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Jennie Mabel Hearst

Riflebill — 2008-11-12 13:47:41Z

I have been trying to locate Jennie Mabel Hearst's parents in England. Jennie was born Sep 1868 (maybe 1870) we believe in Somerset England. Supposedly her father was a vetinarian (farrier?) - according to tradtion he was the first one to recommend setting a horses leg instead of shooting the horse. We think she came to USA about 1880 and then married William Eldred in Leavenworth KS. While I have information of her after her marriage to William, I find no information before that. Oral information is that her father was named John and that she came over with two brothers, but again, any information will help!

Re: Jennie Mabel Hearst

Riflebill — 2008-11-12 01:03:51Z

I have a new email address - so if you have any information on Jennie Mabel Hearst Eldred please email me at janfoss@mac.com - thanks!

2008 Welcome to the Hearst Message Board, without much interest for some time, but with an interested administrator

KinMapper — 2008-01-10 05:00:08Z

2008, nearly a year later from this message:
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Welcome to the Hearst Message Board, without any administration for some time, but now with an interested board administrator
KinMapper Posted: 17 Jan 2007 3:32AM GMT

Classification: Query
Surnames: Hearst
Welcome, I will help direct this Message Board should any one venture in.

I have responded to old messages posted within the last few years and hopefully will see people begin to know this list has merit and direction.

The people who visit will determine that direction.

KinMapper
Hearst Message Board Administrator
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I respond to all posts that I know the least bit about and allow the others to sit and to find some expert to respond if the poster is lucky.

This site will be needed when a new Hearst descendant or spouse happens upon it as their first choice of learning how to research.

All levels of questions are solicited for there is no cost to post and only time pays for the free answers which is gladly given to a neophyte or an expert researching Hearst descendant or spouse.

Death of Johnnie Hearst Deighton, Oklahoma

maryachtrh — 2007-11-27 20:02:12Z

Appears in "The Wapanucka Press" 14 August 1902 Wapanucka, Johnston County, Indian Territory, now Oklahoma

Johnnie Hearst, aged 15, of Deighton, Dewey County, rescued two smaller companions from drowning last week, but after getting them out sank and was drowned himself.

Re: William Randolph Hearst and the certain Hearst origin into South Carolina

KinMapper — 2007-10-01 15:23:57Z

I now see I misidentified the scan in question. It is that plat for the son of 100 acres but will suffice as the start towards a historical disproof of any Virginia origins.

William Randolph Hearst and the certain Hearst origin into South Carolina

KinMapper — 2007-10-01 15:19:35Z

William Randolph Hearst was my grandmother's third cousin, but this connection did not lend itself to any need to post anything as to the most notable man. It is now three and one-half months later and no one has provided you with any response so I will attempt the best I can offer and accomplish two tasks in one missive. First I imagine the lineage should be posted somewhere and involves a post-Revolutionary maternal line of William Randolph Hearst, unconnected to the full American Hearst family of his and their common ancestor. I have never Google for it nor checked Rootsweb either and it is there that it might be.

Those descended from the prestigious Hearst family of the communication empire have no need to post queries for perhaps they have all their known information in a privately circulated printed pamphlet. As a WRH third cousin's grandchild, I do not have any greater interest in this man than in the many others for whom multiple biographies have not been written. At least one of these is usually readily available at the local public library, for towns throughout America. I did once attempt to correspond with the family but failed abysmally for I am sure they do not condescend to respond to strange and distant alleged relatives. At this point the power of their corporate pen could be of the greatest service to this 'umble fifth cousin, Google me to see why, but there is no cause to ask again nor to expect any desire for contact. My grandmother though was certain and therefore and therefrom followed the career of William Randolph Hearst until their respective deaths in 1951 and nine years thereafter. Documentation proves, our common descent from the immigrant John Hearst of Abbeville District, South Carolina [of the land grant, under "Hearse", a patent misspelling, for 400 acres (showing 100 acres for an adult male and 50 acres each for wife and living children under the age of 16) and given with one for John Jr., under "Hearse" as well, for 100 acres (showing only that young John was unmarried and 16 years or older I believe)].

I attach a copy of the proof of the former land grant, the plat for 400 acres, which starts a historical disproof of one or more of the Hearst biographers' claims, as well as ones published on the Internet existing now still perhaps and previously, that William Randolph's line through George E. to William George to George to this John somehow were not Protestant immigrants from the Old World, but were from the Isle of Wight County of Virginia, a claim which by whomever will never stand up to the scrutiny of a professional genealogist.

So at least now you have a unique posting on the William Randolph Hearst ancestry which you can compare first to the many biographies and their limited or sufficient complete version of the Hearst known ancestry to see the difference does exist. After that you will need to have already accumulated or to gather knowledge on the immigration into South Carolina and the likelihood of an interloper claiming immigration from other than whence the immigrant actually came and falsely applying under the act to encourage Protestant immigration, which I believe was meant for those not living in the American colonies (there were political considerations causing this).

Any response pertinent to the above is welcome, but there are not that many Hearst of the southern source and only about the same number of any American source.

William Randolph Hearst

MaryMcGarr — 2007-06-11 02:21:46Z

Anyone have William Randolph Hearst's line back to his 6th great grandmother, Mary Joseph Croshaw (1632-1687)?

Anyone know why there's not more information on this message board about William Randolph Hearst?

Thanks,
Mary McGarr

Re: Hearst in North America, from and to where did they originally emigrate?

KinMapper — 2007-06-02 17:32:07Z

Spelling was not a fixed certainty in the 1500's, 1600's and even 1700's. Additionally as even today on occasion, an enumerator/scrivener can misspell a surname due to lack of care and only with computers is it readily corrected. [Also there are few who spell their surname Hearse, by choice and with duration, but none in South Carolina so there is no doubt that the John Hearses Sr. and Jr. who were granted land bounty were those who propagated the name and the Hearst family descendants in South Carolina, Missouri, Georgia, Alabama and beyond.]

Thus Hearse in these documents may well be originally on the ship's manifest or on the council records or how the family actually wanted it spelled. The last seems least likely for the family quickly used Hearst and stuck with it better than most families were able to do so as to surnames readily misspelled.

Curt Rowe, a John Hearst researcher of the first rank and a descendant as well, has a site including many of the Hearst descendants and much documentation. This link,
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan/Hearst/hearst.html
may work here, or when lifted and pasted into your address window, and if not it at least alerts you to the best place on the internet to get valid Hearst genealogy, including a discussion of other theories. Depending on how you search on Google this may not be readily reachable.

Also here is a link to the council minutes and related matters as kindly provided by Curt Rowe:

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan/Hearst/hearst_documen...

If anyone disagrees with Curt Rowe's conclusions there, here would be a good place to discuss contrary evidence. I have none.

Re: Hearst in North America, from and to where did they originally emigrate?

kaiser194 — 2007-06-02 05:52:30Z

My research has John Hearst coming to America on the Bounty Act in 1766 from Northern Ireland. The South Carolina Treasurer Records 1766-1767 p.483 shows a record of John Hearst being repaid for his family's ship passage. Council records show that John Hearst and son presented their petitions for Warrants of Survey at the meeting of 26 Oct. 1766. The South Carolina archives also have the Royal Land Grants for John and his son. Oddly, the last name is spelled Hearse on these documents, but my understanding is that the land grant corresponds to the area that the Hearst were known to live on in the Long Canes settlement. Perhaps, another researcher could shed more light on this. John Hearst and all of his children or in the case of his daughters, their spouses, appeared on the Long Canes Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church roll call. John Hearst was definitely living in S.Carolina's Abbeville district when his will was probated in 1782. My ancestor Thomas Hearst, son of John Hearst was definitely living in the Abbeville district of S.Carolina in the 1790 census and was married there as well. He later immigrated to Missouri. We also know that two of John's sons served in the Revolutionary war in South Carolina. I have never seen any documentation placing them in Virginia or North Carolina. My family oral tradition, although it is not worth much as far as proof, is that the Hearsts were Scotch Irish and they came to Missouri from S. Carolina.

Re: Obit - Byirl J. Hearst - Colorado

nelleoj2 — 2007-01-28 18:58:45Z

I am not connected to the family, just posted the obit. I did a search in the Pueblo Chieftain paper and also see another story about their 50th wedding anniversary in 2003.

http://www.chieftain.com/search/index.php?search_query=Byirl...

Jo

Summary of copyright articles absent complying with their terms for republication

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 18:02:05Z

Your initial post seems fine and appears to be a summary of facts and not anything improper except the part that you noted that an explicit link, rather than a sufficient delineation of the site that any body could find the link such as you gave, is the best but either is satisfactory.

Re: William Randolph Hearst, 1863-1951

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 17:59:58Z

No I was not talking about you for there is nothing here that seems to be other than fair use. But taking a full paragraph of the wiki article requires compliance with their rules should anyone elect to do so.

Or should anyone post.

I am trying to get that as part of board information but it is not saving it. I will try to get it posted this evening to alert all to the fact that I have a general understanding of the fair use safe harbor.

Re: William Randolph Hearst, 1863-1951

redthunder64 — 2007-01-17 17:54:14Z

I am aware, information from wikipedia is not verified, as it is written by unknown authors. But in this case, it does present the debate very accurately.

Since I have nothing to gain from this but knowledge, I am well within my rights under the "fair use" act for the wikipedia information.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

However, I do agree, I should have included the link for the other page.

http://www.snopes2.com/movies/other/ince.htm

Re: William Randolph Hearst, 1863-1951

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 16:48:46Z

Oh yeah and when and if you do report in make sure to respect copyrights for most web pages only allow a link into the page but are firm on their copyright rights.

Some exceptions exist out there for philosophical reasons but even they have guidelines that must be respected and complied with, one being Wikipedia which is replete with gossip and accurate stories and is an incredible resource anyway.

When using Wikipedia, try to do your best to comply with their rules as to lift and pasting. As their rules may change, I will not quote any here and I have not looked since I wrote or rather re-wrote a Wikipedia article increasing it somewhat greatly in size a few years back. [I have written nothing on Hearst for public view.]

I would write but you have no easy mail box address to type so this will be here if and when you return hoping you will add to our knowledge as best you can respecting that only a fair use of a given work can be pasted here unless you comply with the requirement of written permission or such rules, minimal though they be, as such as wikipedia.org promulgates.

Curt Rowe's Home page of his large web site including many great Hearst pages

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 05:31:31Z

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan/index.html

This page provides a new address to me for the site and possibly for Curt Rowe.

Curt Rowe's Hearst pages at his large web site

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 05:27:20Z

This is the link (they have it wrong at one place here) to Curt Rowe's excellent Hearst pages:

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~amcolan/Hearst/hearst.html

Re: Hearst list

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 04:16:37Z

Glad you are still receiving messages. I hope more will be posted than when few responded to those asking for answers.

That was not even at issue. What was at issue was if you were still at the mailbox address.

I failed to ask, did you find the answer to your question or shall I attempt to assist in rooting out some form of my best answer?

Re: Hearst list

prmusgrove — 2007-01-17 03:49:40Z

I would like to stay on the list.

Hearst list

2006-04-29 00:05:41Z

I had trouble emailing Curt Rowe to join his Hearst list. My direst ancestor is Elizabeth Hearst who married William Pressly. CAn anyone help?
Penelope
penmusgrove@yahoo.com

George and Melissa Lifford Hearst, Virginia to Greenwood, SC

2003-08-31 21:46:10Z

Searching for information about my Great Great Grandpop George Hearst (b. 1860 d. 1928) and his wife Melissa Lifford Hearst who bore nine children. Would like information about Grandpop's parents and siblings. Visit the Hearst Family Website at http://home.earthlink.net/~chearstcurry. Any information, photos, etc. that you may have will be welcome.

Re: Austine Hearst (nee Chilton) - Mrs. WRH II

2003-04-17 23:09:07Z

samantha, my father is frank chilton and so is my grandfather. we are related to the hearsts (although distantly). where did your frank chilton live??

Calarado Hearst from Arkedela, Arkansas

2002-12-28 00:44:00Z

Looking for info on Calarado b about 1865 and moved to Mo.

Austine Hearst (nee Chilton) - Mrs. WRH II

2002-10-04 15:10:13Z

Looking for information on Austine Hearst (nee Chilton). This was the third marriage for both WRH II and her but the only one that produced children for either: William Randolph Hearst III and John Augustine Chilton Hearst. I recall a close connection to my grandfather Frank Chilton. She was born about 1918 and Frank 1910

John Hearst, Sr. from Ireland to SC

2002-09-26 16:20:03Z

John Hearst, Sr. and members of Frazier and Gibson families immigrated to the US from Ireland in 1766. The 3 families settled in the Long Canes District of SC then moved around 1812 to East St. Louis (Cahokia), IL then to Franklin Co, MO after 1818.

Can anyone tell me where in Ireland they were originally from? I am researching the Fraziers.

Thanks!

Deanna

Re: George Hurst Hearst

2002-07-26 19:26:33Z

My ancestors immigrated/migrated with the Hearsts - yours is the first reference I've seen to the ship's name. Thanks! Can you please tell me where you found this info?

My 4G-Grandfather was Alexander Frazer (multiple spellings) and his father was probably James Frazer.

The Gibsons were the 3rd family in the group. The 3 families intermarried and moved from SC to IL to Franklin Co., MO together. Alexander's daughter, Hester, was the 2nd wife of George Hearst (at 14!) and with him, had a daughter Eveline. She was widowed at 21 or 22 and then married a Gibson.

Do you have any information on the Frazers or Gibsons? Alexander is my dead end.

Thanks!

Deanna

Re: George Hurst Hearst

2002-07-18 01:20:45Z

the original john hearst came to us. 1766 on ship earl of hillsborough from ireland. will probated 1782 in south carolina. his first wife was elizabeth knox and number two was mary obrien widow of james, kids, robert, mary, john, (major)who married martha carson and phoebe stark. next, joseph, thomas, george, william, christian, a female, elizabeth, margaret and nancy or ann. all in records of south carolina., his son john, (major) married to martha carson, whose father was william and mother margaret mills, had kids, margaret hearst, robert hearst, william hearst, mary hearst married to jacob clark, jr. hane hearst married to john mcmillian, john, whitehall, hearst married to margaret hearst, george hearst, martha hearst, lewis hearst married to mary hearst, his cousin, sarah hearst married to p.c. mcowen.

George Hearst Inquiry

natolis — 2002-01-31 05:58:36Z

I don't know if I am sending you in the right direction or not.
Try the William Randolph Hearst Family ( of the SF Chronicle, San Simeon Fame )
His family from Franklin, Mo. - William's father's name was George F. Hearst. Williams' mother's name was Pheobe Apperson. Pheobe was born in Whitmire Settlement, Franklin Missouri

Amelia Hearst born in Ohio

EBerger0084 — 2003-01-03 22:46:32Z

Amelia was born March 12, 1834, in Ohio. She married Morris W. Starling. They lived in California and Nevada. They had children: Albert M.; Anna M.; Eleanor D.; and Lucy N.Starling. Amelia's father's name could have been W. Hearst and he and his wife came from Baden. Any information?

Michael J. Hearst, New York to California

KGoldfam — 2003-07-09 02:40:54Z

I am looking for information on Michael J. Hearst (N.Y abt. 1857) and his wife Catherine Fitch, they married possibly in N.Y., had seven children, most born in California. Arthur James, William Thomas, John Peter, George Matthew, Harry A., Richard A., and Mary Margaret knwon as Mae. They all lived and died in the San Francisco area.

Wyatt Hearst

jasongrantj — 2005-04-04 06:25:45Z

We have just recetly discovered a connection to the Hearst family in Liverpool area in the late 1800's. My husbands great grandmother was the daughter of a one Wyatt Hearst and Jane Elizabeth Holland. These two were married in 1881 after the census and had Annie Hearst in 1882. Wyatt hearst was supposedly born in Ireland. If anyone has any information please contact me.
Thanks Annette Jervis

Jane Hearst born in North Carolina

cardinal333 — 2002-03-24 03:14:51Z

Looking for information on Jane Hearst born in North Carolina in 1802 and married Juluis Higgins born 1795 in New York. They had four daughters: Margaret, Sarah, Mary, and Phebe Ann. and two sons William, and Juluis. If you have any information on this family please e-mail me at keijen@hotmail.com

Thank you,
Jennifer

Arabelle (Isabella) Hearst

Hearst_Kaiser — 2002-07-17 19:18:56Z

I am a descendant of William Hearst 1828 and his third wife Sophia Charlotte McCulloch. I have a child listed as Isabel b. 1857 in the census. William Hearst's first wife was Cecilia Ann Baker, the second Mary Herrington. I have a lot of info about him. Please contact me thru my e-mail if you would like to know more.
Deborah

e-mail address

Hearst_Kaiser — 2002-07-17 19:18:56Z

Oops,I thought you could get my e-mail address by clicking on my name. Here it is joedeb@cheersfromengland.freeserve.co.uk

Jacob Hearst m Harriet W Levering

MarthaAHallowell — 2006-09-28 21:50:23Z

Seeking descendants of Jacob Hearst and Harriet W Levering (b 1827), daughter of Elizabeth White (1795 - 1870) and Matthias Levering (b 1798)?

Welcome to the Hearst Message Board, without any administration for some time, but now with an interested board administrator

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 03:40:37Z

Welcome, I will help direct this Message Board should any one venture in.

I have responded to old messages posted within the last few years and hopefully will see people begin to know this list has merit and direction.

The people who visit will determine that direction.

KinMapper
Hearst Message Board Administrator

Re: John Hearst, Sr. from Ireland to SC

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 03:29:48Z

Thank you for your post of way back. Anyone with any relevant information as to this post, particularly the poster is solicited to add more or just to check in.

Re: George Hurst Hearst

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 03:23:44Z

If any of the responders or the poster are still following this list, now is a good time for a check-in and an update of what you have learned in the past many months on the issues discussed in this thread.

KinMapper
Hearst Message Board Administrator

Re: SEEKING Jack Hearst or Hurst,/Owned a grocery store in Bossier City or Shreveport, La. in the 1950's

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 03:17:42Z

You must seek out the correct spelling whenever dealing with the Hearst families and the Pressly families, as each spelling is the less common one for Hurst and Pressley/Presley/Preslar spellings for the much larger proportion of those with similarly sounding names.

Thus here it is crucial to be able to say which spelling was the true family spelling.

Re: George and Melissa Lifford Hearst, Virginia to Greenwood, SC

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 03:14:47Z

Have you had any responses on this from other sites that you would like to update our Message Board with (if you are still researching with an active subscription?

Re: Obit - Byirl J. Hearst - Colorado

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 03:13:13Z

This was an interesting post, now made in the past, if the poster is still out there do you have any additional knowledge of the meaning of the relationship betwee WRH and BJH as described. Eventually if I do not hear from you I will attempt to track it down, but I would prefer to see if you or someone else knows it readily.

William Randolph Hearst had no well-known sibling of record so this man would not be a nephew. His position on the Hearst family tree is uncertain from the article.

So to anyone, please consider enlightening us further.

Re: William Randolph Hearst, 1863-1951

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 03:09:29Z

I never heard of this incident, but if you will update what you know now, I will attempt to extend it further. As I just became administrator recently I am trying to review long ago posted messages and update them and respond to those that can be updated.

Re: Hearst list

KinMapper — 2007-01-17 03:07:53Z

This list is now being administered again. If you are still active at that Yahoo box this should reach you if you checked the right box. If not the question will remain moot until you return to this site.

Please post acknowledgement and we will work to get you an answer at that point.

Hearst in North America, from and to where did they originally emigrate?

KinMapper — 2007-01-16 18:00:41Z

There are few messages here and much information out there that has not been posted as to Hearst surname.

Is there a Hearst researcher who cares to pontificate or even merely speculatet on where and in what preponderance the Hearst appear here in North America?

I am aware that there is contradictory positions taken on the American Hearsts originating in South Carolina as some see it but originating in Virginia and then migrating to North Carolina as other see it.

As a KinMapper I care not a whit which turns out to be true only that the documentation of each be available for each to judge which is more likely. There are seldom any absolute answers even as to we, the living.

Anyone with sufficient knowledge to want to share it on the Hearst families of North America please post.

SEEKING Jack Hearst or Hurst,/Owned a grocery store in Bossier City or Shreveport, La. in the 1950's

seaflora_1 — 2003-01-04 06:28:18Z

I am looking for any information on a Jack Hurst/Hearst. He owned a grocery store in Bossier City or Shreveport, Louisiana in the 1950's. Business may have been called Hurst's(or Hearst's)Grocery Outlet.
He had a wife named Maxine who may have at one time worked at a night club or bar in Shreveport.
Jack Hurst/Hearst is believed to have been born in Texas. He may have died in Texas, but not sure.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

Re: Maria Jane Hearst

danielleesmith1 — 2004-02-22 23:00:45Z

Was one of the daughters born in England named Clara Jane Farnsworth? If so, we have some information to exchange! Thanks.

Obit - Byirl J. Hearst - Colorado

JoellenBrown27 — 2006-02-08 17:29:48Z

Byirl J. Hearst, died Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2004, in Pueblo, CO. He was born in Butte, Mont. on Aug. 1, 1929, to Byirl and Frances (Pierce) Hearst, a descendant of the William Randolph Hearst bloodline.

He had lived in this area since the early 1940s. He was employed for a short time by the Forest Service, he also did mining in the area and enjoyed a 41-year career at the C.F. & I. Steel Mill where he was credited with two engineering designs that assisted in production.

He was a veteran of the Army, having served as a tank commander during the Korean War.

Mr. Hearst is survived by his wife of 50 years, Winona; children, Kipp Hearst, Kent Hearst, Jill Suazo; 6 grandchildren; a sister, Sue Wager; a sister-in-law, Patsy York; brother-in-laws, Clifford Gulliford and Conrad Gulliford; two aunts, Jenna Burkey and Alice Hearst, as well as numerous nieces; nephews and other relatives.

Mr. Hearst is preceded in death by his parents.

Burial in the Roselawn Cemetery.

Mary Hearst,b.about 1827 in MO

T_deCrooy — 2002-11-20 06:45:02Z

Just found out g-g-grandmother's maiden name: Mary Hearst who married Daniel Decker, both born in MO around 1826 or 1827. They moved to ARK. had children: Martha A., William John, James Marion, Emily C., Rhody J., and Mary Decker. All born between 1849-1862. Most moved onto LeFlore and Haskell counties in Oklahoma. If you know anything about her or her family, please write me. Thanks, Teri

George Hurst Hearst

dlmcdonald1 — 2002-11-12 01:58:18Z

I list a George F Hearst from Frankin County, Missouri with his parents being William G. Hurst and Elizabeth Collins Hurst. Do you have any information on William G. Hurst father of George F. Hurst?

Hearst family in California??

dogcrazy77 — 2002-12-14 01:11:36Z

Looking for relatives related to Frances Hearst who had five or six children. My father was born in 1944 in Ventura Calif. His birth name was Jimmy Hearst but later changed to Cooper Johnson.

William Randolph Hearst, 1863-1951

redthunder64 — 2006-12-21 22:14:05Z

Wow, this bio was fascinating!! Thank you very much for posting it. I am interested in finding out about an incident in 1924, involving William Randolph Hearst and Thomas Ince, aboard William's boat. Have you any information on that, aside from what is posted on the web? I am researching Thomas Ince, since Ince's name came up during the William Desmond Taylor murder investigation in 1922.

I know there are conflicting stories about what happened aboard that boat in 1924, resulting in Ince's death. I've read about three possible stories.

A) He died from a heart attack, brought on by indigestion
B) He died when his appendix burst
C) He was shot by William Randolph Hearst, who was actually aiming for Charlie Chaplin

Would you be able to shed any light on this incident? I would greatly appreciate any assistance you can offer.

Shawnee