You mention a John Hayes and NY.
I have a John B. Hayes born July 13 1792 in Ostego Co, NY. He died Dec 3, 1859 in Truxton, Cortland, NY. His wife is Samantha Lewis b. March 14 1797 in MA and died Nov 25, 1880 in Truxton. I am trying to find John and Samantha's parents but have had no luck.
You mentioned that John who had a son John in NY. Now it's my turn to grasp at straws.