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Re: Joseph Joncas

Salaberry — 2009-06-26 16:53:19Z

Good Day Annie:

To answer your question, I am a Joncas specialist, my beloved mother, that left us 7 weeks ago, was Andrée Joncas Fragasso.

We are not closely related to Théodule. The First Joncas Pierre (1644-1717) had one son Pierre Joncas (1673-1704) that accidently died in a bear trap.

The latter had three sons Pierre Joncas (1697-1775), Joseph Joncas (1701-1762) and Jacques (1704-1782).

Roughly 70% of the North-American Joncas are descendants of Pierre (I'm one of them), 15% are descendants of Joseph Joncas widespread in Gaspé area and 15% are descendants of Jacques numerous in the Kamouraska-Témiscouata County.

Théodule is one of the latter.

A fact to note is that Jean-François Joncas that was on the roster of the Bengals of Cincinnati in the NFL was another descencant from Jacques. He currently is the head coach of the Cougars of the Champlain College near Sherbrooke, Québec.

Best Regards!

Michel Fragasso
Québec (Québec)

Re: Joseph Joncas

krk32292 — 2009-06-26 04:48:34Z

Good day Michal
Last time I spoke you knew so much about Theodore Joncas. How do you know so much about him. Do you have any info. on his side of the family. He was married to my great-grandmother, so I wanted to know about his side of the family. Thank you for anything. Annie

Re: Joseph Joncas

krk32292 — 2009-06-25 02:39:55Z

Re: photos of Maurens - Pierre Joncas family

denisjoncas — 2009-03-27 02:44:25Z

Yes I did in 04, I'll get an alert in my email if you reply to this post. I can send you some photos

Re: Ladouceur and Joncas

lltradll — 2009-01-26 04:39:15Z

Superb!

My sister just sent me a message sayinf that whn my aunts and uncles were crossing the border, they were gong to uncle Alphonse, in Syracuse, in 1923.

JP

Enjoy!

Re: Ladouceur and Joncas

patepe — 2009-01-26 02:00:50Z

Hello JP,

The person who gave me that information has passed on. I have been doing genealogy for a long time with long gaps in between activity.

I just started the Joncas side. There is only one member of the Alphonse generation still living. That is Herman Joncas, son of Alphonse. He is in his 90's. Alphonse and Louise had 8 living children. I think all but the last two were born in Canada.

Alphonse's daughter Lillian is my mother-in-law. She also has passed. However, the generation of their children are still around and able to be contacted. I have some information from them that I have not placed in order yet.

The children of Alphonse did not know anything about his family short of the information I gave you about Constant, etc. I did find a Registration Card for Alphonse and he lists his birthday as Aug 4 1877 so we are connecting the correct people.

I am trying to set up a My Face page for the Joncas family. When I get it going, I will invite you to join.
I understand there are still some off-spring of brothers or sisters or cousins to Alphonse still in Syracuse. I will make an attempt to contact them.

Thanks Again,
Pat

Re: Ladouceur and Joncas

lltradll — 2009-01-25 18:43:58Z

Hi,

Gaspé is a peninsula at he easter part of the province of Québec. Gaspé is also a town at the eastern tip of the peninsula, it is the start of North America discovery by the French. Grande-Rivière is a town 100 km west of Gaspé. This is where yhe family mentionned was born and living.

If you google Gaspé,Grande-Rivière, you will find everything you need.

The Roman Catholic registers usually indicate parents of bride and groom.

I suppose Marion is for Marianne, Coustas for Constant.

The names are the ones of my great-grand-father family:
Simon born 1869
Constant born 1870, had a son Paul, but not a bishop; also had a daughter named Jeanne
Charles-Louis-Marie born 1872
Marianne-Mathilde born 1873, married Smith, a daughter named Jeanne-Mathilde
Alphonse-Marie born 1878

I noticed that Alphonse and Marie-Louise Ladouceur lost 2 kids at yon age in Ottawa.

Who is Alphonse's daughter who gave you infos?
Does she now more about Simon-Pierre?
Charles-Louis Marie died in 1955in Grande-Rivière. Lived all his adult life in the USA.
Constant, my grand-father died in 1951 in Grande-Rivière.
Marie-Anne-Mathilde (Smith)died in Ontario, Ca.
Uncle Paul died in Québec City in 1991.
Tante Jeanne died in Grande-Rivière in 1989.

Jeanne, Paul, Arthur (my father), Georgette, all lived in NY State in the late 1920s.
Marie-Berthe-Antonia, may aunt, lived in NY City all her life. She died in 1991.

Alphonse's brother, Arthur, was shot to death in Clifton, NY state, on june 1, 1908 in a lumberjack camp by the foreman.

Hope to hear from you.

JP JOncas

Re: Ladouceur and Joncas

patepe — 2009-01-25 16:32:43Z

Hello JP,

I have just started the Canadian Genealogy, so I am not very knowledgable about French names and Canadian towns. Can you tell me about Gaspe? Is it a town, a district?

The bordering crossing I have for Alphonse dated 1909 lists his birthday as around 1889. A census that I found lists his birthday as Aug 1884. Your Alphonse, 1878, may be too early.

This is a little more information from his eldest daughter.
Alphonse JOncas, Father from Gaspe, Quebec, Lumberjack.
Parent's names unknown. Sisters, Marion Joncas Smith, Brothers Coustas (he may have had a son named Paul who was a Bishop in Gaspe), Simon and Charles. Either Marion or Coustas may have had a daughter Jeanne.

I appreciate any help. How would I go about getting a marriage license for Alphonse and Mary Louise? My guess would be they married in Ottawa - Mary Louise is from there and family talk says Alphonse went there looking for work and they met. Does the Canadian license lists parents names?

Is Gaspe very big and is Joncas a common name? Thanks, Pat

Re: Ladouceur and Joncas

lltradll — 2009-01-25 14:45:54Z

Hi,

It would be interesting to get their marriage.

The only Alphonse I can match for now is Alphonse-Marie son of Joseph Joncas and Mathilda Beaudin, born august 3, 1878 in Grande-Rivière, comté de Gaspé.

JP

Ladouceur and Joncas

patepe — 2009-01-20 16:59:25Z

Alsphonse Joncas born in Gaspe, Canada married Marie Louise Ladouceur (parents were Gideon and Selinca Facette or Fawcette). They lived in Eastview, Ottawa for a while. Other city names are Oglivy, Goose Bay. The moved to Syracuse NY. If any names ring a bell, please let's talk.
Pat

Ladouceur and Joncas

patepe — 2009-01-20 16:59:25Z

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Re: Daughters of Anastasia Joncas

lltradll — 2008-09-21 23:01:11Z

Bonjour Marie-André,

Voici la liste des enfants:

Marie-Euphémie 1870
Anastasie-Félicité 1872
Lucy m. Melorn Murohy en 1896, Prob. Félicité
Louise-Anne 1873
Marie-Célina 1875
Élizabeth-Clémentine1877
Édouard-Célestin 1879
Jane-Emma 1881
Joseph-Alexander 1885
Guillaume-Jacques 1887

Il y en a prob. eu entre 1881 et 1885, je ne sais pas.

Sauriez-vous où et quand sont décédés Louis-Arcade Leblanc et Élizabeth Porlier née Poirier?

Merci!

Re: Daughters of Anastasia Joncas

marieandreejoncas — 2008-09-21 21:16:32Z

Bonjour
Prénoms et dates de naissance des 6 premiers enfants d'Élizabeth Porlier et L-Arcade Leblanc (BMS2000): M-Euphémie, Anastasie-Félicité, Louise Anne, M-Célina,Elizabeth-Clémentine, Edouard-Célestin. Rien d'autre ensuite

Daughters of Anastasia Joncas

lltradll — 2008-06-15 13:55:19Z

Anastasia Joncas was married in 1945 to Julien Porlier in Grande-Rivière, Qc. They had 5 kids. Around 1853, Juien disappeared.
Anastasia was later (1854-55) found in Belledune, N.-B. married to William Doyle. Theay had 4 kids. Her kids with Julien Porlier stayed back in Grande-Rivière until 1861 at least. We do not know anything between 1861 and 1871.

Then The Doyles moved (ca 1883)to the states with 3 kids. One stayed back in Jacquet River, N.-B.

We find one daughter of Anastasia and Juien Porlier, Élizabeth married in 1869 in Dalhousie, N.-B. to Louis-Arcade Leblanc (Jean and Louise-Félixité Cyr. They moved right away to Cascapédia, Qc. until 1880 where they had 6 kids. They moved back to Nash Creek in 1880, where they had at least 3 other kids. Then around 1888, they vanished, prob. migrating to the states.

We find a second daughter of Anastasia and Juien Porlier, Marie-Celina married in 1871 in Dalhousie, N.-B. to John-Baptiste Vien of Lévis, Qc. They moved right away to Lévis where they had at least 9 kids. 3 died very young. After 1884, they vanished, prob. migrating to the states.

In 1919, one Vien daughter, Marie-Emma-Célina went in the states for a short period. She gives for next of kin James Rufus Doyle, her grand-mother's Doyle son of Durham N-B. In 1920, she marries James-Rufus Doyle's son, David-Arthur Doyle in BC, Ca. We are in contact with one of their son in BC who is sending us a photo of Marie-Emma Célina Vien and Marie-Célina Porlier/Poirier.

Would anyone have further informations about the Leblanc and Vien family?

Jean-Pierre Joncas
lltrad@hotmail.com

Re: Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec

lltradll — 2008-02-22 00:23:47Z

Allo Marie-Andrée,
voir ce site pour la souche Joncas.

http://www.fichierorigine.com/detail.php?numero=242168

Les dates mentionnées dans votre messahe sont erronées.

JP Joncas

Re: Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec

MichelFragasso10 — 2008-01-12 02:06:44Z

Bonjour!

Pierre Joncas (Junca) et son fils Pierre II n'ont pas vécu à l'Île d'Orléans.

Ils ont vécu toute leur vie à Montmagny et l'Île aux Oies. Ils se sont mariés avec des femmes de l'Île d'Orléans, ce qui explique leurs mariages à cet endroit.

Jusqu'à très récemment, on se mariait toujours dans la paroisse d'origine de l'épouse.

Salutations!

Michel Fragasso
(Fils d'Andrée Joncas)
Québec (Québec)

Re: Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec

lltradll — 2007-08-31 00:22:41Z

I see what you mean!!!!!!!!!

http://www.fichierorigine.com/recherchea.php?nom=a

Go to letter J

JP Joncas

Re: Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec

marieandreejoncas — 2007-08-30 23:43:03Z

Bonjour Jean Pierre
OOPS ? de quelle adresse s'agit-il ??

For Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Family name Pouliot in Gaspe

2006-11-21 03:46:39Z

Hi Jean Pierre,
How are you doing, hope well. Do you know of this
last name in Gaspe. The last name is Pouliot. I have
never herd of that name before. Can you please let
me know and if there is any lineage also.
Take care
Lucie

Re: Joseph Joncas

2006-11-09 02:03:11Z

Good Day Annie!

Joseph was also called Théodore Joncas or Théodule Joncas . He was born April 3rd 1889 in Ste-Louise in the riding of Kamouraska-Témiscouata.

He married Catherine Perreault May 22nd 1916 in East-Jaffrey New-Hampshire.

The father of Joseph were Désiré Joncas and Philomène Lizotte.

I would be greatly interested to have the chidren of Joseph and Catherine Perreault. I don't have any descendants.

All the Best!

Michel Fragasso
Québec (Québec)

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-16 13:35:51Z

Thanks again Jean-Pierre.
Lucie

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-16 11:10:01Z

Hi Lucie,

I do not know if Joseph remarried and where and when he died.

JP

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-16 01:34:41Z

Hi Jean-Pierre,
So Pierre and Phoebee were his parent's. Now I'm happy.
Take Care
Lucie
PS Did Joseph Beliveau have a second wife after Anne
Beaudin died?
Thanks again

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-15 23:02:26Z

Of course,

JP

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-15 22:50:21Z

Hi Jean-Pierre,
Phoebee Bujold and Pierre Beliveau were Josepaht's Beliveau's parent's right. Someone told me that Elizabeth
couture was married first to a Elizabeth Couture. Is that
true? I hope not.
Take Care
Lucie

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 14:00:26Z

Hi Jean-Pierre,
Thanks again. Must find out where he is burried. Thought
for sure in Grande-Riviere.
Take Care
Lucie

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 13:58:06Z

Hi Jean-Pierre,
So both were in Grande-Riviere. Actually I don't know
where Charles and Osithe died.
Take Care
Lucie

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 13:55:00Z

Thank You Jean-Pierre.
Take Care
Lucie

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 12:04:29Z

Hi again Lucie,

they were married in Pabos after deportation, see all the other answers.

JP

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 12:02:53Z

Hi Lucie,

I might have misled you in saying Joseph was deported. His parents were deported after being married in Port-Royal, Acadie on jan 20 1755. Joseph was born ca 1763 in Boston while in deportation.

His father Charles died in St-Jacques de l'Achigan, Qc. in 1796. I do not have infos on his mother (Osithe Dugas) death. Maybe same place.
I have no source for this.

Joseph moved to Grande-Rivière before 1791 and married Marie-Anne Beaudin in Pabos on sep 12 1791. Witnesses were F. de la Fontaine, Joseph Méthot, Michel Bérault, François Dupuis. Marie-Anne was born (Pierre and Charlotte Dupuis) in Québec or GR on august 20 1767. She was baptised 10 years later in GR.

Do you know where and when Charles and Osithe died?

JP

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 11:45:13Z

Hi Lucie, my previous answer stands:

I have a Joseph Béliveau born Boston (deported Acadian) and baptised in l'Assomption, Qc (check the Map). He married Marie-Anne Beaudin in Pabos on sep 12 1791.
I do not have infos on Joseph Béliveau's death and burial. Do you know?????

Marie-Anne Beaudin died in Grande-Rivière on feb 20 1804. She was buried there the next day.

Grande-Rivière parish is named L'Assomption Notre-Dame de la Grande-Rivière.

JP

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 01:45:52Z

Hi Jean-Pierre,
Sorry to bother you again. Now when they were deported,
were they not married or not.
Take Care
Lucie

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 01:43:50Z

Hi Jean-Pierre,
Sorry to bother you again. Now when they were deported,
they weren't married. I thought they were married and
then ended up in Pabos.
Take Care
Lucie

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-12 01:26:24Z

Hi Jean-Pierre,
What I find out is where is Joseph Beliveau burried. You
would think he was in Grande-Riviere, with his wife
Anne Beaudin. I looked at the map and I can't figure
where it is. What were they doing there and how come
they were baptised there. Can't figure that out. Weren't
they married in Acadia?

Re: To Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Flore Tremblay and Josephat Beliveau

2006-05-11 18:24:59Z

Hi Jean-Pierre,
You sure are right. Have you found any of my Family
members yet?
Thanks again
Lucie

Re: For Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Family name Pouliot in Gaspe

lltradll — 2006-12-31 02:58:36Z

Sorry,

I have no Pouliot marriage up to 1941 in my documentation.

Hapy new year

JP

Re: For Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Family name Pouliot in Gaspe

lltradll — 2006-12-29 20:51:17Z

Hi

Pouliot was not a common name in the Gaspé.

One Dr Camile Pouliot living in Cap-d'Espoir became minister of hunting and fisheries in the Québec government. You can read about it here: http://www.assnat.qc.ca/FRA/Membres/notices/o-p/POULCE.htm

JP

Re: Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec

lltradll — 2007-08-25 19:44:38Z

Hi,

Have you checked with this addres?

Ciao

Jean-Pierre Joncas

Pronunciation of Joncas

FMBush57 — 2006-12-06 03:22:40Z

How is the name "Joncas" pronounced?

Is it pronounced "JON-kah"?

Is it pronounced "ZSHON-kah"?

Am I coming close to the correct pronunciation?

Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.

Re: Pronunciation of Joncas

FMBush57 — 2006-12-06 03:22:40Z

Thank you so much for your response. You have been very helpful.

Obit for: William Joncas, 92

kmart111 — 2006-11-17 12:18:12Z

I am not related , just passing this obit on.

William Joncas, 92, of Riverview Towers, 301 Milliken Boulevard,
Fall River, formerly of William St., died Thursday, September 7, 2006
at Catholic Memorial Home.

He was the husband of Irene (Beaulieu) Joncas.

A lifelong resident of Fall River,
he was the son of the late Philip L. and Laura (Bouchard) Joncas.

Mr. Joncas was employed at the Newport Naval Base for 36 years.

An Army veteran of WW II and a European African Middle Eastern Theater Campaign Ribbon recipient, he served in Naples-Foggia, Southern France, Rhineland, Central Europe and Rome-Arno.

He was a member of the Holy Name Society of St. Anne Parish,
the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

Besides his wife of 69 years, he is survived by

a son, William R. Joncas and his wife
Lorraine (Kalil) Joncas of Westport;

3 grandsons, Dr. Christopher S. Joncas and his wife Julia,
David W. Joncas and his wife Lauren Peters Joncas
and Paul M. Joncas and his wife Tara;

4 great-granddaughters, Emma, Elizabeth, Maya and Lily Joncas

and nieces and nephews.

He was the father of the late Jacqueline Joncas and

the brother of the late Alice Mitchell.

His funeral will be held Monday at 9:15 AM from the
AUCLAIR FUNERAL HOME, 690 So. Main St., Fall River,
with a funeral mass in St. Anne Church at 10:00 AM.

Re: For Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Family name Pouliot in Gaspe

lucie79 — 2006-12-31 01:15:04Z

Hi JP,
Happy New Year to you. JP, can you get me 4 generations
of this family? I am looking for a Paul Pouliot.
Apparently he says he come's from Gaspe, but
I have never herd of him before. I am wondering
if he a decendant of Dr. Pouliot. I would appreciate
your help.
Take Care
Lucie Eby

Re: For Jean-Pierre Joncas Re Family name Pouliot in Gaspe

lucie79 — 2006-12-31 16:40:14Z

Hi JP,
Thank you. I just found that Dr. Camille Pouliot had
a son by the name of Micheal. Now JP, where would I
find this info? I would appreciate your help.
Take Care
Happy New Year to you
Lucie

Re: Joseph Joncas

ANNEKAST75 — 2007-04-28 02:48:30Z

Hello Micheal

Sorry it took so long to get back. Computer broke down and had to get a new one. Catherine and Joseph Joncas didn't have any children together. Catherine did. His name was Joseph Paul Perreault. He was the only child that I know of. I have french paper, but I don't understand them. I don't know who Joseph Perreault father was. How are you related in this family. Catherine was my gr grandmother. I have pictures of Catherine and Joseph Joncas together. Look forward in hearding from you. If you would like you may email me at apkast33@aol.com. Thank you Annie

Joseph Joncas

ANNEKAST75 — 2006-11-06 15:02:57Z

I am looking for the parents and family of Joseph Joncas. He was born April 5, 1887 or 1889 in St. Louis, Quebec, Canada. He married Catherine Perreault, daughter of Francis Perreault and Angele Cournoyer. Catherine was born about 1877 in Canada.

Joseph and Catherine Joncas were living in Jaffrey, New Hampshire in the 1920 and 1930 census. Joseph died April 1963 in Jaffrey, NH. Thank you.

.

Re: Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec

slussier_1 — 2007-08-22 04:02:37Z

Pierre Joncas never lived on Ile d'Orleans so therefore would not be included in the "root" families of Ile d'Orleans. Pierre lived across the river on the south bank of Riviere St-Laurent near the town Berthier-en-Bas. His marriage occurred in Ste-Famille because his spouse Jacqueline Boulet was from that parish.

Re: Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec Erratum

marieandreejoncas — 2007-08-19 22:37:06Z

maried in 1672 - not 1612

photos of Maurens - Pierre Joncas family

marieandreejoncas — 2007-08-19 22:35:56Z

Does anyone has travelled to Gascogne and has photos of the village or other sites of interest of the family of Pierre Joncas, born in 1644 (son of Antoine Joncas and Arnaude Galline?)

Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec

marieandreejoncas — 2007-08-19 22:17:26Z

Hi - Does any one as an explanation for this ??

on a recent trip to Ile d'Orleans, I could not find "Joncas" as a famille souche ("root family") in Quebec.
ref: http://www.iledorleans.com/fra/familles_souches.asp - no Joncas

However, I had read that the first Joncas in North America (Pierre) lived and got married there, in Ste-famille or St-Pierre Parish ("La première trace qu’on en trouve est dans les registres de la paroisse de Ste-Famille de l’Ile d’Orléans, le 8 juin 1612. C’est son acte de mariage. Il était alors âgé de 24 ans et son épouse, Jacqueline Boulé, de 14 ans")

Does any one as an explanation for this ??

Re: Ile d'orleans - Pierre Joncas -not a root family in Quebec

marieandreejoncas — 2007-08-22 05:36:41Z

thank you -
I had not think of that - That is true, weddings would be in the wife parish most of the time. - I do not know exactly where Berthier en bas is, but it is true that he died in Montmagny (same county), on the south bank of the St-Laurent. Do you have other informations on the family life there ?