Frederick and Sarah (Temblett) Lockyer
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Re: Frederick and Sarah (Temblett) Lockyer
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Posted: 26 Jan 2008 3:37PM GMT |
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Dear Elaine
Caroline Beake baptised 2 August 1833 at Wembdon (not in 1834 as I erroneously quoted in a previous post) figures as the child of Daniel and Alice Beake in my fellow Temblett researcher's records.
Caroline died an infant, no age given, in August 1833 and was buried at St George's Church, Wembdon on 9 August 1833.(via extract Dorset & Somerset FHS)
Daniel Beake base-born baptised 14 September 1800 is almost certainly the Daniel Temblett age 55 buried at St George's Wembdon 26 July 1855(via extract Dorset & Somerset FHS)
As this particular family were rather peripheral to my own researches at the time, autumn 2004, I did not enquire of my Temblett research contact as to whether the children were entered in the register under the surname Beake or Temblett or both!
In his own records he has the children born 1830 and beyond all listed as Temblett the name they certainly used thereafter probably in the late 1840s.
He quoted the two eldest children Thomas 1824 and Edwin 1827 as being entered in the register as Timlett son of Daniel and Alice Beak(e)which is quite interesting.
Turning to the marriage entry of 14 September 1800 I now see that he originally read the bride's surname in the Wembdon register as Beaker and from the Somerset and Dorset Family History Society extract as Braker. In a letter to me he dwells on the style of handwriting of the curate who wrote 'e' in the same way that people now write 'r' and his 'k' is written to look like 'ke', the curate's writing was rather a scrawl certainly not copper-plate in style.
He also mentions in passing a marriage circa 1800 of a James Beak to a Jane Backon at Wembdon 30 September 1800 and wonders in passing whether James is related to Sarah Beak(e).
As most if not all of them were illiterate there were a range of versions of the spelling of Temblett even within the same family line and in the same generation, it seems to have originally been Temlet or more commonly Timlet, his surname is now Temlett and does not connect to the Wembdon family this side of the mid 18th century if at all!
Today I find in the 1841 UK census that Ancestry has listed at Wembdon
Danica Timblott 65
Eliza Timblott 18
Sarah Timblott 65
My reading of the census taker's writing is Timblett. (I have corrected that via Ancestry.co.uk and suggested an alternative Temblett as well) I think he may be the witness Daniel Timlett at the 14 September 1800 wedding at Wembdon. The ages of Daniel and Sarah are probably rounded off to the nearest 5 years in this case.
Then also in Wembdon in the 1841 census we have with apparent exact ages: -
Robert Tremblett 37 Labourer
Sarah Tremblett 63
(I have a Sarah Temblett age 73 buried at St George's Church, Wembdon 30 March 1851 via extract Dorset & Somerset FHS)
Thos Tremblett 73 Agricultural labourer
The surname is written by the census taker as Tremblett, but in my view should be Temblett and I have suggested to Ancestry.co.uk that spelling as an alternative surname as we now know it. Robert's age is given as 37 which does not quite match a birth year of circa 1802, but he may be the Robert Temblett who is living in the same household with Alice, Daniel's widow in the 1861 census.
Note we may well now have a Daniel and a Thomas Timlett of 1800 (later other spellings for the surname) both married to a Sarah, so the question is which Sarah is the base-born Daniel Beake alias Temblett's mother?
A Sarah Temblett died in March quarter 1851 the GRO ref is not very easy to read, I think it is volume 10 page 206, it might be worth you getting the death certificate, if you are lucky you might find the informant is her son Daniel Beake alias Temblett.
There is another Sarah Temblett GRO Bridgwater record of 1860 who might just be the 1841 Danica!!! or rather Daniel Timblott's widow and another candidate to be Daniel Beake alias Temblett's mother. Perhaps she was and Daniel her husband was not the father or never formerly acknowledged he was the father and just 'adopted' the base-born Daniel Beake boy the son of his wife.
I think I have given you more than enough leads so the best of luck with your further researches, do let me know how you get on.
Regards
Malcolm
Caroline Beake baptised 2 August 1833 at Wembdon (not in 1834 as I erroneously quoted in a previous post) figures as the child of Daniel and Alice Beake in my fellow Temblett researcher's records.
Caroline died an infant, no age given, in August 1833 and was buried at St George's Church, Wembdon on 9 August 1833.(via extract Dorset & Somerset FHS)
Daniel Beake base-born baptised 14 September 1800 is almost certainly the Daniel Temblett age 55 buried at St George's Wembdon 26 July 1855(via extract Dorset & Somerset FHS)
As this particular family were rather peripheral to my own researches at the time, autumn 2004, I did not enquire of my Temblett research contact as to whether the children were entered in the register under the surname Beake or Temblett or both!
In his own records he has the children born 1830 and beyond all listed as Temblett the name they certainly used thereafter probably in the late 1840s.
He quoted the two eldest children Thomas 1824 and Edwin 1827 as being entered in the register as Timlett son of Daniel and Alice Beak(e)which is quite interesting.
Turning to the marriage entry of 14 September 1800 I now see that he originally read the bride's surname in the Wembdon register as Beaker and from the Somerset and Dorset Family History Society extract as Braker. In a letter to me he dwells on the style of handwriting of the curate who wrote 'e' in the same way that people now write 'r' and his 'k' is written to look like 'ke', the curate's writing was rather a scrawl certainly not copper-plate in style.
He also mentions in passing a marriage circa 1800 of a James Beak to a Jane Backon at Wembdon 30 September 1800 and wonders in passing whether James is related to Sarah Beak(e).
As most if not all of them were illiterate there were a range of versions of the spelling of Temblett even within the same family line and in the same generation, it seems to have originally been Temlet or more commonly Timlet, his surname is now Temlett and does not connect to the Wembdon family this side of the mid 18th century if at all!
Today I find in the 1841 UK census that Ancestry has listed at Wembdon
Danica Timblott 65
Eliza Timblott 18
Sarah Timblott 65
My reading of the census taker's writing is Timblett. (I have corrected that via Ancestry.co.uk and suggested an alternative Temblett as well) I think he may be the witness Daniel Timlett at the 14 September 1800 wedding at Wembdon. The ages of Daniel and Sarah are probably rounded off to the nearest 5 years in this case.
Then also in Wembdon in the 1841 census we have with apparent exact ages: -
Robert Tremblett 37 Labourer
Sarah Tremblett 63
(I have a Sarah Temblett age 73 buried at St George's Church, Wembdon 30 March 1851 via extract Dorset & Somerset FHS)
Thos Tremblett 73 Agricultural labourer
The surname is written by the census taker as Tremblett, but in my view should be Temblett and I have suggested to Ancestry.co.uk that spelling as an alternative surname as we now know it. Robert's age is given as 37 which does not quite match a birth year of circa 1802, but he may be the Robert Temblett who is living in the same household with Alice, Daniel's widow in the 1861 census.
Note we may well now have a Daniel and a Thomas Timlett of 1800 (later other spellings for the surname) both married to a Sarah, so the question is which Sarah is the base-born Daniel Beake alias Temblett's mother?
A Sarah Temblett died in March quarter 1851 the GRO ref is not very easy to read, I think it is volume 10 page 206, it might be worth you getting the death certificate, if you are lucky you might find the informant is her son Daniel Beake alias Temblett.
There is another Sarah Temblett GRO Bridgwater record of 1860 who might just be the 1841 Danica!!! or rather Daniel Timblott's widow and another candidate to be Daniel Beake alias Temblett's mother. Perhaps she was and Daniel her husband was not the father or never formerly acknowledged he was the father and just 'adopted' the base-born Daniel Beake boy the son of his wife.
I think I have given you more than enough leads so the best of luck with your further researches, do let me know how you get on.
Regards
Malcolm