizabeth Fowell of Cheadle (22.8.1805) who married Thomas Goodwin. Elizabeth's ancestry, as I piece it together - early days yet!! - is:
Elizabeth - daughter of Thomas Fowell & Millissent
Thomas son of John and Ann nee Bowering
John son of Thomas and Ann nee Bennett
Thomas son of Thomas (1682)
Thomas son of Thomas and Mariae

All of course from Cheadle.

I come from Australia - a long way away. Would welcome feedback / contact.
Narissa

Susan Edward Jones

doug199atgooglemaildotcom — 2009-01-25 16:52:07Z

Which Fowell is looking for Susan? Doug

Re: fowell

rushd2 — 2008-07-01 10:10:38Z

hi mandy

i don't know whether you are contable by this system.

i've noted that chrisitine ( same e-mail address) is looking for relatives to thomas manders i am related to thomas

please reply

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

SARAHFOWELL — 2007-08-14 17:25:01Z

MY GRANDAD IS JAMES FOWELL HE LIVED IN KNUTTON NEWCASTLE UNDER LYME STAFFORDSHIRE

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

gailheeley11 — 2007-06-09 11:29:38Z

Thanks Earl

Have sent your post to Margaret who gave me the info and she is checking it out. Will let you know the result.

Regards
Gail

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

EarlJDavis — 2007-06-05 18:35:25Z

I should start this with a caveat that I have not fully researched this part of the family tree and have certainly never looked at the Bettany / Pearson connection before today.

If I had to take a guess at who you Ann Fowell MIGHT be I would be tempted to plump for the daughter of Thomas and Millicent FOWELL but proper research could overturn such a guess very easily.

‘Your’ Ann appears on the 1851 to 1881 census records and whilst there are some minor discrepancies in age this points to a birth at Cheadle of between 1808 and 1811 with an average of around 1810. Clearly the Ann married to William Pearson is not the daughter of Adam and Margaret as that Ann was bapt in 1777.

Vanity means it is not totally unusual for people on census returns to say they are younger than they actually are but 8 years seems something of a stretch and given that there is an Ann on census records who says she was born in 1802 (this the Ann who married her cousin Samuel Fowell).

So I think it highly unlikely (though not impossible) that ‘your’ Ann is the daughter of Samuel and Martha and that she is clearly not the daughter of Adam and Margaret.

Thomas and Millicent did have a daughter Ann bapt in 1810 at Cheadle. This ties with the date and place Ann gives for her birth on all subsequent census records.

Now I know an earlier poster said that Ann daughter of Adam and Margaret married David Bettany. Obviously you need to ask them about this as they may be privy to certain information. I wonder if some confusion may have been caused by this entry on the 1841 census…

1841 Mill Lane Fower (Fowell) William Na 60 Staffordshire
1841 Mill Lane Bettany Elizabeth Na 45 Staffordshire

William and Elizabeth are children of Adam and his 2nd wife Ellen Upton so I think it was Adam’s daughter Elizabeth who became a Bettany and not his daughter Ann.

This is the family of Thomas and Millicent on the 1841 census…

1841 High Street Fowell Thomas Na 70 Labourer Staffordshire
1841 High Street Fowell Millicent Na 65 Staffordshire
1841 High Street Fowell Joseph Na 35 Grocer Staffordshire
1841 High Street Fowell Edward Na 20 Staffordshire
1841 High Street Shenton James Na 20 Labourer Staffordshire
1841 High Street Shenton Dorothy Na 20 Staffordshire
1841 High Street Shenton Joseph Na 2 Staffordshire
1841 High Street Shenton Thomas Na 6m Staffordshire

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

gailheeley11 — 2007-06-05 09:36:25Z

Hi Earl

I haven't been researching for long so I have no cofirmation of this but I was told

William Pearson married Ann Bettany ( nee Fowell 12 .10.1831 in Cheadle Stafford she was the daughter of Samuel Fowell and Martha Beardmore born September 1802 died 1885. ( Ann Fowell married 1 David Bettany in 1827 and had a daughter Mary, presumably he died before 1831 ) William Pearson and Ann had a further 9 children, Hannah 1832 Cheadle, Margaret born1836 cheadle, Edwin born 1842 Darlington died 1893 Middlesbrough,William 1838, Joseph 1840, Caroline 1844 died 1844,Thomas 1850, Caroline Jane 1845 and Ann 1841. Thomas was my great grandfather.

I saw in the thread that the Anne Fowell that married David Bettany was the daughter of Adam Fowell and Margaret Thorly so am a little confused. May be you can shed some light

Regards
Gail

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

EarlJDavis — 2007-06-05 05:57:59Z

Hi Gail. I could be wrong but I always thought Anne Fowell married her 2nd cousin Samuel Fowell. On the 1851 census she can be seen at Mill Lane.

I am interested in the Pearson connection.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

gailheeley11 — 2007-06-04 07:55:54Z

Hi

My ggg grandparents were Samuel Fowell b.c1761 and Martha Beardsmore b. c1771 of Cheadle. Their daughter was Ann Fowell and she married William Pearson. Any help in tracing this line would be appreciated.

Thanks
Gail

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

ellarule — 2007-04-17 08:59:51Z

A lady called Julia Jones, nee Watts, wrote to me as follows:
Thomas Watts father and mother were John Watts born 1762 in Modbury, and Agnes Symons, born 1760, also I believe from Modbury. John Watts was a thatcher and the sexton of the church. They lived at 36 Brownstone Street, Modbury. Myself and my husband Steve visited Modbury at christmas but unfortunately the house was no longer there. We have visited Modbury church and graveyard and have found John's grave. We have also visited Ugborough and found the grave of Thomas,
She told me that much of this information came from the Sherriff family website but when I tried to access it, it was "under construction".
I'd be grateful for any Watts family information you have, and very happy to share with you whatever I have.
My email address is ellarule@gmail.com if you want to communicate direct.
Regards,
Ella

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

ellarule — 2007-04-17 08:55:40Z

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

patcheeseman1 — 2007-04-16 21:41:24Z

Hi Ella.

I didn't know that they were buried in Ughborough grave yard...a few years ago hubby and myself had the afternoon there and it was a beautiful day although I was looking for Stentafords.....
In about 1978 we started going to a caravan park in Modbury, and we loved it there. my dad died in 1988 and a few years later we went through his personal things.. to hard before. and found his parents names as he never spoke about them they died while he was at sea... well I traced back to Modbury I couldn't believe it. we had walked down the street where his ancestors lived...

Yes I have Thomas's siblings ..

Who on GR are you in contact with? reagrding Watts? sorry being nosey.

Pat

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

ellarule — 2007-04-16 21:20:05Z

Yes - nowadays Bedminster is a suburb of Bristol.

I have by the way heard through Genes Reuited from a lady in Wales who is descended from William Watts and his first wife, through one of their sons Alfred, who migrated to Wales to work in the coal fields.

Have you managed to trace all Thomas's brothers and sisters? I haven't been able to do much outside census and family records centre, neither of which are much help in tracing siblings, and of course Thomas et al predated those. I assume that you know the family moved to Ugborough and that Thomas and his wife Susannah are buried in the churchyard there.

There is a family story, for which I have been unable to find the slightest substantiation, that William Watts died fallling off the steeple of the church at Ugborough. Well, for a start this church has a tower not steeple and secondly the death certificate negates that theory. I did wonder, however, if one of William's thatcher relatives might have fallen off a roof at some point, and that this incident got transferred to William through faulty recollection - did you hear anything?

Do you know if there are any Wattses left in Modbury? I haven't visited it yet but must do so since clearly the family has a strong connection with it!

All the best,

ella

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

patcheeseman1 — 2007-04-16 20:55:19Z

Hi Ella.

Nice to hear from a rellie....
Well your Thomas is brother to Samuel who is my gt,gt,gt.grandfather who married Elizabeth Farley he also was a master thatcher....

Is Bedminster....Bristol way?

Pat

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

ellarule — 2007-04-16 07:26:39Z

Yes. William Watts was my great grandfather, born in Ugborough in 1825 if I remember rightly. He married twice, the first wife being Ann Horswill. At some point they moved from Ugborough to Bedminster. After Ann died, William married Mary Pike. He had lots of children by Ann Horswill, but only two with Mary Pike, Ernest and Frank. Ernest died in infancy. Frank Watts was my grandfather. He married Jessie Pickles from Yorkshire and they had two children Joan and Peter. Joan, who married Carlos Martinez, had three children, including me.

I understand that Thomas Watts, my great great grandfather was a master thatcher, as were his father and grandfather, both named John, and all of whom were based in Modbury but I don't have any documentation on this and would love some help in tracing this.

Incidentally, how is it that we are related?

My email address is ellarule@gmail.com

Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards,

Ella (Eloisa)

Re: Fowells in Devon, Bath

patcheeseman1 — 2007-04-14 22:09:39Z

HI Ella

I have a gt.gt.gt uncle... Thomas Watts born Modbury married to Susannah Dodderidge.. who had a son William...

Do you think there is a connection?

Pat

Re: FOWELL name in Canada

lyndsey26 — 2006-08-05 14:07:01Z

Does anyone know of any descendents of John and Sarah Fowell's daughter Mary Jane?

Mary Jane married John Wilson in Oxford County on 6 Sep 1876.

I have them in the 1911 census (in Woodstock, Oxford County, Ontario) , but I don't know where they are in 1901. Anybody know?

I am researching John Wilson's side.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

MichaelJones37 — 2006-07-25 10:48:19Z

Janet,

My wife is interested in this family connection. Are you aware of the Fowells' connection with the Abbotts Bromley Horn Dance? Have you any idea who the biological father of William Fowell could be? The birth certificate is blank in that field.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

2006-07-22 18:24:57Z

Have received the marriage certificate, but William Bently is down as William Fowell's father. In fact, he was his step father. So, I'm no further forward in finding out who William Fowell's father was (his birth certifiacte has that field blank).

Have made further progress with Lucy Rock's parents. I have a copy of their marriage certificate in 1847, and now know names of their parents. That's as far as I've got so far.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

2006-07-20 19:12:10Z

Any better luck on the Lucy Rocke marriage, Michael?

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

MichaelJones37 — 2006-07-11 21:03:09Z

As an update - I have received a copy of William Fowell's birth cetificate. Ther is a gap wher the father's name should be. I am now awaiting a copy of his marriage certificate to Lucy Rock.

Fowell in Pennsylvania (1800s)

QueenCaffeine — 2006-07-01 04:52:15Z

Seeking information on a Mr. Fowell who allegedly married Emmaline Emerson in about 1830 in Pennsylvania. They allegedly had two children, George Fowell & Marie Fowell.

Any verification would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

@@EarlJDavis@aol.com — 2006-06-15 20:15:33Z

Ok, Adam Fowell was buried on 4th April 1820 which pinpoints him as the son of Charles FOWELL and Mary Shenton.

Adam appears to have married twice. In 1777 to Margaret THORLEY at Draycott to which union Ann FOWELL was born. He then appears to have married Ellen UPTON Checkley in 1779 to which union at least 8 children were born.
Next step is to find Margaret Thorley (Fowell's) burial record.

Regards Earl.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

@@EarlJDavis@aol.com — 2006-06-15 20:15:33Z

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

@@EarlJDavis@aol.com — 2006-06-15 20:15:33Z

Could this be your Ann from the 1851 Census?

1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Thomas Head M 46 Labourer Stone
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Mary Wife M 45 Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Ann Daur U 17 Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell William Son 12 Scholar Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell John Son 3 Scholar Cheadle

Thomas married Mary Smith in 1839 and the certificate say he is the son of Thomas, a Farmer.

Earl.

Re: Fowell of Cheadle in Staffordshire

@@EarlJDavis@aol.com — 2006-06-15 20:15:33Z

I am not yet sure who the parents of Thomas are. In 1851 he was a close neighbour of many of the other Fowell's who were living at Cheadle Common. The Cheadle Common 1851 group were...

542 1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Thomas Head M 46 Labourer Stone
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Mary Wife M 45 Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Ann Daur U 17 Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell William Son 12 Scholar Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell John Son 3 Scholar Cheadle

543 1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Samuel Head M 40 Labourer Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Alice Wife M 38 Cheadle

543 1851 Cheadle Common Fowell John Head M 40 Farm Labourer Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Elizabeth Wife M 40 Cheadle

543 1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Isaac Head M 60 Farmer 16 Acres Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Martha Wife M 55 Derbyshire ?
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell George Son U 27 Farmers Son Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Henry Son U 18 Farmers Son Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Hannah Daur 14 Farmers Daur Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Dinah Grand Daur 4 Cheadle
1851 Cheadle Common Fowell Edith Grand Daur 1 Cheadle

Thomas Not sure who the parents of Thomas were,
Samuel - baptism not found but he was the son of Samuel per marriage certificate
John Not sure who the parents of John were
Isaac - Son of George, name in his fathers Will.

Both Issac and Samuel were related both being descendants of Adam (1687-1760).

Earl.