Thank you for taking the trouble to do a look up for me. It's earlier i need to go. I have William Kail Married first to Ellen Sunderland, then to Racheal Shepperd .I have both marriage details. But on the first marraige it was before 1837 so no named father on the cert. The second marriage shows his father was another William Kail, a gamekeeper by trade. This is who i'm looking for. Possible he was from Dorset.
There's aways more digging to do, of which i enjoy.
Thanks again for your help,