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    <pubDate>2013-04-30 15:09:57Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven/deKoven/Lewis (from Hinda)</title>
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      <description>Hi my grandfather  had a brother Phillip from new york &lt;br&gt;Our family our in South Africa </description>
      <pubDate>2013-04-30 15:09:57Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Kovensky, Coven</title>
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      <description>My Name is Jill Coven.  My grandfather, Morris Coven (Kovensky) came from Lithuania (Daugi, Trakai, Vinius) to Boston in 1916 with 3 brothers, Issac, Samuel, Louis and their cousin Leo.  &lt;br&gt;I am looking for any relatives or information on any ancestors.  Particularly, a cousin who was in Siberia in the late 50's.</description>
      <pubDate>2012-12-29 17:15:08Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Though this letter may come as a surprise to you, please kindly take the time to read it carefully as it deals with a serious matter concerning a potential relative of yours. &lt;br&gt;This is by no means a prank or joke.&lt;br&gt;I am a French psychiatrist specialized in criminology and I am currently writing a book on Eugen Weidmann, the man who assassinated in July 1937 a young American dancer named Jean de Koven.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have already found a few specific pieces of information thanks to Paris police archives that I have been authorized to examine :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Born in Boston, on the 29th of march 1913, this young woman, lived in France for a few days with her aunt Ida Sackheim, during the famous world fair known as the ."Exposition Universelle."in july 1937. Her aunt was her mother, Fannie Sackheim’s sister. Ida Sackheim worked as a fashion illustrator in New York and lived at 439 West End avenue NY.&lt;br&gt;Her office was located at 63 West 38 street NY, Phone Wisconsin 7-3266.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Jean de Koven had a brother named Henry de Koven born in 1908 who was 29 at the time and who lived with his parents (Abraham de Koven and Fannie Sackheim and his sister in New York at 10 Ocean Park Way in Brooklyn . He was apparently the Director of Radiocoin company located at 247 Park avenue,NY (I'm not sure of this last information). &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;I would like to get in touch with her descendants to ask them a few questions for my book. I am especially interested in finding out more about this young lady's family. &lt;br&gt;Unaware of whether or not Henry de Koven had any descendants , I have taken the liberty of contacting you &lt;br&gt;Feel free to contact me by email at &lt;a href="mailto://catherine.carreorengo@wanadoo.fr"&gt;catherine.carreorengo@wanadoo.fr&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanking you in advance for any assistance you may be able to provide me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With my best wishes and deepest gratitude,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Dr. Catherine CARRE-ORENGO&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2012-11-02 18:19:46Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>To Whom It May Concern,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Though this letter may come as a surprise to you, please kindly take the time to read it carefully as it deals with a serious matter concerning a potential relative of yours. &lt;br&gt;This is by no means a prank or joke.&lt;br&gt;I am a French psychiatrist specialized in criminology and I am currently writing a book on Eugen Weidmann, the man who assassinated in July 1937 a young American dancer named Jean de Koven.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have already found a few specific pieces of information thanks to police archives that I have been authorized to examine :&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Born in Boston, on the 29th of march 1913, this young woman, lived in France for a few days with her aunt Ida Sackheim, during the famous world fair known as the ."Exposition Universelle." Her aunt was her mother, Fannie Sackheim’s sister. Ida Sackheim worked as a fashion illustrator in New York and lived at 439 West End avenue NY.&lt;br&gt;Her office was located at 63 West 38 street NY, Phone Wisconsin 7-3266.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Jean de Koven had a brother named Henry de Koven born in 1908 who was 29 at the time and lived with his parents and his sister in New York at 10 Ocean Park Way in Brooklyn with his parents (Abraham de Koven and Fannie Sackeim). He was perheaps the Director of Radiocoin company located at 247 Park avenue,NY (i'm not sure of this last information). &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;I would like to get in touch with her descendants to ask them a few questions for my book. I am especially interested in finding out more about this young lady's family. &lt;br&gt;Unaware of whether or not Henry de Koven had any descendants and despite the slightly different spelling of your last name, I have taken the liberty of contacting you  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Feel free to contact me by email at &lt;a href="mailto://catherine.carreorengo@wanadoo.fr"&gt;catherine.carreorengo@wanadoo.fr&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanking you in advance for any assistance you may be able to provide me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With my best wishes and deepest gratitude,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Dr. Catherine CARRE-ORENGO&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2012-11-02 18:05:05Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Family history/Bernard Koven of Chicago</title>
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      <description>FYI  My name is Bernard Koven.  My father, who was born in Russia (Ukraine) emigrated to the United States prior to WWII.  His actual name was Kowenski;but it was changed to Koven upon his arrival to Ellis Island.</description>
      <pubDate>2012-04-24 04:33:55Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven's in Australia</title>
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      <description>Dearest Jacqui,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Happy holidays to you and your family.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thankyou, I shall send an email.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kindest regards,&lt;br&gt;Bernadette&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2011-12-27 16:15:52Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven's in Australia</title>
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      <description>Hi Bernadette, Great Aunt, makes me feel very old.  I am 59 so just a bit older than your mum.  My email address is &lt;a href="mailto://jacquibarney@hotmail.co.uk"&gt;jacquibarney@hotmail.co.uk&lt;/a&gt;. Please feel free to email me and we can exchange some family info.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have a great Xmas.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jacqui  x</description>
      <pubDate>2011-12-24 10:29:31Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven's in Australia</title>
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      <description>Dearest Great Aunt,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Vera Koven is my grandmother.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My birth name is Bernadette Koven, daughter to Jaqueline Koven.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All the best Xx</description>
      <pubDate>2011-12-24 03:39:14Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven's in Australia</title>
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      <description>Vera June Koven is my mother, so that makes you my aunty!  You must have met me along with my siblings before we left England.  We were supposed to go to Melbourne but had to disembark at Fremantle which is the port at Perth.  I believe that was due to my medical situation at the time.  We never made it to Melbourne. You can email me at &lt;a href="mailto://blundec@bigpond.net.au"&gt;blundec@bigpond.net.au&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2011-10-22 06:11:26Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Koven's in Australia</title>
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      <description>My half sister Vera June Koven (known as June) left london with her husband Leonard Koven in 1960 initially sailing to Melbourne but I believe settling in Perth.  </description>
      <pubDate>2011-05-23 13:27:51Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven Family</title>
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      <description>Simon and Esther were Uncle and Aunt to my mother, Rita Wallensky. When my father (William) went to war in 1939, they took her and my brother in. I met Great Aunt Esther once when my brother got maried in 1967 but I was only 11 then. I do have pictures of them. The original writer, David is my cousin. His Dad and my Mom were siblings. Looks like we are all related.</description>
      <pubDate>2011-03-22 17:02:44Z</pubDate>
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      <title>2nd Lt. Willie W. Koven of Layland, WV 1944</title>
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      <description>Willie is pictured in the 44-A Solo, group annual from the 44-A class of cadet pilots in flight training at the Pacific Air School, Gibbs Field in Fort Stockton, Texas. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the family.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2011-02-01 06:14:30Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Lori,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Send an email to me at &lt;a href="mailto://gkoven@yahoo.com"&gt;gkoven@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;, and it's yours!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gary</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-19 21:28:12Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>I would love to see your family tree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lori</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-19 21:21:27Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Lori,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most likely this is a different branch of the Koven family than mine.  My grandfather Jacob Morris Koven was born in Russia in 1881.  However, one of his brothers, Julius Lewis Koven, was born in Russia in 1865 and his son, Bernard W. Koven, was born in Chicago in 1898.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you would like to see my tree, feel free to email me (gkoven-at-yahoo-dot-com).  Good luck!</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-17 15:47:14Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>HI Donna,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your quick reply.  Actually, I just started doing my family tree yesterday and you are the first person to contact me.  Any help is appreciated.  it's really hard to validate what you find, isn't it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-16 21:52:28Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Dear Lori,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The names in your post definitely look familiar to me from when I was doing my search. I was lucky enough to find my "Kowensky" family in British Columbia, and even got to meet them. An individual named Roger Fleishman on ancestry.com was experienced and an enormous help. He was also searching for Koven relatives. I'm wondering if you could be related to him. I will need to go through my piles of notes and see if I kept his email address. I am assuming you have already contacted Gary Koven who is also on this post. My email address is &lt;a href="mailto://donna@aflairforwriting.com"&gt;donna@aflairforwriting.com&lt;/a&gt; if you want to correspond directly.</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-16 14:40:53Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>I'm looking for Jacob Koven, born in 1866 Russia who raised 5 children in Chicago: Mary, Sarah, Joseph, Dora and maybe Rosie.  I think his wife is Katie but it's hard to read this handwriting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dora Koven (Jacob's daughter) is my great great grandmother.  She married Max Nafshun.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any help is much appreciated.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lori</description>
      <pubDate>2010-01-16 09:20:56Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven/deKoven</title>
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      <description>My great grandfather, Kovensky, settled in Manitoba, where he is buried in Winnipeg at the Hebrew Sik (sp?)cemetary.  All his sons changed their surnames to DeKoven or De Koven, and my grandfather shortened his to Koven.  My cousin (dad's first cousin in Toronto) believes Koven comes from the Kovno ghetto?  Other members of the family think Kovensky may have origionally been De Koven before they migrated to Russia.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-20 21:29:37Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven Family</title>
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      <description>My family had a Koven who settled in British Columbia, originally from Lithuania. I'm trying to find relatives, but have little to go by. Here's what I've come up with:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am searching for relatives of my ancestors, Moses Kovensky and Philip Robert Koven. Philip was my grandfather and Moses (or Morris) was my great-grandfather. Moses never came to this country. According to my research, Philip arrived in 1906 from Lithuania via Southampton, England at age 21. He married my grandmother, Sadie somewhere after that. In 1920, my mother, Lillian Koven was born, followed by Estelle, Alan, and Robert.&lt;br&gt;While Sadie was pregnant with Robert, Philip – a traveling cotton salesman, was killed. I have the date as November 18, 1924. I was told the accident occurred in New Hampshire during bad weather. Sadly, he skidded on icy roads, and the car jackknifed into a river, where he drowned.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Philip had at least one brother and a sister. A brother (name unknown, possibly Louis) settled in Alberta, Canada, arriving sometime after Philip. He and his family visited my mother’s family during the 1920’s, probably the later 20’s, while she was in high school. He had 2 daughters, Olive and Nora. If either one married, there could be descendants that are part of my family. There was also an uncle (name unknown) who was a fur trapper and had settled in British Columbia. I have researched Koven records containing info from Winnepeg, Manitoba and Quebec, but am uncertain if they were relatives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that my ancestors came over from Vilna, Lithuania. We are all of Jewish descent. I am 52 and was born in 1955. My brother is 2 years older. If there is a possibility that we are related, or if you know of any of my relatives, please contact me. My e-mail is &lt;a href="mailto://donna@aflairforwriting.com"&gt;donna@aflairforwriting.com&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-11-02 23:49:00Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Searching for relatives of my grandfather, Philip Koven from Russia, born about 1885 and came to NY in 1906. Had a brother, I. Koven, and possibly others, Abraham and Louis, plus a sister. There are cousins in the US or Canada. If any connection, pleasee-mail &lt;a href="mailto://donna@aflairforwriting.com"&gt;donna@aflairforwriting.com&lt;/a&gt;. Thanks</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-28 23:57:28Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven (corrections)</title>
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      <description>Corrections to the above:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ken is the son of Henry and the grandson of Abraham, not the son of Abraham.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am the son of Mark and the grandson of Jacob Morris, not the son of Jacob Morris.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gary</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-16 16:38:25Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Hey Donna,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was born in New York City in 1953.  I'm 54 years old.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My cousin Ken De Koven (son of Abraham) and I (son of Jacob Morris) are the oldest in the family.  My brother in Israel is fluent in Hebrew and should be able to translate the writing on the back of your photo.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a few photos of my grandfather, my grandmother, my great-grandfather and my great-grandmother.  On my father's birth certificate, my grandfather's occupation is listed as "salesman".&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'd like you to take a look at my family tree as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We should probably go off line to exchange this information, but when I tried to get your email address the way I used to by clicking on your screen name, I found that this site has changed and evidently they want me to pay before I can view your email address.  I won't do that, so please email me...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gary (gkoven-at-yahoo-dot-com)</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-16 16:36:23Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Hi Gary,&lt;br&gt;Where are you from? How old are you? We're probably around the same age range. My grandfather's parents stayed in Lithuania and wrote to my grandmother until the time of the Holocaust. Then communication stopped. If any descendants survived, there is the possibility of a relation. My great-grandfather was Moses, although one relative recalled it as Morris. If he had siblings whose children made it over here, that would be the link. Unfortunately, that's where the trail ends on this side. There's no one alive to get more info. Some other pertinent info I have is that my grandfather, Philip, had a college degree - pretty unusual in those days. He was a cotton salesman. I have a photo in good condition of his father, Moses, and his wife and 2 adult children. There's Hebrew writing on the back. Is there anyone elderly who is alive in your family to run this by? Thanks. Donna </description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-16 14:08:32Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Entirely possible ... I've filled out my Koven tree quite a bit in the past 4 years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My father was Mark Seymour Koven born in Boston, 1923-2006.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My grandfather was Jacob Morris Koven born in Lithuania, settled in Boston, 1868-1933.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My great-uncle was Abraham Koven born in Lithuania, settled in New York, 1881-1947.  His son Henry De Koven, 1908-1993.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another great-uncle was Julius Louis Koven born in Lithuania, settled in Chicago, 1855-1935.  His son Bernard was born in Chicago, 1898-1987.  I reported on "Julius Lewis" back in 2003 in this forum and asserted that "Lewis" may have been the true family name but I have now ascertained that Julius simply dropped the surname.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My brother, who lives in Israel, asserts that Nissan Koven is the name of my great-grandfather, the father of Julius Lewis, Jacob Morris, and Abraham.  My mother says there may have been more brothers in Lithuania, likely dispersed to avoid conscription by the Cossacks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-16 02:46:14Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Information about the history of the "Koven" name</title>
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      <description>My ancestors came from Russia and it was originally Kovensky.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-14 00:47:34Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven/deKoven/Lewis (from Hinda)</title>
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      <description>I wonder if there is any distant relation to my grandfather, Philip Koven (Kovensky), who emigrated from Lithuania at the turn of the century, settling in Boston, MA. He had relatives who settled in Canada and one was a fur trapper, not sure where. I have lots more info if you think there's a connection. Philip had a brother who had two daughters, Olive and Nora. That's where the trail ends.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-14 00:41:40Z</pubDate>
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      <description>I'm searching for relatives of my grandfather, Philip Koven, from Lithuania. Settled in Boston at turn of century with relatives in Canada also.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-14 00:30:43Z</pubDate>
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      <description>My grandfather was Philip Koven from Lithuania who settled in Boston, MA at the turn of the century. He had a brother. Some family settled in Alberta, Canada. Any connection possible?</description>
      <pubDate>2007-10-14 00:22:03Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Decovin in Brunswick, Maine</title>
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      <description>Family tradition says my John Decovin (b. 1808, d. 1882) was a Dutch bondboy or ship carpenter who jumped ship somewhere in Maine.  His daughter's death certificate states he was born in Bethel, Maine (but who knows if her son really knew).  Have been unable to find any ancestors, John just suddenly shows up in the 1870 Brunswick, Maine census.  He married Mary Jane Stevens (b. 1806, d.1881).  Their children: &lt;br&gt;     Samuel, b. 1839, d. 1839.&lt;br&gt;     John H., b. 1841, m. Hattie Frances Holbrook?&lt;br&gt;                               m2? Marietta (Maloon) Tarr.&lt;br&gt;     Farnham, b. 1842.&lt;br&gt;     Joseph S., b. 1844, d. 1928, m. Maria C. Dustin.&lt;br&gt;     Georgie Ann, b. 1845, d. 1929, m. William Curtis Berry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Decovin name, spelled this way, is very rare so suspect it may be a variation of DeKoven? especially since family tradition seems to match some of what I've seen on this message board.  Any ideas would be appreciated.  Would like to hear from any descendents, also.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-05-29 00:41:21Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven Family</title>
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      <description>I am related to your wife. Please reply.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-05-01 14:01:01Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: my family is reported to have come from Jasi, Romania/ near Moldavia to western Canada c .1906 if you have any information on family from this area please share it with me.</title>
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      <description>My family includes Kovens, De Kovens, and Kovensky.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To the best of my knowledge, Kovensky (Yaakov and Sarah Goldberg) and respective siblings left "Russia", or Ukraine, probably Nicolayev on the Black Sea near Odessa, arriving in Western Canada (Winnipeg, Manitoba) around 1902. Their children later included my father, Maurice, as well as Samuel, Dora, Sylvia, Percy (Peretz), and Sadie.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kovensky was shortened to Koven shortly afterward, and several years later mysteriously became De Koven. De Kovens from the United States passing through Canada have contacted us, and have the same first names inherited from ancestors.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A tenuous theory: De Koven appears to be a bona fide Dutch name. In the 17th century, Amsterdam was the financial centre of the world, and Dutch traders travelled down the Volga and into Russia. Russifying De Koven would have entailed dropping the "De" and adding an "sky" to Koven, to get Kovensky. It could then have morphed back to De Koven in Canada or the U. S. My father did not subscribe to this theory, however.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-05-01 14:01:01Z</pubDate>
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      <description>My family includes Kovens, De Kovens, and Kovensky.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To the best of my knowledge, Kovensky (Yaakov and Sarah Goldberg) and respective siblings left "Russia", or Ukraine, probably Nicolayev on the Black Sea near Odessa, arriving in Western Canada (Winnipeg, Manitoba) around 1902. Their children later included my father, Maurice, as well as Samuel, Dora, Sylvia, Percy (Peretz), and Sadie.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kovensky was shortened to Koven shortly afterward, and several years later mysteriously became De Koven. De Kovens from the United States passing through Canada have contacted us, and have the same first names inherited from ancestors.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A tenuous theory: De Koven appears to be a bona fide Dutch name. In the 17th century, Amsterdam was the financial centre of the world, and Dutch traders travelled down the Volga and into Russia. Russifying De Koven would have entailed dropping the "De" and adding an "sky" to Koven, to get Kovensky. It could then have morphed back to De Koven in Canada or the U. S. My father did not subscribe to this theory, however.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-05-01 14:01:01Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven/De Koven</title>
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      <description>Have you found any connections in response to your message? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My family includes Kovensky, Koven and De Koven members all related and derived from "Russian" immigrants to western Canada about 1901.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-05-01 14:01:01Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Just noted your request (rather belatedly). The time period is about right, but I have not gotten that far. Have you progressed since your posting?</description>
      <pubDate>2006-05-01 14:01:01Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Kovenz name</title>
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      <description>I am a Kovenz on my father's, Matthew Robert Kovenz, side.  My aunts confirm that the family name was Kovencz before immigrating and changed when the reach the US.  Yes, the family is Catholic. My grandparents immigrated from Hungary.  I am in contact with the  Hungarian Kovencz in Budapest.</description>
      <pubDate>2004-02-21 03:55:32Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven/De Koven</title>
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      <description>Am tracing Kovensky (Kovens) from Russia to Baltimore.  Isador Kovensky, born about 1865, had six children who all settled in Baltimore, the last one arriving about 1914.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you know of this family?  A good trail exists once they arrived, but the only history I have is copies of Social Security applications which they ontained in their 40's.  That gives parents names &amp;amp; place of birth (sometime Russia, sometimes Poland) but no towns.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for any assistance you can give me.  Ann</description>
      <pubDate>2003-12-23 15:57:58Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Family history/Bernard Koven of Chicago</title>
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      <description>Pretty close indeed, amazing coincidences on the first names of Bernard and Lillian, but definitely no cigar, as I confirmed with my father tonight.  My father Mark has never heard of your father Arthur, either.  Too bad ... I have very few cousins ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don't know where the Koven name came from.  As I posted to this forum on two separate threads, it's either descended from Baron von Koven the Hessian, or a slip of the pen of an Ellis Island examiner who mis-wrote "Kovno" when my grandfather answered "What is your name" (which was actually Lewis).</description>
      <pubDate>2003-11-09 00:27:17Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Family history/Bernard Koven of Chicago</title>
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      <description>Interestingly, I had an Uncle Bernard (last name Chess) who was a printer.  My mother's name was Lillian Chess who married my dad Arthur Koven who was born and raised on the south side of Chicago (Cicero).  Close, but no cigar.  Do you know anything about where the name Koven came from?</description>
      <pubDate>2003-11-06 16:06:45Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Family history/Bernard Koven of Chicago</title>
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      <description>My father's distant cousin, Bernard W. "Budge" Koven and his wife Lillian lived on the south side of Chicago in the 1960's.  Budge operated a printing company.  I visited them as a teenager and remember a brownstone within walking distance of Lake Shore Drive.  After Lillian died, Budge moved to Miami and bought a motel on South Collins avenue, which he operated for several years before he died in the 1970's.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Budge and Lill said they had a son, Stan, who was a television writer in New York City.  I found an email address for Stan Koven in New York City and have emailed him to see if he is my cousin.</description>
      <pubDate>2003-11-06 05:31:33Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven/deKoven/Lewis (from Hinda)</title>
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      <pubDate>2003-11-06 05:18:16Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Another von Koven theory</title>
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      <description>I am Gary Koven, born in New York City in 1953. My biological family includes only Kovens. My extended family includes Kovens and deKovens.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My father, Mark Seymour Koven, was born in Boston in 1923. My father relates that his parents became family friends with Henry deKoven, who was an actor in Boston. Henry deKoven, now deceased, later extended his career to New York City where his daughter Gloria deKoven Diabo (born approximately 1948) worked for the Rivoli Theater for many years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My father theorizes that Henry may have been a descendant of the Hessian von Kovens in the time of the Revolutionary War who returned to Moldavia and eventually came to Canada.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to research materials my father found in the University of Wisconsin Library in the 1960's, Baron von Koven was the commandant of a small privateer vessel that was headed for the Trenton/Monmouth, New Jersey conflict in 1776.  However, unlike the doctrinaire accounts of the capture of the sleeping Hessians who had already landed, in this account the Baron's boat was waylaid by American privateers while in a dense fog.  With a gun to his head, the Baron was offered two choices:  abandon his vessel and his men to the Americans, and accept exile to a large estate in Virginia abandoned by a wealthy British Loyalist family which had recently returned to England, or be shot on the spot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Baron surrendered, accepted exile, and took up residence for a generation in Virginia.  His children, however, sold the estate and returned to Moldavia in the mid-1800's.  Eventually they migrated to the part of Canada previously documented in other messages in this forum by Linda and Dave.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This would seem to be borne out by an Internet reference:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.motherbedford.com/Propaganda01.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.motherbedford.com/Propaganda01.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The final paragraph of the aborementioned website lends credence to this theory but the author of this website blocks copy and paste; therefore you may wish to surf and peruse.</description>
      <pubDate>2003-11-06 04:51:24Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Koven/deKoven</title>
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      <description>I am Gary Koven, born in New York City in 1953. My biological family includes only Kovens. My extended family includes Kovens and deKovens.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My father, Mark Seymour Koven, was born in Boston in 1923. My father relates that his parents became family friends with Henry deKoven, who was an actor in Boston. Henry deKoven, now deceased, later extended his career to New York City where his daughter Gloria deKoven Diabo (born approximately 1948) worked for the Rivoli Theater for many years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My father theorizes that Henry may have been a descendant of the Hessian von Kovens in the time of the Revolutionary War who returned to Moldavia and eventually came to Canada.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See my post on "von Koven" for my father's von Koven theory, which differs from this one slightly :)</description>
      <pubDate>2003-11-06 04:40:49Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: my family is reported to have come from Jasi, Romania/ near Moldavia to western Canada c .1906 if you have any information on family from this area please share it with me.</title>
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      <description>I am Gary Koven, born in New York City in 1953.  My biological family includes only Kovens.  My extended family includes Kovens and deKovens.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My father, Mark Seymour Koven, was born in Boston in 1923.  My father relates that his parents became family friends with Henry deKoven, who was an actor in Boston.  Henry deKoven, now deceased, later extended his career to New York City where his daughter Gloria deKoven Diabo (born approximately 1948) worked for the Rivoli Theater for many years.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My father theorizes that Henry may have been a descendant of the Hessian von Kovens in the time of the Revolutionary War who returned to Moldavia and eventually came to Canada (see my other thread for the von Koven theory).</description>
      <pubDate>2003-11-06 04:34:20Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Information about the history of the "Koven" name</title>
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      <description>I think it comes from the russian/polish area and was originally "kovenensky" . Love to hear from others.</description>
      <pubDate>2003-03-25 20:50:15Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>Kovensky (Kovens) Baltimore - from Russia - six children of Isadore and Belle, one daughter went to South Africa. Isadore born about 1865; youngest child Kate born about 1897.  Kate came to the U.S. as a teen.  Also Louis, Abraham, Sam, Hershel, and Esther.</description>
      <pubDate>2003-03-24 19:54:36Z</pubDate>
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      <description>my father sanford robert koven was born in NJ in the east orange area his father was david h koven.  my father was born in 1926 and passed away in 1997 he resided in indianapolis area when he passed.  he has a brother eddie kkoven who resided in cherry hill NJ the last i knew.  if anyone has any connections the this koven family i would love to hear from you.</description>
      <pubDate>2003-01-29 04:51:58Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Information about the history of the "Koven" name</title>
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      <description>Also, I am not the same Dave Koven who originally posted the message. I am another Dave Koven (David Scott Koven)living in Los Angeles, CA</description>
      <pubDate>2003-01-22 23:04:32Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Information about the history of the "Koven" name</title>
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      <description>From my understanding, my family name of Koven, or the history, began in Hungary and has been traced to the 1800's. I was born in the USA in 1969. My father "Morton" was born in Canada in 1925, My grandfather "Jack" was born in Hungary in 1899, and my great-grandfather was born in the 1870's and his father also born in Hungary in 1845. My grandfather, Jack, migrated from Europe to Canada in 1919 with his wife Aida (from Hungary). My father, Morton, moved to the United States (from Canada) in 1955, with his current wife Mary. The rest of the generations have been 100% red white and blue. Our family has been able to count, thus far, six generations of Koven's</description>
      <pubDate>2003-01-22 22:59:44Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: History of koven</title>
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      <description>contact me at &lt;a href="mailto://allan@lsp.co.za"&gt;allan@lsp.co.za&lt;/a&gt;,in repley to your message&lt;br&gt;Regards &lt;br&gt;Allan</description>
      <pubDate>2002-11-15 13:27:53Z</pubDate>
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