Grammer - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: GRAMMERs in West Virginia and Ohio

grammerdan2 — 2009-10-25 12:16:17Z

I am trying to Reach Deborah Grammer, who posted here in 2006. The e-mail address I have for her does not seem to work. I have some picture of her father and grandfather I would like to share with her.

Is James G. Grammer really the son of Joseph Grammer?

theresaanngrammer — 2009-10-09 18:19:20Z

My goal is to confirm the father of James. I've collected documents, but feel that I don't have enough data to make a confident connection. This is why I've turned to doing the surname DNA testing.

To confirm that James is indeed the son of Joseph, we would need another Grammer male descendant to do the surname DNA test.

There are many companies out there that do the surname test, and I'm wondering if any other Grammer male descendants has done a surname test. I would like to compare results with any other Grammer surname test results. Please email me at theresagrammer@cox.net

In case anyone has been thinking about doing a y-dna test to confirm your surname line but is worried about the test revealing health implications, I want to let you know that this is not the case. That information is found if you ran the full mt-dna sequence. The y-dna surname test doesn't provide information about health issues.

Background on the James G. Grammer line:

James G. Grammer, born 1800-1810 in TN and died after 1880, married Elizabeth Grizzle on 11/17/1834 in Tuscaloosa, AL. They had the following children:

John E. Grammer, abt 1836 - unknown death
Joseph W. Grammer, abt 1837 - died sometime after 1880
Curtis C. Grammer, 04/23/1838 - 04/12/1914
Charles McCloude Grammer, 09/18/1840 - 12/19/1897
Benjamin Franklin Grammer, 08/25/1842 - 05/19/1908
Lucinda Caroline Grammer, abt 1845 - unknown death

My connection to him is through his son, Charles.

Re: John Grammer, VA.

jmfiorini — 2009-08-27 15:41:55Z

Hi:
I have heard through my family that we are related to a John Grammer of Blandford Church in Petersburg, VA. I have a family tree that starts with William Grammer who married Cora Lee Clarke. These would be my great grandparents. My grandfather was Wilson Grammer born in 1913. From what I was told William & Cora Lee moved to Baltimore, MD.
Do you have anything on a Grammer family that left Petersburg for Baltimore. I would like to trace my family back further than William & Cora Lee. If you have any information please let me know.

Cheryl (Grammer) Fiorini

GRAMMER Raymond Orville and Lillie

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-11 01:25:08Z

GRAMMER Raymond Orville and Lillie

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GRAMMER Thomas H 1879-1947

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-10 00:17:59Z

GRAMMER Thomas H 1879-1947

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GRAMMER Ruby 1900-1989

t42MountOlivet — 2009-08-10 00:17:47Z

GRAMMER Ruby 1900-1989

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Re: William C. GRAMMER of Alabama/Texas

NormaChurch35 — 2009-08-08 22:10:40Z

My gg grandfather was also William Calvin Grammer.b 1832
in Alabama,moved to Itawamba co Mississippi.I can't find
1850 census records so I don't know where he was at that time
He married Susan Malinda Rhyne daughter of Jacob Rhyne and Sally Hope.They split up between 1870 and 1880.In 1880
Susan and her children were living in Delta Texas except
Josephine Elizabet " Josie " Grammer,who was married at the time.I also can't find 1880 census on William C.
iN 1879 he married Nancy Sabetha Salmon from Pontotoc co Ms.
They made their home in Lafayette co Ms.
This is my problem,I can't find William C'S parents.
He & Frances Marion Grammer appeared at the same time
on 1860 census in Itawamba co along with the 3 Grammer brothers from Alabama.Could they also be sons .Someone said their father died and their mother went back to France and left them with a relative.Do you know if this is true"
William didn't go to Texas as far as I know,only his family.
My e-mail nchurch38671@aol.com Norma

Lavina Grammer and Alfus Daniels

scooter389 — 2009-08-05 01:17:46Z

I'm looking for information on Lavina Grammer b. 1867 dau of John Grammer and Cynthia Gulley.
Lavina married Alfus Daniels Jan 15 1891 son of John Daniels and Elizabeth Tryee.
I found them in the 1900 census Franklin Co IL but I can't find them anywhere after that.

The children I have found are:
Azola F Daniels
Lizzie m. Bert Eakle (can't find them after 1910)
John
Arnold Nelson death date April 30 1972 for Nelson
Nona

all born IL

Hope someone else is searching and willing to share.

Nancy Bowers
www.gulleyville.com
lakota@gulleyville.com

ADKINS Dorothy Mae GRAMMER 1908-2002

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-08 12:58:13Z

ADKINS Dorothy Mae GRAMMER 1908-2002

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GRAMMER Houston Sr 1904-1973

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:12:18Z

GRAMMER Houston Sr 1904-1973

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GRAMMER Martha Paul 1924-

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:12:06Z

GRAMMER Martha Paul 1924-

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GRAMMER Houston Jr 1928-1980

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:11:56Z

GRAMMER Houston Jr 1928-1980

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GRAMMER Robert M Jr 1920-1977

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:11:47Z

GRAMMER Robert M Jr 1920-1977

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GRAMMER Ruby 1907-1953

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:11:38Z

GRAMMER Ruby 1907-1953

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GRAMMER Iris Lorene 1912-1992

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:11:26Z

GRAMMER Iris Lorene 1912-1992

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GRAMMER Herman H 1929-1953

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:11:15Z

GRAMMER Herman H 1929-1953

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GRAMMER Francine L and Emery P

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:11:02Z

GRAMMER Francine L and Emery P

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GRAMMER Hazel W and Robert S

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:10:30Z

GRAMMER Hazel W and Robert S

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Re: Grammer's in Germany and other countries

ssmith0942 — 2009-04-15 02:30:53Z

Not that I am aware of. I believe there are no longer any GRAMER males in my line left. Sheila

Re: Grammer's in Germany and other countries

ssmith0942 — 2009-04-14 01:53:03Z

My line goes back to Dominicus GRAMER and wife Catharina GRAMER. Dominicus'(born 1759) father was Anton. Sheila

Re: Nicholas Charles Grammer 1866 - 1965

ssmith0942 — 2009-04-13 14:07:00Z

Michael, was your father Warren? I am Warren's cousin and have a lot of info on the GRAMER line. Sheila Gould Smith

Re: Grammer's in Germany and other countries

ssmith0942 — 2009-04-13 13:59:50Z

My GRAMMERS came from Bildechingen, Schwarzwaldkreis, Wuerttemberg, Germany near the Black Forrest. Sheila

Eberhard Grammer/Gramer

ssmith0942 — 2009-04-13 13:56:06Z

I am looking for info on Eberhard GRAMMER. He was born in Bildechingen, Wuerttemberg Germany March 1839. He came to the US and was found in the 1870 census of Bureau County, Illinois. In 1880 he was in Wyanet, Bureau County, Illinois. That is the last I can find of him. No death in Bureau county. Can anyone help? Thanks, Sheila Smith

Re: Grammer's in Germany and other countries

theresaanngrammer — 2009-04-14 01:42:42Z

Hi Sheila, It looks like Bildechingen is very close to Ergenzingen Germany. There are many Grammer's going back to Johannes Grammer, *1724 in Ergenzingen.

Does your line also go back to Johannes?

Re: Grammer

theresaanngrammer — 2009-04-14 22:38:50Z

Dallas and Keith,

If either of you are still researching the family tree, I would love to get in touch with you.

Theresa Sayre

Re: Grammer's in Germany and other countries

theresaanngrammer — 2009-04-14 22:34:43Z

I was curious because a male Grammer from Germany did the dna test. Do you know if any male descendants from your Grammer line have done a dna test?

If so we could compare it with the two dna tests already done and see if you're from the same line and determine how closely related.

The two GRAMMER dna tests are from different lines.

Re: Grammer DNA testing

theresaanngrammer — 2009-04-15 23:56:07Z

Has anyone else done the dna testng, maybe with a different company?

We have two Grammers that have tested. From the dna results, they are from different lines. One is for Germany. The other is thought to be a descendant of Joseph Grammer, also of Germany.

I'm hoping to compare results with other tests.

Re: Grammer's in Germany and other countries

theresaanngrammer — 2009-04-15 02:50:54Z

Oh, that's too bad. Sorry to here that.

New DNA Project Participant - His test results are back

theresaanngrammer — 2009-01-16 00:27:48Z

A second Grammer joined the DNA project, a Grammer gentleman in the southwest German state of Baden-Württemberg. He has very good records on his family tree going back to the early 1700's. The family was in the Baden-Württemberg area in early 1700. Since he lives reasonably close to the Haguenau, France area (~80 kilometers / ~50 miles), we thought odds were good for a dna match.

We compared it to my dad's test (he is thought to be the descendant of Joseph Grammer 1750).

We were thinking it would be a match, but it was not. In fact, they are in entirely different haplogroups.

There is a third Grammer that did the dna test and he does match 12 for 12 with my dad's test. I pretty sure his ancestor was from Alabama.

******
On a side note: For those of you from the James G. Grammer line, the Grizzle family did a maternal DNA test to see if Abigail was Cherokee or some other Native American origin. I got an email that the maternal DNA was not Native American. This is relevant to the Grammer family because James G. Grammer married Elizabeth Grizzle.

Happy Researching...Theresa

Re: Grammer's in Germany and other countries

theresaanngrammer — 2009-01-16 00:00:51Z

I'm wondering if you or anyone else has found any French Army military records for Joseph Grammer.

If so, could you please refer me to the source, so I could request a copy?

Thank you,
Theresa

Re: Walter Harvey Grammer

theresaanngrammer — 2009-01-05 01:04:31Z

I'm trying to reach Keith Grammer.

Thanks, Theresa

Re: John Grammer, VA.

amccollum164 — 2009-03-15 19:16:50Z

Your John Grammer was the son of John Grammer and Elizabeth
Abernathy. He married Sarah (Sallie) Noblett. There are other descendants in Texas who are researching that line. I
do have info from his will, signed in 1858 in Lincoln County,
TN and some info from the settlement of the estate when Sarah died. The settlement is dated 1871. John and Elizabeth were
married in Dinwiddie County VA in 1792. My line is their son,
Peterson, born 1797.

Re: William C. GRAMMER of Alabama/Texas

grammer49 — 2009-01-21 20:15:40Z

hi my husband was Calvin Edward GRammer,his father was James Oscar Grammar, His father was James Henry Grammar, wife was Amanda Flornce Holly , James Henry Grammar was William Calvin Grammarand Susan Malinda Rhyne son.
William had 2 wifes Susan Rhyne and Nancy.
I'm Johnnie Geraldine Neal Grammer
grammer49@yahoo.com

Grammer's in Germany and other countries

wfowler21 — 2009-04-17 00:46:58Z

If you click on the underlined Grammer name in the text of any of these messages, it will take you to a page full of facts about the Grammer ancestry - the origins, geographic distribution of the families, language, etc. Also will provide quick links to things like Grammers in the Civil War.

Re: John Grammer, VA.

pduffey123 — 2009-03-13 21:37:46Z

Hi, I own the John Grammer house in Petersburg and have done extensive research on the family and could possibly answer your questions.

Re: John Grammer, VA.

pduffey123 — 2009-03-13 21:33:58Z

HI see the latest post on the Grammer family-I've done allot research. thanks

Re: John Grammer, VA.

pduffey123 — 2009-03-13 21:29:58Z

Hi, I have owned the John Grammer House in Petersburg Va. for the past 15 years and have extensively researched his family's genealogy hoping to find his true descendants. So far I keep running into lines that have died out or are not his direct descendants. I would love to share all the info that has been turned up-as it is quite interesting and also solves many of the questions that are posted. I hope to hear from someone, mostly to find his true descendants.

Re: John Grammer, VA.

pduffey123 — 2009-03-15 11:51:47Z

Hi, the only Elizabeth Grammer that is directly related to John Grammer 1754-1835 is his daughter that was born to his first wife ----- Timberlake. It has been stated many times that Elizabeth Grammer was born in 1786..in fact she was born in 1785. I have been to her grave and it states that she was born 1785 and died 1861. The grave yard is on the former land of "Locust Grove Plantation" located near McKinney in Dinwiddie Co., Va. Elizabeth Grammer married Thomas Withers, who in fact was the brother of the second Mrs. John Grammer, (Priscilla Withers Grammer). There were at least 3 John Grammers living in the same period in the Petersburg area. To say the least, your Elizabeth is a relative on John Grammer. I've seen on line about the Abernathy-Grammer connections, which could be your line. If I turn up any info, will pass it on to you.

take care

GRAMMER Bessie Cole 1900-

t42Moore — 2009-01-17 22:04:32Z

GRAMMER Bessie Cole 1900-

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GRAMMER David Lee and Carolyn Jane

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-20 01:10:03Z

GRAMMER David Lee and Carolyn Jane

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Re: John Grammer, VA.

amicuswill — 2009-03-15 01:50:15Z

Hi,
I'm responding to your post about the descendents of John Grammer.My gggrandfather was a John Grammer followed by Peterson Henderson Grammer, William Daniel Grammer, James Martin Grammer and then finally myself. John and Peterson were from Tennessee and the rest from Texas. Hope the family connects!

Death of Tom Grammer

maryachtrh — 2009-03-21 04:35:53Z

Appears in the Terrell Times-Star, Terrell, Kaufman County, Texas, 18 March 1892 ...

Last Sunday morning Tom Grammer, a man well known to a number of Terrell people, was found in a dying condition upon the street in Wills Point. He was suffering from a gunshot wound, which resulted fatally without Grammer disclosing the name of the slayer. The coroners' inquest resulted in the arrest of James Hamm and P. C. Hawkins, who are thought to be the guilty ones. Both were released upon bond.

Re: John Grammer, VA.

TonyaThompson35 — 2009-03-16 06:28:45Z

Thank you so very, very much. I thought that the graves from Locust Grove Plantation, which was the plantation owned by Virgil and Bettie Davis Rives, were all moved to Butterwood Methodist Church Cemetary when the government decided to create a military base in Blackstone. I have quite a few members of the Davis family at Butterwood, whom were originally in that graveyard. Does that cemetary still exist on the base?

Thanks again for your assistance!

Re: John Grammer, VA.

TonyaThompson35 — 2009-03-15 05:46:07Z

That is so wonderful to be able to own a piece of history like that! I am trying to find more information on the Elizabeth Grammer, whom was born about 1795 and died 15 May 1854 in Petersburg. She married William Joseph Davis. They had Wilkins J (my 4th GGrandfather), James William (owner of the boarding school in Dinwiddie), Elizabeth B, and Heartwell T. Davis. Thanks to the burning of the Dinwiddie County Courthouse, I have had considerable trouble tracking this family. Any assistance or direction to a path would be most appreciated!

GRAMMER L M Jr 1876 1903

t42ElmBranch_EllisCoTX — 2009-01-16 14:04:36Z

GRAMMER L M Jr 1876 1903

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GRAMMER Alve Asbary 1880 1902 son of L M and H E Grammer

t42ElmBranch_EllisCoTX — 2009-01-16 14:04:24Z

GRAMMER Alve Asbary 1880 1902 son of L M and H E Grammer

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GRAMMER L M Mrs - 1911

t42ElmBranch_EllisCoTX — 2009-01-16 14:04:08Z

GRAMMER L M Mrs - 1911

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GRAMMER Willie Mrs BAIN 1865 1922

t42ElmBranch_EllisCoTX — 2009-01-16 14:03:52Z

GRAMMER Willie Mrs BAIN 1865 1922

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GRAMMER George married 12 Jun 1925

t42ElmBranch_EllisCoTX — 2009-01-22 23:36:37Z

GRAMMER George married 12 Jun 1925

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GRAMMER Mildred 1925 2001 married 12 Jun 1925

t42ElmBranch_EllisCoTX — 2009-01-22 23:36:12Z

GRAMMER Mildred 1925 2001 married 12 Jun 1925

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