Yes that is my John, I think, I posted some 1920 census today so check message board Kinter: My John, father of Zula Mae Kinter that married James Dempsey from Traverse City Michigan. All census have his age 11-1848 and wife was Elizabeth, see 1900 census I posted on message board. Zula's son Russell was murdered in Phoenix, do you have inform. I have plenty. Also was in touch with Delrose another daugh of Zula and James up to about 5 yrs. ago. Spoke on phone. Contact me at boosterjag@yahoo.com and I will fill in details as will you. Nice to me you.