My best friend is Clifford douglas Isch Jr. He lives in mansfield, ohio. b. 1965. his father, clifford sr. passed away about 2000. His father Doug, passed away in 2002. Doug (he goes by his middle name) is not computer literate so if you would like to contact him, email me and I can put you in touch with him one way or another. Thanks Jethronew38@yahoo.com