Hammill - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: John Hammill - Ireland to Minnesota

tommollypat — 2009-09-09 16:52:37Z

I am the daughter of John Delbert Hammill, son of John Hammill Jr and one of the last Hammill's to live on the original estate on Prior lake in Minnesota.

My name is Margaret (Peggy) Hammill Zimmer

Re: John Hammill - Ireland to Minnesota

AngelaH — 2009-08-18 13:36:51Z

I have some newspaper articles and one is an interview with John Hammill's son in 1928. He said that his father came from Ireland (no other location was provided), that he worked as a stone mason, bridge building and road grading before moving to MN in 1852. (Am not sure if this was in Ireland or possibly in NY that he had these jobs.) Article also said he was married when he came. However, their first daughter was born in NY in 1854 (from multiple censuses) so that is a bit confusing.

Re: Hammill family from Ireland to Philadelphia

phealy197 — 2009-08-17 17:15:24Z

I am a documentary filmmaker in Nebraska working on a project involving WW2 fighter pilots. One of the pilots was Millard F. Arnett, Jr. His wife's mom (Caroline Louise Wells Snider) divorced, then re-married an Edward Charles Hamill (born 29 JULY 1913 in Jerome, PA. Parents Patrick James and Mary). We have never been able to locate anyone in the Arnett family.

We know Edward died 18 JULY 2001 in Las Vegas, NV, but cannot find any trace of family or an obit. Is this Hamill any relation to the family you are researching?

Re: John Hammill - Ireland to Minnesota

AngelaH — 2009-08-14 23:34:34Z

You are correct. The name Burus came from another researcher (my cousin). I have since ordered & rec'd a death certificate for John Hammill (son of John & Ann) and it states that his mother's surname was Burns. Burus really stumped me!

Unfortunately I have no idea where they came from within Ireland. They were Catholic and their daughter Alice married an immigrant from Kilkenny. I've ordered some obituaries from the Scott County Historical Society and am hoping they will answer some questions. I will post what I find here in case we have any ancestors in common. I REALLY appreciate your offer to look for my Hammills in NY records. I know that Mary was born there, but don't know if John and Ann arrived from Ireland as a couple or met and married in NY.

Re: John Hammill - Ireland to Minnesota

dfhamill1 — 2009-08-14 22:53:47Z

Just a quick note-Burus doesn't sound Irish to me-it may be that the name was Burns-old handwriting could make the "n" look like a "u".I am doing research on Hamill(Hammill)from Ireland to NY and yonder. Do you have an idea where in Ireland they were from?I'll see if I can find anything for you in NY records.

John Hammill - Ireland to Minnesota

AngelaH — 2009-07-29 22:39:31Z

Hoping to find others researching John J. Hammill, born about 1818 in Ireland. I don't know when he immigrated, but his first daughter Mary was born in NY in 1853. His wife, Ann (Burus?), was also from Ireland (abt 1825) but I don't know if they came together or met in NY. They settled in Glendale, Scott County, MN as farmers and the remaining children were born there: Rose (abt 1855), John (1858), and Alice (1865). I believe John and Ann died while living in Scott County since I don't find them after 1880.

If anyone has any connection to this family, please let me know as I would be happy to collaborate.

Re: James Hammill

dnjjn1 — 2009-06-26 04:23:03Z

Yep, I have a Great Grandfather (Frederick R Hammill) B 1857 who had a father James Hammill 1828 both from Cornwall England. I'm doing a Hammill family History and some of my Relatives are from around Sale Maffra Bundalaguah area Vic Australia. Also Drummond on my Grandmothers side. Please send word if you can help me with this project, or I can assist you.

Information

mblossom184 — 2009-02-02 23:47:40Z

Looking for information on Henry Hamill how came to the US in 1849 from Belfast, Ireland, his wife's name was Mary ??
They had a daughter Mary Jane who married a Thomas Meade.
Does anyone have any information. Thank you, Bev

Re: Hammill in Ontario

wheelsdwh — 2008-10-18 15:49:27Z

Hi Dan, there are a few Hammill families from the Guelph area. My ggg Grandparents first settled near Clinton / Seaforth in Huron Co about 1842... William Hammill & Mary Jane Stinson. One of their son's, Joseph, moved west and settled in Carstairs.
My grandparents settled in Singhampton.

Re: Hammill in Ontario

wheelsdwh — 2008-10-18 14:15:39Z

Greetings ... greating hearing from you!
My G Grandparents were William Roy Hammill & Mary Ellen McLean (Masie). I was born and raised 15 min's from Singhampton so I am sure I know your dad. My email address is hammill_doug@hotmail.com Looking forward to hearing from you.

Re: Hammill in Ontario

canadiankat — 2008-10-18 07:25:59Z

I'm sorry its taken me so long to reply- I didn't realise that there were replies to this message.
Anyway....
Thats very odd and sort of cool that we are from the same side etc.
Which line do you follow? I'm pretty sure that you would know my dad if you are in the Hammill clan and spent anytime in Singhampton. I dont want to put his name on here but feel free to send me a message.
In answer to your other message...any info on Mervin would be great. I got his army records from the govt and they are pretty interesting.
Hope to hear from you soon.

Re: Hammill in Ontario

Dan_Hammill — 2008-10-18 05:43:23Z

Hmm I must be related to this. I lived in Guelph Ontario my whole life but I'm in Calgary now. I have the William name. William Daniel Hammill.

Re: B.C. Hammill's

wheelsdwh — 2008-10-17 00:21:04Z

Thanks for the information, this is a great help!
Looking forward to see where this leads me now.
Cheers

Re: B.C. Hammill's

76511317 — 2008-10-15 00:52:34Z

Bill Grosskleg was the first mayor of Lake Cowichan where there is an historic plaque on their heritage house and a street is named after him: Grosskleg Way. The brass plaque is on the house at 75 South Shore Road in Lake Cowichan. William (Bill) M. Frederick Grosskleg (14 Jun 1886 – 14 Dec 1952) owned a logging company and was married to Helen Grace Hammill (25 Feb 1898 – 12 Jan 1981). Helen was the first teacher at the one-room school there. The incorporation of the village of Lake Cowichan was due to Bill's efforts – it became a town officially 26 Nov 1996. Later, Ron and Sheila Kenyon lived there and they published the “Lake News” newspaper.

Re: Finding Hammill's related to my family

wahammill — 2008-10-07 03:16:53Z

My in-laws are HAMMILL's from the Altoona, PA area. My father-in-law was one of 12 children and still has a sister, Dorothy Hammill, living in PA.

B.C. Hammill's

wheelsdwh — 2008-08-10 02:25:48Z

Searching for any information George Hammill and his family.
GEORGE HAMMILL was born May 26, 1866 in Seaforth Ontario., and died Jan 06, 1927 in British Columbia, Canada.. He married ANNIE GRACE SHARP, daughter of FRED SHARP. She was born Aug 10, 1866 in Ontario, Canada, and died Oct 29, 1961 in Victoria, BC.
Children of GEORGE HAMMILL and ANNIE SHARP are:
i.DOROTHY HAMMILL, b. Jul 02, 1894, Collingwood, Ontario; m. GEORGE WILKINSON, Jun 06, 1923, Victoria, BC.
ii.HERBERT STINSON HAMMILL, b. Sep 22, 1896, Collingwood, Ontario; d. Feb 04, 1983, Central Sannich, Victoria, BC; m. GLADYS FLORENCE BRINKMAN, May 08, 1929, b. Aug 1899; d. Dec 19, 1984, Victoria, BC.
iii.HELEN GRACE HAMMILL, b. Feb 25, 1898, Collingwood, Ontario; m. FREDERICK W. GROSSKLEG, Dec 25, 1919, Victoria, BC.
iv.FLORENCE STEWART HAMMILL, b. Nov 21, 1900, Collingwood, Ontario; m. SAMUEL HERBERT ROBBINS, Feb 01, 1922, Victoria, BC.

Hammill/Hamil

lindseyd50 — 2008-08-06 18:49:56Z

Glasgow Census 1851 - Mary Ann Hammill (housekeeper) Widow
children Catherine 20 Mary 16 Hellan 18, Bridget 17,All born in Ireland dont know where.

Mary 16 is my gg grandmother. ?married andrew gibbin, mother of john gibbin/gibbon,
John Gibbon married a Maryann Rooney,1881 had two children Jessie and Andrew.I think Andrew went to Vancouver.
Jessie changed name to McGibbon
Anyone any suggestions on how to find out more about Mary Ann Hammill Im stuck.

Re: Finding Hammill's related to my family

lcase132 — 2008-06-25 19:43:32Z

My name is Larry Hammill Case and my parents were Claude Case and Lucy Amber Hammill Case from Caseyville Ms. I was born in Brookhaven Ms. and presently live in New orleans,La.
Our family is kin to practicaly every one in Lincoln County, Ms. I had three brothers who are now deceased. Rodolph Case, Philip Carson Case and Will Aubrey Case.My two sisters are still present ,Claudia Case Thames and Marilyn Case Flowers. I would be interested in finding out more about my relatives and background of just where we all came from and who all we are related to.My mother use to talk about our Indian heritage on the Cherokee tribe side and every one laughs when I tell them that but I don't think she was lying about it. My brother Rudy was a prisoner of war in Stalag Luft 1 in Barth Germany and was shot down while on a bombing raid in WWII over Gotha Germany. He was part of the 409th bomb wing and was a flight officer on a B-24 Liberator. He served with Teds Traveling Circus flight group and was a member of the USAF TRIAD group after the war was over up until the time he retired from the military. My Grand father was "Buck" Case and my grand mother was Minnie Case. My parents families were married to the Cases and the Hammills as I have a few double aunts and uncles. If there is any one out there that knows anything about this set of families I would love to hear from you.
Thanks,
Larry Hammill Case

Re: James HAMMILL married Jessie McCULLOCH 1892 Ontario Canada

2006-12-02 04:48:15Z

Just started researching my family from my uncle's notes and saw your message. My relative, James Cyrus Hammill was born on December 17th, 1874, 6th child of James Edward Hammill (1829 Onondago Twsp) and Jane McGregor (1840-1920). His siblings were Eleanor, William, Annie, Maratha, Sarah, Phoebe and Eldest brother George from his father's first marriage to Martha Clement. I know DOB is wrong but does anything match?

Finding Hammill's related to my family

2006-04-19 03:45:43Z

I am looking for Hammill's related to my dad,Henry G Hammill. He was the eldest of 5 children.Some are in IN,PA.Not sure about any others. I"d like to be in contact with cousins I've never even met. Anybody out there?

James Hammill

2005-11-15 22:49:31Z

James Hammill married Ann Boden in NYC 1871,lived in NJ in1880.

Re: Hamill/Hammill in Pittsburgh area

2005-11-05 00:00:40Z

Please try
http://www.rootsweb.com/~pahsc/
maybe try;
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~njm1/tombs.htm
http://digital.library.pitt.edu/pittsburgh/ & site map & full text simple search
www.wpgs.org/
not my family

HAMMILL

2005-09-06 09:17:15Z

I LOOKING FOR ANY ONE WHO HAS HISTORY ON MY GRANDPA JOESPH WILLARD HAMMILL DIED AUG 141975 BORN IN 1901 LINDEN WI ALSO MARRIED A RASBECK IN 1947 ANY INFO GRATLY APPRECATTIED LIKE TO TO KNOW SIBBLES PARENTS ECT THANKS

Hammills in Franklin & St. Lawrence Counties in NY

2005-07-24 20:31:34Z

I'm looking for information on Michael Hammill and his wife Elizabeth Sedgewich (sp?) who came to northern NY by way of Montreal, Que, around early 1800s. They had several children among them John who married Sara McCalley, MacCauley. Michael may have settled and died in Potsdam, NY (St. Lawrence Co) while John settled in Hogansburg, NY and helped to found the Catholic church there in about 1835, St. Patricks (pixs attached). Many of these Hammills settled around Massena, Brasher Falls, etc.

Any help will be appreciated.

Joe Hammill

Re: alex and mary hammill

2005-06-01 02:17:24Z

HI i AM WORKING ON MCENROE FROM AMENIA, NEW YORK. I HAVE MARGARET HAMMILL MCENROE WHO MARRIED TO EDWARD AND THEY HAD DAUGHTER NAMED AGATHA CARRIE MCENROE AND AS WEILL A SON CHARLES MCENROE. THEY BOTH BORN IN AMENIA NEW YORK. I DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE OF INFOMRATION ON MARGARET HAMMILL.

Re: Hamill/Hammill in Pittsburgh area

2005-05-01 16:08:03Z

I am looking for a Jerry Greffenstett that was in the army at the time of the korean war?

Hammill family from Ireland to Philadelphia

jfhcoop1 — 2005-01-02 03:16:52Z

I am currently researching the Hammill family that immigrated to Philadelphia between 1874 and 1900.

Other family names include: Long, Hunter, Sharkey, Quigley, Kincaid, Conn

Please visit the attached linj for more detail:

http://ourworld.cs.com/JFHcoop1/index.html

Re: Hamill/Hammill "Images...Carnegie...

sihrman — 2007-06-09 21:41:20Z

"Images of America, Carnegie
(by) Sandy Henry for the Historical Society of Carnegie
Arcadia Publishing, c2006
pg. 19 photo "Catherine & Patrick Hammill stand in front of their residence & grocer at Third street in pre-Carnegie Mansfield borough, around 1890. Patrick was a devoted Catholic & was instrumental in the early organization of St. Luke's parish. The Hammill store was located across the street from St. Luke & thrived for many decades.
pg. 20 photo "Patrick Hammill served on the First Church Committee of St, Luke parish. Here the patriarch poses woth wife Catherine & their children Joseph, Patrick, Harry, Bert, Jane, Anne, Catherine, Chloe, & Bridget, around 1895."
pg. 53 photo "The first graduating class of St. Luke grade school celebrated in 1905....Mary Hammill..."

Re: Hammills in Franklin & St. Lawrence Counties in NY

loriannlocke — 2007-05-02 17:54:49Z

Hi Joe, One thing that really confuses me is, with John Hammill, I see some folks list identicle info in their family trees but connect him to the surname ENLOW.

I have a list of seven children for John Hammill and Sara McCauley and will post names and dates if yoiu don't have them.

I am curious about the connection to a church as there are a few priests and nuns in the family and I wonder about a connection.

Lori-Ann

Re: Hammills in Franklin & St. Lawrence Counties in NY

loriannlocke — 2007-05-02 16:12:20Z

Hi, I am researching this line as a favor to someone whom I am related to by marriage. The person for whom I am doing research is the great grand son of John Hammill and Sara McCauley. Contact me if you would like to compare notes,
Thanks Lori-Ann

Re: Hammills in Franklin & St. Lawrence Counties in NY

loriannlocke — 2007-09-29 03:46:46Z

The Jennie o"neal that you spoke of was of the lantry family. Do you have that info? I have some that I can share going back a few generations

Hammill and Enroe

loriannlocke — 2007-07-06 22:37:56Z

In researching the HAMMILL line, I have come across several genealogies published that indicate that someone named John Enrow changed his name to Hammill when he moved to Brasher Falls NY.

Does anyonew know anything about this?

Re: Hammills in Franklin & St. Lawrence Counties in NY

joehammill — 2007-05-02 17:37:59Z

Lori,
I am related to the same folks your husband, husband's family is related to. Will be glad to let you know what I know about the Hammills of St. Lawrence and Franklin Counties.

Joe Hammill

Re: Hammills in Franklin & St. Lawrence Counties in NY

joehammill — 2007-09-29 14:34:56Z

I'm at the office at the moment, not sure what Jennie (Jane) O'Neill's mother maiden name was, we are related to Lantrys so it could be. I'll look and let you know that. These folks spelled their name, O'Neill, I've also seen it with one "L". On their tombstone in Massenam, the Catholic cemetery, it's spelled with two "L"s. Their are several in that plot, including two Hammills, brothers of my father.

She died in 1916 from "consumption", which we know as TB. I bleieve she was not yet 40, 36 seems to come to mind. My father was about 8 yrs of age when she died.

Would be happy to share what I have on my Hammill's and of course am very interesed in learning your information.

Joe Hammill

Re: Hammills in Franklin & St. Lawrence Counties in NY

joehammill — 2007-05-03 19:21:44Z

I would be interested in seeing your list and comparing notes.
I grew up in that part of NY state. The first Catholic church was the Indian church, St. Regis. As the Irish and French came across from Canada into that part of NY, they attended mass at St. Regis. The church was staffed by French Jesuits and probably was part of the Catholic Diocese of Montreal or Quebec.

By 1835, John Hammill, Keenan and others worked to build a new church, St. Patricks. John Hammill, I think Keenan's name might have been John too, married a Hammill girl, sister of John Hammill's. There were about 5 of them that served as original trustees. I have some pixs of the current church and also the tombstones of John & Sarah. They're buried behind the rectory next to the church.

I'm not sure about priests and nuns (vocations) in the first generation or so. My father, James' (his grandfather was also James) father was Arthur, who Married a Jane (Jennie) O'Neill. She had a brother who was a priest and was pastor of St. Mary's church in Canton, NY. One of my father's brothers, John became a priest, ordained in 1939. They also had a nun on their father's side who lived most of her life down around Albany, NY. She was a sister to Art Hammill, my grandfather. The Fr. John O'Neill was a great uncle.

Joe Hammill

Hammill in Ontario

canadiankat — 2007-01-14 17:41:21Z

I am wondering if anyone has any info on the Hammill/Hammell line with William Hammell (b 1808- d 1888). He married Ellen Gosneld Robertson and had 10 children, William Roy, Hugh Ethelbert (my gg grandfather), John Howard, Mary Ellen, George Lawrence, Jean Leuellen, Eva Ellen, Joseph Franklin, Elma Elizabeth.
Thanks

Re: Finding Hammill's related to my family

lilymil08 — 2008-03-16 19:18:33Z

I just started researching my Hammill family tree but my grandfather Thomas Patrick Hammill was born in Blairsville PA. He had a large family, 6 bro and 3 sisters. I have a picture of them, I think it is visable on my tree under Hebden family tree. All born from 1878 through 1897 or so. Parents are Frank and Margaret Hammill. Kids: Belle, frank Francis, Thomas P, Nellie, Maggie, John, Harry, Charles, Edward, Paul. I believe Frank Francis had kids: John, Francis, Maray, Elija, James.

Walter Wesley Hammill from Pittsburg

aabamr — 2005-01-15 04:18:26Z

Looking for information about Walter Wesley Hammill from Pittsburg area. Married to Olga Koerth. Had a son named James David Hammill. James is my Grandfather. He was born August 4, 1912. Would appreciate any information. Just starting my family tree. Thank You

Genevieve Hammill

dfhamill1 — 2006-06-12 14:07:36Z

Looking for any descendents of Genevieve (nee Waterman)Hammill who was born in New York City in 1906 and died in Los Angeles in 1992.She was my father's first cousin on the Waterman/Wasserman side.I would love to share any information on our shared ancestry.Thank you.

Lieutenant HAMMIL - KC police - Kansas City, MO - November 1907

JohnWOBrien — 2005-08-16 00:15:10Z

"The Kansas City Journal" (Missouri) Friday, November 22, 1907

CAN'T DESCRIBE HIS WIFE.

"I have always maintained that a man can not give an accurate
description of his wife," said Lieutenant HAMMIL of the Walnut
police station yesterday afternoon. "Now here's where I get a
chance to say 'I told you so.' Listen to this letter I got this morning
from a man whose wife has left him:

"Chief of police," the letter ran. "My wife left home Saturday night.
She works down at Jones's warehouse and had just got her week's
pay in the afternoon. I am led to believe that she is still in the city
and would like for you policemen to keep a lookout for her.

"She is about 18 or 19 years old, I don't know which. She is 5 feet
3 inches tall and weighs 135 pounds. By this you see she is
somewhat chunky. She has either blue or gray eyes, and her hair
is either auburn or red. I don't know which. One thing I do know,
and that is that she has a dimple in her chin which grows bigger
when she laughs. This is all I know about her and I hope that you
will be able to find her and send her back to me. I have been a
good husband to her for some time and cannot see why she has
left me. She is not at her mother's."

The man who wrote the letter gave his address as 1224 Locust street.

"Perhaps we can find her, but perhaps we can not," continued the
lieutenant. "Now you may think that this is only one case out of many
where a husband could not describe his wife, but I tell you that in
ninety-nine cases out of a hundred, a man can not tell you the color of
his affinity's eyes or hair."

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(I have no connection with this family but I'd appreciate
knowing if you found this posting helpful.)
johnobrien@kc.rr.com
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neirbo5

james hammill

joanl4 — 2007-05-26 19:41:00Z

James and Ann[Anna] had Elizabeth,James, Annie and Rose that I know of They lived in Hopewell,Mercer Co.NJ in 1880Annie is my Grandmother,Married James Maher in 1903.

Re: Hammill in Ontario

wheelsdwh — 2008-01-11 19:43:16Z

this is in reply to your request for information about Mervin Hammill. I do have some information about his death and funeral if you are interested.

Cheers

Re: Hammill in Ontario

wheelsdwh — 2007-12-19 22:22:43Z

Hi canadiankat,
That just happens to be my side of the family. lol I am sure I must know you.
Cheers

Re: Finding Hammill's related to my family

paricewilson — 2007-10-20 00:26:50Z

my paternal Grandmother was a Hammill. Her family was from Blairsville (Indiana Co) Pa. The earliest info I have is 1860. The parents were Patrick and Ellen Hammill, children: John, Frank, Mary Jane, ElizaJane and James. I only have info for Frank's line. You may be a descendant of the others. I will let you know if I find anything. You can email me direct at parice_wilson@hotmail.com.

PHOTOS: Laura HAMMILL and Sam HAMMILL, taken by Bloomingdale Bros., 59th & 3rd Avenue, New York

kathy3643 — 2006-09-25 19:33:49Z

I bought two photos which may be of husband and wife. They are identified as Sam HAMMILL and Laura HAMMILL. The photos were taken at the Bloomingdale Photo Studio located at 59th and 3rd Avenue in New York, NY. These photos are in perfect condition.

Laura HAMMILL is wearing her hair swept up on the top of her hair. She is wearing a black lace dress with a high neck and small gold earrings. She has large, luminous brown eyes and flawless skin.

Sam HAMMILL is wearing a high collared white shirt with a dark knotted tie and dark suit coat. His hair appears to be very thich with a straight hairline. It is brushed straight back. He has a dark brown mustache and rimless eyeglasses that clip on his nose.

I am not related, but I would like to connect these photos to family members or family researchers.
Please contact me directly if you have an interest in these photos.

Kathy Wieland in St. Louis, MO
Kathy@craftsbykathy.com

Re: ancestoral history

finnmacool — 2004-12-10 19:35:07Z

it's a long time since you posted your message but I have only recently discovered my Scottish ancestral connections. Anyway: John Cassidy married Margaret Hammill December 31st 1898 at Johnstone - about 18-miles from Irving, They produced one son that I am aware of, John wjo was born at 1am on July 7th 1902 at 54 Canal Street, Paisley.

I know nothing of Margaret's ancestors but John was one of 11-14 children born to Andrew Cassidy and Ann Blue of County Antrim, Ireland

Hammill from Monroeville, PA

bevrossman — 2007-04-13 04:20:52Z

I am searching for Hammills from the Monroeville area, near Pittsburgh, PA. I am a desendant of Walter Wesley Hammill. Would like to correspond. I have pictures of Walter and his wife Olga. Please respond here or to aabamr@localnet.com.
Thank You
Bev

Margaret Kiernan Hammill, b 1 June 1835, Ireland

MarilynHamill — 2007-11-29 03:44:40Z

I have a photocopy of the death certificate of the above, died in NY, NY, NY, 23 Feb 1891 a widow. I got this by mistake and it can be yours for $1 plus a SASE.

Hammells in Sussex County, New Jersey

ladyroulette — 2007-10-15 00:27:15Z

I am looking for William Hammell's parents. William Hammell was born on September 5, 1878 in Sparta, New Jersey and he died on April 5, 1925 in Sparta, New Jersey. He is buried at Sparta Presbyterian Church Cemetery along with his wife Julia Norman Hammell-Perrigo. He married Julia Etta Norman on May 5, 1907. Julia married Ira m Perrigo in June 1928 in Ogdensburg, New Jersey. William and Julie had a child named Russell D. Hammell that was born on June 2, 1907.

I know that there are a lot of William Hammells born around 1878. I do not know what his middle inital was, hence me having problems finding him :). Any help or input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Re: Henry Hammill

wagalat — 2005-04-26 03:29:39Z

Sorry, I do not have any information on the Hammills. I have a Kirkbride website. I am very interested in your Kirkbride side. Please see the website (www.relia.net/~mhadley).

Please contact me after you find your Kirkbride line, as I need help filling in and correcting infromation.