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Books on the Frost Family

StellaS77 — 2009-11-06 23:03:06Z

Greetings,

I just found a new online bookstore that gives away FREE SEARCHABLE CD-ROM with the purchase of any family history book, they have over 20,000 titles to choose from, I just tought that I will pass it along to you.

Their address is www.ancestralbooks.com

Books that I was able to find from their website for my research:

Frost Family Chronicles. - by Mower, Walter L.
n/a , 1951

Frost Genealogy in Five Families - by Frost, Norman S.
West Newton, MA , 1926

Genealogical Frost Record. 1635-1906 - by Frost, Charles S.
n/a , 1906

Genealogy of the Frost Family: Elliot, York County, Maine - by Parsons, Usher
Providence, RI , 1852

Supplement to the Frost Genealogy - by Frost, Josephine
New York, NY , 1914

The Frost Family in England - by Frost, Thomas G. & Edward L.
Buffalo, NY , 1909

The Frost Genealogy. - by Doane, Alfred A
Yarmouth, NS, Canada , 1910

The Frost Genealogy. Descendants of William Frost of Oyster Bay, New York. Showing Connections Never Before…. - by Frost, Josephine C.
New York, NY , 1912

The Frosts and Related Families of Bedford County, Tennessee… - by Frost, Wright W.
Knoxville, TN , 1962

The Nicholas Frost Family - by Frost, John Eldridge
Milford, NH , 1943

Re: Wellington and Mary Decendants

BillTatlow — 2009-11-06 10:49:55Z

My grand father was Fred Tetlow (name changed to Tatlow about 1900) born about 1881 in the Glossop region of England. Have just posted my family tree under Tetlow Tatlow on this site. Bill

Re: Pauline (Dillard) Frost

RGraves12 — 2009-10-26 02:14:06Z

Pauline Dillard Frost was my uncle Joe's mother. Please email me at RobbieGraves@Hotmail.com

Re: looking for Frosts

sailortech — 2009-10-13 20:00:51Z

You are welcome. And thanks for being open for advice.

Re: looking for Frosts

cfmehcfmeh — 2009-10-13 19:46:13Z

Thank you for the tips. I will be back with a more detailed post. Thanks again.

Re: looking for Frosts

sailortech — 2009-10-13 11:07:29Z

Well, telling us where they lived at a certain time would be a great help. Are you looking in England, Maine or Ohio or someplace else?

Also in the future, in the subject line, try and put in either the years or location. Such as "Looking for Frosts, Ohio 1880s".

looking for Frosts

cfmehcfmeh — 2009-10-12 21:01:11Z

I'm not sure how to do this. I am looking for any info on Frost family members. Here is what I have: Louis Frost, born 1885. His father was James Frost, died 1890, who was married to Alice Hackney who died in 1891. Her siblings were Richard and Frank. James' sibling was Richard. James and Alice's children were Ida Wheatfill, James and Louis. I cannot find anything further back on these people.

Re: Henry Cooper Frost

frostyice131 — 2009-09-30 02:40:56Z

HI there

Just wanted to give you information regarding the Frost lineage. James Cooper Frost was my great great grandfather. he had a son named Thomas (Kome) who then had a daughter named Masae who is my grandmother. I think there is a lot of confusion about the family ties as it is believed that James cooper frost was married to Eliza Fretton (or Alaisa) but there is alot to fix and sought out. I would love to keep in touch and exchange information as I am trying very hard to piece thigns together. take care and hope to hear from you soon.

Re: Decesendant's of Edmund Frost.

frostym1954 — 2009-09-27 22:27:59Z

I will ask my Dad when I talk to him again. He was in the Army Air Corp as a Staff Sargeant and my Uncle was in the OSS.

Re: Searching for living Edmund Frost (1593) relatives

frostym1954 — 2009-09-27 22:04:42Z

I am a decendant of Edmond Frost (1593) through the John Frost (1632).

Re: Decesendant's of Edmund Frost.

jlfrost761 — 2009-09-26 19:17:07Z

I have a Walter Edmund Frost who was a Cpl in WWII, i was wondering if at all they were related, i have him born in Rochester, NY.

Re: Decesendant's of Edmund Frost.

frostym54 — 2009-09-26 03:53:35Z

My father's name is Vernon Eugene Frost and his brother's names were George, Jerome and James Wayne Frost. James Wayne always went by Wayne.

Re: Decesendant's of Edmund Frost.

jlfrost761 — 2009-09-25 23:31:47Z

I am curious, what is your father and his brothers name?

Sherman Goodrich (Frost)

DBJ2039 — 2009-09-21 12:57:43Z

My dad's half brother was adopted out when young. He was born Sherman Frost to Clara and Albert Frost. After his father was killed, his mother was told that she could not afford to take care of all the family and was advised to put a couple up for adoption.

I recently was told that Sherman was adopted by Mary Ann Goodrich and raised in that family.

Does ANYONE know the facts regarding this adoption. I would love to know as I have done extensive research on my family and what happened to him is still a mystery.

Thank you in advance.

Decesendant's of Edmund Frost.

frostym1954 — 2009-09-14 00:34:16Z

I have traced my ancestory back to Edmund Frost born in Ipswick, Essex, Suffolk, England in 1583 and died in Cambridge, Mass in 1672. I am trying to research whether any of my ancestors served in the Military. I have records for my father and his brother who both served in WWII, but cannot find any record of anyone earlier serving during the Revolutionary, Civil and WWI wars. If anyone has any info please contact me directly at frostym54@hotmail.com

Samuel Frost of Sedgley, England?

shannoncreamer1 — 2009-09-11 18:49:31Z

The information I have:

Married Mary Westwood on June 12, 1780, in Sedgley, England.

Had at least one daughter, named Jane Frost, born before October 1791. Jane married Stephen Elwell on January 28, 1811 in St Peter or Collegiate Church, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England.

Would anybody have anything more?

Thank you in advance.

Hugh Redvers Frost

repunzul — 2009-09-10 04:41:03Z

Looking to make contact with anyone who may have Hugh Redvers Frost in their family line, or information about him. He was born in Canada, but served as Mayor of Burlington from 1945-1959.

Thank you,
Debi Coe

Frost,Dawkins,Scott

JohnSCPO — 2009-09-09 00:23:12Z

Looking for any info on the following people Jesse Dawkins,Charlie Frost Dawkins, Eliz Frost, and Doria Scott. Jesse Dawkins married Elizabeth Frost Had a son named Charlie Frost Dawkins born abt 1873 He married a Doria Scott in 1896, Doria was born abt 1874

Re: Frost-Nova Scotia

RPalmer835 — 2009-05-18 18:21:04Z

Hi

I will go through my records and see if I can help you.

I just pulled out two bookd by Leonard and Norma Smith on Nova Scotia Immigrants.

In Nova scotia Immigrants to 1867 Vol. 1 It lists a William Whitehouse with the following information which I am writing word for word. B? Brooklyn NY 6 Oct., 1778 d, Argyle 18 Feb. 1855 which he toom from "Queries" Nova Scotia Genealogist, 6:3 (Fall 1988) p. 178

Not sure it is the same William Whitehouse- but it might be some connection,

I will get back to you soon with any other information.

Jill Goodwin Palmer

Death of Mr. Arthur W. Frost in the Dominican Republic

davwayell — 2009-07-18 23:06:27Z

Anyone interested in a copy of the U.S. Department of State's "Report of the Death of an American Citizen" for Mr. Arthur W. Frost, please contact me so I can conduct research to locate the record. Mr. Frost died in the Dominican Republic on December 18, 1936.

Dave Ellison
davwayell@aol.com

Re: arthur frost b.1822 transported to tasmania 1836

penwheatley_1 — 2009-06-06 07:05:56Z

Does your arthur frost track down to a John Frost who married an ellen bonney in 1884? If so I would dearly love any details you may have on them.

Missing Rockwoods and rockwoods who legally changedtheir names

sandraruscetta — 2009-05-22 22:29:53Z

Found this in book two of vivianrockwood's genealogy, lists in fact pages of lost Rockwoods, gives cities and states where they resided but, contact with family was lost.

Also, there are about 6 that changed their names.

Sandi Rockwood Ruscetta

Re: Frost

sandraruscetta — 2009-05-18 18:42:47Z

Hi, I do want to know about my grandfather's great, great, great, enough greats, Hannah, cannot explain why,,these women were unbelieveable.

Sandi

Re: Frost

sandraruscetta — 2009-05-17 14:17:36Z

Hi, could the Whitehouse family have any connection to the Whitehouses in Rhode Island? Old English Family, I think Pilgrims also, in fact Senator Sheldon W, and is the Senator is the Senator from Rhode Island

Sandi
Mass

Frost in Allen and Monroe County Kentucky

tonyagentry43 — 2009-05-28 02:49:04Z

I am a descendant of Harvey James Frost and Settie Pearl Loyd of Kentucky. If anyone has any info that might be of help please let me know. My e mail is tonyagentry43@yahoo.com. Thanks in advance.

FROST Marion E 1933-1962

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-08 15:14:10Z

FROST Marion E 1933-1962

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 204,880 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

FROST Roxie W and John Herbert

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-06 22:13:47Z

FROST Roxie W and John Herbert

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 204,880 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Robert Frost

mycv1956 — 2009-06-06 20:16:31Z

I too am a descendant of Robert Frost. His father was Simeon Frost and his father was Robert Frost also. If you would like more info please reply to my email rmiles7883@aol.com (I was adopted in 1959 but born Richard Allan Frost)

Re: Elisha Frost - correction !

mycv1956 — 2009-06-06 20:11:57Z

I was born Richard Allan Frost, one of 9 children born to Harold Loyd Frost and Trilba Loraine Davis, and a descendant of the frosts of Owsley county Ky. Just as my brother Ron did, I ran into a brick wall at Robert Frost. The owsley county records were burned in a fire a long time ago, and we haven't been able to go any further. I was separated for 20 years from my family, and my research was able to locate them while I was stationed in Iwakuni, Japan in 1974.

Re: Frost-Nova Scotia

drrfrost1 — 2009-06-17 20:34:40Z

The following is my family tie-in

Enoch Charles Frost (grandfather)
Samuel G. Frost
Andrew Frost

m. Bertha Whitehouse
John Whitehouse m. Ellenor Forbes
William Whitehouse m. Ann Crowell
William Whitehouse m. Mercy Roberts

I have a similar problem in that Samuel G. Frost (Enoch's father) was brought up by a Crosby in Argyle. The only possible reason I have come up with is that there was an Andrew Frost who moved from Yarmouth to Rockport MA. His wife died when Samuel would have been 12. My thought is he may have returned to NS rather than stay in MA.

I do remember several of the children of John Whitehouse and I also remember one relative saying that the family' original name was White and that they lived on "Cape Cod" (which originally included Plymouth) and people asking for directions were told to turn at the White house. Don't know how true that is.

Richard

Re: Frost-Nova Scotia

drrfrost1 — 2009-08-25 12:26:26Z

I think we're talking about two different people. My grandmother, Bertha Whitehouse , was married to Enoch Charles Frost. She was born 17 Feb 1883 and died between 1964 and 1967, I don't have the exact date. I do know she was one of 10 or 11 children. I remember a Whitehouse farm in Brazil lake where her brother Osborne lived. Whether that was the family farm or not, I don't know. I know I have other White house info and I will dig that out.

While my grandfather Enoch made a single move to the states and then back to Nova Scotia, my father went back and forth sveral times a year following jobs during the depression (NS-ME-MA-ME-NS)

Please feel free to email me directly

drrfrost@verizon.net

Richard

Sydney Charles Frost & Ernest Stanley Frost.

trishfro99 — 2009-08-26 20:38:06Z

Looking for any information on brothers Sydney Charles and Ernest Stanley Frost. Both born at 108 Kilburn Park Road, Kilburn, N.London, England. Sydney born 1916 and Ernest 1919. The sons of Arthur Frank and Helen Frost nee Still. Mother Helen died in 1922 and the family was split up. Any information appreciated.

Elizabeth Frost

eleanorgahr — 2009-08-12 19:23:34Z

I am looking for any information on Elizabeth Frost, born about 1843 in Southwark. She married Thomas J Woolls, born 1842 in London. Their children were: Thomas Woolls, Henry George Woolls, Elizabeth Woolls, Agnes C Woolls, Amy Louisa Woolls, Frederick Arthur Woolls and Ethel Rosa Woolls.

Re: Mina Frost born 1880 Morrow County Ohio

jseni1952 — 2009-08-24 23:27:48Z

Have you found any info yet on Mina Frost?
Do you know who William E. Wislon's father was?
Do you know when Mina and William died?
If you want to email me direct my email is jseni1952@yahoo.com

FROST Lillian G and Ray N

t42Parkdale — 2009-05-25 17:11:16Z

FROST Lillian G and Ray N

I photographed this gravestone in the Parkdale Cemetery, Arlington, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 203,767 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here,instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Hannah Frost b 1748 CT

azitka — 2009-08-19 21:24:31Z

I, too, am interested in Hannah Frost if you have information. I am a descendant from Hannah Frost and Nathan Prindle. I have been hitting a brick wall with her side of the family.

Re: looking for pictures - Frost in Alabama

maverlyfam02 — 2009-06-23 19:53:30Z

If this offer is still open, I'd love to take you up on it! my email is maverlyfam@yahoo.com
I'm also willing to send you the info that I have on my "branch"

FROST Peggy R

t42GreenAcres_JohnsonCoTX — 2009-08-30 22:46:49Z

FROST Peggy R

The Johnson County Genealogical Society photographed this gravestone in the Green Acres Cemetery, Cleburne, Johnson Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 206,332 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

FROST Derrell V 1933 2000

t42GreenAcres_JohnsonCoTX — 2009-08-27 16:37:30Z

FROST Derrell V 1933 2000

The Johnson County Genealogical Society photographed this gravestone in the Green Acres Cemetery, Cleburne, Johnson Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 206,332 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Emma & Annie Frost, Newton Abbot, Devon

hollybisson — 2009-07-27 11:56:08Z

Hello,

Have hit a huge wall on researching my Grandfather's mother, Emma Louisa Frost, born 29 May 1881 in Newton Abbot Union Workhouse, Devon. Her mother was named Annie Frost and Emma had no father listed on her birth certificate.

This is the only information we have. Does anyone have links to these people and could provide more info? Particularly on Annie?

Any help would be very much appreciated

Mina Frost born 1880 Morrow County Ohio

minaraulston — 2009-08-16 03:16:23Z

I am looking for information about the immediate family of my grandmother. Her name was Mina Frost. She was born 11/5/1880 and she was a twin. The probate court only has a birth certificate for a Minnie Belle Frost which may have been her twin sister.
I have an old family portrait with her and my grandfather, William Elsworth Wilson, with her siblings, their spouses, two maiden sisters and her parents.
I remember attending a family reunion with my father and his half sister Pearl Grisson about 1968.
I have information that a Major Frost may be Mina's father.
Please contact me with any information you have on my grandmother's family. My email address is m_raulston@hotmail.com

Frost

mumanddad123 — 2009-06-12 13:58:07Z

Looking for information on my grandfather Thomas Henry Frost and relatives. Born in Essex UK 1894 and died in Australia in 1949. Had a sister Ada McLeod (nee Frost) who lived at brabazgon St London. I am confident he had family migrate to Canada, I think Edmonton and or Saskatoon. Father was poss William Henry Frost.

No idea what im doing and spent a fortune learning so any and all help would be most appreciated.

Please feel free to email me at filterdrycleaners@bigpond.com

Thanks plenty
Thomas Frost

Re: Ada Frost Manchester area uk

mumanddad123 — 2009-06-11 14:17:13Z

Dont know if it will be of any use but had an Ada Frost who was a sister to my grandfather thomas henry frost from essex uk. He was born in 1892. Aside from this despite my efforts cant find any more info on the other than he migrated to australia (where I am) and other relatives went to canada. Ada stayed in the uk.

Hope its of assistance, if its the same family would love for you to contact me at filterdrycleaners@bigpond.com
Thanks THomas Frost

Re: Frank or Willis FROST

huntergirl42153 — 2009-06-17 22:09:30Z

Would Willis be from Allen County Ky.I would like to have a copy of the pic. you can send it to huntergirl42153@yahoo.com

Sabrina

Re: Frost-Nova Scotia

janweems — 2009-06-20 21:34:13Z

Hi Richard,

Thanks for replying! My grandfather Arthur Jackson Whitehouse had a first cousin, William Whitfield Whitehouse who lived at Sharp Point, on Roberts Island, Glenwood, NS. My dad remembered visiting the family when he was young and summering on the Island...Whitfield's sisters were named Evangeline, Emma Belle, Emily and Bertha. Dad was born in 1918, so they were all older than he. Would this be the Bertha Whitehouse who married your Andrew Frost? I have many pictures left to me by my grandmother, Emma Louise Whitehouse (AJW's wife) and my dad ID'd many of them before his death, along with tentative dates and time periods. Do you have the dates of birth, marriages, deaths and so on for the folks you mentioned? Mercy Roberts is my g-g-g grandmother, so I guess we are related through her and William.

I never knew the people my dad grew up with, (although I did write to Evangeline a few times about her quilt-making, when I was in high school!) Never met any of the family until after my dad died, and we made a trip to NS with his ashes. Few left by then, and not a Whitehouse in sight...some Rickers, Morrells, Crowells and others.

I know my grandpa Arthur went to Boston as a young man, and worked in a restaurant owned by his father's sister Ida Belle and her husband Archie Morrell, for a time, among other jobs. Seems like a lot of people moved back and forth between NS and MA in those days as your Andrew Frost did. Our Loyalist ancestors, William Whitehouse and others probably left the US under a cloud, but the hard feelings had calmed down enough by their grandchildren's time to let them do this I suppose.

About Whitehouses on Cape Cod, maybe there were some there...my gramma Em's family came from there, her father was William B. Nickerson, and his family settled the town of Chatham back in fifteen hundred and something ! I don't know how Emma and Arthur met, but probably through some family member. All the information I have found about the name was always under Whitehouse...maybe someone shortened it to White at some point. Do you have any clue to the parents of William Whitehouse of Roberts Island? My dad was sure that they came from Dover, NH...it is just a short hop to Kittery, ME where the Loyalist families all seemed to head out from. We met a Robert Whitehouse, now deceased, in Dover in 1994 on our way to NS, who looked amazingly like my late dad, mannerisms and all. Dad had never met him, but had written to him a few times, trying to figure out the family connections. This is all frustrating at times but fascinating too ! Jan (Whitehouse) Weems

Re: Frost

janweems — 2009-05-18 18:15:09Z

Just FYI, I don't believe there were any Whitehouses on the Mayflower, but a cousin of mine found information about the earliest Whitehouse to arrive in the US....Thomas Whitehouse, and his son, Pomfret Whitehouse appear in the area of Dover, NS, about 1653, perhaps earlier. We think there is a connection to the mysterious William Whitehouse of Nova Scotia, that he is descended somehow from Thomas, but have not been able to find the link. If memory serves, Thomas came from the area of Norwich, England....(as did the Nickersons). Jan

Re: Frost

janweems — 2009-05-18 18:08:35Z

Hi Sandi,
I am not sure about who is connected to whom, but I THINK my grandmother was born in Rhode Island, Nov. 10,1893. She was Emma Louise Nickerson, (her father, William B. Nickerson, was born in Harwich, MA) later she lived in Cambridge, MA and married Arthur Jackson Whitehouse. He was born Roberts Island, Glenwood, Yarmouth County, Nova Scotia 1883, and moved to the US as a young man, became a citizen around 1910...? Perhaps there was a family connection there, as there are many Nickersons living in Nova Scotia as well as the US....I am not sure how they met. Perhaps they were related. Sorry this is so vague, but all my information is sort of buried at the moment, we just moved! Jan

Re: Frost-Nova Scotia

janweems — 2009-05-18 17:58:55Z

Hi Jill,
I am looking for information, records, family legends, whatever you might have about my g-g-g-grandfather, WILLIAM WHITEHOUSE of Roberts Island, Glenwood, Nova Scotia. He was born about 1781, and according to family legend, came from NH or ME with his parents to Shelburne, NS, with a number of other Loyalist families as an infant or young child. SOMETHING happened to his parents, and he was "adopted by the family of Jeremiah Frost" and taken to Argyle, NS. This is according to a book written by Abner Jackson Ricker, 1941, A HISTORY OF GLENWOOD AND THE ARGYLLES. No mention is made of who his parents were, where they migrated from, what happened to them, etc. Many descendants of WILLIAM WHITEHOUSE are trying to locate ANY information about this man, since without it, we have no real idea where we came from! Apparently there was not a legal adoption, as William kept the Whitehouse name. He was raised in Argyle, lived out his life on Roberts Island, Glenwood, NS. He married 1st AZUBA LOVITT, had one child, married 2nd MERCY ROBERTS (my g-g-g-grandma) and had another 13 children. Last, he was married to MIRIAM FROST, an adopted sister. William died around 1851 ? (not sure, don't have all my info at hand !!) Another researching member of the Whitehouse family found some information about a former British soldier Joseph(?) Whitehouse, who married Hannah___? and apparently left the US after the Revolution. There was some record of Hannah being involved in a land dispute....common enough if you remained a Loyalist after the Revolution. Many people were persecuted and driven from their land and possessions, sometimes killed outright. At any rate, they ended up on a list of "Shelburne's Poor"...perhaps they were William's parents? I feel sure that Hannah, or whoever William's mother was, was a Frost... perhaps one or both of them died and William was then raised by the Jeremiah Frost clan....can you give me any help here? Thank you, Jan (Whitehouse) Weems sabrakatz@hotmail.com

Re: Susan Frost

janweems — 2009-05-18 17:10:17Z

Hi Sandi,
Thanks, I appreciate any help! Who is the Hannah that you mentioned? Someone else dug up some info that referred to a Hannah being the wife of a Joseph Whitehouse...perhaps the people we are all looking for. William was born about 1781, so his parents would probably have been born somewhere between 1740-1760. That leaves a lot of space I know, but I am still reasonably sure that William Whitehouse's parents, whoever they were, came from New Hampshire, where the first Whitehouse's settled, around 1650, and perhaps later moved to Maine. This is simply due to a word-of-mouth tradition passed down in my father's family....Dad's great-uncle, Abner Jackson Ricker published a book in 1941, A History of Glenwood and the Argylles, and mentioned the adoption of William Whitehouse by the Frosts, and gave some history of Jeremiah and other Frosts, but he left a lot of gaps. If there was Loyalist/Patriot division among the families, (or even religious differences) that would have been a good reason for g-g-g-grandfather William's parents to head for Nova Scotia and their families may have written them off for good, destroyed any personal records of them, etc. Feelings ran pretty high during the Revolution (just as they did later, during the Civil War) and if they lost their land and possessions for remaining loyal to the king, where else could they go? Public/Court/Church records may hold an answer somewhere, or there is a key still held by the Frost family.
My feeling is that our William's mother was almost certainly a Frost...hence, his being raised by the Jeremiah Frost family ...he was never officially adopted that we know of, so perhaps his father was still alive and could not raise the child due to illness, extreme poverty, etc. Please let me know if you find anything that might be helpful! Thanks, Jan

Re: Frost-Nova Scotia

janweems — 2009-05-18 18:52:56Z

Hi Jill, thank you very much....this could be the one. No one seems too sure of WW Birthdate, it could very well be 1778. And someone else mentioned Brooklyn in connection with WW, but I thought they referred to Brooklyn, Nova Scotia, where there are also records of Whitehouses..... If William's father was a soldier, it is certainly possible he lived in NY even if he was born somewhere else. Is there any mention at all of his forbears? Thank you so much and please keep in touch....I am trying to keep track of everyone I connect with but my computer is giving me attitude and refusing to print anything just now!! Thanks, Jan