My mother is Barbara Gay Kuper. Her mother is Beatrice Billups Gay. Her father was Walter Horne Gay. His father was Redman M. Gay born about 1828 in North Carolina (family stories say Rocky Mount). I believe his father was Kinchen Gay. His father was Isham Gay. Kinchen had the following children: Redman, William T., Kinchen Jr., Joseph, and Edith (who marrked John Crone from Goldsboro, North Carolina). Redman had the following children: Walter Horne, Joe William, James Redman, Thomas Ben, Charles Albert, Adelaide Virginia (married Minson Jones), William Allen, Archer B. Redman, George Pittman. These children were born from around 1850s to 1860s. If anybody out there fits in this family, please reply.