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Gambles & Neills

Barbara Gamble Kennedy (View posts)
Posted: 23 Oct 1999 6:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gamble, Neill
Do you have dates for the movement of your Gamble ancestors
from England to Scotland and Ireland. I have traced "our"
Gambles as far back as Ireland (late 1700's - early 1800's)
but apparently like yours, the trail seems to have been
Scotland - Ireland - Scotland, then U.S. to New York, Ontar-
io and then Minnesota. There apparently were relatives left
behind and some who came ahead - primarily from Scotland -
but haven't definitely connected names. Family letters from
GGM Mary Ann Neill Gamble to her parents back in Ontario in-
dicate relatives in Pa. Today (figuratively speaking) there
are 10 or 12 known Gamble families in Dundee. I've always
been certain (although at first just a hunch) that the Gamble name is not Irish in origin, although as children we
always thought of ourselves as "Irish". From some reading
I've done I think the Scotland-Ireland movement had to do
with the land settlements in Ireland - it would fit into the
time line.
Let me know what you may connect from this, if anything, and
I'll try to get more positive dates. The one I have for
certain is my GGF who was born at 'Coot's Hill' Co. Cavan,
Ireland in August of 1834. He went to Scotland with his
family (members unknown) when he was about 8; met and mar-
ried Mary Ann Neill (father William - Ontario death records
indicate his age as 86 and death occurred in August, 1895;
he was born in Armagh); they had one child, Elizabeth, in
Dundee, in 1863 and the second, Alexander, in Albany, NY,in
1865. So - somewhere between the two children they came to
the US. Mary Ann's parents came with them. They were in
Albany for 6/7 years before going on to Beaverton, Ontario.
Have not found any records of citizenship/application, etc
for them. (Family rumor has it that they were asked to work
for the Union Army weaving cloth, as both Alex and his fath-
er-in-law were noted in several places to be 'weavers'.
This time period was one of, if not the great times of the
weaving industry in the Dundee area (from internet friends
in Scotland) so that part might be logical. Haven't figured
yet how to trace, if at all possible, their employment with
"the government", particularly since they weren't citizens.
Probably what happened was that they were able to get work
when they got here, given the times and situation, and since
they were apparently accomplished in their field, were hir-
ed.
Have not yet 'tackled' the GRO in Scotland or Ireland for
more definitive information on birth certificates, etc. Mary
Ann and Alexander are the only two children in both families
that we have definite information on; I'm sure there were
more and, as mentioned, it could be that some did come before them to the U.S. (The above mentioned letters did not
indicate anything other than names, no dates nor specifics,
unfortunately.)

I think we may have corresponded once before (I don't
keep track of all my messages, unfortunately!), but perhaps
this gives enough info to find something positive. I'd
really like to find out if there are more Gambles in the U.
S. that we may be related to - no matter how many times re-
moved!! I've already had a couple surprisees when tracking
greatuncles who seemed to move around quite a bit!!

Barbara Gamble Kennedy

Looking for: Gambles & Neills (or Neals, Niels, etc)





SubjectAuthorDate Posted
Linda Goodell 27 Sep 1998 12:00PM GMT 
DixieGamble 15 May 1999 12:00PM GMT 
Linda Goodell 15 May 1999 12:00PM GMT 
DixieGamble 18 May 1999 12:00PM GMT 
Linda Goodell 19 May 1999 12:00PM GMT 
Barbara Gamble Kennedy 23 Oct 1999 12:00PM GMT 
ScottWBaker 29 Dec 2011 3:51AM GMT 
colmckee84 7 Feb 2013 4:26PM GMT 
jeanold425 8 Feb 2013 1:24AM GMT 
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