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John Lyon Lambe/Glamis Scotland/b 1431

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Re: John Lyon Lambe/Glamis Scotland/b 1431

Posted: 14 Dec 2011 12:03PM GMT
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Edited: 14 Dec 2011 12:07PM GMT
What is the last name of the Royal family in England?
If you ask a Brit what prince Charley or Willy's last name is, they don't know either. I mean, what's the Queen Mum's last name? Are they Stuarts or what?
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Thank you for the answers, the explanations were all excellent. As a Scottish Chieftain, they all made perfect sense to me. Thanks again.
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This question is asked so often that there is a whole page on the royal families website answering it. The Queen has only needed a surname at one point in her life, when she was 18 years old and served in the army. She used Windsor.
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The queen's patrilineal line (through fathers only) would lead back to the "House of Wettin" . Over the centuries as different properties came under the control of the family they changed the family name to reflect their new estates. However, the royal family adopted the name "Windsor" in 1917 after the town and castle associated with the royal family since the 11th century. At the same time they publicly disavowed there German titles. This was to supress some of the public discontent. The UK was fighting a terrible war with Germany whose emporer was the first cousin of the King.
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The queen's four children (male and female) do not require surnames since they are princes and princess. Princess Anne's children are named after their father (Philips). The children of both Prince William and Prince Harry will also be princes and will not need surnames. The children of Princess Eugenie and Beatrice and Louise will take the name of their father. Only James (1 year old) will pass on the name Mountbatten-Windsor to his children in honor of the royal household name and the surname of Prince Philip. Unfortunately since Prince Philip is already 87, he will never live to meet those children.
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The Queen mother who died in 2002, had no surname either. Normally, the daughter would be called "Elizabeth, The Queen" and the mother would be called "Queen Elizabeth". Since this distinction was considered too subtle for most people, the mother formally included her status as Queen Mother into her style. She was known as Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. This was abbreviated to Queen Mother, and finally to The Queen Mum as a sign of the affection that people felt for her. Her maiden name was "Bowes-Lyon" and this is her bloodline:
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GN - F - Name (Regal #) - Title - Death
0 - X - HM Queen Elizabeth II - HRH The Duke of Edinburgh -
1 - M - HM Queen Elizabeth, - married to HM King George VI - 2002
2 - P - Claude Bowes-Lyon - 14th Earl of Strathmore & Kinghorne - 1944
3 - P - Claude Bowes-Lyon - 13th Earl of Strathmore & Kinghorne - 1904
4 - P - Thomas Lyon-Bowes - Lord Glamis - 1834
5 - P - Thomas Lyon-Bowes - 11th Earl of Strathmore & Kinghorne - 1846
6 - P - John Lyon - 9th Earl of Strathmore & Kinghorne - 1776
7 - P - Thomas Lyon - 8th Earl of Strathmore & Kinghorne - 1753
8 - P - John Lyon - 4th Earl of Strathmore & Kinghorne - 1712
9 - P - Patrick Lyon - 3rd Earl of Strathmore & Kinghorne - 1695
10 - P - John Lyon - 2nd Earl of Kinghorne - 1646
11 - P - Patrick Lyon - 1st Earl of Kinghorne |9th Lord of Glamis - 1615
12 - P - John Lyon - 8th Lord Glamis - 1578
13 - P - John Lyon - 7th Lord Glamis - 1559
14 - P - John Lyon - 6th Lord Glamis - 1528
15 - P - John Lyon - 4th Lord Glamis - 1500
16 - P - John Lyon - 3rd Lord Glamis - 1497
17 - P - Patrick Lyon - 1st Lord Glamis - 1459
18 - P - Sir John Lyon - Master of Glamis - 1435
19 - M - Johanna m. John Lyon - 2nd husband: Thane of Glamis - 1382
20 - P - Robert II - King of Scots - 1390

Maybe this helps it is the Queens line and Sir John is listed as well as son Patrick but not the Lambe part

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