The Name is much older...
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The Name is much older...
| Juergen Haberstock (View posts) | Posted: 22 Sep 2002 11:34AM GMT |
Classification: Query
Dear Fellow Researchers,
in one or the other comments about our Surname and its origin, there seem to be a great many mistakes and assumptions, that are most easliy corrected.
The Name reaches not only into the 15th Century, but was in fact recorded as early as the 12th century. The correct spelling of ti then was Habenstock, which was a certain way back then to not only signify that the bearer of the name was of some decent origin, but that he owned land and animal as well. In
this respect, those of the Habenstock "tribe" where rural people of good societal recognition and income, located in the Swabian Mountains right at the feet of the Alps. Back then Swabia was not necessarily Bavarian either. In due course though it became part of the bavarian Courts. As the Prince-Resindent of Bavaria was holding Court at Landshut in Lower Bavaria at a time, when Munich was not yet known as much more than a place of the monks (Monichen= where the monks are). Landshut was then the center of Bavaria in every respect. So it is only natural that Habenstocks where also drawn there, yet never left their original place in Swabia at all. As a matter of fact, ther can be many Haberstocks be found there.
Later, when the bavarian kingdom seeked to reach beyond its realm, plans to colonize the plains further east and south were carried out. Known still today as the "Danube Swabs", settlers from the southwestern corners of Bavaria were made to settle in what is today Hungary and places east and south of it, streching as fas as the Ural Mountains in Russia. Those returning nowadays under a policy of recognizing their descent of german origin.
Yet the entire origin of our people, regardless of the name and its inception, it is most certain, that we are direct descendants of a great warring tribe, that has crossed the lands and plains on their vast trek from lands far away- they originated in the area of what is today part of mongolia, north-western china, northern india and afghanistan- the great and feared indo-germanian people- still to be revered today in Northeast Pakistan and Nothwest India. Some descendant of this tribe can still be seen there. Light of colour with blue eyes and blonde hair - an astonishing sight.
in one or the other comments about our Surname and its origin, there seem to be a great many mistakes and assumptions, that are most easliy corrected.
The Name reaches not only into the 15th Century, but was in fact recorded as early as the 12th century. The correct spelling of ti then was Habenstock, which was a certain way back then to not only signify that the bearer of the name was of some decent origin, but that he owned land and animal as well. In
this respect, those of the Habenstock "tribe" where rural people of good societal recognition and income, located in the Swabian Mountains right at the feet of the Alps. Back then Swabia was not necessarily Bavarian either. In due course though it became part of the bavarian Courts. As the Prince-Resindent of Bavaria was holding Court at Landshut in Lower Bavaria at a time, when Munich was not yet known as much more than a place of the monks (Monichen= where the monks are). Landshut was then the center of Bavaria in every respect. So it is only natural that Habenstocks where also drawn there, yet never left their original place in Swabia at all. As a matter of fact, ther can be many Haberstocks be found there.
Later, when the bavarian kingdom seeked to reach beyond its realm, plans to colonize the plains further east and south were carried out. Known still today as the "Danube Swabs", settlers from the southwestern corners of Bavaria were made to settle in what is today Hungary and places east and south of it, streching as fas as the Ural Mountains in Russia. Those returning nowadays under a policy of recognizing their descent of german origin.
Yet the entire origin of our people, regardless of the name and its inception, it is most certain, that we are direct descendants of a great warring tribe, that has crossed the lands and plains on their vast trek from lands far away- they originated in the area of what is today part of mongolia, north-western china, northern india and afghanistan- the great and feared indo-germanian people- still to be revered today in Northeast Pakistan and Nothwest India. Some descendant of this tribe can still be seen there. Light of colour with blue eyes and blonde hair - an astonishing sight.