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Valentine, Edward & Katherine Guinan

jah126 — 2009-11-01 22:10:44Z

Hi,

I am looking for relatives Valentine, Edward & Katherine Guinan. They are all from Shannon Harbour, Co Offaly (Kings County) Ireland. There are other brothers and sisters. Some stayed in Ireland and others may also have gone to the US.

Val was born around 1881 married Johanna (Hanna) Golgan and went to New York in 1902, I believe he was around Brooklyn. They had 2 children (at least) John and Anna and I believe that Anna married Edward Loerch. John was born in New York and Anna in Shannon Harbour.

Edward Guinan was born around 1892 and went to New York in 1915. I don't believe he married.

Kitty Guinan was born around 1894 and married Bill Stephenson. I'm not sure when she went to the US.

Thanks,

John

BERRY Evelyn GUINAN 1885-1957

t42MountOlivet — 2009-10-23 11:07:03Z

BERRY Evelyn GUINAN 1885-1957

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 208,545 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

MCKRAUT36 — 2009-10-05 12:23:19Z

My Guinan/Delaney branch came from Co Laois Ireland which is adjacent to Offaly. I had a researcher from Ire do a formal search and my particular branch was from the village of Mountmellick. They came to the states in the 1850's and settled in the lower Hudson Valley region of NY (Middletown, NY Orange County)

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

GuinanDub — 2009-10-02 08:44:54Z

Gary

Interesting piece. There were Guinans in Cork in 1800s (at least) with strong links in London. There also seems to be a fair representation in Lancashire.

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

ChrisBLynch — 2009-09-08 01:18:02Z

Hi Margaret, My GGGrandfather was James Francis Guinan wife Catherine he was born in Ireland. Thay had five children all born in New York, Catherine, Mary Ann Guinan born 1867 husband Edward Lynch, John J. Guinan born 1869, William M. Guinan born 1873, James Francis born 1877. Any info would be great. Thanks, Chris Lynch

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

Toni500 — 2009-09-08 01:16:41Z

Bill,
It's been awhile since I posted anything on Guinane. I get really burned out trying to find anything pre-1860 on this name but am still going through the records from LDS. When I asked for your names I was referring to your Guinane ancestors; father, grandfather, grt grandfather so I could copy those if I came across anything. The films are very hard to read and some pages are completely illegible....that's probably where my information is! So let me know. The Family History Center where I go (in Horseheads, NY) is closed in August so I will go slogging again in September.

Margaret Guinane Mason

Re: Thomas Guinan -- Youngstown, Ohio

evagainan — 2009-09-08 00:34:24Z

I am a Gainan from Montana, actually I married a Gainan. I have been doing research myself and this is what I have found. Stephen Joseph Gainan came to Montana from Iowa, but was born in Pennsylvania. He was quite the war hero. His dad was James Gainan from Limerick Ireland, and his mother was Catherine Burke who both passed away in Penns. I attached a pedigree chart of my husbands father.
I have had the same problem as you with the last name of Gainan, not sure if it was changed when they came here, or what. If you find a connection please let me know.

Re: Family of either Bernard or Francis Guinan

guinaneg — 2009-06-21 22:40:32Z

Mary Ann
Have you read my posting on this message board :"ORIGIN of the GUINAN clan". It will give you some information regarding your name.

Queenstown,Co. Cork is the port from which most of the emigrants sailed to Ellis Island. Maybe this is why Co. Cork appears in your family story. Were Bernard and Francis Guinan born in the US or did they emigrate from Ireland? If their father emigrated from Ireland then they may have travelled to the US via Ellis Is. The records there go back to c. 1895. Worth a look - but you can expect to have to search for other variant spellings of the name (see my other posting)

Rgds
Gerry Guinane

Re: Family of either Bernard or Francis Guinan

Caseygee1 — 2009-06-21 06:38:28Z

I have sent you an email direct...

Re: Guinan inquiry

Caseygee1 — 2009-06-21 06:33:44Z

My G-grandfather was John Guinan b. 1832 Eyrecourt, Co Galway, Ireland (not far as-the-crow-flys) from Offaly. I also have information abt Guinans in Offaly which I am trying to connect. Interested to hear from you or anyone who may be able to connect.

Re: Family of either Bernard or Francis Guinan

Caseygee1 — 2009-06-21 06:16:27Z

My gg-grandfather was Bernard Guinan who at least lived in Co. Galway, Ireland during my documentary evidence spanning (1855-1860). I have other relative but yet unproved connection information and am interested to compare notes.

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

BillOwens123 — 2009-06-20 13:27:33Z

Gerry,
Thanks for your detailed note on the Guinan name. My mother was a Guinan and her ancestors arrived in the Philadelphia area in the mid 1800's - probably during the potato famine exodus. None of them had any idea about the origin of the name.
During a trip to Ireland some years back we also looked in the national telephone directory and were surprised at how few Guinans we saw. When I came across Ollie Guinan's name on a math paper I wrote and asked him about the name, and his reply was the previous posting. I don't know him or his background, so cannot vouch for his story.
Your researching sounds very thorough. Please keep us informed as you learn more.
Thanks,
Bill

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

guinaneg — 2009-06-20 13:26:37Z

Bill
Will do. Send your email address to guinaneg@yahoo.com and I can send you info directly if you like.

Are you a mathematician? That would be an interesting perspective. The aim I have is to chart the growth and distribution of the family over time and then to extrapolate backward to see where we wind up. Not sure how it will come together yet. I will start by assembling the data and take it from there. The relatively small population of the clan is what makes this interesting (as opposed to O'Brien for example)

By the way - the picture I have of early migration is that the first Guinanes headed to the Toronto area in the early/mid 1800s. They would have departed from Limerick.

By 1900 all the departures were from Cork/Queenstown on steamers. most of these Guinanes headed for Chicago, New York presumably drawn by other family members who had preceded them. The Ellis Is. records show these centres of gravity with Limerick/Kildimo Guinanes heading mostly to NY while the Clare folks headed to Chicago. I have come across some who headed to Pittsburg - I'll keep an eye out for them and let you know.

Rgds
Gerry

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

Toni500 — 2009-06-20 13:25:04Z

Hi,

I am really interested in this discussion since there are a group of us Guinanes/Guinan/Ginnane that have been in touch on this subject. What some are working on is the supposition that the Guinanes originally came from France or Spain in the 1600's to the area of Carrigaholt (Shannon River islands) and then spread to other counties from there.
I had always heard that my grandfather, John Guinane, came from County Clare but have not proven this because I am unable to find his parents, John Guinane and Mary Curry Guinane. Our name has always been spelled "Guinane" as far as I know. I have been going through the LDS films hoping to find the marriage information but have not found anything yet. I am now working on the Tulla film which goes back quite aways. Since I do not know where Mary Curry came from and since the marriage would probably have taken place in her church I might be "barking up the wrong tree"! I keep plugging away hoping that I might find something before I pass on :). What are your names in case I run across these I will pass the information to you.

Margaret Guinane Mason
Southern Tier New York State

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

guinaneg — 2009-06-20 13:23:03Z

Hi Margaret
My name is Gerry Guinane. You can email me directly at guinaneg@yahoo.com if you would like to correspond directly.

Each of the last few years I try to do a little work on the 'clan'. As more information becomes available online it gets a little more interesting.

I have heard of a 'legend' that the Guinanes were shipwrecked in the mouth of the Shannon where they settled. Possible - but I would have big doubts about the 1600s.

Ultimately every family in Ireland came from somewhere but I am not a great believer in the Spainish/French shipwreck in the 1600s. Here are my reasons:

1. Just about every Guinane I have ever met is fair haired and freckled. I'm covered in them. This is not a typical appearance of Spainish/Algerian/French people. It is , however, a typical celtic race trait.

2. The Irish version of our name (O'Cuinneáin) is 'native' Irish. This form of name is very old. Way older than 1600. If a Spainish/French shipwreck happened then the survivors would (if they remained) have retained their own names. Many examples of this come from Viking and Norman times many hyundreds of years before. Consider the Norman invasion of England in 1066 - the invaders brough their surnames with them - they were recorded in the domesday book in 1086. Many similar examples of such names exist in Ireland. In fact, where I live (Galway) is a Norman city.

3. Now - to war and conflict - the 1600s were a pretty busy time with wars and whatnot. The English (who ruled Ireland then with the help of Oliver Cromwell) were at war with both Spain and France at various times and were constantly on the lookout for foreign invaders. It was around this time (1588) that the Spainish Armada met its demise on the West of Ireland. The French and Spainish were not exactly welcomed with open arms by the English who wasted little time in returning them to their maker. In addition - the native Irish had no particular welcome for foreigners either. For example - the Armada ships' survivors that ran aground in Sligo were mostly slaughtered where they came ashore (in the Ireland of 1000 welcomes).

Anyway - things have quietened down since.
Rgds
GG

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

BillOwens123 — 2009-06-20 13:20:42Z

Margaret,
You asked "What are your names in case I run across these I will pass the information to you.
I appreciate your offer. My name is Bill Owens and I live in Tucson, AZ. My e-mail address is wrowens@gatech.edu if you want to send anything directly. (I retired from Georgia Tech a few years back, hence the gatech e-mail service.)

Thanks again for your offer.
Bill

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

BillOwens123 — 2009-06-20 13:19:35Z

About 10 years ago I received the following from Ollie Guinan at Trinity College in Dublin. I had asked about the Guinan name in Ireland:\
Attached is some information about the Guinan name from Oliver Guinan at Trinity College in Dublin:

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My family are from the midlands of Ireland, an area known as Offaly. The name is quite common there and in some other areas. The Guinan name is a derivative of the name Gunning which is Anglo-Saxon. The Guinans moved to Ireland from England during the Laois/Offaly plantation during the reign of Elizabeth the first (early 1600s). They were probably knights or noblemen attached to the Fitzgerald family who were the main arristocracy of the area. The knights and noblemen would have been given land rather than money in exchange for moving from england.
I hope that this short history of the name helps a little and feal free
to mail me any more questions.

Ollie
o j guinan@alf2.tcd.ie

GUINAN family ORIGIN

guinaneg — 2009-06-20 13:17:42Z

I have a theory about the point of origin of our family and the pattern of emigration and migration it followed. Hope you find it interesting.

O'Cuineáin Clan
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The name is native Irish. The gaelic version of the name is: O'Cuineáin . Pronounced QUIN-AWN : 'quin' as in quintuplets and 'awn' as in dawn.

In Ireland - Irish language names were unpronouncable to the British (who colonised the country) and could generally not be spelt correctly by the owners of the names. This resulted in names being changed in both pronounciation and spelling in a process called anglicisation. (in the USA a similar process happened when native american people and place names were encountered)

This resulted in a large number of variations of the name:
Guinane
Guinan
Ginnane
Guinnane
Guinanne
Kinan
Kinane
Kinnane

There are many more spelling variations of the name. What follows relates to anyone with any of these name spellings - hence I intend posting this information to each of the relevant ancestry.com message boards.

Geographic spread of the name
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Even though there are many variations of the name it is still relatively uncommon even in Ireland. When I was growing up (1960s) I did not know anyone with the same family name. This is because I grew up in the north west of the country (Sligo) and my father came from Limerick. When we eventually got a telephone (1968) and a nationwide phone directory (as it was at the time) one of the first things I did was look up our name. There was only one other 'Guinane' in the phone book.

This has let me to be interested in the geographic spread of the name. If a name is not very common then it may be possible to trace it back to a point of origin by looking back in the records over time.

Every now and then over the years I would encounter another Guinane. Inevitably they come from Shannon SW region (Limerick/Clare/Tipperary/Galway). When the internet arrived on the scene and googling the name became possible it was clear that the name is spread outside of Ireland to the US, Canada and Australia.

About 10 years ago someone said to me that there was a story that the Guinane/O'Cuineáin family originated on an island in the Shannon estuary. This person told me that the family travelled to both sides of the Shannon river to settle on the mainland - hence they ended up in County Limerick and Clare. My father came from the village of Kildimo in Co. Limerick.

Last year I started to look up the Ellis Island and other immigration records and it was clear that the Guinane emigrants gave their addresses primarily as Counties Limerick, Clare and Tipperary.

County Clare has an excellent genology section on their library website which allows browsing by name of the records back to famine times. It is clear from these records that there was a concentration of the Guinane name in the area of Killadysert on the Clare mainland and on a group of Islands off the Clare coast. These islands are in the mouth of the Fergus river which flows into the Shannon estuary and so is consistent with the story that I had heard many years earlier. The main island of interest is known as Coney (rabbit) Island (or Inish da Dhroim, Island of the two hills)

Another picture that is forming from the emigration records (a lot more definitive research will be required) is related to the pattern of movement of the family name through emigration. The earlier emigrants seemed to head for Toronto in Canada (1850s). These emigrants departed mainly under sail from Limerick port. Later (1900-1920) the Ellis Is. records give more detail about destinations - mainly New York and Chicago. An interesting thing is that the 'Limerick' Guinanes seem to have gravitated to New York while the Clare Guinanes seem to have headed for Chicago.

So what of the Australian Guinanes? I'm getting into the realms of guesswork here - but based on the deportation records available in the National Archives of Ireland (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/) I think that the likelyhood is that sealing a loaf of bread was your ticket to Australia in the 1800s.

Hypothesis
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Let me state they (as yet unproven) hypothesis about the O'Cuineáin family point of origin and subsequent migration.

1. The O'Cuineain family/clann originates (pre 1800) from an area concentrated around Coney Island in the Fergus/Shannon estuary.
2. The family made their livelyhood through small holdings on the island and collecting seaweed as fertiliser from the shallow waters of the estuary.
3. They migrated in the 1800s across and up river and along the banks to the mainland - Co. Limerick (Kildimo area and Limerick city), Co. Clare (Killadysert), Co. Tipperary (Killaloe/Ballina)
4. They force emigrated to Australia through deportation in the 1800s
5. 1850s - They emigrated to Toronto,Canada from Limerick (Its from this branch of the family that Texas Guinan hails)
6. 1900s - They emigrated to Chigago - mostly from Co. Clare and to New York - mostly from Co. Limerick

I'm hoping to build up a clearer body of evidence to support this over this summer.

Finally
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There is another story/legend relating to the Guinane name - that a ship from either France or Spain went down in the Shannon estuary sometime in the 1700s. The survivors settled on Coney Island and became the O'Cuineáin clan. The gaelic name for a rabbit is Coinín whic has a pronouncation similar to Cuineáin so there is a possible origin for the name also.

Gerry Guinan(e)

Re: Guinane Churh and civil records.

Toni500 — 2008-11-25 16:20:44Z

Hi Pete,

Great of you to publish all these Guinan/Guinane/Ginane records. I wish I could relate to even one of them. I think we have "talked" before but could not connect. I have been searching for my John Guinane/Mary Curry for many years with no results. Family story that John came from County Clare but he may have been born in another County, possibly Tipperary. I have been going through various films from LDS to no avail as of yet.
My problem is that they must have been married in the 1850's and that is why it is so difficult. All the children I know about were born in the 1860's. I could post some info that I have written down from the films but most of them were so difficult to read and I have a lot of question marks.
John Guinane's son is my grandfather and he emigrated to New York State in 1890. His sisters Ann and Mary also came to New York State (namely Elmira, NY)
If everyone would post some things they have it would probably help someone. Hope you get a good response.

Toni Guinane Mason

Mary Guinan - County Tipperary - early 1800s (Moylan)

PMoylan7373 — 2008-01-17 18:51:04Z

I'm looking for anyone who might have Mary Guninan in their family tree. She married David Moylan in Co. Tipperary (Parish of Tipperary) on January 24, 1815.

I have a lot of information on her descendants that I'll happily share.

Pat Moylan

Re: Bernard and Francis Guinan

Sandy Lovell — 2008-09-29 21:14:07Z

I hope your email address is still good. I am related to the Fogarty's. Please email me at Sandy0412@aol.com. Thank you, Sandy Lovell

Re: Guinan's in Philly

Sandy Lovell — 2009-05-04 14:24:45Z

Please contact me if your email address is still good. We are related through the Fogarty's. Sincerely, Sandy Lovell

Sandy0412@aol.com

Re: Update on Guinnane/Guinan Family in ILLINIOS

pglaub — 2008-11-04 00:17:22Z

This is my Guinan family:
1
Descendants of John Guinan
Generation No. 1
1. JOHN1 GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) was born Abt. 1800 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.). He married ELIZABETH GRACE (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import:
Feb 25, 2006.) Oct 22, 1827 in Ireland. She was born Abt. 1810 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25,
2006.).
Children of JOHN GUINAN and ELIZABETH GRACE are:
2. i. JOHN2 GUINAN, b. Newport, Tipperary, IR; d. 1890.
ii. BRIDGET GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1828 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iii. MARGARET GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1832 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iv. MICHAEL GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1833 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
v. MICHAEL GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1837 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
3. vi. PATRICK GUINAN, b. Abt. 1840, Newport, Tipperary, Ireland.
vii. CATHERINE GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1840 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
4. viii. THOMAS GUINAN, b. Feb 1845, Newport, Tipperary, IR; d. Aug 17, 1918, Springfield, Sangamon County, IL.
Generation No. 2
2. JOHN2 GUINAN (JOHN1) (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) was born in Newport, Tipperary, IR
(Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), and died 1890 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import:
Feb 25, 2006.). He married MARY MARGARET MAINES (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.),
daughter of THOMAS MAINS and MARY RYAN. She was born Unknown in NY (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import:
Feb 25, 2006.), and died 1923 in Tallula, Menard County, Illinois (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25,
2006.).
Notes for JOHN GUINAN:
John came to the States after his brothers, Patrick and Thomas. He worked on the railroad. He was killed in 1890 when he was
run over by a train.[3-2004 Morgan.FTW]
John came to the States after his brothers, Patrick and Thomas. He worked on the railroad. He was killed in 1890 when he was
run over by a train.
Notes for MARY MARGARET MAINES:
Mary moved back to New York after her husband John was killed by a train in 1890.[3-2004 Morgan.FTW]
Mary moved back to New York after her husband John was killed by a train in 1890.
Children of JOHN GUINAN and MARY MAINES are:
i. ELIZABETH3 GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1865, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
ii. THOMAS GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1867, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iii. MARY GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1868, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
5. iv. CATHERINE GUINAN, b. 1873, Illinois.
v. HANORAH GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1875, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
vi. ALICE GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1877, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
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vii. MICHAEL GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1879, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
3. PATRICK2 GUINAN (JOHN1) (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) was born Abt. 1840 in Newport,
Tipperary, Ireland (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.). He married MARY DOWNEY (Source: 3-
2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) Aug 20, 1865 in Menard County, IL. She was born Abt. 1845 in Ireland
(Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
Notes for PATRICK GUINAN:
Patrick and Mary Guinan are listed in the 1880 US Federal Census in Illinois, Menard County, Enumeration District 132
(Indian Creek Pct). Patrick is a farmer and Mary 'keeps house'. Both Patrick and Mary were born in Ireland; all of the children
were born in Illinois.
According to the 1900 Federal Census (Series T623, Roll 329, pg 265), the family lived in the Sand Ridge Precinct of Menard
County, Illinois. The seven youngest of the nine living children are with Patrick and Mary. (Census shows Mary gave birth to
10 children, nine of whom are living.) Patrick appears to have immigrated from Ireland to the US in 186? (possibly 1864) and
has been in the US 36 years in 1900. Patrick can read and write, and is a farmer who owns his own (mortgaged) farm. Both of
the oldest sons are 'farm laborers'.
Notes for MARY DOWNEY:
According to the 1900 Federal Census (Series T623, Roll 329, pg 265), Mary immigrated to the US in 1863 from Ireland. She
has been living in the US 37 years in 1900. She cannot read or write.
According to the 1910 Federal Census (Series T624, Roll 312, pg 263), Mary and her daughter, Mary G., lived in Petersburg,
Third Ward, Menard County, Illinois
Children of PATRICK GUINAN and MARY DOWNEY are:
i. JOHN3 GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Abt. 1867 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
ii. MARGARET GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Abt. 1869 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iii. EDWARD GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Abt. 1871 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iv. PATRICK A. GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Mar 1873 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
6. v. THOMAS F. GUINAN, b. Mar 1875, Ireland.
vi. ELIZABETH A. GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Feb 1876 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
vii. MICHAEL V. GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Mar 1880 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
viii. WILLIAM GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. May 1882 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
ix. MARY G. GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Sep 1884 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
4. THOMAS2 GUINAN (JOHN1) (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) was born Feb 1845 in Newport,
Tipperary, IR (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), and died Aug 17, 1918 in Springfield, Sangamon
County, IL (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.). He married JOHANNA RYAN (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) Abt. 1873. She was born Mar 1846 in Tipperary, IR (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), and died 1928 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
Notes for THOMAS GUINAN:
According to the 1900 Federal Census (Series T623, Roll 329, pg 240), Thomas and Johanna lived in Petersburg, First Precinct,
Second Ward, Menard County, Illinois with three of their children (John, Joseph and Della) in 1900. They have had eight
children, six of whom are still living. They have been married for 27 years. All in the home can read and write. They rent their
home. Thomas and the boys are all working as 'Coal miners' who were unemployed for two months of the previous year.
According to the 1910 Federal Census (Series T624, Roll 312, pg 260), Thomas and Johanna lived alone in Petersburg, First
3
Precinct, Second Ward, Menard County, Illinois in a home they now owned.
Notes for JOHANNA RYAN:
According to the 1900 Federal Census (Series T623, Roll 329, pg 240), Johanna immigrated to the US from Ireland in 1876.
Although Thomas' date of immigration is marked unknown, it may have been the same since they were married in 1873.
In the 1920 Census, Johanna is listed as living as the Head of Household on North Fifteenth St. in Springfield, Capitol
Township, Sangamon Township, IL. She is 75 years old and is living with her 35 year-old daughter, Elizabeth Ellis. (Elizabeth
is listed as born in Ireland, although her older brother John was born in Illinois. ) Johanna and her parents were born in Ireland.
She notes that she came to the US in 1890 and was naturalized in 1898.
Children of THOMAS GUINAN and JOHANNA RYAN are:
i. CATHERINE3 GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Dec 20, 1875 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.); m. MICHAEL MORGAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb
25, 2006.), 1902.
7. ii. JOHN T. GUINAN, b. Dec 1877, Petersburg, IL; d. 1948.
iii. JOSEPH PATRICK GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Mar 30, 1880 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iv. THOMAS GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Jul 12, 1882 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.); d. Jul 28, 1882 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25,
2006.).
v. ELIZABETH GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Abt. 1882 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.); m. ? ELLIS (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
Notes for ELIZABETH GUINAN:
By the 1920 Federal Census, Elizabeth Ellis is living on North Fifteenth St. with her mother Johanna. Johanna came to the
US in 1890 and was naturalized in 1898.
Elizabeth is listed as having been born in Ireland, though her older siblings were born in Illinois??[3-2004 Morgan.FTW]
By the 1920 Federal Census, Elizabeth Ellis is living on North Fifteenth St. with her mother Johanna. Johanna came to the
US in 1890 and was naturalized in 1898.
Elizabeth is listed as having been born in Ireland, though her older siblings were born in Illinois??
vi. BRIDGET GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Jul 03, 1884 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
vii. MARGARET M. GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), m. MICHAEL GAFFIGAN (Source:
3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), Feb 21, 1906.
viii. DELLA GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Jul 1886 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
Generation No. 3
5. CATHERINE3 GUINAN (JOHN2, JOHN1) (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) was born 1873 in
Illinois (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.). She married JEREMIAH PATRICK CRONAN (Source: 3-
2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
Children of CATHERINE GUINAN and JEREMIAH CRONAN are:
i. LEO4 CRONAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1897, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
ii. JOHN CRONAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Unknown, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iii. ARTHUR CRONAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1903, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iv. GEORGE CRONAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Unknown, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
6. THOMAS F.3 GUINAN (PATRICK2, JOHN1) (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) was born Mar 1875
in Ireland (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.). He married EVA ? (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) Abt. 1905. She was born Abt. 1884 in Illinois (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import:
4
Feb 25, 2006.).
Notes for THOMAS F. GUINAN:
According to the 1910 Federal Census (Series T624, Roll 312, pg 272), Thomas F. and Eva lived in Petersburg Precinct,
Menard County, Illinois. He is listed as a farmer who rents a farm.
According to the 1930 US Federal Census of District 15, R.D. #4 Petersburg, Sandridge Pct, Menard County, Illinois, Thomas
and Eva lived on a farm in Petersburg with their four children. Thomas' occupation is 'farmer' on 'grain farm'. His son Harold
is a laborer on the farm.
Children of THOMAS GUINAN and EVA ? are:
i. HAROLD4 GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Abt. 1906, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
ii. HAZEL GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Abt. 1911, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iii. ELIZABETH GUINAN, b. Abt. 1912.
iv. DORTHALYNE GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Abt. 1922 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
v. ELIZABETH GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. Abt. 1912 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
7. JOHN T.3 GUINAN (THOMAS2, JOHN1) (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.) was born Dec 1877 in
Petersburg, IL (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), and died 1948 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.). He married CATHERINE LYNCH (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.)
Nov 23, 1904 in Springfield, Sangamon County, IL, daughter of MICHAEL LYNCH and MARY BRANNIGAN. She was born 1883
in Springfield, IL (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), and died 1962 (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
Notes for JOHN T. GUINAN:
In the 1920 Federal Census, John Guinan lived in Springfield, Capitol Township, Sangamon County, ILL at 801 South
Seventeenth Street. His mother and his father are listed as born in Ireland. He was born in Illinois. His occupation is listed as
"miner" at "coal mine." He and his wife Catherine have 8 children living at home. Source: 1920 US Federal Census,
Sangamon County, Capital Township, Illinois, Springfield City, Precinct 49; Page 7B, E.D. 167.
1920 US FEDERAL CENSUS
Sangamon County, Capital Twp, Illinois, Springfield City, Precinct 49; Page 7B, E.D. 167, January 7, 1920, 801 South
Seventeenth Street, Springfield, IL
60: GUINAN, John, head, WM, 42, IL, Ireland, Ireland, Miner, Coal Mine
61: GUINAN, Katie, wife, WF, 36, IL, Ireland, Ireland
62: GUINAN, Mary, daughter, WF, 14, IL, IL, IL
63: GUINAN, Thomas, son, WM, 12, IL, IL, IL
63: GUINAN, Josephine, daughter, WF, 11, IL, IL, IL
64: GUINAN, Nellie, daughter, WF, 9, IL, IL, IL
65: GUINAN, Francis, son, WM, 7, IL, IL, IL
66: GUINAN, Elizabeth, daughter, WF, 5, IL, IL, IL
67: GUINAN, Lawrence, son, WM, 3 2/12, IL, IL, IL
68: GUINAN, William, son, WM, 1 2/12, IL, IL, IL
By April 2, 1930, at the time of the 1930 US Federal Census, they are living at 1223 Geyer Avenue, St. Louis Missouri with six
of their children: Nellie (19), Francis, Elizabeth, Lawrence, William, and Virginia:
1930 US FEDERAL CENSUS
St. Louis, St. Louis City (Independent City), 1223 Geyer Avenue, April 2, 1930, E.D. 379, Page 1A, 8th Ward, Roll: T626-
1230
38: GUINAN, John, head, WM, 50, married age 26, MO, Irish Free State, Irish Free State, Labor, Coal Mine
39: GUINAN, Katherine, wife, WF, 46, married age 22, IL, Irish Free State, Irish Free State, Laundry, Public Laundry
40: GUINAN, Nellie, daughter, WF, 19, IL, MO, IL, Laundry, Public Laundry
41: GUINAN, Francis, son, WM, 17, IL, MO, IL, None
5
42: GUINAN, Elizabeth, daughter, WF, 16, IL, MO, IL, None
43: GUINAN, Lawrence, son, WM, 14, IL, MO, IL, None
44: GUINAN, William, son, WM, 11, IL, MO, IL, None
45: GUINAN, Virginia, daughter, WF, 5, IL, MO, IL, None
Notes for CATHERINE LYNCH:
In the 1920 Federal Census, both of Catherine's parents are listed as born in Ireland. She is born in Illinois, as are all listed
children.
Children of JOHN GUINAN and CATHERINE LYNCH are:
i. MARY4 GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. May 29, 1905, Springfield, Ill (Source: 3-
2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.); d. Jul 21, 1991, Arnold, Jefferson County, MO (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.); m. JOHN THOMAS REPPLE (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import:
Feb 25, 2006.); b. Sep 11, 1905, Illinois (Source: (1) Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 2, Ed. 6, Social Security Death
Index: U.S., Date of Import: May 6, 1999, Internal Ref. #1.112.6.56066.8, (2) Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 2, Ed.
6, Social Security Death Index: U.S., Date of Import: May 6, 1999, Internal Ref. #1.112.6.56066.8, (3) 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.); d. Jun 1962 (Source: (1) Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol. 2, Ed. 6, Social Security
Death Index: U.S., Date of Import: May 6, 1999, Internal Ref. #1.112.6.56066.8, (2) Broderbund Family Archive #110, Vol.
2, Ed. 6, Social Security Death Index: U.S., Date of Import: May 6, 1999, Internal Ref. #1.112.6.56066.8, (3) 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
Notes for MARY GUINAN:
When Mary applied for her social security number, was Mrs. John Repple and lived at 2427 McNair Avenue, St. Louis, MO.
She worked at Stix, Baer and Fuller Co (a department store) at 601 Washington, St. Louis.
More About MARY GUINAN:
Social Security #: Nov 25, 1936, 488-03-3504 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.)
Notes for JOHN THOMAS REPPLE:
Thought to have been from Waterloo, IL
1920 US FEDERAL CENSUS:
St. Louis, St. Louis City (Independent City), Missouri, 2406 Thirteenth St., Ward 9, E.D. 401, Sheet 6A, April 4, 1930
14: REPPLE, John, head, 24, married age 20, IL, IL, IL, Inspector -- Mfg.
15: REPPLE, Mary, wife, 24, married age 20, IL, IL, IL, Laundress, Laundry
16: REPPLE, John, son, 2 11/12, MO, IL, IL
17: REPPLE, William, son, 4/12, MO, IL, IL
More About JOHN THOMAS REPPLE:
Social Security #: 498-10-7406, Issued in Missouri (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.)
ii. THOMAS GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1907, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iii. JOSEPHINE GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1908, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
iv. NELLIE GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1910, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
v. FRANCES GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1912, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
vi. ELIZABETH GUINAN, b. 1914, illinois.
vii. LAWRENCE GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1916, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
viii. WILLIAM GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1918, Illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
ix. VIRGINIA GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1924 (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW,
Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).
x. ELIZABETH GUINAN (Source: 3-2004 Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.), b. 1914, illinois (Source: 3-2004
Morgan.FTW, Date of Import: Feb 25, 2006.).

I don't know why it is dup-licating some of the rows but I think you can read it. That's all that I have.

Trish

Re: Guinan's in Philly

Starrr948 — 2009-05-04 14:24:00Z

My grandfather who is 90( William Robert Guinan), grandfather was a Thomas Guinan, his son which is my Grandfather father was named John T Guinan, Thomas was married to a Johanna Ryan according to my records Thomas lived 1843-1918, my grandfather was born in Springfield Il don't know if this helps
Trudi

Re: GUINAN family ORIGIN

guinaneg — 2009-06-15 04:16:43Z

Hi Bill
Many thanks for your posting. Sorry to have to inform you that (with the greatest respect to your correspondent from Offaly) that there is close to zero possibility of his story of the origin of the Guinan family being true.

Taking it point by point ..he states that

1. Gunning is anglo-saxon name settled in Ireland in the 1600s
The Gunning name in Ireland is derived from the native celtic name
2. Guinan is a derivative of Gunning
3. Gunnings were probably knights and noblemen who were granted lands in Offaly by the Fitzgeralds

1. Gunnning is not an Anglo-Saxon name - rather it is derived from the celtic name O'Cuning or O'Conuing which is linked with a small barony in Limerick (O'Cuning of Crioch) thus predating the Anglo-Saxon era by many hundreds of years.
Search for this book in google books and look up Gunning:
The book of Irish families, great & small
By Michael C. O'Laughlin
Edition: 3, illustrated
Published by Irish Roots Cafe, 2002

2. Guinan (and my name Guinane) both come from a completely different root - O'Cuineáin/O'Cuinneáin and are so not related in any way with Gunning. This origin of the Guinane name is widely documented in many authorative sources such as MacLysaghts Irish Surnames.

3. Gunnings were Anglo-Saxon noblemen
I have done no investigation of this family as it is a separate tribe to mine. However I will offer the opinion that there is no possibility that a noble anglo clan would have settled in Ireland in the 1600s and changed their name to include the Irish form of O' as in O'Cuning. It would be a relatively simple matter for anyone to lookup the english nobility records and land grants to prove me wrong as these records were carefully preserved in England.

The theory that I am exploring is essentially that the Guinane/Guinan/Kinnanes are river people originating in the Kildysert parish of County Clare and specifically on the Shannon/Fergus river islands who migrated along the Shannon River to Limerick/Tipperary/Galway and even Offaly. This is a work in progress. Maybe by the end of the Summer I will have put together the definitive documented proof (or otherwise). But what I can tell you is that the evidence does exist and so it is a matter of putting it together. I hope to build a picture of the Guinane population at different points in time such that as the clock is 'reversed' you will see the contraction of the distribution to an ever smaller and denser footprint.

Best Regards
Gerry

Guinan's in Philly

bguin34 — 2009-05-04 14:26:05Z

My ggrandfather (on my father's side), Thomas J. Guinan was born in Tipperary, Ireland December 21, 1865. I believe he could be the son of Patrick and Honoria (Ryan) of Killenaule. He immigrated thru Boston (sometime between 1880 - 1883) and eventually settled in Philly. Married Kate Fogarty and had 2 sons John b1898 and Percy b1894 and a daughter Katherine b1912. Interesting that on my MOTHER's side, her uncle married Helen Guinan who I believe to be one of Bernard and Susan's children. Helen was born abt 1903. While my parents and grandparents were alive, we were never able to connect these two sides of the family.
Am looking for any information on Thomas Guinan.

Guinan's In Tipperary

bguin34 — 2008-05-16 03:06:16Z

Looking for information about the family of Patrick Guinan (born about 1842) of Tipperary County. Patrick married Hanoria Ryan and had two sons - Thomas and James and a daughter, Mary. Thomas' birth record appears in Killenaule on December 22, 1865. James and Mary were born 1872 and 1868 respectively. Thomas left Ireland about 1882 for Boston, Massachusetts and eventually settled in Philadelphia. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Guinan name changed to Guinen

PegG1380 — 2009-05-11 02:13:06Z

Just came across your post. I am married to a Guinen with all the same family members names you mentioned...and similar family stories. I did find many misspelling in the names when searching and 'found' ancestors almost by accident. I believe my husband may be related to your father. I have not heard of John's whereabouts for some time, last I heard he was in New Hampshire and moved to Florida. If this is the same John Guinen, please contact me for further updates. Do you have
any brothers and sisters? What state are you from?

Re: Guinane Churh and civil records.

accypete — 2008-12-09 22:24:37Z

Hi Toni
We have talked before I believe it was regard a "Mason" and a "Guinane" traveling from Accrington to the USA New York or Canada Montreal by ship together.
I will post more records when I get round to throwing more money at "it" all the records I posted were records that I couldnt connect too although as you are aware thats not to say that there was/is no connection.
There are a at least a few 100 records to go at just from Tipperary and at 5 EURO a go it can get a little exspensive so the more records people post the better. I have already posted records that I know are of my family but not here I will do at some point.
If I do come across any Guinane Curry I will of course let you know.(is it Mary Curry )
I have just joined Face Book ...not every bodies cup of tea but if you search for Guinane on there theres a lot of people carrying the name . As you would expect mostly youngsters but some leave their addresses and a little information.
good luck
Pete flynn
accypete@hotmail.com

Guinane records

accypete — 2008-11-23 18:33:57Z

Hi all here are a few guinane records that I have purchased during my searches . hopfully some one will gain somthing from them. Please should any one else have records could you post them here so we all make use of them.

Date of Marriage: 01/03/1870
Parish /district Thurles
Husband Wife
Name Patrick Guinane Margaret Shanahan
Address Borrisoliegh. Friar street
Denomination Civil parish Civil parish
Occupation Shoemaker
Age Not given 20
Status Bachelor (previously unmarried) Spinster reviously unmarried)

Husband’s father Wife’s father
Name William Guinane Michael Shanahan
Address.Not Given. Not Given
Denomination. Not Given. Not Given
Occupation. Shoemaker. Dealer.
Husband’s mother Wife’s Mother
Name Not given. Not Given
Address.Not Given. Not Given
Denomination.Not Given. Not Given
Occupation. Not Given. Not Given
Witness1. Witness2
Name John Ryan. Catherine Shanahan.

Baptism Church record RC
Name. Bridget Guinane.
Date 06/10/1886
Address Muklin.
Parish Silvermines
Gender. Female.
County Tipperary
Father Michael Guinane Mother Winifred Hogan
Sponser
Informant 1 Ned Mara Informant 2 Bgt Gleeson

Baptism Church record RC
Name. Eliza Guinane.
Date 18/02/1884
Address Not given
Parish Borrisokane
Gender. Female.
County Tipperary
Father Silvester Guinane Mother Eliza Collins
Sponser
Informant 1 Thomas Hayes Informant 2 Sarah Cassidy

Baptism Church record RC
Name. Ellen Guinane.
Date 11/02/1887
Address Balyfarm
Parish Silvermines
Gender. Female.
County Tipperary
Father Martin Guinane Mother Mary II
Sponser
Informant 1 Tom Jordan Informant 2 Mgt Conway

Baptism Church record RC
Name. Mary Guinane.
Date 20/02/1885
Address Not Given
Parish Silvermines
Gender. Female.
County Tipperary
Father Martin Guinane Mother Margaret Quirk
Sponser
Informant 1 James Reidy Informant 2 Mgt Kean

Baptism Church record RC
Name. Patrick Ginane.
Date 16/03/1858
Address Not Given
Parish Youghalarra
Gender. Male.
County Tipperary
Father John Ginane Mother Margaret Flynn
Sponser
Informant 1 Thos Ginane Informant 2 Cath Ginane

Baptism Church record RC
Name. Patrick Guinane.
Date 15/06/1850
Address Youghal
Parish Youghalarra
Gender. Male
County Tipperary
Father John Guinane Mother Winifred Neil
Sponser
Informant 1 MI Neil Informant 2 Honora Neil

Baptism Church record RC
Name. John Guinane.
Date 16/09/1863
Address Not Given
Parish Nenagh
Gender. Male
County Tipperary
Father Thomas Guinane Mother Catherine Gleeson
Sponser
Informant 1 John Flannery Informant 2 Mary Ryan

Birth Civil
Name. Patrick Guinane.
Date 16/04/1864
Address Lismore
Parish Toomevara
Gender. Male
County Tipperary
Father John Guinane Mother Kate Quin
OcupationLabourer
Sponser
Informant 1 Kate Guinane Informant 2 Not given

Baptism Church record RC
Name. Patrick Guinane.
Date 26/0431864
Address Lismore
Parish Toomevara
Gender. Male
County Tipperary
Father John Guinane Mother Catherine Quin
Ocupation Not Given
Sponser
Informant 1 John Guinane Informant 2 Bridget Ryan

thanks

Pete

Guinane Churh and civil records.

accypete — 2008-11-23 18:31:56Z

Re: Guinane /Bridget francis, Patrick, Bridget,Dan,and John may be of help?

accypete — 2008-04-07 22:54:56Z

I have found further information on my Guinane's
Marriage Record for: Patrick Guinane and Bridget Ryan
Date of Marriage: 22/05/1881
Parish / District: SILVERMINES County: Co. Tipperary
Husband Wife
Name: Patrick Guinane Bridget Ryan
Address: Not Recorded Ballinaclough
Denomination:Roman Catholic Roman Catholic

Witness 1 Witness 2
Name: Patrick Hacket ?Ryan

Daniel Guinane son of Patrick John Guinane
Civil Birth Record
Name: Daniel Guinane
Date Baptism / Birth: 02/01/1882
Address: Ballinaclogh Parish / District:NENAGH Co. Tipperary
Denomination:Catholic (Civil Record)

Father: John Guinane Mother: Bridget Ryan
Occupation: Labourer
Sponsor 1 / Mary Morrissy

Notes: twin of John guinane

Civil Birth Record
Name: Bridget Guinane
Date of Baptism / Birth: 01/12/1886
Address: Summerhill Nenagh Parish / District:NENAGH .Tipperary
Gender: Female
Denomination: catholic (Civil Record)
Father: Patrick Guinane Mother:Bridget Ryan
Occupation: Labourer
Sponsor 1 Bridget Guinane Sponsor 2 / Not Recorded

Church Baptism Record for: Catherine Guinane
Name: Catherine Guinane
Date of Baptism / Birth: 06/01/1883
Address: Smines Parish / District:SILVERMINES CoTipperary
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father Patrick Guinane Mother:Bridget Ryan
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /Ned Gleeson
Sponsor 2 /Mary Ryan

Church Baptism Record for: Ellen Hennessy
Church Baptism Record
Name: Ellen Hennessy
Date of Baptism / Birth: 28/06/1874
Address: Ballynaclough Parish / District:SILVERMINES
Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: William Hennessy Mother: Bridget Ryan
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 Andrew Boland Sponsor 2 Mgt Griffin

Church Baptism Record
Name:John Guinane
Date of Baptism / Birth: 04/01/1882
Address: Ballinaclough Parish / District:SILVERMINES
Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Patrick Guinane Mother: Bridget Ryan
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 Jeremiagh Engliton Sponsor 2 Kate Griffin

Re: GUINANE FAMILY of ANNAGH TOWNLAND, MURROE, LIMERICK

accypete — 2008-02-25 02:56:37Z

Hi Nancy

Do you know anything else re PATRICK GUINANE (bap: Mar 3, 1864).
I have a Patrick Guinane born roughly about that time in Ireland- married a Bridget (may be a Ryan or an Hennessey)Living in Accrington, Lancashire, England in 1901 (UK census)Charter Street

My Patrick had at least 4 children Catherine, John, Dan, Bridget. I believe there were more children ....Ellen,Ellen I believe took the name Hennessey.
Bridget I have been told was born in Nenagh Tipperary although I have no proof of this.
Dan married a Barbara Ferguson and is found traveling to the USA with either freinds or relatives (Mason's) from Accrington England . The final destination being shown as Montreal Canada (shown as Guinann).
Catherine (Kate) Guinane married Ehpriam Mayes in Accrington.
John Guinane no information other than living in Accrington (1901 UK census)
Bridget Guinane (daughter) married Charles Flynn In Accrington in 1907 sacred heart church aged about 21 and died there in 1964.
Ellen Hennessey marred a riley in Accrington.Sacred Heart Church.

any help would be great
Pete Flynn
ps sorry re the spelling (I hate anything without a spell check !)

Re: Guinane /Bridget francis, Patrick, Bridget,Dan,and John may be of help?

bobgray55 — 2009-03-21 02:53:35Z

I and a number of others have been doing research on your Guinan family. Martin Guinan who married Mary Nelson, who was his second wife. His first wife was Katherine Shepard and is the branch we were descended from. Have oodles of information which I would like to share with you. My email address is bgray@stratsight.com Can we talk?

Patrick Guinan

ahammclem — 2008-03-11 20:26:00Z

looking for info on a Patrick Guinan, b. 1794 in Ireland and his wife, Mary Farrel, also b. 1794 in ireland. They had a daughter, Anna Maria born in Ohio or Ohio Co., Ky..

Any info would be very helpful.

Re: GUINANE FAMILY of ANNAGH TOWNLAND, MURROE, LIMERICK

NancyPeregrine — 2008-02-25 05:04:25Z

My Patrick Guinane, son of Thomas Guinane & Bridget Casey, of Annagh Townland, Murroe Parish, Co Limerick , who was baptised Mar 5, 1864, married Margaret Morgan in Chicago. He became an attorney.
Above Thomas Guinane, baptised Jan 4, 1818 in Murroe, was the first child of Timothy Guinane & Mary Rainsford of Murroe.
It is quite likely that your Patrick was from a related Guinane line, as the name was not very common, and Nenagh isn't far. Descendants of "my" Guinane's live in Nenagh today.
I'm currently trying to find the siblings of Timothy Guinane & will post anything I find.
Best wishes,
Nancy

Re: GUINANE FAMILY of ANNAGH TOWNLAND, MURROE, LIMERICK

NancyPeregrine — 2008-01-16 15:38:44Z

My Bridget Casey died in Annagh, Murroe, a parish east of Limerick City. The Casey farm was near my Guinane farm there.
So I think your line is a different one - good luck! You can order certificates (once dates & names are known) from www.genfindit.org (or.com).

Re: Guinane /Bridget francis, Patrick, Bridget,Dan,and John may be of help?

andycrowell — 2009-01-04 16:58:04Z

My great grandmother Nora Guinan had a brother Patrick Guinan (Patsy). Nora was born in 1887 or 1888, she was born in Brooklyn, NY but her parents Martin Guinan and Mary Nelson were from Ireland. Martin born 1851 and Mary 1858. They had other children, Mary (Mae), Julia, Margaret, Helen, James, and Thomas. I am not certain what part of Ireland they were from or if our ancestors were related at all.....

Hope this helps a little!

Guinan Transportation to Australia

kmillington1 — 2008-10-25 06:13:10Z

My ancestor Anne Guinan (born ?1829), was transported to Hobart Tasmania , Australia with her young daughter Ann (born 1842. They were transported from County Kildare in 1851 aboard the Black Friar. I don't know if Anne was unmarried at the time of transportation and her name was perhaps her spouse's name but I believe that this was her maiden name as she married in Tasmania in 1853. There is anecdotal evidence that her father was John and she had siblings called John, Thomas, Patrick and Bridget. Can any one help affirm her place in Kildare or her family in Ireland

Re: Update on Guinnane/Guinan Family in ILLINIOS

uaw685 — 2008-11-03 00:48:57Z

up date this is the st louis branch Iam the son of william r guinan sr the youngest yet I believe oldest living relative to Thomas Guinan the coal miner who had a son named John Thomas Guinan also a coal miner whch is my grand father he died in 1948 of black lung in st louis. He had Thomas, Frank , larry , My father Bill, Nellie , Liz.Joey , Mary ,Virgina was the youngest she was born in st louis. kate guinan was my grand mother her maiden name was lynch , Johanna is my great grand mother Thomas is my great grand father. Do you have any informantion on His relatives in Ireland and who was his Mother and Father I have photographs alot of photographs,please contact me billibbbb@gmail.com Iam new to this ,I started because my Father just turned 90 i want this for him to see and for all his grandchildern we have a picnic every year when I was small they had close to 400 Guinans and relatives

Re: Chicago Guinane Family

seanlynch124 — 2008-10-26 22:57:11Z

In Tipperary the Quinane and Guinane name was KINANE.Hence you had no joy looking up your ancestry in Tipp.Try Kinane,Upperchurch,Tipperary.Good Luck.

Re: Guinan name changed to Guinen

alanguinen53 — 2009-05-11 02:13:37Z

don;t leave out my father edmund guinen,got info if needed.alan guinen at ruggles5726@aol.com.phone 413-4455783

Re: Guinans in Offaly

Jacki_Donovan — 2008-02-27 22:02:17Z

Bit of an update , have since discovered My G Grandmother Margaret (wife of Peter Guinan )was a Gleeson. Found this out through from my Aunt , so asking the family can really pay off sometimes. I`m slowly gathering little bits of information on this side of the family but was somewhat spoilt by having lots of baptism, war records and photo`s on my paternal side!

Guinans in Offaly

Jacki_Donovan — 2008-01-13 22:12:50Z

Hi there , I`m looking for info on my Great Grand Parents. I have a little detail , they were Peter Guinan b.1882 - d.1949 and Margaret (maiden name unknown) b.c1880-d.1937 in Offaly.
They had 4 children John b.c.1904, Margaret (my Grandmother) b.c.1905,Patrick b.c.1906 and Nora b.c1907. My Grandmother was born in Ballynaguilsha , Offaly.
Anyone recognise the locations or names then let me know.

Re: Guinan name changed to Guinen

MeElaine42 — 2009-05-11 02:12:14Z

He had one brother, William, 4 sisters, Jeanette. Marjorie, Evelyn and Ruth,

Re: Family of either Bernard or Francis Guinan

guinans158 — 2009-04-10 14:36:22Z

My Grandfather was the Francis Guinan you've mentioned in your post. Francis Guinan lived in Philadelphia and had 5 children, Charles, Mary(Sissy), Helen, Rita and Catherine(Cassie). The two children that are still living are Rita Schour of Boca Raton, Fl and Cassie Grubb of Medford Lakes, NJ. I am the son of Charles E. Guinan who had 8 children that now live up and down the east coast. I live in Delaware and I've been given some information about the family tree which I'll be happy to share with you if you're interested. Please email at guinans@msn.com.

Re: GUINANE FAMILY of ANNAGH TOWNLAND, MURROE, LIMERICK

kazlee1965 — 2008-01-16 01:28:55Z

Hi, my name is Karen O'Casey.
I think I am somehow related to Bridgett O'Casey.
I notice she died in NSW Australia.
My Father was Patrick Michael Terrence O'Casey, and we seem to be the only O'Caseys in Australia at the moment.
He thought his mothers name was Mary Cathleen Murphy, but he also thought the Mary Cathleen might have been the ship they came out on, He also thought he came from Tasmania after leaving County Cork Ireland.
There is evidence that my dads real name was Michael, and we think his dads name was Michael, his dad was apprantly a sailor.
At some stage my dad became a orphan, but he couldn't remember details which was rather annoying.
I am hoping we can help each other,
Sincerely, Karen Lee O'Casey.

Re: Guinan family

mpspo12 — 2008-01-05 02:21:39Z

Hello from a Guinan in Boston. My own family came from the Shannon Harbor area where Roscommon/Offaly meet. I've been doing some digging in this area, although there's only a few Guinans left there. Is there any way you would share any of the genealogy your family member compiled, or is it online anywhere? My gr gr grandfather was Patrick Guinan, married to Mary Furey. Anything sound familiar?

By the way, there's a gentleman named Sharmin ? (I can dig up his last name) who has been also looking for Guinans and Kennys in this area, and he mentioned the name Valentine as well. Perhaps you've read some of his postings?

Good luck to everyone in their searches. Dottie G. My email is dotpat@comcast.net

James Francis Guinan

ChrisBLynch — 2009-05-11 02:16:53Z

Looking for info on James Francis Guinan from Ireland who married Catherine ??? Catherine was born in New York Nov 1849. They had 5 children, Catherine, Mary Ann b. 1867 NY she married Edward Lynch, John J. b. Nov 1869, William M. b. 1873 NY, and James Francis Jr. b. Nov 1877 d. 1949. They lived at 77 Roosevelt Street in Manhattan. Any info would be great,

Re: GUINAN NAME

richkimguinan — 2008-04-19 22:01:41Z

Hello My name is Rich Guinan, Im trying to research my family as well.Maybe this can help from the Guinan family registry Michael Guinan emigrated to New York on the steamer Swan in the year 1848 He was a farmer who came from county cork ireland and was 28 years old. Also I was just on a geneology website the mormons have its free and you can put the name first and last to get more info Hope it helps GOOD LUCK Rich for the website just put geneology and it will pop up