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Norma Kagel & her Parents

MichaelSalch — 2011-11-18 05:32:02Z

My name in Mike Salch and I just got on Ancestry here for the first time (Nov 2011.) My father was Francis G. Salch, a brother to Marge Salch who was Norma Kagel's moher. As a very young child, a vaguely remember Norma, Marge and Melvin Gaisford(Norma's parents) when they lived over on Oakland Ave. This was about 1950-1955.

I am very interested in Norma and Marge (Norma's mom.)

I am at MichaelSalch@MSN.com

Thanks

Obituary: Walter Raymond Kagel

joytoza — 2010-01-08 04:23:29Z

Walter Raymond Kagel, 84, of Dayton, NV died in Carson City, NV on Jan. 5, 2010. He was born in Detroit, Mich., May 8, 1925, to Walter Henry and Pearl Elizabeth Kagelmacher.

FROM - http://www.nevadaappeal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=201010...

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Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

CJP92 — 2009-10-20 16:45:27Z

Hi Penny,
I have nothing on your branch of the family tree. I have Nellie as an only child, so it's good to know that she had at least one sibling. I'd appreciate anything that you'd like to share.

Cindy

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

pennylee1952 — 2009-10-18 22:47:15Z

Hi,
Just came across this message,Sarah Gantt was my Great grandmother,Nellie was my great Aunt..I have and old picture of Nellie And brother Freddie and their mother Sarah.

Penny Gantt-Lee

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

CJP92 — 2009-09-20 23:13:46Z

Linda,
I did get the message that you sent me. I will be responding. I do have a ton of information on the Gaisford line.

Cindy

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

callisonln — 2009-09-20 03:43:05Z

I am a a first cousin to Norma Jean Kagel, daughter of L.W.(Ted) Gaisford and granddaughter of Jay and Nellie Gantt Gaisford. I received some information from Donna Eilts of Minonk regarding the Guy, Gantt, Pickard and Gaisford families. I do have a photo of the William Guy family reunion with my Grandfather, Jay Gaisford as a young man with his aunts, uncles, cousins and mother, Anna Guy. For some reason William Gaisford is not in this family portrait. I do not have a photo of Jay even though it seems that my father did have one at some time. I would love to have the information on the Gaisfords which Cindy Pickard says she has.
Linda Gaisford Callison

Re: Charles Kagels-Henrietta Gelis Married Chicago 1879

kdramsay1 — 2009-06-04 00:29:28Z

I am kdramsay@att.net. Let me hear from you.

Re: Charles Kagels-Henrietta Gelis Married Chicago 1879

wwjohnston — 2009-06-04 00:22:10Z

Hello, Cousin!!

You have the elder William Gelis' siblings wrong. Let's take this to direct e-mail to untangle things. My e-mail is wwjohnston@aol.com -- and I am the one who wrote the Summer 1984 newsletter.

Re: Charles Kagels-Henrietta Gelis Married Chicago 1879

kdramsay1 — 2009-06-03 20:49:14Z

I am new to this and only have old hand written charts done by my parents. I have read your other notes.

Charlie and Johanna Kagels were siblings and married siblings Minnie (Frederickha) and William Gelis. Charlie and Minnie had about 10 children. Known ones are Charlie, Frank, Albert, Ted, Minnie and Ida. Ida married Walt McParlin - bo They had three children, Norma Jean Wahl, Leona, and Walter Jr. who married Jean and they had three children, Laurie, A.W. and Peter. Minnie married Henry Berg and they had three children Dorothy m. Warren Marshall, Ruth m. Robert Peterson and Henry.

The elder William Gelis who married Johanna Kagels had 4 siblings, John, Mary Kluth, Kate Schomberg and another daughter who married someone named Krause.

William Gelis (b.5 Dec. 1879, d. 2 Jan, 1922) was a Chicago fireman and was killed in a false fire alarm when two fire engines collided. His widow was Fanchion (Fannie) Brixel. His father was Wm. H. Kagels and his mother Johanna. He is buried at Forest Home Cemetery in Chicago. He had two daughters, Adele Gelis (b. 20 July 1915) m. Jefferson Kirkpatrick and Nathalie Gelis m. Alfred Wulff. Nathalie survives. William Gelis was my grandfather's brother.

William Gelis' parents were Willaim Gelis and Johanna Kagels. They also had 4 other children - Alice Gelis m. Albert Eeles, Harry Gelis (my grandfather) m. Bertha Burkhardt, Ann Gelis m. Arthur Sproul and Charles.

I do have one copy of the Staack, Schaumburg, Gelis newsletter from the summer of 1984. I would be glad to share it. It is confusing as so many individuals were given the same family names.

To help you, I hope, my Grandfather, Harry C. Gelis' parents were William Henry (b. 9 Jan 1850 d. 12 Oct 1928) was married to Johanna. He was a carpenter and his father was August Gelis born in Hesse, Germany and his mother was Dorothea. William Henry is buried at Concordia.

Most of the notes come from Waldheim Cemetery, Concordia, Graceland, Dunning and St. Joseph Cemetery.

Hope this helps and doesn't confuse you.

Re: Charles Kagels-Henrietta Gelis Married Chicago 1879

kdramsay1 — 2009-06-02 13:08:05Z

I m currently out of town, but will do some research and get back to you later this week. I looked at your other posts and did not recognize any other names.

Re: Charles Kagels-Henrietta Gelis Married Chicago 1879

wwjohnston — 2009-06-02 12:28:30Z

Yes, I am very interested in this information. I do not know of any other way of contacting you than through this Ancestry.com board.

Re: Charles Kagels-Henrietta Gelis Married Chicago 1879

kdramsay1 — 2009-06-01 22:15:01Z

I think I may have some information for you. My grandmother( bd 1899 )was married to a Gelis and I have records about Kagels. Let me hear from you.

Re: Anna Kagel

LarryZiemer500 — 2005-07-28 19:31:05Z

my g uncle was Henry Wienke a brother to my Grandmother Emma Ziemer/ Wienke, do you know when
John and Doritha ziemer/ Vollmer,birth and death dates are
and what cemetery they are in Glenwood. They also were my g uncle and aunt. contact me if yoy would

Anna Kagel

2003-10-18 22:51:46Z

My great Grandmother was Anna Kagel. Daughter of Karl Kagel and Heneretta Bostman. She was born in Danville, Ill on 12/10/1874. She was married to Henry Wienke. They moved to Wisconsin in the early 1900's.

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

2003-08-30 03:41:09Z

I am David Allen Kagel. I am from Danville, CA. My grandfather, Irwin Robert Kagel, is a native of New York. His parents immigrated to the U.S.A from Austria. My grandfather changed the spelling from Kegel to Kagel. Most of my family lives in California. I hope this helps.

Carolina Fredricki Kagel

heppnfam — 2003-05-24 13:16:30Z

Anyone with any information on Carolina or Caroline, I would really appreciate it. I'm looking for my husbands grandmother
and grandfather and her family.
Carolina was married to Alexander Pink. She was the
daughter of Herman and Hennrietta.Carolina was born 1878 and died in 1944.

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

2003-02-09 03:33:16Z

My family is currently doing family history as well. My grandfather, Irwin Robert Kagel, is from New York. His family originated from Austria. He changed my last name to Kagel from Kegel. We have around 13 generations of history. Please keep in touch.

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

2003-01-31 03:38:56Z

yes, please send info-i will check it against what i have.
i will also look for photos-my mom had lots of photos with no names on back.
Dave

I see my brother Jim in CA has also been in contact with you

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

2003-01-30 07:42:46Z

I am a distant cousin. (A 4th cousin according to my family tree software program.) I have quite a bit of information on the Gaisford clan. I would love to pass on the information that I have collected over the years if you are interested. I have been able to trace back to your great great great great grandparents, Charles Gaisford and Rachel (Cogswell) Gaisford. There were quite a few Gaisfords and Cogswells from Wiltshire, England, where they lived. I do have added information about Rachel (Cogswell) Gaisford's parents, grandparents, and great grandparents, but I'm not sure on the authenticity of that information.

I would love to have you check the information that I have on your branch of the family to see if you have any added information or corrections. I will send that to you directly by e-mail. Also, do you have any old pictures of your great grandfather, Jay Gaisford, or his parents, William Gaisford and Anne (Guy) Gaisford?

Cindy

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

2003-01-30 07:36:43Z

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

2003-01-28 17:50:13Z

I am Norma and Melvins second oldest son. I have been living
and working in California for over 25 years. I am a sculptor for
SPX films. I am curious if there is any information on my great-grandparents Jay R. Gaisford and Nelly B. Gantt, born
1880 and 1885. Thank you.

James Kagel

Re: Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

2003-01-28 04:45:36Z

Melvin and Norma were my parents--what do you need to know?

Also William Gelis-Johana Kagels Married Chicago 1876

wwjohnston — 2003-01-13 23:59:21Z

It may be that a Gelis brother and sister married a Kagels sister and brother.

I have found the 22 May 1876 marriage at Chicago's St. Matthew's German Evangelical Lutheran Church of William Gelis (the brother of Henrietta Gelis) to Johana Kagels (was she the sister of the Charles Kagels, who married Henrietta Gelis?).

So I am definitely interested to hear from anyone researching either of these lines.

Charles Kagels-Henrietta Gelis Married Chicago 1879

wwjohnston — 2003-01-13 08:03:08Z

I am researching the GELIS family in Chicago, and one daughter Henrietta GELIS (also known as Louise GELIS or Louisa GELIS) married Charles KAGELS in Chicago on 26 Oct 1879 at Immanuels Church (Lutheran / Evangelical) -- marriage performed by Rev. Louis Hoelter. She was 21 and he was 25 and they both resided in Chicago.

I have no record of them beyond this, except for a mention of them in the probate records of her parents in 1891, which give no further information.

So if you have any information on them or are a descendant of them, I would very much like to hear from you.

Melvin & Norma Jean Kagel - 1920s - Illinois

CJP92 — 2002-09-28 17:31:10Z

I'm looking for descendants of Melvin Raymond Kagel and Norma Jean (Gaisford) Kagel from McLean County, Illinois.

They had 4 children:
Jay Randall Kagel
James Warren Kagel
David Allen Kagel
Barbara Ann Kagel

If you have information about this family, please contact me.

Cindy Pickard