Ladner - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Ladner''s of Bay St. Louis Kiln, Ms

pennydollahon_1 — 2009-09-26 20:29:30Z

I am not at home right now where I have my old photos stored to Picassa but I would be happy to share any I have with you. I have not posted them to my tree because I don't know how to lift them from Picassa to do that! So if you give me your email address I can send them to you. I hope they are photos you will feel connect to your line!

I am pennydollahon@yahoo.com

Ladners definately weave in and out of my family tree through my grandmother, Lelia Lepre (Taylor). The family seems to have settled in and around Biloxi for generations.

All best to you!

Penny

Re: Ladner''s of Bay St. Louis Kiln, Ms

thelmacook42 — 2009-09-23 03:09:02Z

My grandfaather was Ceville (Emma Garriga). My mother was Wilma Ladner. I would love to connect with you on some of your information. I am just getting started on this and very new at it and very interested in it.
Thanks
Thelma

Re: Robert Ladner

SusanPMartin — 2009-05-28 21:10:48Z

I am interested an any information on Ann (or Anna) Ladner
who was born in 1730 in Piscataway, N.J. and who married Peter Martin. It is possible that Robert Ladner or Absalom Ladner was her father.

Re: ladners

firetiger1971 — 2009-04-27 03:37:47Z

i dont know if we are related but my ancstory has names in like yous im suzanna lynn ladner and im the daughter of phil and judy ladner we live in grand prairie tx if you want to text me ill reply hope you are happy and healthy

Re: LADNER/PENDER of Cornwall

bjbambi1977 — 2009-02-18 05:06:36Z

Hello,

So good to see other family trying to research our family tree,

My 7 x great grandparents were alice ( Ladner )
who md Martine waters,

i have her father listed as John,
but thats it,

and so far after reading yours and other messages i cannott fit the right people into the right spots,

Hoping we can share info,

From Bindi Johns
( bjbambi1977@hotmail.com )

Re: LADNER/PENDER of Cornwall

bjbambi1977 — 2009-02-18 05:05:19Z

Re: LADNER/LADNIER Family

foreverhulkamania — 2008-12-30 17:00:54Z

could you send me any more info on edmond ladnier or his wife estelle?

LADNER Rose Marie 1929-1998

t42Moore — 2008-12-05 19:14:53Z

LADNER Rose Marie 1929-1998

I photographed this gravestone in the Moore Cemetery, Arlington,Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records.

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LADNER Pat Harrison 1916-2000

t42Moore — 2008-12-05 19:14:36Z

LADNER Pat Harrison 1916-2000

I photographed this gravestone in the Moore Cemetery, Arlington,Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records.

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Pat Harrison LADNER 1916-2000

t42Moore — 2008-11-25 21:43:46Z

LADNER Pat Harrison 1916-2000

I photographed this gravestone in the Moore Cemetery, Arlington,Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records.

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Re: Ladner''s of Bay St. Louis Kiln, Ms

Milyla87 — 2008-11-13 00:24:45Z

Hi, I just read your post, my husband comes from Moise Edgar Ladner. I have a good bit on the children of Marie Eleanore Richard and Antoine Ladner.

Let me know what you need.

I don't have a daughter named Maria Elenore Ladner for Antoine and Marie Eleanore though. I do have the same names as you showed for their children.

Re: Ladner''s of Bay St. Louis Kiln, Ms

miscity — 2008-11-11 20:21:01Z

I COULD BE WRONG. SOUNDS LIKE MARIA ELENORE LADNER COULD BE THE DAUGHTER OF MARIE ELEANORE RICHA4RD AND ANTIONE LADNER.
I DO THINK I AM CORRECT:MARIE ELENOR RICHARD AND ANTIONNE LADNER MARRIED, HARRISON H.C.

HER MOTHER WAS MARIE ELEANORE RICHARD AND FATHER WAS NARCISSE RICHARD. THEY HAD ABOUT 21 OR 22 OF THESE CHILDREN. MY RECORDS SHOW THAT CELINA WAS BORN IN 1867 AND MAY BE LAST CHILD THEY HAD.

HER SIBLINGS:
CHRISTOPHE 1846
MARIE ZELINE 1848
ROMAIN 1852
ARMAND 1854
BASILE 1855
FELECITE 1858
LUCIEN 1850
MOISE EDGAR 1862
ARMANTINE 1865
CELINA 1867

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS THE FAMILY YOU ARE LOOKING FAR. I WOULD LOVE THE UPDATE ON WHO THESE CHILDREN MARRIED AND THE CHILDREN THEY HAD. I HAVE ALOT OF INFO TO SHARE.

Alphonse Ladner

shannontoledo — 2002-08-19 01:23:03Z

I am looking for information on Alphonse Ladner (DOB 9-27-1897 from Harrison County, MS) he was my Great Grandfather his son Alsay Ladner was my Grandfather, I'd especially like to know his DOD. Thanks

info on Delores Fronte or Delores Lami

DeLanaDelcambre — 2002-07-09 17:28:26Z

Does anyone have info on Delories Lami or Delores Fronte (Fruit) married to Jean Baptiste Ladner II?

Re: info on Delores Fronte or Delores Lami

mehamel — 2008-05-05 18:12:48Z

I have Deloris Lamey d/O Jean Baptiste Lamie & Isabel Baudin
Lamie married 10/20/1828 in Mobile County, AL to Jean Baptiste Ladner, Jr. b.10/6/1807. They had 11 children: Lucie, Carmelite, Jean Alexander, Hypolyte Marcellete, William "Billy", Celestine(female), Edmar"Edmond", Cecilia, Ellen, Josephine, Dennis.

Re: Alphonse Ladner

mehamel — 2008-05-05 17:58:26Z

going by your DOB, Alphonse H. Ladner S/O Hermogene "Armogene" Ladner and Marie Laura Cuevas died 4/14/1965.

Re: LADNER/PENDER of Cornwall

cynthiamoore1201 — 2008-04-25 13:24:14Z

Thank you- sounds like it could be a gg grand-mother of my Henry Thomas- all of Cornwall.

Re: LADNER/PENDER of Cornwall

ssearston — 2008-04-25 04:17:14Z

Hi
I only have one Elisabeth CURNOW in my files, born in 1738. I don't have a husband or children, but her parents were John CURNOW and Sarah WEYMOUTH.

Re: Ladner/Bowden of Parsons Pa.

TheresaHarter417 — 2008-03-31 06:39:39Z

It's been a few years since you posted this.

Are you still active in this community? I may have some answer to your question on why some of the Bowden's moved here.
James Bowden and Mary Ann were my GGGrandparents. Their daughter Martha married Penry Woodford in 1893. He was from Wales and many of the Woodfords migrated to Alabama as coal miners. I presume at some point, after Mary Ann died, he moved to Alabama also.

This is just guessing at this point, but James married Elisabeth after Mary Ann's death. I have not detemined whether she is from Pennsylvania or Alabama.

Theresa

Re: Ladner family

MaryLorraineCox — 2007-05-27 14:03:52Z

There are French Ladners that moved to the Mississippie area, My German Ladner family members can be found in Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, and other parts of Canada; Vermont, Massachusettes, Delaware, New York, and probably other areas of the USA.

The easiest way to back track information may be to search the death record of the most recent family member who has died. You can search the social security death index (not sure of the name) and get birthdates and places of birth, work backwards child to parent and try not to skip any generations. By doing this, it will be easier to find the line you came from and I am sure with the history already done on the Ladners that you will likely find a completed line that goes back to the early 1800s at least. It may take three to four generations back to connect it.

Re: Ladner from Germany to PA

MaryLorraineCox — 2007-05-27 12:56:29Z

You might want to see if your Ladner connects to John "Andrew" Ladner from Germany who after serving as a loyalist in the revolutionary war moved to what is now Prince Edward Island Canada. There is a gook "Island Herritage" with much information about this. Some of these Ladner connections moved to Vermont and New York.

Re: Ladner/Morin marriage

Milyla87 — 2008-04-06 02:49:23Z

What you have just posted is the same as what I have.

And you are right about cousins marrying cousins all over the place. My husband is my 6th cousin, ha. No that 6th really counts. His mother was also a Ladner as was her mother and my mother as well. We share some of the same second cousins though on account of his great Uncle marrying my Great Aunt.

Michelle

Re: Ladner/Morin marriage

Milyla87 — 2008-04-06 02:24:39Z

Penny,
Celestine's sister Adele married Jean Morin (Moran),he was the brother of Edouard Morin(Moran).
Celestine's brothers also married sisters from the same family.
Her brother Julien Ladner married Celestine Ladner dau of Gilbert Ladner. Another brother Louis Vital Ladner married Louise Ladner also dau of Gilbert Ladner.

Re: Jean Baptiste Ladner, Luis Christian Ladner, Miss.

Milyla87 — 2008-04-06 02:07:23Z

I am guessing you have been to my site on tribal pages? :)
I would love to have a copy of the picture. You can email me at milyla87@bellsouth.net
Be sure to write those songs you have down now before you forget. I too had songs from my grandmother and it is a great legacy to pass these down.
Good Luck in your genealogy venture. You will find that we researchers are a close knit bunch and are always willing to share or lend a hand, or in this case a name or a search for a name. :)

Re: Jean Baptiste Ladner, Luis Christian Ladner, Miss.

Milyla87 — 2008-04-06 00:49:24Z

Are you asking if Julien was born in Switzerland? I have him as being born in Hancock County, Ms on Feb 15,1800. His father Jean Baptiste as being born in Bay St, Louis, Hancock County April 16 1767, and his father Jean Baptiste being born in Ms around 1724, now J.B.1's father Christian Ladner was the one born in Switzerland. Most of this information is according to Nap Cassibry's book The Ladner Odyssey. As to why Christian would be from Switzerland as opposed to France, well, the countries are neighbors, and many times families crossed borders for various reasons. Randall Ladnier is working on the Swiss connection and we are all waiting patiently on the outcome.
Hope this helps.

Re: LADNER/PENDER of Cornwall

cynthiamoore1201 — 2008-04-24 15:01:58Z

Hello I noticed you mentioned Curnow in a post. I have an Elizabeth
Curnow who married James Thomas and had a child Henry Thomas in 1816 in
Ludgvan. That is all I have on them. But I also haveRobert Curnow born
1872 in USA married to Sedwell James (my 1st cousin 3 times removed) .
are any or all of these people related?
Thank you

Re: Ladner/Bowden of Parsons Pa.

jvmarco — 2008-03-31 14:14:39Z

Minnie Bowden, daughter of James and second wife Elizabeth, was born July 1887 in Pennsylvannia, so we can assume that Elizabeth was from Pa. They appeared to have relocated to Alabama circa 1889.

Any info you ever come up with regarding my GGrandmother Susan Bowden would be greatly appreciated.

Thus far:

1. Richard Bowden 1801-1871? [Great-Great-GreatGF]
b. England, d. Parsons, (Wilkes-Barre) Luzerne Co. Pa.
1. Mary Ann 'Bowden' [GGGreatGM]
b. England, d. ?

2. James Bowden 1834-1915 [Great-Greatgrandfather]
b. Yorkshire, England, d. Patton, Ala
2. Mary A 'Bowden' 1836-1881 [GGreatgrandmother]
b. England, d. Parsons (Wilkes-Barre), Pa,

3. Susan Bowden 1873-1905? [Greatgrandmother]
b. Luzerne Co, (Wilkes-Barre) Pa, d. ?
3. Owen O'Hare 1866 - 1939 [Greatgrandfather]
b. County Down, Ire., d. Birmingham, Alabama

4. (John O'Hare) AKA Wesley F Goodwin 1896-1974 [Grandfather]
b. Alabama, d. Philadelphia
4. Kathryn Coll 1897-1987 [Grandmother]
b. Wilkes-Barre, Pa. d. Delran NJ

1870 Census in Plains Twp, Luzerne County:
James Bowden (head) b.1835 England
Mary Bowden (wife) b.1836 England
(a) Richard Bowden (son) b. 1862 England
(b) Anna Bowden (Daughter) b.1864 England
Richard Bowden, (father) b. 1801 England Retired Engineer

1880 Census, Parsons, Luzerne County, Pa (Now that part of Wilkes-Barre north of hwy 309)
(2) James Bowden b. 1834 England occupation/miner
(2) Mary A Bowden wife b. 1836 England
(a) Richard Bowden son b. 1862 England
(b) Annie Bowden daughter b. 1864 England
(c) John Bowden son b. 1870 Pennsylvania
(3d) Susan Bowden daughter b. 1873 Pennsylvannia (Greatgrandmother)
(e) Martha Bowden daughter b.1875 Pennsylvannia
(f) Elizabeth Bowden daughter b.1877 Pennsylvannia (aunt Dollie)
(g) William Bowden son, b. 1879 Pennsylvannia

[Mary A Bowden died in 1881,... James remarried Elisabeth Cooper in Luzerne County? and apparently, birthed Minnie in 1888 at 48 yrs old? Was Elisabeth the younger sister of Mary?]

Note e: Martha Bowden married Penry Woodford in 1893. Woodford was from Wales and many of the Woodfords migrated to Alabama as coal miners.

No. 4903 Wilkes-Barre, Pa., March 29, 1881,...The Superintendent of the Public Cemetery, will prepare a grave for the burial of the body of Richard Bowden in lot 664, adj 660 funeral 3 o'clock PM March 31, 1881,...Permit fees $4.50 paid by Thomas Ladner,...S.O. Jones, City Clerk

No. 4983 Wilkes-Barre, Pa., July 11, 1881,...The Superintendent of the Public Cemetery, will prepare a grave for the burial of the body of Mary Ann Bowden aged 45 years, in lot 664 adj 660 funeral 4 o'clock PM July 12, 1881,...Permit fees $4.50 paid by Thomas Ladner,...S.O. Jones, City Clerk

Who was Thomas Ladner? b. in Oxford, Cornwall, Eng., married Lydia Davey 1885 in Wilkes-Barre, Pa.
Why did Thomas Bennett Ladner & James Bowden relocate to Ala., first to Dora, Al?, from Parsons, Pa. circa 1888?
In 1900 Census, beat 22, Jefferson County, Alabama
Thomas Ladner head 1855 b. England arrived US 1869 Farmer
Stattie (DeMent) Ladner wife 1875 b. Alabama married at 24 (1899) had 2 children
Emma J Ladner daughter 1886 b. Pennsylvania parents Eng.
Annie Ladner daughter 1888 b Alabama parents Eng.
Thomas H Ladner son 1889 b. Alabama parents Eng.
William B Ladner son 1890 b. Alabama parents Eng.
Almeda DeMent step-daughter 1898 b. Alabama parents Ohio/Ala.
Clara daughter 1900 b. Alabama parents Eng./Ala.
James H Ladner brother 1859 b. England Arrived US 1869 coalminer (married Sybil Miller 1879 in Parsons, Pa.)
(Note: Thomas and James parents: Thomas Ladner/Jane Bennetts, of Oxford, Cornwall, Eng., married Jan 1847)

James Bowden's daughter, Elizabeth Bowden married Thomas Watson on July 4, 1896 at "my residence" by Rev. Harris in Walker County Ala. State of Alabama, Walker County Probate Court pg.469.

In the 1900 US census, a residence in Corona (Walker County) Alabama:
James Bowden b. Feb 1834 occupation/miner England arrived 1865
Elisabeth Bowden wife, b. Aug 1839 England arrived 1854
(h) Minnie Bowden daughter, b. July 1887 Pennsylvannia
(g) William Bowden boarder b. Nov 1879 occupation/miner Pennsylvannia
Pearly A Bowden wife, b. May 1881 Alabama (Pearly Ann Nelson) (Will & Pearly married December 17, 1899; buried at Ashbank Cem. in Winston Co Alabama,...near Nauvoo, Walker Co.)

In the 1900 census in Corona, Alabama
Thomas Watson b.May 1865 Canada,...(died 1941)
(f) Elisabeth (Bowden) Watson wife b.Jan 1877 Pennsylvannia, (d. July 1960) Forrest Hill Cem in Birmingham
James Watson son b.Oct 1896 Alabama (Wesley Goodwin's First Cousin)
Minnie Watson daughter b.Jan 1900

Jasper Mountain Eagle, February 1, 1905 shows that Col Milton Hanby 76 died at his home in Corona, leaves four sons, Adolphus, Charles, William and Jessie. Col Hanby was a gallant confederate soldier who was wounded twice in the war. Interred at Woodlawn cemetery.

In the 1910 US census, a residence in Corona (Walker County) Alabama listed:
Charles B Hanby b.1874 Alabama
(h) Minnie (Bowden) Hanby wife b.1887 Pennsylvania (Susan's Half-sister)
Willie Hanby son b.1908 Alabama
Milton Hanby son b.1909 Alabama
Elizabeth Bowden, mother b.1839 England

Minnie (Bowden) Hanby, wife of Charles Hanby, was said to travel yearly to Wilkes-Barre to visit relatives, probably the family's of Anne, John and Martha Bowden, the older children of James and Mary Bowden, or to the Coopers? Beverly McClure daughter of Edith Hanby said records show that her grandmother, Minnie Selina Bowden Hanby was born 2 July 1888 and was buried at Forest Hill Cemetery in Birmingham, Al. 1970.

1910 US census, a residence in Corona (Walker County) Alabama listed:
(g) Will Bowden b. 1879 Pennsylvannia (John O'Hare/ AKA Wesley Goodwin's uncle)
Pearlie Bowden wife b.1881 Alabama
Herman Bowden son b.1901 Alabama
Allia Mae Bowden daughter b.1907 Alabama
Fred Bowden son b. 1908 Alabama
James Bowden father b.1834 England

Death Certificate:
Elizabeth Bowden, 2nd spouse of James Bowden
b. (Yorkshire) England, Died May 13, 1912 Patton, Alabama of pneumonia
Father, Fenwick Cooper, b. England
Mother, Jane Cooper, b. England
Interment, Patton Hill Cemetery (1 Mile East of Corona, Alabama)

Death Certificate:
James Bowden, b. 1834, d.March 14, 1915 Patton, Alabama
Cause of death: pneumonia
Father, Richard Bowden, b. England
Mother, Mary Ann Bowden, b. England
Interred at Patton Hill Cemetery

In the 1910 census in Corona, Alabama
Thomas Watson b. May 1865 Canada
(f) Lizzie (Elisabeth Bowden)Watson wife b.1877 Pennsylvania
James Watson son b. 1896 Corona
(no Minnie?)
Lizzie Watson daughter b. 1903 Corona
Anna Mae Watson daughter b. 1906 Corona
Barta? Watson daughter b. 1908 Corona

In the 1920 Census in Coal Valley, Walker County Alabama:
Thomas Watson 62 yrs old b. Canada, Father b. Ire, Mother b. Ire.
(f) Elizabeth Watson 43 yrs old (John O'Hare/ AKA Wesley Goodwin's aunt Dollie)
James Watson 23 yrs old
Elizabeth Watson 17 yrs old
Anna May Watson 14 yrs old
Lucile Watson 9 yrs old

1930 Census, Cordova, Walker Co
Thomas Watson head 73 b. Ontario proprietor-restaurant
(f) Elisabeth Watson wife 53 b. Pa
Lucile Watson daughter 19 b. Alabama ticket seller-theater

Anna Mae Watson married Samuel B Bolling, they birthed Hugh Bolling who married Bettye J Lockhart, they birthed Samuel B Bolling II currently of Mobile Alabama. James Watson (d. Mansfield, Louisiana) had 11 children of which is Bill Watson currently of Houston Tx.

1930 Census in Cordova, Alabama
Sam B Bolling 35
Anna M Bolling 24
Hugh W Bolling 4
Mary Bolling 2

1930 Census, Walker County, precinct 34
(g) William Boden head 50 b. Pa
Pearly wife 49 b. Alabama
Fred son 21 b. Alabama
William son 15 b. Alabama

SSDI: Fred Bowden SS #418-01-5761
b. Aug 11, 1908 d. May 1977
last address: Bessemer, Jefferson Co., Alabama

In Pennsylvania:
(3) Susan Bowden's siblings: Richard 1862-1901, Anne 1864-, John 1870- and Martha 1875-, remained in Pa.

1900 Census, Plains Twp, Luzerne County
Peter Ashelman head 70 b. Pennsyl.
(a) Richard Boden son-in-law 39 b. England
Ida Boden daughter 34 b. Pennsyl.
Martha Boden granddaughter 6 b. Pennsyl

Richard Bowden 39 of Hudson was interred at Hollenbeck cemetery (lot 1266) in Wilkes-Barre on June 22,1901.
Born in England, he died June 20, 1901 in Plains, Pa. of asthma.
His wife, Ida 'Ashelman' Bowden, b. Oct 13, 1865 d. May 2, 1949 and daughter, Martha Bowden, b. March 1894 d. January 25, 1901 in Plains Twp, are also interred there. Hudson is in Plains Twp, now part of Wilkes-Barre.

Wilkes-Barre Record, Monday June 24, 1901
The funeral of Richard Bowden of Plains, who died on thursday, took place on saturday from the home of his father-in-law Peter Ashelman. Many floral tributes surrounded the casket. The M.E. choir rendered several selections under the direction of Prof. Wall and the following acted as pall bearers: EA Egge (b.June 1859/1900 census), JR Brownbridge (b.Oct 1857/1900 census), CA Covert, RM Jones, TB Fuller, HL Flaherty(sister-in-law Mary was married to John Flaherty) . Interment was in Hollenbeck Cemetery.

1920 Census in Plains twp, Luzerne Co
Peter Ashelman head 89
Ida Bowden daughter 54
George W Powell boarder 49

Peter Ashelman was born in Wilkes-Barre April 22, 1830, the son of Christian and Elizabeth Ashelman of Switzerland. Was married to Elizabeth Lewis of English descent. They had 10 children. Ida R., wife of Richard Bowden, and Eve M. were twins.

Re: Jean Baptiste Ladner, Luis Christian Ladner, Miss.

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-04-06 01:26:40Z

Many thanks to you! What a marvelous work you have done!
My mother told me about the "lagniappe" tradition - she was born in New Orleans in 1915. (I was born and raised in Houston)

I have a photo of Celina Morin/Moran I can send (email) to you or to any address you suggest. Thought you'd like to have it. She was my great grandmother.

I have Lepre family old photos but they aren't on your family list...also a mystery photo or two someone might be able to identify.

All best!

Penny

Re: Ladner/Morin marriage

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-04-06 03:05:49Z

Oh! I thought you thought that Celestine Ladner married Julien Ladner but he was her father...

Anyway, it's all pretty confusing when there were these same families inter-marrying so much. But I think that was common when areas were sparsely populated and even Roosevelt married Eleanor - his first cousin, I think!

My late mother mentioned these family names(on her mother's side) ; Ladner, Moran, Fountain, Lepre, Saucier, Fayard...I don't recall Cuevas, but I don't think she knew anything that far back. And I suppose you have read my posts that she mentioned Choctaws and an 1857 half dime given her mother by an "Indian grandmother"? I have that coin and it is pierced (I think so that it could be worn on a string). Even so my mother seemed to be in doubt as to whether the Indian connection was true or just a fanciful family tale. So I didn't really believe it, either! Now I do! I think that's pretty exciting!

Penny

I am sort of clumsey at doing research - I tend to stuble on things and then get busy with life (grandchildren!) and stop for a while, then go back. Your information is like gold to me! Wonderful!

Re: Ladner/Morin marriage

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-04-06 02:35:48Z

Hi again!

I have that Celestine Ladner (my gg grandmother) was the daughter of Julien Ladner and Elena Helene Cuevas. Julien was born in 1800 and Celestine wasn't born until 1825. Celestine married Edouard Morin....

I have gathered most of my info. online...but I've seen it duplicated so I have thought that it wwas correct. I do know, however, that cousins married cousins all over the place!!

Penny

Morin/Moran

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-22 02:27:12Z

Greetings!

My Moran connections go through my G grandmother, Celina Moran - her father. Edouard Moran, his father Pierre Pedro Moran? That's as far as I can go.

I am frankly confused by this "Pierre Pedro" thing and also mixed info. regarding if my ancestors were Italian or French or even Spanish? My grandmother Lelia Agnes Lepre Taylor spoke French to my mother when she didn't want me to know what she was saying! Lovely sweet lady - she died when I was nine. I have a photo of her mother Celian Moran if you are interestd in that line or know of anyone who is.

All best ~

Penny

Re: MORIN/MORAN FAMILY

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-22 02:19:26Z

Hello!

I am related to Ladners and Morins, too. My GG grandfather was Edouard Morin and his wife was Celestine Ladner! Are we connected then?

All best ~

Penny

Jean Baptiste Ladner, Luis Christian Ladner, Miss.

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-22 02:14:02Z

Searching for info. regarding my GG grandmother's line. She was Celestine Ladner, whose father was Julien L., then Jean Baptise L. (jr.), his father also Jean Baptiste L., his father apparently Luis Christian Ladner. Basing most of this on info on this website but the dates and ages and location (Miss.) seem to fit. Mystified as to how it is that Julian was born in Switzerland as I expected France would be his birthplace!

Any guidance or corrections would be appreciated!

Penny

Re: LOOKING FOR ONFORMATION ON LADNER/LADNIER

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-22 01:41:05Z

I believe that Luis Christian Ladner was my GGGGGG grandfather. He was born in Pratigau Kanton Graubunden Seewiss, Switzerland May 5, 1690 if my research is correct.
Maried Marie Barbe Brunel in Alabama in 1723 and died in Mississippi, date uncertain. He would have to be a much more distant relative to your mother than a mere GGG I am sure - if this the same man. Or of course maybe he had a son or a grandson named Christian in your line. I am related to him through his son Jean Baptisite, or so I believe.

Hope this helps you!

Penny

Re: Amedee Ladner

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-21 00:45:25Z

Howdy from Houston ~

Really not sure about where I am with this but my gr. gr.gr. grandfather was Julien Ladner b. 1800 prob. in Miss. I have that he was married to Elena Helene Cuevas who died in 1842. Don't have his date of death = perhaps he remarried Georgina Nicaise? I am wondering if my ancestry.com info. might be confusing me...I know that Julien's daughter was my gr. grandmother CELESTINE LADNER and her husband was Edouard Morin! So...did I get into the Cuevas line when I belong in the Nicaise line?

All Mississippi folks for the most part...

Here's hoping I connect with you!

Penny

Re: both ladner and bosarge

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-20 03:09:14Z

Yes! I think so! Just made so much Ladner headway recently - knew very little...don't know the Borsarge line...? Did Luis marry Marie Barbe Brunel?

My mother was Olga Eva Taylor
her mother Lelia Agnes Lepre
her mother Celina Moran
her mother Celestine Ladner
her father Julien Ladner
his father Jean Baptisite Ladner (jr.)
his father Jean " " (sr.)
his father Luis Christian Ladner?

Hope this helps!

I have a photo of Celina... recall two sentimental old old songs my gr.mother Lelia sang to me as a child which might be a Ladner Legacy (who knows?) She died when I was 9 in 1959.

Hope this is of interest or helps you in some way...

Penny Dollahon - Houston

Re: Ladner''s of Bay St. Louis Kiln, Ms

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-20 02:53:50Z

Oh my goodness!

My gr.gr.gr. grandmother was Elena Helene Cuevas and she married Julien Ladner! Just discoverd this in recent months!

Their dau. Celestine was my gr. gr. grandmother, then her daughter Celina Moran was my gr. grandmother, her daughter Lelia Agnes Lepre my grandmother - she died when I was 9(1959) Lovely sweet lady.

I have a photo of Celina. Happy to share. Also I recall two quaint old "family" sentimantal songs Lelia sang to me and can share the lyrics and melody - may very well be Ladner legacies but don't know of course. She spoke French to my mother!

Hope I catch you - I think your posting was in 2000!

All best ~

Penny

Re: Ladner/Allen

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-20 02:40:35Z

This is so interesting to me...my gr. gr. grandmother was Celestine Ladner, daugh. of Julien L. in Mississippi. My gr. grandmother was Celina Moran (b. 1845).

Also my late mother hinted at Indian connections somewhere...she said Choctaw? Direct to me or not, I don't know. Pretty fascinating, though!

I have a photo of Celina in case you're interested. Also two old quaint sentimental songs my grandmother sang to me in the 50's when I was a child...maybe Ladner legacies?

All best ~ Penny

another relation I suppose!

Re: ladner family-mississippi info needed.

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-20 02:25:17Z

Wow! Count me in, then!

My gr. gr. grandmother was Celestine Ladner...I have a photo of my gr. grandmother Celina Moran if that is of any interest to you?

Used to visit Biloxi with my late mother from time to time...(I am 57). My grandmother used to sing two little quaint songs to me as a child (she died when I was 9). Don't know if they were Ladner legacy tunes but they were sentimental...mother to or about a child...recall the melody and lyrics at least in part so am having my music prof. bro in law score them out for me soon...

Happy to share anything!

Penny

Re: ladner family-mississippi info needed.

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-20 02:18:15Z

Greetings!

My gr. grandmother's mother Celestine Ladner was a Mississippi native, as were most of the Ladners in my family dating back to Jean Baptiste Ladner (Sr.) born in Miss. in 1724. We must be connected! Don't know anything about that road...my late mother had a strong Biloxi history.

Let me know if I can be of any help! I'm not very skilled but enthusiastic!

Penny

Re: LADNER/LADNIER Family

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-18 14:18:30Z

Greetings!

My Ladner link follows yours down to Julien Ladner marrying Elena Helena Cuevas. Then their daughter (my gr.gr. grandmother) Celestine Ladner married Edouard Morin and their daugh. was my gr. grandmother Celina Moran (Morin?), mother of my grandmother Lelia Agnes Lepre. She died when I was 9 and actually I have memories of two little quaint songs she entertained me with. I am going to have my musician brother-in-law write out the melody for me! Maybe they came thru the Ladner line...who knows? She spoke French to my mother.

I am confused. Is Ladner also Ladnier? Is that a French name? How was the ancestor born in Switzerland? Any ideas about trades, professions, etc.?

All best!

Penny Dollahon

Ladner/Morin marriage

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-16 20:08:25Z

My gg grandmother was Celestine Ladner who married Edouard Morin in Miss. Born in 1815 and 1825. Heard that "two sisters married two brothers", so wondering if this couple had sibs who married one another as well?

Thanks!

two sisters married two brothers?

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-16 15:30:07Z

Wondering if this occured by any chance among the Ladner line, as my mother told me this happened somewhere in her family (Lepre, Moran, Ladner...?) all living in and around Biloxi, Mississippi in the 1800's. I think the children of these couples would have been "double first cousins"?

Thanks!

Celestine Ladner - Miss.

pennydollahon_1 — 2008-03-16 15:23:17Z

Celestine Ladner b. 1825 was my great-great grandmother. Just starting to explore her family (parents Julien Ladner and Elena Helena Cuevas.) Any info. would be appreciated!

Re: LADNER/LADNIER Family

kaseyrsteele — 2007-10-25 04:28:29Z

The MAUFFRAY lines now have their own message board on ancestry.com

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.mauffray/mb.ashx

That should make it easier to search the lines.

Re: Octavia and Sylvester

kaseyrsteele — 2007-10-25 04:26:31Z

Everyone hear might be pleased to know the MAUFFRAY lines now have their own message board at ancestry.com.

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.mauffray/mb.ashx

Re: Nicholas Ladner m. Marrianne Paquet? St. Martin?

wildmoose22 — 2007-04-28 13:51:39Z

I have this line of Ladners in my family tree. Please email me at oscwolvesfan@aol.com and let me know what you were exactly interested in finding out on this line.

Alse / Alice LADNER ( md Martine WATERS )

bjbambi1977 — 2008-01-04 15:06:58Z

Hello to all,

Until recently i only knew that my 6 x great grandmother was Alse / Alice LADNER,
and married Martine WATERS 19 - sept 1635, st just ,
but now thanks to reading a few posts here,
i have now added another 2 generations to my tree,
on my mothers side,

some say alice WARREN ( nee WATCHER ? ) was their only child ?? )

I am very keen to learn more,
I live in Bendigo, vic, Australia,

regard, from Bindi

Murder of Thomas Ladner, Logan County, Oklahoma

maryachtrh — 2007-12-13 22:04:11Z

Appears in "The Wapanucka Press" 1 January 1903 Wapanucka, Johnston County, Indian Territory, now Oklahoma

Thomas Ladner, a resident of Beaver township, Logan County, was fatally shot on his way home from town. The purpose of the shooting was robbery – about $12 being taken from his pockets after he was shot.

Nicholas Ladner m. Marrianne Paquet? St. Martin?

magnolia2004 — 2007-04-27 14:09:02Z

I would like contact with anyone on this line. Thanks Carolyn