Jahn - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Johann Georg Jahn

adamheinrich7878 — 2013-05-13 03:17:09Z

Hi,
A Rosalie Obstfelder is my great-great grandmother on my father's line. This information is the best I know from family memory and documents. I have not been able to travel to Thuringen to learn more or to double check.

Rosalie Obstfelder was born in Allersdorf on 5, May, 1857. She married Robert Jahn of Cursdorf (21, September, 1857-5, February, 1937) on 31, August, 1879. They lived in Cursdorf. Rosalie died in September 1943, Cursdorf.

Rosalie had a sister Wilhelmine (unknown dates).

Rosalie and Robert had many children:
Maria Jahn my great grandmother (22, November 1888- 1937, immigrated to the USA in 1906)
Olga Jahn (b 15, January, 1891)
Paul Jahn (b 14, October, 1886)
Elsa Jahn (25, October 1884)
Emmy Jahn (b 13, September, 1882)
Angnes Jahn (b 22, December, 1877)
Minna Jahn (8, October 1880- 15, February, 1968 in USA)
Erna Jahn (b 10, February 1895)
Melanny Jahn (b 5 November 1896)

best,
Adam Heinrich

Re: Johann Georg Jahn

RWJahn — 2013-05-12 23:52:26Z

Suzi,

I am sorry, I have no info on Rosalie. I only came upon info re. her from another tree. It may be that she does not belong on my tree at all. I have been able to get some good info from Evangelical pastors in the towns where an ancestor lived. They usually want about 40 Euros an hour for their efforts. They are usually not difficult to find with an internet search for Evangelische Kirche in (name of town). If you do not know German then just try it in English as they may know English. Paypal will send 100 euros for about $135 which includes a fee of about $5.
Good Luck!
Ron

Re: Johann Georg Jahn

JeffandSuzi — 2013-05-12 21:59:11Z

Would you have any other information about Rosalie Obstfelder? My great grandfather, Karl Friedrich Robert Obstfelder was born near Unterweissbach, Germany which is near Allersdorf. I know that they lived in Obstfeldersmiede and that his father was the blacksmith in the town. He came here in 1866. I am wondering if your Rosalie, and my Great grandfather could have been relatives. This is all the information I have and I really don't know where else to look.

Thanks for any help.

Suzi

Jahn from Giesel (Hessen)

WGFGER — 2013-03-10 16:57:26Z

Johannes Thaddaeus Jahn, born Giesel 28 Oct 1810, son of Johannes Jahn and Anna Maria Firle, emigrated 1837 to Amerika.

Source:

http://forum.ahnenforschung.net/showthread.php?t=83738

Regards, Wolfgang G. Fischer

Re: Martha A (Jahn) Hoffman

shensler — 2013-02-01 22:30:38Z

I have a Martha Yahn, born to August Yahn and Alvina Dirla and who lived in Frankenlust, MI, outside of Bay City. I have a Katherine Hoffman who lived In Frankenmuth Mi. born in 1862, parents George Hoffman and Eva Rummel Hoffman. Any relation?

Re: Martha A (Jahn) Hoffman

udontfixstuff — 2013-01-25 16:48:11Z

I will help in any way I can even if it means getting you in contact with the family member who has been doing most of the research. I do know that Martha had 3 children and she is deceased and buried at a very old cemetery near McPherson, Kansas with her father and a few of her siblings. I know for sure one sister had a farm near Wichita or McPherson because my mom and her sisters always talk about going out there as kids. Also, one other sister also died very young. If you would like you can e-mail me at the user name above at yahoo.com. I don't have a membership anymore so I can't contact you directly through ancestry.

Re: Martha A (Jahn) Hoffman

GeriMeyer12 — 2013-01-25 01:48:59Z

I have been working on the Jahn Family and would like to knew where some of Martha (Jahn) Hoffman brother and sisters ended up. I have some guesses,but I don't know for sure. My grandma always talked about her Uncle Jake where he lived and his family. How some of the family added a s after Jahn. Her uncle George in Ohio changed the J to a Y.
I have a letter written by Martha to my grandma Caroline when Martha had just turned 16 years old. Young and so full of life. If you can help the would be wonderful. If you can't thank you for your time.

Re: Canadian Jahn Family

AndrewJahn — 2013-01-04 20:05:28Z

Here is some info I found on the family from another poster.

Looking for information on ancestors of Frank Jahn, born in Germany 1854, immigrated to Sebastepol area. Don't have year of immigration or birthplace. Children of Frank Jahn were: Herman, John (my father), Mary, Emma, William, Alex, Edith, Minnie, Annie & Amelia. John married Helena Bloedow (my mother). Frank Jahn died in Eganville 1932. Grandfather on the Bloedow side was William born in Kleinseller, Germany 1857. Children of William and wife Matilda Verch were John, Helena (my mother) Emma and Ottilie. Second marriage to Marie Ristau with children: Martha, Hannah, Dorthea, Maria Ann and Frederick. William Bloedow died 1943 in Lyndock/Killaloe. Any information on either the Jahn or Bloedow ancestors would be appreciated.

Re: Canadian Jahn Family

AndrewJahn — 2013-01-04 20:01:04Z

Frank Jahn was my great-great grand father
I can give some info on my family line.

Frank Jahn was the father of my great grandfather John F. jahn
John F. Jahn married helena bloedow and was the father Or Delores, Magdalene, ralph, one other who I forget the name and my grdanfather Reuben Jahn.
Reuben Jahn married martha McCallum and was the father of Reuben Jahn Jr.
William Jahn, David Jahn and my father Charles Jahn.
My uncle ruben has a son named Greg Jahn, and Greg Jahn has two daughters.
So the name has been lost on that line.
William Jahn had a daughter named Joanne Jahn, who had
children under the surname Metcalfe.
David Jahn has one son named Christian Jahn.
My father has six sons and one daughter.
Matthew, Aaron, Nathan, Elsie, Benjamin, Andrew (me) and Gabriel.
Matthew is married to Monnica williams with a son named william Jahn.
Elsie has a son named Maximus Davies.
Aaron Jahn is married to Jennifer Cranston and has a daughter named Rose Jahn.

I don't a lot about my great aunts and uncles.
I know frank Jahn and his family started out in Sebastopol from Germany
(Not sure where in germany)
Deolores is in New york, and ralph changed his surname to John and moved to califronia. Rueben Jahn moved to arnprior and that is where my family is is from. David Jahn lives in Iowa, WIlliam Jahn is in ottawa.
Rueben jahn Jr. Is is thunder bay.
Aaron Jahn and Benjamin Jahn ended up in windsor Ontario.
Matthew and Andrew Jahn are in Kentucky.

I guess that makes us distant cousins.
I would like to Know more About Minnie Jahn and her family line.
I see you posted this years ago...But maybe you'll see my reply.

Andrew

Re: schonberg

sevanderbyl — 2012-11-26 05:25:07Z

I have come across your post by accident
.my great grand mother was their daughter Louisa

Re: PAGLELSDORF/HEAFEMANN

rebholzgary — 2012-11-24 15:51:42Z

BTW -- you may want to add the spelling "Hafermann" to your list of spelling variations for your Carolina Pagelsdorf (d. 1907), because that's what the German newspapers listed as her maiden name (which is not any indeication of correctness).

Re: PAGLELSDORF/HEAFEMANN

winterwhitewolf — 2012-11-21 15:47:22Z

thank you...I will look into that. I never thought about the German Newspapers, but will now. thank you again..
marie

Re: PAGLELSDORF/HEAFEMANN

rebholzgary — 2012-11-21 15:44:09Z

I've replied elsewhere to another version of this Pagelsdorf posting, but there are matches to more of these names found in "Milwaukee's German Newspapers; an index of death notices and related items" (1844-1950). The index remains available to browse through 2012 at the Salzmann Library in suburban Milwaukee. Entries are verified via email.

I'm wondering where your "Heaffemann" spelling came from. Even Häffemann or Haeffemann is not a typical variation for Haffemann Haffeman Hafemann or Hafeman.

Gary Rebholz, compiler/editor
Milwaukee Wis.
gary.rebholz@gmail.com
Indexing Milwaukee's German newspapers continuously since 2007 ...

Re: Jahn family - UK, DE, AFRICA, COBURG

suedebottom1 — 2012-11-15 19:35:00Z

Who are you studying and why?

Chris Smith

Re: Jahn family - UK, DE, AFRICA, COBURG

w283 — 2012-11-15 15:42:37Z

can you tell me more about him im studeying him for a project. i need to know if he invented anything else. and when he died. and when he was bron!!!!!! i need to know befor next monday! plese hlep. jorja mae almonte ps was he in the war?

Re: Jahn family - UK, DE, AFRICA, COBURG

w283 — 2012-11-15 15:41:35Z

Re: Jahn family - UK, DE, AFRICA, COBURG

w283 — 2012-11-15 15:41:34Z

Re: Jahn family - UK, DE, AFRICA, COBURG

w283 — 2012-11-15 15:41:32Z

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

jjahn — 2012-10-12 13:39:31Z

The Hartman jahn was a mason by trade, he supposedly worked on a bridge by Louiseville, moved to Harrison Co. and became a farmer. All the Jahn's left Indiana and moved to Minnesota around 1870 after Hartman died. I grew up in Minnesota and we are now living in King George County Virginia(near Fredericksburg) straight south of DC
Our Spahn's were from Hintersteinau
Johann Franz Spahn b. 26 Apr 1785 , d. 1843
married 4 Oct 1808 Gertrud Herbert b. 29 Nov 1786 Sterbfritz
children: 1. Anna maria 26 Dec 1822 2. Gertrude 5 Oct 1808 3. Anna margaret 22 Dec 1813
Johann Franz's parents were
Johann Heinrich Spahn b. 2 May 1747 Hintersteinau
married Anna maria Stoll (10 children)
he was the son of
Johann Casper Spahn and Elis. Zeth
5 children
he was the son of Daniel Spahn b.? and Elis. Schott b. ?
I will make note of the spelling of Firle
Thanks
June

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

GaryG1054 — 2012-10-11 23:24:39Z

June: I drafted most of a reply but it 'disappeared'. If you now receive 2 replies, I apologize for any confusion. I am still uncertain why this posting system refuses to recognize my formatting but instead creates one long paragraph.

It looks like you only have one ancestor, Maria Schnell, from Giesel. The marriage records in Giesel start in 1720 and the baptismal records start in 1731. The pre-1831 records for Niederkalbach and Eichenreid should be with the Flieden church records. Those records start in 1645. There were earlier records in Flieden which were destroyed in a fire in 1645 caused by a roving group of bandits, murderers and rapists. The first church was started in Flieden in the ninth century. Keep in mind that Neuhof sits extremely close to the Roman Road heading east. Ellers was a very small village near Neuhof, which was absorbed long ago into Neuhof. The church records in Neuhof start in 1686.

The oldest known Catholic church records are in the Fulda city parish, which begin in 1586. Those records are not extremely helpful, because people did not always travel all the way to that church.

I have a lot of records from Flieden and Neuhof which I have transcribed and copied in multiple trips to the archives in Fulda, and I should be able to help you. However I have been very busy at my office and I have plans to visit my children on two upcoming weekends. By the way, not all of the Spahns were Evangelisch-some were Catholic. One of my early ancestors is a Spahn. Basically, two of my great-grandparents were born in villages in the Flieden in the 1840s.

Not all of the names I listed in the response to Stefan are from my ancestors. Rather, those were the Fliedener-type names of people in Mucsi. I should mention that some of the early records do use the spelling as 'Fierle', though the accepted spelling in the Flieden area is now 'Firle'.

Anyway, the map shows the Giesel now seems to be surrounded by woodland, but is just due north of Neuhof and Rommerz (where some of my ancestors are from). I will start paying more attention to the Neuhof records to watch for Giesel. I also have relatives to my ancestors in Hauswurz and Hosenfeld, just west, south-west of Giesel. Giesel is due west of the town of Johannesberg, which has a prominent church and records starting in 1634. There is a fair chance that the pre-1731 Gieselers went to church in Johannesberg.

Now a couple of questions for you: when they first arrived many Fuldaers clustered together in various towns-near people that they already knew. Was there much of a Hessen settlement in Harrison County, Indiana? I gather that you still live in that area. I am curious whether any more Fliedeners settled there.

One last comment: It looks like a lot of us from the Fuldatal are carrying some rather ancient Norman DNA from Scandinavia. The Fuldatal is located on what is not only the best East-West overland invasion route (used by Napoleon on his way to Moscow), but also the best north-south overland invasion route, probably last used by Sweden when it intervened in the Thirty Years War in 1630.

Good to hear from you, and I am sure that we will be communicating further.

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

jjahn — 2012-10-11 11:28:54Z

Hi Gary
interesting list of names. 1712 is about the earliest Catholic records from Fulda
my husband's gggrandfather Hartman Jahn came from Giesel he left there with Anna maria Spahn(an Evangelist) their marriage was forbidden by both families. They ended up in Harrison Co., Indiana. Supposedly came in 1845, stopped briefly in Ohio, then spent a few years in Louisville KY, where he was a mason. he died about 1868 in Indiana, no cemetery, the markers in the Catholic cemetery were distroyed by a developer. His wife and children moved on to Chippewa county Minnesota after his death.
Anyway
Hartman was born 14 June 1813 in Giesel
his parents were Johannes Jahn(9 June 1776 Giesel) and Anna Maria Fierle (12 Sep 1770) Niederkalbach
her parents were Heinrich Fierle and Anna Maria Herbert of Eichenried

Johannes's parents were
Johannes Jahn 16 May 1751 Neuhof &Maria Schnell 24 Nov 1753 Giesel
johannes's parents were
Nicolaus Jahn 20 June 1720 Ellers and Barbara Müller 30 Aug 1721 Ellers Neuhof

Nicolaus's parents were
Johannes Jahn born ?
married 30 Aug 1712 in Ellers
to Anna Gress b??
I Would love to think there are earlier records out there.
June

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

GaryG1054 — 2012-10-10 16:16:35Z

Steve: (Looks like the software omits my paragraphing, and makes the message harder to read). Really great to hear from you. Just a few initial responses: I have been developing a good record of the info contained in the oldest Catholic churches in Flieden and Neuhof, in the Fuldatal. These records generally go back to the mid 17th century. I am making another trip in November to the archives for the Fulda diocese. During my prior research, I have come across quite a few Jahns. Here in Pittsburgh, we have a few Jahn families who are descended from the Fuldatal. In Wheeling W.Va., some Fliedener Jahns also settled, though most in Wheeling now use the spelling of "Yahn". Gersfeld is about 26 km from Neuhof (although Hettenhausen is only about 11 km from Eichenzell). Gersfeld is part of the modern Fulda diocese, but its records only begin in 1821. Hettenhausen apparently did not have its own church (or was Evangelisch). It is necessary to study the map and figure out which older church would have been attended by residents of Gersfeld and Hettenhausen before 1821 (or which older church, before 1821, sent a priest to ride the circuit to those towns and keep records). If we can figure that out, then I can take a look for Johann's birth about 1700 in that older church records, during my next visit. Of course, Gersfeld is close enough to the Hessen/Bayern border that there is no guarantee that the church used before 1821 is in the Fulda diocese.
A few more comments. I have noticed the name of Mucsi elsewhere, and I will try to recall where that was. I do have a publication in German from the Marburg state archives which mentions movements of Fuldaers to that part of Hungary. I think that book mentioned Mucsi. My impression is that some went to Hungary not just for land, but due to other social issues. For example, I recall a story of a Catholic who wanted to marry a Lutheran in Neuhof, but due to the social ostracism, the two moved to a German settlement in Hungary and quietly married without mentioning their different religious backgrounds. I'll bet that couple would be hard to trace.
Looking at your transcriptions of the war memorials, I can definitely state that in addition to Jahn, the other surnames from the Fuldatal are Ruppert, Firle, Hartung, Lotz, Seifert and Hohmann. Of course, the Müller and Weber names could have come from Fuldatal, or almost anywhere else in the German speaking world. I have a Firle in my Fliedener ancestry. The Lotz name appears often in Neuhof and Hauswurz. One of my third cousins, a Flieden native, is married to a person from the Lotz family. The war memorials in the Fuldatal not only show some deceased with my own name, but it looks like the greater Lotz family supplied many soldiers who never returned.
Your info is fascinating. I never heard of the "Stifoller" name. (One old family name in Fuldatal is Föller.) I have met a few of the re-settled Volksdeutsch, but I did not know about the origin of the people re-settled in Kassel. If you have any more information, I would love to learn about it. Jahns and Musci..The conventional wisdom was that most of the Fuldaers who went to Hungary left too early to leave behind any record, and it would be great to find a few in the Bistumsarchiv Fulda.
I started this research in 1975 after visiting Fuldatal for the first time, and learning that the old German section of the city of Pittsburgh was settled mostly by people from those Hessen towns. Although some of the Fuldaers went directly to Wisconsin and West Virginia, most initially settled here. Later some did move on, and I am aware of some Fuldaers who established sizeable farms in southern Illinois. I have really enjoyed this study in population movements, and everyone needs to have some interests away from work. Again, great to hear from you.
Gary Gaertner from Pittsburgh. garygaertner@gmail.com

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

jjahn — 2012-10-10 11:31:24Z

I wonder if this is my Johannes. i have Johannes Jahn married 30 Aug 1712 in Ellers, Kassel to Anna Gress. Child Nicolaus born 20 june 1720 in Ellers(Neuhof-St. Michaels) church records. Who is your Ulrich descended from?
june

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

miramasares — 2012-10-10 04:32:57Z

My name is Stefan Jahn and my family is from Mucsi. Johann Jahn came in 1718 to Mucsi and was listed in 1720 as one of
three German Families, along with 4 Hungarian and 4 Slavic
families. The Slavs (Serbs) were Shepherds and were moved out
to make way for farmers from the Fuldatal, who would benefit the landlord more. Johann Jahn came from Hettenhausen/Gersfeld with his wife Maria Rebecca. The Jahns
prospered in Mucsi and later my great grandfather Ulrich Jahn
ended up in Csibrák, a neighboring village. The people in Mucsi were called Stifollers because they came from Stift Fulda (Bishopric of Fulda) The Fulda farmers also landed up
in Zavod, which is also close to Mucsi. When I visited Mucsi and Csibrak in 2010, I found a WWII memorial with several Jahns listed. On the Church (Sankt Stefan) there were 2 more Jahns who died in WWI. The people of Csibrak
were settled around the city of Kassel, which is in the Fulda valley so our Jahns ended up very close to the area
where they came from in 1718.

Steve Jahn from San Diego miramesares@juno.com

Re: Johann Michael Jahn, Immigrant to New Braunfels, TX 1845

FairviewTexas — 2012-10-09 17:57:06Z

Stephan Klein was my great great great grandfather, a First Founder of New Braunfels. His daughter Anna married Johann Michael Jahn, and their son was Carl Andreas Jahn. Carl married Emma Holtz, and their daughter Anna Emma Jahn married Rudolph Biesele, the author of the History of German Settlements in Texas.

Re: Jahn (Wisconsin) (From June's Research)

cbsmystery — 2012-09-26 11:17:09Z

My ggg-grandma was Christine Jahn, Sophia's younger sister. Christine married Fredrich Winter (b1832, Pruissa) in the late 1850s. If you have any more information about the Jahn family I would like to see it.

Capt. Herman Jahn, 50th Wedding Anniversary, 5/31/1911, Berkeley, CA

sandrabordelon — 2012-06-03 18:10:25Z

BERKELEY COUPLE GIVEN LOVING CUP

Captain Herman Jahn and His Wife Honored at Marriage Anniversary

BERKELEY, May 31.—More than 100 prominent actors and society people from about the bay were present at the golden wedding anniversary reception held by Captain Herman Jahn and his wife in Unity hall this afternoon and evening. Jahn Is a veteran of the Civil war. As a sergeant In the union army lie distinguished himself at Bull Run, and was raised to the rank of lieutenant. At the close of the war, he was mustered out with the rank of captain. He has in his possession an old confederate standard which he captured. Since the couple have lived in California. Mrs. Jahn is connected with the, Goldstein costuming firm, and made the first. costume worn by Nance O'Neil. She is a personal friend of most of the celebreties of the stage today. The employees of the Goldstein firm presented the couple with a silver, loving cup. Assisting them in receiving the guests were the two daughters, Mrs. E. Holmes Foster, and Miss Nellie Jahn, and the following grandchildren: Mrs. E. A. Smith, Mrs. K. M: Holmes, Miss Cathrine Holmes. Calvin Holmes, Henry Holmes and Ovid Holmes.

San Francisco Call, Volume 110, Number 1, 1 June 1911

PAGLELSDORF/HEAFEMANN

winterwhitewolf — 2012-04-07 08:40:13Z

I am looking into my PAGELSDORF family history. My g-g-grandfather was Charles PAGELSDORF B. 25 JUL 1829 in Germany D. 1897 Milwaukee, WI, USA married Caroline HEAFEMANN B. 20 Jul 1829 in Germany D. 1907 Milwaukee, WI, USA. They had 3 children: Johann Ferdinand Wilhelm PAGELSDORF B. 24 Jun 1853 Mittelhagen, Pommerania, Germany D. 1941 Milwaukee, WI, USA and Wilhelm F. PAGELSDORF B. about 1854 in Germany. Date and place of death unknown. Have no information on 3rd child, died before 1900. Both sons married in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Wilhelm's wife divorce him in 1898 at Milwaukee, WI. Wilhelm is my g-grandfather. Last information I have on him is a 1900 Federal Census from Racine County, WI., he is residing on a farm as a hired hand...
...There is also a Wilhelm PAGELSDORF B 3 Jan 1837 Germany D. 1900 Milwaukee, WI married Wilhelmina SEGENBA(R)TH B. 6 Sep 1835 Germany D. 1912 Milwaukee, WI...
...Friedrich Wilhelm Edward PAGELSDORF B. 1 Jan 1953 Germany D 1935 Wisconsin, married in USA...
...Sofia Dorothe PAGESDORF B. 26 Nov 1811 Germany D. 1891 Wisconsin, married John Frederick LADWIG in Germany...
...Ernestina PAGELSDORF B. 1831 Germany D. 1871 Wisconsin, married Frederick Michael GRAMZOW in Germany...
... Any information on this family name would be grateful. There are only a few families with this name in the USA and I am trying to see if they are connected somehow...

Thank you. winterwhitewolf of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA

Re: Otto W. Jahn, Emma Kern Indiana

steveatonsite — 2011-10-26 17:55:44Z

Hello
I am the oldest son of Keith Jahn, whom was the youngest son of Otto, and Emma.
We all grew up in Ft Wayne. I did not know my grandfather Otto as he died just after my birth, however I was quite clost to my grandmother Emma.
Steven E Jahn Sr.

Re: William Christian Jahn Obituary

wrjahn — 2011-10-10 15:26:08Z

I'm new to this, Aunt Maggie was one of my favorites. In the early 50's my father William Christian and I would help them pull corn. She told the story of Dr. Jahn freely and proudly. He interned himself shortly after his first wife died of yellow fever. Aunt Maggie remembered when she was a child,there was another yellow fever epidemic and the farmers owjld fill a wagon with hay as they carried Doctor Jahn from farm to farm. sincn he got little or no sleep at the farms, he would sleep in the wagon as he travelled. Daddy showed me the location of Doctor Jahn's old farm. It is about 2 miles south of Aunt Maggies on a beautiful hill with a large Oak. The house is long gone.

John Henry Jahn

TeresaMyers4551 — 2011-08-28 01:20:17Z

Looking for information about a family tree I have. One half is a descendent tree of Theodore Gross 1821 - 1889. The other half is about John Henry Jahn - no dates, no wife listed
Children - grandchildren:
Henery - Elda, Howard, Gusta, Alvina
Anna - Alfred, Samuel, Anthony, Frieda, Albert
Dora - no children
Tillie - Marion, Alice, Elinore, William, Lillian
Kate - Joseph, Emma, Ester, Ruth, Mamie
Louisa - John
Jacob - Lillian, William, Matie
Joseph - Dora
Theodore - Elmer 1904 (Suzanne), Alice M 1912, Theodore III 1906 (Theodora) This Theodore is the only family in common with the Theodore Gross in the one family tree.

Thanks for your help

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

jjahn — 2011-08-10 11:06:23Z

Thank you for your reply.
I have found my Hartman. I would be very much interested in any connection between your Jahn's and mine.
My Hartman Jahn was Catholic-b. 14 June 1813 in Giesel
wife Anna Maria Spahn b. 26 Dec 1822(Anna Maria was NOT Catholic) I believe they were disowned by both families, thus their immigration to America. I recently learned that Hartman had an older brother who was living in Louisville, KY. Hartman first stoped briefly in Ohio, then spent several years working as a mason in Louiseville. They appear in Harrison county, Indiana in 1860, farmers. Hartman died about 1868 and the family moved to Minnesota.
Hartman's parents:
Johannes Jahn(b. 9 June 1776-Giesel) m. Anna Maria Fierle
Johannes Jahn (b. 16 May 1751-Neuhof) m. Maria Eliz. Schnell
Nicolaus Jahn (b. 20 June 1720-Ellers) m. Barbara Müller
Johannes Jahn (b. abt 1695?) m. Anna Gress on 30 Aug 1712 in Ellers
there are no more Catholic records prior to this in the Fulda archives
If you have Jahn's from the Fulda area, they probably are connected somewhere along the line.
Good Luck
June

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

GaryG1054 — 2011-08-10 05:49:49Z

One more question. Was Hartmann Jahn catholic or 'evangelisch'? I intend to stop in the catholic archives as well.

Re: HESSIAN IMMIGRANTS

GaryG1054 — 2011-08-10 05:47:21Z

I have the book which you identify in your query. I just noticed your inquiry from 2002. Assuming you are still interested, I can tell you the following. First, the book can still be purchased from the state archives in Marburg. I wish that more books had been produced for other decades. I have checked the book. One Hartmann Jahn is listed. He is listed as traveling with Anna Maria Jahn. The annotation is uncertain as to whether the spelling is Jahn or Spahn. Both family names appear in Hessen, and the annotator speculates that Spahn was the wife's maiden name. Hartmann Jahn is listed as last residing in Giesel. This is a small city in Hessen, and Giesel is listed in the 1840s as then still part of the district of Fulda. He was headed for America with 100 Gulden. Personally, I am a little surprised to see a Jahn from Giesel, as the name appears more often in towns much closer to Fulda. Giesel is now a university town, and has been so, for a while. I have Jahns in my extended family from the district of Fulda. I am heading to Germany in October to do a little research. I will spend one day in the civil archives in Marburg. Let me know if you have a specific thing you would like to look into. I can make no promises, but if I have the chance I will check into it. Now I have a question for you. Where did Hartmann Jahn settle in the U.S.? I would be interested in info about Hartmann and his family, as I have spent a lot of years looking into Hessian emigrants and I would like to know if there is any connection with my branch of the Jahn family. By the way, I have also looked at records in Wheeling. One of the early settlers there changed the name to 'Yahn'. Anyway, I hope that this info is helpful. Happy hunting.

JAHN Doris Zeyer 1927-2011 Ohio, Pa.

Contribution — 2011-07-24 16:24:09Z

POLAND, OH – Doris Genevieve Jahn, 84, passed away peacefully at home Saturday, July 23, 2011.

Mrs. Jahn was born May 27, 1927, the second child born to Ray and Erma Zeyer.

She lived her childhood and teen years in Harrison County, Ohio with her parents and siblings, Virginia and Ray.

She graduated from Franklin High School in New Athens, Ohio and then worked at Westinghouse in Pittsburgh, where she met her husband of 64 years, Henry. Doris Zeyer and A. Henry Jahn were united in marriage on June 7, 1947.

She earned her B. A. degree from Youngstown State University and her Master’s from Westminster College in New Wilmington, Pa. Mrs. Jahn taught in the Poland Public School System, retiring in 1989 with 25 years of service. She was a member of the Poland Presbyterian Church.

Mrs. Jahn is survived by her husband of 64 years, Henry Jahn of Poland, Ohio; son, Douglas (Cynthia) Jahn of Parkman, Ohio; daughter, Shelley Elizabeth Jahn of Columbus, Ohio; grandsons, Scott (AnnaLe) Jahn of Lakewood, OH and Benjamin Jahn of Bozeman, Mont.; great-granddaughter, Norah Jahn of Lakewood; brother, Ray (Vivian) Zeyer of St. Clairsville, Ohio; sister-in-law, Audrey Jahn of New Oxford, Pa.; and brother-in-law, John Krymski of Tulsa, Okla.

She will also be missed by many beloved nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, cousins and friends.

Doris was preceded in death by parents, Ray and Erma Zeyer; sister, Virginia McNaughton; in-laws, Dr. Augustus and Elizabeth Jahn; brothers-in-law, Phillip McNaughton, Robert Jahn and Richard Jahn; and sisters-in-law, Ethel Jahn and Dorothy Krymski.

Services will be held at the Cunningham-Becker Funeral Home, Poland Chapel Tuesday at 10 a.m. with Pastor Don Scott Monaco officiating.

Interment will follow at Olive Branch Cemetery on Rte. 250 in Harrisville, Ohio at 2:30 p.m.

Friends are invited to call at the funeral home on Monday from 5 to 8 p.m.

The family suggests memorial contributions be sent to The Franklin Museum, P.O. Box 186, New Athens, OHIO 43981, in memory of Doris Zeyer Jahn or to Trinity Fellowship Church, 4749 South Ave., Youngstown, OH 44512.

Visit www.beckerobits.com to send condolences.

Nicol Caspar Jahn

macdonnelly — 2011-07-09 00:09:19Z

I have just learned a name that goes back one generation farther than any I had before. His name is Nicol Caspar Jahn, probably born in Meuselbach (Thuringia) in the late 1700s, died before 1828. Has anyone heard of this person and his descendants?

William F. Jahn 1837-1920

jfinamore3220 — 2011-06-17 23:21:13Z

I'm looking for information on the parents of William F. Jahn. William was born in Germany and emigrated to the USA in 1856 (according to census records). He lived and died in Erin County, Michigan. There was some anecdotal evidence that suggest his fathers name is Frederick but nothing to substantiate that.
You can post here or contact me via e-mail at jdfin367@gmail.com.
Thanks for any assistance you may be able to offer.
Jeff

JAHN Dennis E - Vietnam Wall section 4W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-06-16 13:13:04Z

JAHN Dennis E - Vietnam Wall section 4W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 221,927 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Emma Jahn (Yahn, Yohn, Yon?)

wgmccall — 2011-06-07 02:28:40Z

Looking for info on Emma Yohn, and husband William Henry Boyd (married probably in 1890's, in Carolinas or Georgia?). William Henry Boyd was killed in accident (working on railroad?) around 1900. Emma remarried in Florida, per family history, but don't know name of second husband. Can find NO information on either of them.

Re: Carl and Bertha (Krause) Jahn family tree

ReimundSchrank — 2011-05-05 21:10:23Z

My Jahn Ancestry are from Podewils, Gross Tychow,Pommern
If you need more info. contact me at reschrank@tm.net

Best of Luck
Reimund Schrank

Gr. Bandelvitz, County Rugen, Germany (Rugen Island)

johnvorwald1 — 2011-05-02 12:06:18Z

Hi,
My g-grandfather, Mathias Jahn, comes from Rugen Island area. b Feb 20 1864, d Jul 3 1931 (LaCrosse Wis).
Mathias married Friederika C Haiik (Hacck / Hawk) in 1885.
Mathias obit is in Obituary La Crosse Tribune page 5, 07/5/1931, but I don't have a copy.
Looking for information on Mathias ancestry / siblings.

Thanks, J. Vorwald

Re: I just got some info today on Jahn's

johnvorwald1 — 2011-05-02 11:58:08Z

Hi,
I'm looking for information on Mathias Jahn. He married Frederika Hacck (Haiik / Hawk). Mathias b Feb 20 1864, Gr. Bandelvitz, County Rugen, Germany (Rugen Island); d Jul 3 1931, La Crosse, Wisconsin. Frederika b Dec 12 1867, d Feb 27 1955, Dubuque, IA.

Jahn in Hessen (Germany)

WGFGER — 2011-04-22 08:16:31Z

"Kreisanzeiger am Sonntag" den 24. Okt. 2010:

Danksagung von Georg und Hildegard Jahn in Obersuhl
fuer die Glueckwuensche, Blumen und Geschenke zur Goldenen Hochzeit.

Re: Jahn's in Ohio

donnajahn — 2011-02-04 15:15:52Z

Hi Sonja I am going to try to contact you. I have been doing a lot of research and finding quite a bit.

Re: Jahn's in Ohio

donnajahn — 2011-02-04 15:13:42Z

There were Jahn's living in Ohio prior to 1880 besides Margaret and the other name you mentioned. Our Jahn's settled in Grove City, Jackson Twp, OH about 1852. Our relative was able to get church records and information. If you want more info please e-mail me. Your Jahn's maybe different family relations. We do not have any Herman's that I have found. Are you looking in the Columbus Oh area? I have some death certificates relating to our family.

Re: Freidrich Ludwig Jahn

johnvorwald1 — 2011-01-22 10:50:31Z

There is some historical information about Freidrich Ludwig Jahn in the Master's thesis, "A BRIEF HISTORY OF GYMNASTICS IN THE LA CROSSE, WISCONSIN, TURNVREIN", RIchard J. Schild, Wisconsin State College, La Crosse, Aug, 1960.

Jahn in LaCrosse Wisconsin

johnvorwald1 — 2010-12-24 12:50:16Z

Hi,

I'm looking for information on descendants and ancestors of Mathias and Freda Jahn. Here's what I know...

My great grandfather was Mathias (alias Walter, Matt) Jahn, born 20 Feb 1864, Germany, died 3 Jul 1931, married abt 1885. He lived and died in LaCrosse, obituary, 07/5/1931, La Crosse Tribune page 5 (I don't have a copy, just a reference). I don't have his burial location.

The person that I have the most trouble with is Mathias' spouse. She went by the name of Freda, which is short for Friederika. She was born in Germany, possibly on 12 Dec 1867. She died 27 Feb 1955, Obituary 02/28/1955 in La Crosse Tribune page 2 (I don't have a copy, only a reference). I'm unclear what Freda's last name was. Some possibilities are: Haaik, Haack, and Slack. I also don't know who her parents were, or her brothers/sisters. I don't have here burial location.

Matt and Freda's children are:

1) Minnie M. Jahn, Nov 19 1884 (Germany) to Jan 13 1919. She marries Louis Dell. Their children are Dorthy, Norrine, Emily, and William.

2) Martha Jahn, Jun 1 1887 (Germany) to Mar 18 1971. She marries Fred Fibeger. They have one child, Fred (Freddie).

3) Herman Jahn, Mar 29 1891 to Oct 8 1950. He marries Rena ?. They have one child, Elaine.

4) Annie Jahn, Dec 15 1894 to May 30 1917.

5) Walter Jahn Mar 13 1899 to Dec 13 1968. He marries Amelia Tschirgi and they have seven children, Helen, Murella, Walter, Adele, Richard, Eugene, and Anne. Helen is my mom. I have Walter's, and Amelia's obituaries.

6) Frieda Jahn, Feb 15 1909 to Mar 1 1909.

Carl and Bertha (Krause) Jahn family tree

nepper3 — 2010-10-16 15:44:56Z

I am working on the family tree for Carl and Bertha (Krause) Jahn from Crawford county, Iowa. If you have any information on this line, please let me know. I'm happy to share what I have already collected.

Re: Friedemann Jahn from Meuselbach

chrisjahn1 — 2010-10-11 04:16:07Z

Hi, Wolfgang-
I've taken over the research for my father, Lou. Thanks for the paperwork, but this isn't our ancestor.

I have our Freideman's emigration records; he came over in 1859, I have his name and occupation on the ship's manifest, and he was granted citizenship in 1866, which is consistent with the 5 year residency requirement.

I did find the family you document in census records, and it gave me a start; but I can put this other Freideman with his parents elsewhere in the US while I have mine getting married in Philadelphia.

It's remarkable how many Jahns have the same first names.

Thank you again!

Jahn / Haaik

johnvorwald1 — 2010-10-06 01:01:30Z

My great grandparents are Mathias Jahn (1862-1931) and Friederika Haaik (1865-1955), my grandparents are Walter Jahn (1899 - 1968) and Amelia Tschirgi (1895-1976), all from Dubuque. Any additional information would be appreciated.