Groome - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

John Walder and Eliza Groome

sandra18269 — 2009-11-05 02:40:07Z

I am looking for John Walder Groome born in Steyning Sussex England in 1828. He and his wife Eliza have 'gone missing' between 1881 (Eastbourne Sussex) and 1901 (Eastbourne Sussex)

Re: Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

meljr09 — 2009-09-22 14:45:23Z

Unfortunately DNA is best for proving who you are NOT related to, but it will put you in the ball park for approximate era. We still have to find the documentation etc to make the connections. We know that the Zachariah of Middlesex attended the same church as Richard and Barbara Groom (worked on the same charity case) as well as Robert and Susannah Groom, but I still can't prove that they are all related. There is still the mystery of the identity of the deceased brother Zachariah mentioned in the will of John Groom Jr of 1805 from Louisa/Orange Co VA. DNA is matching up for descendents of John SR of Spotsylvania/Orange and that of descendents of Robert Groom of King and Queen. Brothers or cousins remains to be seen. Sorry, I don't have the lineage worked out for Zachariah of Middlesex yet.

Re: Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

peggycont — 2009-09-22 01:42:34Z

Ann, I'm happy that you could use DNA to get your line straightened out. I'm still searching for my ancestor, in spite of very good help from Groom researchers. Could you send me the descendants of Zachariah from Middlesex Co, VA? My info is sketchy there. Thanks! Peggy

Re: Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

peggycont — 2009-09-22 01:41:37Z

Re: Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

peggycont — 2009-09-22 01:41:36Z

Re: Groome in Old Kent, MD

peggycont — 2009-09-22 01:22:55Z

Old Kent: the eastern shore of Maryland ; notes illustrative of the most ...‎ - Page 180
by George Adolphus Hanson

Go to Google Books to find quite extensive genealogy on MD families.

Groome in Old Kent, MD

peggycont — 2009-09-22 01:21:51Z

Old Kent: the eastern shore of Maryland ; notes illustrative of the most ...‎ - Page 180
by George Adolphus Hanson

Groome in Old Kent, MD

peggycont — 2009-09-22 01:21:50Z

Old Kent: the eastern shore of Maryland ; notes illustrative of the most ...‎ - Page 180
by George Adolphus Hanson

Groome in Old Kent, MD

peggycont — 2009-09-22 01:21:49Z

Old Kent: the eastern shore of Maryland ; notes illustrative of the most ...‎ - Page 180
by George Adolphus Hanson

Clearfield Co, PA Groom/Groome family

vgroome1 — 2009-07-09 18:23:22Z

Thomas Jefferson Groom (1834 Lancaster Co, PA -?) married Martha M.Smith (1834-?). They had the following children: Dora, Rachel, Annie, Bertha, Alice & George, all born Clearfield County, PA. In 1900 census a grandson, Amos E. (b.1884) was living with Thomas & Martha. Since son George would have been too young to be Amos' father, I believe Amos may have been the illegitimate son of one of the girls. He married Iva Ruth, abt. 1907 and had the following children: Anna, Samuel, Thomas, Amos, Helen, William, Iva, Gordon & Betty. Amos E.'s death certificate lists parents as ?. Informant was wife. Looking to solve this mystery!
Amos E. died in NJ in 1856 and is buried in Clearfield County.

Lancaster County, PA Groomes

vgroome1 — 2009-07-04 15:39:10Z

Looking for Groome family that settled in Columbia, Lancaster County, PA. I am back to George Groome (1807-aft.1880)m. Catherine Arms. He moved his family to Clearfield County, then back to Columbia in the mid 1800's. I have found a Thomas Groome in Columbia on the 1840 Census. Would have been born between 1770-1780. Trying to figure out if this would be the father of George. Surname is found with and without the e

Ann Groome

JewellBurcham68 — 2009-06-19 18:10:50Z

I am still looking for Ann, she married Stephen Johnson in England and then moved to Baltimore, Maryland. After he died she married James Thompson(My line) and then when James Died she married Edward Felkes. She stayed in Baltimore.
I know she is a kinswoman to Moses Groome.
I know that she D in 1719/1720.
Does anyone know who her parents where. I know that the First child was born in Stepney, Middlesex, England
Jewell

Re: India Groome - Maid in May Day picture- Greensboro, NC

MartieGroome — 2009-04-11 18:57:35Z

I would love to have a copy of the article. I am just begining to research my Groome roots. Thanks so much for the offer.

Martie Groome
Greensboro NC

Re: Groome album.

vanaeknight — 2008-01-22 04:07:10Z

Probably not the same. It says on the back of the pict (in pencil) "Presented to Raymond G. Wolf by A.E. Groome, East Liberty, Ohio, October 25th, 1906." In pen, below: "believe this is Jose & Helen Groome." Picture is of a woman in her 30's and young teenage girl. Vanae

Re: Groome album.

arbja69 — 2008-01-16 06:14:59Z

My father had a brother Joe Groome and a sister Helen Groome. They lived in NC. I don't know any of the other names. Could Joe and Helen be my aunt and uncle? Is there a date on the picture?

Re: Margaret Gawley

johngawley — 2008-01-06 10:17:21Z

i,m john. maries brother. my e-mail is woodlandsfolders@hotmail.com

Re: Margaret Gawley

PStewart7800 — 2008-01-06 00:57:32Z

Hi there, my grandfather is also William Gawley from Kilkeel, there are no other William Gawley's in Kilkeel so we must be related. My great aunt Carrie lived in Fleetwood and we (4 Manchester girls)spent many happy summers there in Fleetwood - staying in her house during the holidays over 45 years ago. When not there we were in Kilkeel ourselves. I know aunt Carrie married a man named Cross, so is this where your connection is? My name is Patricia former surname Murphy. My mother was Sarah Murphy nee Gawley (William's daughter). I remember a child named Caroline in Fleetwood (I was born 1955). Its so long ago I forget the people. Please respond if any of this makes sense

Samuel William Groome Jr from Philadelphia

bcbook — 2007-12-27 13:25:27Z

I am looking for information on Samuel William Groome, Jr. from Philadelphia. In the 1890s or late 1880s, to the shock of his parents, he eloped with the well known actress Maud Haslam. She died in 1899. In 1912 (or maybe late 1911), Samuel W married Carolina Cecelia de Estevez. De Estevez was her maiden name. However, she was divorced from Thomas H Terry sometime between 1907 and 1912 so she used Carolina E Terry or Mrs Thomas Terry. Samuel William Groome died in 1920.

Re: Ann/Groome?/Baltimore/1645

2006-10-31 21:32:12Z

New e-mail address, burchamjf@spiretech.com

Re: william d. 1677 in MD

2006-03-17 17:19:16Z

Re: Ann/Groome?/Baltimore/1645

2006-01-14 16:54:33Z

A.W. and Rozzie Dobyns

2005-10-28 05:11:55Z

I have some sketchy info on A.W. and Rozzie Dobyns of Norwich Township (Hilliard) Ohio, as well as their children. I also have many holes in my information I'd like to fill in, if possible. The inscription to which you referred in your post is from their memorial in Wesley Chapel Cemetery near Hilliard/Columbus, Ohio. If anyone has or needs information on A.W. or Rozzie, please contact me.

Would like to locate Sisters, brother or their decendants

2006-09-08 22:08:06Z

My mother was born Edith Jennie Groome December 25, 1923 in Edmonton ,Alberta Canada.

Her father was Gilbert Gordon Groome from Oxford England.

Her mother was Edith Jennie Wraight (nee) from Kent England.

Her sister was Violet Sylva Groome Born June 9, 1922 in Edmonton, Alberta Canada

Her eldest sister was Vera Francis Groome Born Nov 12, 1920 in Phillips, Alberta Canada

Edith is unsure if she had a brother as her mother died upon her birth and she was left with the Flynn family as her father had to leave for business reasons and was unable to care for a newborn. Although her father left expensive funiture and household goods he never returned.

My mother now 83 would like to locate any members of her family.

searching for ancestors

2005-05-21 10:42:09Z

Can anyone help me? looking for a anna c groom who married a william c shawgo. My dad who was a wm c shawgo also said wm and anna were either english or scotish or irish. i have no infro on either of them.do not even know if they came to the usa or not. my grandfather who was a wm c shawgo did come. settled in baltimore,md so in all there was 3 williams. i need all the help i can get. doing the family tree.

Re: william d. 1677 in MD

2004-10-18 19:32:31Z

I have new information about the wife of William Groome and his wife Sibil (Sybill) This is information from the Maryland Archives
Dr. Lois Green Carr's Biographical Files of 17th and 18th Century Marylanders
William Groome
Wife: 1. Mary; 2. Sybill, later wife of 2. Henry Jowles. Children: William, Richard. Local Offices: appraiser, 1664, 1665, 1672, 1673; justice of peace (Calvert County), 1664-1667, 1669, 1674, 1676. Provincial Offices: juror, Provincial Court, 1664. Land at death: 1600 a., none in St. Marys County.

Patents 10 277 Immigrated with wife Mary and 12 servants one of whom was Sibil Finch who was his second wife
Planter April 1664
William Groome Immigrated 1664 Liber 10 p 277
Nov 30, 1666
Came William Groome and demands land for transporting himself, his wife Mary, John Aldwell, Bernard (Duke?), Samuel Scott, Sibbill Finch (second wife), Ann Bridge, Thomas Ellis, John Thomlibson, Frances Davies, James Catch, William ?, James Garrett, John Williams
Based on this I think that Sybill's maiden name was Finch. She married William Groome first and the Henry Jowles.

Re: James & Elizabeth Groome - England to Mississippi

2004-08-20 20:13:00Z

The only middle initial I have ever seen for Thomas Groome is J. I think it may stand for Joseph or James, but I don't know for certain. I don't believe this Thomas is the Thomas Floyd Groome you seek. Sorry.

Re: Austin Groome in PA - Arthur, not Austin!

2004-07-07 23:32:08Z

Update: Arthur (NOT Austin!) was born abt.1839 in Columbia, Lancaster County, PA., died after 1910. Wife was Mary McLaughlin, born abt.1851 and died after 1910. Had the following children: Jacob L.(my husband's line), Mary, Christian, Lizzie, Arthur A., Howard R., and Margaret A. Can locate Arthur on the 1880 Census in New Manor Twp, Lanc Co. with wife and first 4 children; on 1910 Census in Columbia, Lanc Co., with wife and last 3 children. If this fits your family, please contact me!

Re: Margaret Gawley

2004-03-16 05:02:28Z

My Gawleys name is George and Elizabeth, born in Ontario, Canada/. Also had children, Roy, Henry and Margeret , Walter
and 3 others. All born in Canada early 1900's

Groome album.

vanaeknight — 2007-10-14 23:27:38Z

I have an old album that I purchased (for the album), inside is a lot of old pictures, probably about 1910-1935; The inscriptions on the back: "Luicille & Thelma 1906 (young maybe 10 yr old); another about 1900 is heads of two girls with "Lucille & Thelma". "Gus & Bud" Jan 10th 1919 (Man on horse in WWI uniform. A boy in sailor "dress" says on back "William Woodal". A picture about 1945 of an older woman back say "Lena Woodall".Another says "nee, Grace Cook" with Raymond 4/18-12 on back and then the address "Mrs. A. H. Kruliah, 530 E. 9th St. Oklahoma City" Another, "believe this is Jose & Helen Groome" above it says "presented to Raymond G. Wolf by A.E. Groome, East Liberty, Ohio October 25 1906"..There is probably 20 different photographs. Is this anyone ancestors?

Margaret Gawley

PStewart7800 — 2006-09-26 22:44:34Z

Any relation as my ancestor Margaret Gawley born 30 May 1863 in Kilkeel, County Down Northern Ireland to William Gawley and Mary Lynch

Re: Margaret Gawley

PStewart7800 — 2006-09-26 22:44:34Z

Lorraine, My Margaret Gawley was born in 1863 in Kilkeel, County Down, Northern Ireland to William and Mary Gawley. She later emigrated to Pennsylvania in the late 1880's and we have traced her family.

However, I know that my Gawley's also went to Canada - but have not traced them yet. I am still searching for the brothers/sisters of Thomas Gauley/Gawley born around 1785-90 who married Jane Reilly, also the brothers and sisters of William Gawley his son born about 1830's who married Mary Lynch - the parents of the above named Margaret. We have no further info. about any of them and know that they travelled back and forth from Kilkeel to PA for many years.

The problem is we do not know any of the names of these brothers and sisters and are at a dead end, so they could easily be related to your Gawley's and we would not know unless anyone in your family has knowledge that there were relatives of around those times named Thomas and later his son William.

Re: Groome Family History

orangutantitty — 2007-01-23 23:41:07Z

There is a family Groome living in 75 College Grove, Castleknock.
Some bloke called Joe Groome, his wife Nora Molyneux and son Fionnan. They all a bit daft, but there you go - you can pick your friends, but not your family

Re: James & Elizabeth Groome - England to Mississippi

CharlieInKentucky — 2006-06-21 03:30:08Z

The latest information that I have on this family indicates that Joseph Groome married Elizabeth Smith on 5 Dec 1836 at Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, London, England. Joseph appears to have been born 13 May 1817 in Shoreditch to Joseph and Celia Groome. Elizabeth Smith may have been born on or about 19 Jan 1816 based on a statement written down in the Fisher Funera Home records for her (Vicksburg MS).

There is little likelihood that additional information will become available concerning their ancestors, but I am always hopeful.

Joseph and Elizabeth had four sons before they emigrated to the USA in Oct 1850. The eldest, also named Joseph, was born 3 Apr 1838 according to the baptism records of the St. John the Baptist's Church in Hoxton (also in London). According to the same records, the next three sons were Thomas, born 12 May 1840, William, born 11 Jan 1844, and Jonathan, born 29 Nov 1845. Apparently their parents took all four boys to St. John's on 29 Sep 1847 to be christened.

Two additional notes: (1) all three Josephs, grandfather, father, and son, were shoemakers. (2) It is possible that Joseph and Celia Groome also had a son named John who was born 23 Jul 1814 in Shoreditch.

I welcome any additional information.

Charlie

Re: James & Elizabeth Groome - England to Mississippi

CharlieInKentucky — 2006-05-09 20:53:17Z

New Update....

1841 England Census: Middlesex, St. Leonard Shoreditch, Hoxton New Town, District 1
[Hoxton New Town in the heart of London's industrialized East End.]
Name: Joseph Groome; Age: 25; Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Household: Joseph (25), Elizabeth (25), Joseph (3), Thomas (1)
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: Cross Street (?)
Occupation: shoemaker
Source information: HO107/707/1
Registration district: Shoreditch; Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town
ED 1; Folio: 9; Page: 11; Line number: 4; GSU Number: 438817

Re: James & Elizabeth Groome - England to Mississippi

CharlieInKentucky — 2005-05-30 16:35:11Z

This is an undate to my previous message.

First, James' name was actually Joseph. Joseph (32), Elizabeth (32), Joseph (11), Thomas (9), William (6), and John (3) Groome arrived at New Orleans on 14 Oct 1850 aboard the Hazuenas. The port of departure was Liverpool.

According to the obituary and death certificate of their eldest son, the family came from London, and Elizabeth's maiden name was Smith.

After arriving in America, the family moved up the Mississippi River to near Memphis. They later moved down to Vicksburg where the family settled for several generations.

Any clues to their lives in England will be greatly welcomed.

Austin Groome in PA

vgroome1 — 2004-03-16 21:52:18Z

I'm looking for info on Austin Groome. I think he may be related to my husband's line, although I'm awaiting a death certificate that I hope will verify this. According to the 1880 Census....he was born about 1839 in PA, both parents were also born in PA.....wife Mary, born about 1851 in Pa (possibly a second marriage???) The following children: Jacob, Mary, Christian and Lizzie. This sound familiar to anyone?

John Randolph Groome

swasco — 2007-02-13 15:36:58Z

Searching for information on the parents of John Randolph Groome / Groom born 28 Aug 1816 in Jamaica, Middlesex County, Virginia. Moved to Louisiana and later to Mississippi. Spouse Susan Margaret West.

Thanks!

Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

meljr09 — 2007-06-11 14:10:58Z

We are trying to locate a descendent of the Zachariah Groome of Middlesex with the Groom/Groome surname who will participate in our dna project at www.familytreedna.com so that we can determine the connection of these two lines. Please contact me at meljr09@msn.com. Thanks Ann Groom Lenz

Re: Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

meljr09 — 2007-12-07 23:02:19Z

Thanks. We are always open to all clues. I sure hope you can convince your brother to participate in the dna project. I got my own brother to relunctantly agree and now he is so glad that he did. We have definitely matched with known descendents of the Groom/Grooms families of colonial VA and the information and leads we have obtained have been great. Three of our participants are trying to determine ties, if any, back to the Zachariah Groome of Middlesex Co VA. It would really help if your brother matched to one of these three. Let me know if I can talk to him or give him other information. Ann Groom Lenz

Re: Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

meljr09 — 2007-12-07 15:51:26Z

This would really clarify some issues on our Groom/Grooms/Groome lineage. Do you have Bible records etc back to the Zachariah of Caswell Co NC? We are unclear, but think he is the son of the John Groome of Middlesex, and grandson of the Zachariah of Middlesex/King and Queen. Can you straighten us out on any of that? Our dna project is at www.familytreedna.com and we would love to have you participate if you have the Groome surname. That technology is the "Proof of the pudding" so to speak. It has really helped us define the various lines. An entry test is 12 markers for about $100. Some of us went back for additional markers to further define the lines. What dna testing actually identifies is who you are NOT related to, but that saves lots of valuable research time. Look forward to hearing from you again. Ann

Re: Margaret Gawley

johngawley — 2007-12-09 22:03:16Z

my grandfather was william gawley from kilkeel. he married martha cross who may have been local or came from fleetwood in lancashire. i was born in 1949 and have lost touch with the kilkeel branch of the family. any info wolud be appreciated

Re: Groome Family History

JohnJGroome — 2006-09-13 17:23:55Z

Although many month's havepassed, did you find any other information on you Joe Groome? Thanks.

Re: william d. 1677 in MD

2006-10-30 03:34:37Z

Did William have a daughter or a sister name Ann. She was probably born about 1650. She married James Thompson
jewellb@pacifier.com
Jewell

Ann/Groome?/Baltimore/1645

2006-10-30 03:34:37Z

Looking for Ann that was married to James Thompson.
She was a kinswoman to Moses Groome.I don't know if she was a neice or sister or who,
She married James first then when he died she married Stephen Johnson then Ebdward Felkes 11 Feb 1704
Does anyone have a answer to this puzzle. Jewell
jewellb@pacifier.com

Alderman Groome

TedHarris1958 — 2004-04-07 20:59:26Z

I've hit a brick wall with Alderman Groome, my GGG Grandfather. He married Elizabeth Codgbrook 20 Oct 1819 in Little Addington. His year of birth from the 1841 census is about 1786. I've found an Alderman Groom marrying Ann Smith 17 Sep 1809 in Irthlingborough who was baptised 20 Aug 1786 in Higham Ferrers. Did Ann die and Alderman re-marry?

Re: James & Elizabeth Groome - England to Mississippi

elizabeth_carlisi — 2004-11-26 04:38:09Z

If Thomas Groome son of James & Elizabeth is Thomas Floyd Groome he would be my great-great grandfather, I would appreciate any information you have on him.

Re: Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

arbja — 2007-12-07 06:41:24Z

I am a decendant of Zachariah,King and Queen VA. Can you tell me how much the testing costs and where to get a form. I have a brother but he has not been willing to help with the family search. If I had more info maybe I could intrest him. There are many cousins in NC but I have lost contact with them.

Re: India Groome - Maid in May Day picture- Greensboro, NC

arbja — 2007-12-07 18:54:49Z

This post I found is from 2003. Are you still out there? If so I am interested in the clipping. My father was born in Groometown, near Greensboro in 1901. He had 3 brothers, his father was one of 12 brothers and sisters. There is a strong possibility that the person in the clipping is a relative.

Re: Groom/Groome Middlesex/King&Queen VA -Caswell Co NC

arbja — 2007-12-07 18:33:40Z

Sorry, I do not have any proof. I got all my info from lolly. I am very new to this and she was kind enough to send me 44 pages of the family tree. I believe she has the proofs. I have not progressed that far yet. I got side-tracked looking for my grandmother's parents. No luck so far. I found lolly on one of the message boards. There seems to be a mix up with the Zachariah's in the first 3 generations. 1760-1830. Some birthdates and spouses do not match. Maybe you already know all of this or have already contacted her. I would like to help with this but don't see how i would be of any help since I am a female. Looking forward to hearing more from you. I do have an e-mail address for lolly but I didn't want to put it out for everyone to read.

Wm and Moses Groome b abt 1620 d in Maryland

MaryJo913 — 2005-03-06 15:39:02Z

Looking to establish a connection between Moses and William Groome who lived in the Gunpowder Hundred in what is now Harford Counry Maryland. Moses had a son Moses who married Ann ? and they had a daughter Elizabeth who married John Ewings. William married first Mary who came with him and 12 servants from England or Ireland one of whom was Sibil Finch who became his second wife. I would like to believe that Moses and William were brothers. Can anyone help me?