Malcolm, I've just come across your 2010 reply to my 2003 post. I've been taking a break but am back on the trail of my Lilly ancestors. I have a copy of William Lilly's will dated 1815 which said he had come to Harbour Grace 54 Years earlier but I now suspect it may have been later than that and from Salem, Mas. rather than direct from Wales. Susan Gentleman has told me that some of his children, including George, were born in Salem. I believe that his father, James (John) came from Bishopsgate in London but I have been unable to find him there. I would love to hear what you know about these Lilly's.