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Re: LITTLERs of Shropshire & Lancashire, England

den150 — 2009-10-28 01:21:00Z

Hi Kenna100
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Re: LITTLERs of Shropshire & Lancashire, England

Kenna100 — 2009-10-27 08:33:25Z

Hi! Saw your old post on above, but when I went into it, it just said that the domain was for sale. I am researching the above for my friend as she does not have a computer. Do you still have the info - Thanks

Harley Littler Photo 1936

Not_A_Relative — 2009-09-25 06:38:21Z

http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/photo/ohio/15806/harley-litt...

John and Nancy Littler Portrait

emoran71 — 2009-09-12 22:06:05Z

Beautiful ca. 1848 canvas portraits of John & Nancy Littler are up for auction on 9/26/09 in Hillsboro, Highland County, Ohio. See www.rickwilliamsauctionco.com. Thought fellow genealogist or family member may be interested.

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

roblamina — 2009-08-26 15:31:04Z

Thank you very much Michael for clarification of a misinterpretation of our surname. As I mentioned in my last correspondence to you, I am very grateful for any authenticated info. I can get and future findings by yourself I would be very eager to have. My family seat was in Thornton Le Moors in the Parish of Elton, Nr. Helsby.
I have first hand evidence as a boy of 5 years of age
that my Great Grandfather was a Prince of a tribe of Romanys
on the Cheshire circuit, so therefore I am having great
difficulty tracking ancestory down.
Thanking you once again for
your information.
Best Wishes,
Robert

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2009-08-25 16:17:08Z

Dear Robert,
The only people I have come across who associate the Littler name with Littleover, Derby. is a company who sells the origins of family names. I have repeatedly asked them to show me evidence of this claim, but I get no reply!
I have yet to see any evidence from anyone else either. In my view they are confusing the hamlet Littler/Over [Littlover] in the county of Cheshire. Dr George Ormerod clearly gives Over as our place name in his excellent pedigree book on Cheshire families. Regards Michael

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

roblamina — 2009-08-25 11:32:12Z

Dear M?????
My first info on the Littleover link came through the Cheshire Life magazine back in the 60s when it featured a series of Cheshire names.The article also mentioned Wallerscote Manor also the name of one " John de Littleover " who was an Archer in Richard 111s army and was granted an award of 6d a day for life for some heroic deed.
Most of my info comes from 'The Historical Research Centre'
They seem pretty accurate in their research even listing a person named Richard Littler who married Ann Knight in St James,Clerkenwell in 1660
Other refs to our surname can be found in the marriage registers of Prestbury.
Living in Spain as I do now since 1989, I can only rely on info.I pick up from where I can.
Thanks for your quick reply,
Regards,
Robert.

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2009-08-24 21:21:47Z

Dear Robert,
As far as I am concerned the name Littler came from the hamlet Littler, next to Over, near Winsford Cheshire. George Ormerod in his "History of Cheshire" published in 1820 shows the Littler pedigree going back to 1205 to "Little de Over" Cheshire.
I have found no evidence to suport the theory that Littlers came from Littleover, Derby. There is no Littler hamlet in Lancashire. The Littlers were in Wallerscote Manor for about 300 years, I have visited the site, but unfortunately the whole area is now covered to about 40 feet deep in waste potash!.

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2009-08-24 21:21:43Z

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

roblamina — 2009-08-24 15:54:21Z

The surname LITTLER is a toponymic name, meaning that it belongs to that catagory of surnames that derive their origin from the place name where or near the original bearer was born or resided.With regards to the surname LITTLER, this is derived from the place name " Littleover "
a village in Derbyshire. The name crept over the border to Cheshire and remained firmly fixed there.Early references to the surname or to a variant date back to the xv century
and include a record of one John de Littleor who was redgistered as a resident of Cheshire in 1401. One Richard Littler is documented as living in the same county in 1582.
In Burkes General Armoury, amongst the nobility of England, can be found a record of a family by the name of LITTLER whos ancient family seat was located at Wallerscote Manor
Chestershire.

I pesonally have lived in Cheshire ( Tarvin ) most of my 75 years and have never ever come accross any mention of the village or Hamlet of LITTLER in Lancashire.

Robert Dennis Littler

Now resident in Spain

Littler/ Wedgwood

tink127 — 2009-08-10 10:38:52Z

Any help please. Aaron Wedgwood b. 1717/8 - 1782 . Married Sarah Littler b. 1720 - 1793. Staffordshire.
Thank you

Re: robert littler

malkibiggs — 2009-08-08 13:40:25Z

Sorting through some papers recently I found a letter from Rosemary G Muldoon sent to my parents in Glasgow in March 1999. Although I have an address for Rosemary, in the time that has passed she may have moved, so my husband looked for a link just like your's Tanya. I can tell you that Robert Wm Litter was the elder brother of my grandfather John Frederick Littler, they had a younger brother Leonard when the family moved from Manchester to Glasgow around 1895.
I can confirm that there were several other births sadly some did not live to adulthood, I have some information from my Gran Isabella Littler (wife of John F Litter) my Dad's parents. if this is of interest please let me know. I'd be delighted to share with you.

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2008-12-29 20:28:36Z

Hello roger,

Plese let me have your postal address and I will send you the Littler memorial inscriptions

Kind regards

Michael
PS You can email me at mlittler01@aol.com

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

rogerwilloughby — 2008-12-29 01:03:38Z

hello Michael,

Trust you had a good Christmas. You advised me that you could send details of Littler inscriptions on gravestones in Tarvin cemetery. Would still be pleased to receive this info from you...

Kind regards,

Roger

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

sfoster3107 — 2008-10-08 04:24:18Z

Hi Roz,
If you would like the Birth Certificate of Alfred Littler I will send it to you if you give me your address. Contact me on Shirexnz@xtra.co.nx.
Regards Shirley.

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

rozcatlow2 — 2008-10-07 20:28:52Z

hi yes thank you ralph and florence littler were my gt gt grandparents on my mothers side, so the information regarding alfred, is very useful as it gives me the adress of where they were living between census'.

Thanks very much.
Ros

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2008-10-07 09:27:06Z

Hello Rosalynn,

I will send you all my "Main Trunk Littlers" if you email me at:- mlittler01@aol.com

Kind regards

Michael Littler

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

sfoster3107 — 2008-10-07 04:10:04Z

Hello Rosalynn,
I do not have any Ralph's in my tree, however I purchased a Birth certifacte in error and it is for a son Albert born to Ralph Littler and Florence Littler Formerly Bradshaw or Brailshaw on the 29 Sept 1896 at 16, Hardman Street, Ancoats.Manchester.
Hope this may be of interest to you.
Kind Regards
Shirley Foster nee Littler

Re: Littlers in UK

sfoster3107 — 2008-08-25 05:26:51Z

Hi Sue,
My Littlers come from Whitton, & Gt Budworth areas of Cheshire.I am interested in a marriage of Thomas Littler b.1785 to Catherine Edwards. They had Samuel b. 1809. Peter b. 1811 Levi 1816.
Any Connections would be appreciated.
Regards Shirley Foster nee Littler

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

sfoster3107 — 2008-04-04 22:57:43Z

Hi Roger,
I cannot find a connection to your query although I do have a James b.c.1839 and a James 1876.You did not give the years the children were born and his wife's name which might help me.
Kind Regards
Shirley Foster nee Littler

Littler's of Great Budworth,Whitton,Ches.Eng

sfoster3107 — 2006-12-20 03:52:07Z

Help needed. Does anyone recognise this family.Samuel Littler b.1753 = Hannah Moor(e)s Bap.1764 Issue, William Bap 1778 Mary b. 1780 Samuel b.1783 Thomas b. 1785 =Catherine Edwards, Edmund b.1791 John b.1799.Thomas & Catherine's issue were Samuel b 1809 Peter bap.1811 Levi bap.1816.

Re: Littler's of Great Budworth,Whitton,Ches.Eng

sfoster3107 — 2007-10-17 22:45:45Z

Hello
Thank you for your reply to my message.
Yes I am still very interested in the "Littler's" of Great Budworth
Any information you can send me would be greatly appreciated as I cannot get a breakthrough with them.

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

sfoster3107 — 2006-10-25 20:36:16Z

Hi Stephen,
I am researching the Littler family from Cheshire and Lancashire. I would seem that they originated in Cheshire and gradually moved to Lancs., during the Industrial Revolution. From what I have gathered they were Blacksmiths or related trades, until reaching M/cr in the early 1830/40s. I myself was born in Manchester. Although I now live in New Zealand. I did find the village of Littler on a Cheshire map and was very suprised and did wonder about it.
Kind Regards Shirley Foster nee Littler

Re: Littlers in Haydock and other Littlers in Lancashire, England

ancestralfamilytrees — 2008-02-14 05:06:16Z

Glad to help!

No, I didn't use that service but I operate COUNTRY HEARTS GENEALOGY from my home and for very reasonable rates, offer genealogy research help for those unable to do it themselves :-)

I used www.familysearch.org where the 1881 Census is freely offered online.

Dallas

Re: Littlers in Haydock and other Littlers in Lancashire, England

ancestralfamilytrees — 2008-02-14 03:12:01Z

Are you close enough to view any original documents yourself?

Is what you posted all you know so far about Matthew b 1898 and 1866?

I have checked my own database and none of this family are there at this point.

I checked the FREE online 1881 Census at wwww.familysearch.org and found Matthew 1866 with his widowed mother living in Ashton:

Ann LITTLER Head W Female 47 Ashton In Makerfield, Lancashire, England Housekeeper
Matthew LITTLER Son U Male 15 Ashton In Makerfield, Lancashire, England Coal Miners Labr
Mary LITTLER Daur Female 13 Ashton In Makerfield, Lancashire, England Scholar
Betty LITTLER Daur Female 11 Ashton In Makerfield, Lancashire, England Scholar
Margaret LITTLER Daur Female 8 Ashton In Makerfield, Lancashire, England Scholar
Tabithan LITTLER Daur Female 6 Ashton In Makerfield, Lancashire, England Scholar
Source Information:
Dwelling Sims Lane End
Census Place Ashton In Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341905
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3784 / 31
Page Number 24

I also have a genealogy research service you might want to keep in mind for future reference:
http://countryheartsgenealogy.com/

Regards,
Dallas

Ruth LITTLER marr James GLEAVE abt 1836 in Ashton-in-Makerfield

ancestralfamilytrees — 2008-06-05 02:50:42Z

Ruth LITTLER was born Aug 27 1814 in Ashton in Makerfield, d/o Thomas LITTLER & Martha HASLEDEN/HASELDEN.

James GLEAVE was born abt 1815 in Ashton in Makerfield.

Ruth had an illegitimate son Thomas LITTLER born there Jul 29 1834.

She married James abt 1835 in Ashton and their son John was born there on Apr 07 1835.

Daughter Martha was born there Mar 25 1838.
Son James was born 1840 in Newton. There may have been other children but I don't yet know.
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As of the 1841 Census, their surname was incorrectly transcribed GLIONE --

1841 CENSUS

Name: Ruth Glione
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Winwick
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Warrington
Sub registration district: Newton

Household Members:
Name Age
James Glione 26
James Glione 1
John Glione 5
Martha Glione 3
Ruth Glione 27
Thomas Glione 7 [born Thomas LITTLER, s/o Ruth]
* *
I found John and Martha GLEAVE's baptismal records at the Lancahsire OPC project online for St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield parish records.
* *
I cannot find any of them in the 1851 Census.
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James GLEAVE / GLAVE is listed with his brother-in-law, Robert LITTLER in 1861 in St Helen and listed as still married but I can find nothing for Ruth or their children.

1861 CENSUS

Name: James Glave
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Brother-in-law
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Registration district: Prescot
Sub registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Household schedule number: 169

Household Members:
Name Age
**James Glave 46
Mary Littler 56
Robert Littler 51

Abraham Hogarth 23
Abraham Hogarth 35
Daniel Hogarth 20
Bernard Keating 28
John Lee 24
John Smith 22
Robert Sparrow 21
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James seems to have a new wife by 1871 ~ Catherine GLEAVE is a lodger with him and married as well and also born in Ashton but I cannot seem to locate a marriage??

1871 CENSUS

Name: James Gleave
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
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Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Bolton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 95

Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Emmett 27
James Emmett 7
John Emmett 4
Joshua Emmett 33
Thomas Emmett 2
Catherine Gleave 58, abt 1813, lodger, born Ashton
James Gleave 55, abt 1816, lodger, born Ashton
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Catherine dies in Bolton Reg Dist in 1876.
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1881 CENSUS

James GLEAVE is widowed and an inmate in the Bolton Union Workhouse, Farnworth.
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983

Name: James Gleaves
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 67
District: Bolton
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 174
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I would appreciate any information on this family and their surname which appears to have been mis-spelled many times.

Thanks!

Re: Littlers in Haydock and other Littlers in Lancashire, England

ancestralfamilytrees — 2008-02-15 04:37:58Z

All the best in your research and I look forward to hearing from you in a few months :-)

Re: Littlers in Haydock and other Littlers in Lancashire, England

ancestralfamilytrees — 2008-02-14 23:07:47Z

As you said in relation to the O'BRIENs in Ireland - Good Luck!

I am in Canada and a lot of my early LITTLERs were from the Ashton-in-Makerfield area but I don't have yours in my database.

If you ever decide to look further into your LITTLERs, keep my site in mind :-)

http://countryheartsgenealogy.com

Good Luck!

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

willow47 — 2008-03-29 20:11:02Z

I favour your explanation. I have read that Littler comes from place name Little ora, meaning little shore or river bank. Windsor comes from the same source.And the little ahore is the village you identify in Cheshire. My mothers ancestors were from Tarvin/Ashton, Cheshire. Earliest I have is James Littler, born 1817, Ashton, Cheshire. His offspring were John, Thomas, Ralph,Samuel,Elizabeth, James.
Can you provide any further information on these?
Thanks,
Roger Willoughby

Re: Littlers in UK

willow47 — 2008-03-29 19:54:59Z

Hello Dorothy, My grandmother was Mabel Emily Littler, born Bootle,1 nOv 1889. Her father was Joseph, born Tarvin Cheshire 1859. His father was James, born 1817, Ashton, Cheshire. Can you provide further details of any of these?

Roger Willoughby

Re: LITTLER'S IN ILLINOIS

thebitchbrat — 2008-09-15 07:31:25Z

Iam a Littler from ohio we have alot of family there

Re: Littlers in Haydock and other Littlers in Lancashire, England

jandj3161 — 2008-02-14 23:04:05Z

thanks so much. Where are you? I am in Michigan. I might be interested in someone to do some tracing for me. I've come up with some interesting tidbits.
I'm also trying to trace O'Brien's in Ireland...I know...good luck. Unfortunately, my family was not good at keeping the stories alive.

Re: Littlers in Haydock and other Littlers in Lancashire, England

jandj3161 — 2008-02-15 03:32:53Z

I will...I think I've gone as far as I can...my grandfathers mother was Alice and his dad was Matthew who's dad was also Matthew with mother Ann and I think before that it was Peter but not sure.
Gosh, they were all coal miners.
And death certificates didn't show cause and little was said about the woman's maiden name. grr.
O'Briens...pshhh! All I know is my Irish side saying we were desended from kings...weren't we all? :-)
Thanks for your help and I'll contact you in a few months.

Re: Littlers in Haydock and other Littlers in Lancashire, England

jandj3161 — 2008-02-14 01:27:24Z

My grandfather is Matthew b. 1898 with sister Jane Ann b.1889, brothers, Thomas b.1891, Robert b.1900, John b.1894, Henry b.1896
Father Matthew b.1866, Mother Alice from Ashton in Makerfield and around. Just begun researching. Know anything?
thanks

Re: Littlers in Haydock and other Littlers in Lancashire, England

jandj3161 — 2008-02-14 04:07:01Z

wow, thanks for replying so quickly...I think that is the same Matthew...who did lose his father young as did my grandfather Matthew whose mum was Alice. There were so many Littler's. :-)
Did you use this service (countryheartgeneology)?

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2006-12-13 21:37:26Z

Hello Sandra,

I keep telling my wife how lucky she is to be a Littler!!

Kindest regards

Michael Littler

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2006-12-13 21:32:32Z

I have read that the Littlers originated in France and/or Littleover, Derby, England. I don't favour either of these, but would welcome receiving firm information to the contary.
Dr. George Ormerod in his "History of Cheshire" published in 1820 and revised in 1882 states the family started at Over, Cheshire in the 1200s, and shows a pedigree going back to that date. This proposition is also supported by the American George Walker Vale. The Littler distribution is mainly in Cheshire, followed closely by Lancashire, with very few Littlers throughout the rest of the UK. this I believe supports the Over starting point. For those interested, Over is a small village near Winsford, and there is a hamlet on the edge of Over called Littler. Anyone wishing to receive a copy of this Littler line please contact me at mlittler01@aol.com

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2008-03-29 22:32:29Z

Dear Roger,
I am just acknowledging your email at this stage, as it will take a day or two to sort out my records, [I have not done much during the last 18 months] I know that the Tarvin Littlers are directly connected to the Over line. I spent some time taking photographs of the Littler graves in Tarvin churchyard.
Could I ask you to give me a little more information on your Littler line, obviously it will be through the female side at some stage, and where do you currently live?
I retired some 9 years ago to Hoylake, Wirral

Kind regards

Michael Littler

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

mlittler01 — 2008-04-12 19:31:18Z

Dear Roger,

My email address is: mlittler01@aol.com Please contact me and I will then send you details of my Tarvin records.

Kind regards

Michael

Sherman Littler obit

Bvl54 — 2008-09-20 01:04:41Z

I haave a copy. He was 96, formerly of Champaign, Illinois. Born Aug. 11, 1879 near Fithian, IL. Son of Cyrus and Mary Ellen Flaugher. Married Mabel Dunham in 1908.

Re: LITTLERs of Shropshire & Lancashire, England

anyabayliss1 — 2008-06-15 23:53:16Z

My grandmother was born in lancashir and she was annie littler her father was richard and mother was margaret.
She had a brother peter and charlie I know my grand mother came to cananda at the age of thirteen,on a ship and lived in quebec city for a short time.

Re: LITTLERs of Shropshire & Lancashire, England

anyabayliss1 — 2008-06-15 23:53:13Z

Re: Littlers in UK

Dorothy_Dinsdale — 2008-03-30 01:48:10Z

Hi Roger

I will certainly check my records for you. At the moment I am studying a history degree and have assignments and exams over the next few weeks I will check as soon as time allows and get back to you. I have large database of records covering Littlers in many areas of the country and also have connections to other researchers.

regards Dorothy

Re: From the village of Littler in Lancashire England

rozcatlow2 — 2008-10-05 07:54:21Z

Hi there

Just been very interested to read this message! As you may be able to clear up one of those niggling mysteries for me!

I've discovered that one of my ancesters on my fathers side of the family,( Elizabeth Birtenshaw descended from Hannah Catlow )married Ralph Littler of Tarvin in 1869 in Norbury, St Thomas, Stockport. They had 2 children Edith Littler(1872) and Alfred Littler(1874). Ralph then died in 1878 in Chorlton.

However, i dicovered on the 1881 census that there was another Ralph Littler born around the same time, also from Tarvin, living in Salford (very close by). I wondered if the two Ralphs were related? possibly cousins..

Now here comes the complicated bit - the reason why i'm interested in a possible connection between the two ralphs, is because i think there may be a link through to my mothers line who is a Littler and decended from a littler line only 3 miles away.

I am interested to know more about the littler families in tarvin/ashton if you have any information.

Many thanks
Rosalynn Catlow

Death Notice for William C. Littler

maryachtrh — 2007-06-26 20:00:34Z

Notice appears in the Los Angeles Times, 10 May 1946

Littler, William C. Remains in care of Ivy H. Overholtzer Inc.

Seeking Information M. Littler

Jocelyn5004 — 2006-12-09 06:21:27Z

Seeking any details of Mildred Littler. She lived in Montreal, Quebec Canada during the early 1900's.

Re: Margaret Littler of cheshire england

Jocelyn5004 — 2006-12-09 05:51:05Z

I am just beginning my research. I am trying to get more information on Mildred Littler, who I am told, moved to Canada from England. She was in Montreal, Quebec, Canada in the early 1900's. Have you found whether Margaret Littler had any sisters or cousins by the name of Mildred? Thanks.

Re: Littler's of Great Budworth,Whitton,Ches.Eng

thalia20clio — 2007-10-20 11:51:30Z

Hi again,

I have a little info for you from the Great Budworth registers. I have more from Witton cum Twanbrooks Auxiliary Burial Registers but I need to sort out your likely people first from what I have. Would you mind emailing me - just click on my profile for the details? It is a little easier to communicate that way.

I take it you are descended from Thomas & Catherine as you have more info on them. How did you decide that your Thomas was descended from Samuel & Hannah? I can see how you could get a marriage certificate of any of Thomas & Catherine’s children to get the name of the father and used the census to locate their place of birth but I can’t quite understand how you got the next step back - sorry.

I don’t have a record for Thomas & Catherine’s marriage so it would be great if you could share the specifics of where and when they married.

Info from Great Budworth Parish Registers
(Great Budworth Register precaution - much of the pre-1813 registers have been damaged by fire or have difficult to read handwriting so there are most likely more entries for Littler than what I have been able to extract)

•Peter baptised 1811 Aug 23 son of Thomas & Catherine Litler of Barnton
•Levi baptised 1816 Dec 22 son of Thomas & Catherine Litler of Barnton, occ. of father Labourer
•Ellen baptised 1821 May 6 daughter of Thomas & Kitty Litler of Barnton, occ. of father Labourer

I can’t find a reference to a baptism of Thomas in Great Budworth Parish Registers but he could appear in one of the bits that were destroyed. The Bishops Transcripts for that parish that have been extracted to the IGI mention a baptism on 13 Apr 1783 with a father of Thomas. I have not had a chance to order the Bishops Transcripts film yet to check the differences between them and the Parish Registers for my lines but I will do so in the New Year.

Re: Littler's of Great Budworth,Whitton,Ches.Eng

thalia20clio — 2007-10-17 07:55:44Z

A little late to respond but if you are still interested I have some info on this family. I've been trawling through the Great Budworth parish registers and pulling out surnames I am interested in. My Littlers are also in Witton cum Twanbrooks so are probably indirectly related to your Littlers.

Re: Littler and weaver occupation

frostfreedet — 2006-11-10 16:29:23Z