Diane it would be easier for you to e-mail me at Dancnstar@aol.com. i would love to corresponde with you on this. we are most likely related. i am from the Anthony or Antony Karman side of the family coming from germany around Bavaria around mid 1800's. He had a sons Andrew,Leonard and Jacob Karman, and a daughters Roseanna and Catherarina.They have moved the borders of france and germany so much it depends on where the border actually was at the time of the documentation on these Karmans. a lot of our Karmans have different spellings to their names. Some spell with a C and some With a K. Looking to hear from you soon. Cindy