Midwinter - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

frankdutton_1 — 2009-08-13 23:43:54Z

Hi, My tree is public. The Benjamin and Joseph I have are based on birthdates taken from the IGI sources and have parents named in those sources as William & Mary.

Joseph was a carpenter and Benjamin a stone mason. He has a number of mentions in various trade directories for the area.

It looks like Joseph went off to Canada after 1851.

I also have another more detaile tree on My Heritage but that requires an email address to send an invitation to.

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

lilianmidwinter1 — 2009-08-13 11:21:19Z

I would very much like an invite to view your tree as I have many Midwinter ancestors from Northleach. However the brothers Benjamin and Joseph in my tree were born at Winson not far from Northleach - I found their baptisms in the Gloucester Archive Centre and their parents were listed as Benjamin Midwinter and Joyce ??

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

frankdutton_1 — 2009-08-13 07:26:11Z

We have now found a marriage certificate for Anne Midwinter (b 1810 Northleach) who married James Heath.

The certificate clearly states her father was William Midwinter a stonemason from Northleach.

My uncle and I think that this ties her closely to the tree we have published which shows Benjamin and Joseph as brothers, one was also a stonemason the other a carpenter.

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

lilianmidwinter1 — 2009-07-11 16:45:51Z

Hi Laura, My husband David is also a great great grandson of Amos. Who are your parents, David's are Miriam and Arthur Midwinter. Arthur was the son of William and Fanny and William was the son of Amos. Amos and Sophia had 7 children altogether. If these are the same descendants as yours, please let me know. Is your Family History Public and if so can I connect to it? At the present time I do not subscribe to Ancestry and cannot access parts of it, but if you want to you can email me direct at lilian.midwinter@talktalk.net Hope to hear from you soon. Regards, Lilian

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

littlemissgin — 2009-07-11 16:06:38Z

Yes it links to my tree, Amos is my great great grandad.

Kezia Danks/Midwinter

littlemissgin — 2009-07-11 10:58:20Z

Hi , trying to find info on William Evans Midwinter, I know his parents were William John and Rebecca Evans and his paternal grandmother was Kezia Danks, but I can't seem to go back any further. Anyone know who Kezia was married to?

Re: Amy Midwinter

neil40 — 2009-03-30 22:15:05Z

Anne,

Please contact me via neil40@btinternet.com, as I think this is the same family.

My research has shown that Job Midwinter married Amelia Stokes in 1828, they had 3 children Jane, Elizabeth and William.
He then married Maria Stanley in 1839 and had many more - Robert, Letitia, Mary Maria, John George, Eliza, Amy (my Great grandmother), Job, Reuben, Edith and Levi

Neil

Re: Amy Midwinter

neil40 — 2009-03-30 22:03:43Z

Hi 'avanceappel' (sorry, you didn't give your name!)

I would be pleased if you would email me at neil40@btinternet.com.

I had some emails and pictures back in 2001 from a June Vance. Is that you?

Look forward to hearing from you.
Neil Grantham

Re: Amy Midwinter

avanceappel — 2009-03-30 19:03:15Z

Hello there,

I discovered today that Amy Midwinter Grantham is my great great grandmother. My paternal grandmother Alberta June Kench Vance is her granddaughter through her daughter Edith Maude Grantham Kench. I found a photo of Amy and she looks almost exactly like myself, which is eery. I have some information, so please feel free to contact me. I live in Canada and Job, her father, moved here with his second wife.

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

ChristopherDutton — 2009-01-30 16:17:24Z

Working with my Nephew,Frank Dutton, we have been able to establish the following which we think is correct.
If any one can verify, add or enlighten it would be great.
Anne(Heath) Midwinter. Born 1810 Northleach
Sarah Midwinter. Born 1807 Northleah
Benjamin Midwinter. Born Northleach 1805. Stonemason
Joseph Midwinter. Born 1799. Guiting Power
Hannah Midwinter. Born 1797. Guiting Power
Winifred Midwinter. Born 1795. Guiting Power
These were all the children of
William Midwinter. Born 1769.Born Letchlade.Stone Mason
and his wife
Mary who he married in 1794 in Guiting Power.
I understand William's parents may be William and Elizabeth

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

lilianmidwinter1 — 2009-01-23 20:53:48Z

My husband DAVID MIDWINTER has a great grandfather AMOS 1829 born in Kemble, SON OF WILLIAM 1802 also born in Kemble - SON of JOSEPH MIDWINTER 1717 FROM NORTHLEACH making Joseph my husband's 3x great grandfather. Does this link in to your family?

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

frankdutton_1 — 2008-11-15 23:13:19Z

Hi Nicholas,
We have a Midwinter in our familt tree who married into the Heath family also of Northleach.

Check out this site. Quite a lot of info on the Midwinters.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/source.aspx?pubid=537

Ann Midwinter

ChristopherDutton — 2007-12-03 15:27:47Z

I am looking to find an connection with my Great, Great Grandmother who was Ann Midwinter.
She was born in 1811 and died 19.9.1866. She married James Heath and on her death was buried in St.Peter & St Paul’s Church Northleach Gloucestershire.
It is believed that she may have been related to William Midwinter who has a brass in Northleach Church dated 1550, presuming that W.M relates to him..
William Midwinter had lands levied to him in the area in 1484 from John Purlewyn and his wife Ann, who was the daughter and heir of John Doding.
It appears that William Midwinter may have married a judge’s daughter named Lemryke in about 1482. In 1493 William Midwinter was bailiff.
Rumor has it that William Midwinter, in the reign of Edward IV, sent 4 rams and 20 ewes to the King of Aragon and from these all the Merino sheep in Australia and South Africa are descended.
If you can connect with this I would be pleased to here from you

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

gemmamidwinter — 2007-11-29 17:29:53Z

Hello!! I have been quite successful. Gone back 9 generations. If you send me your e mail address I will invite you to my tree?
Mine is gemma.midwinter@sky.com
Gemma
:o)

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

annecm1 — 2007-11-24 08:39:58Z

Hi Gemma,

There's Midwinters all round Oxfordshire - and in Oxford itself. My family came from Burford and later moved to Abingdon. There's several families in the 1800s in Oxford, keeping pubs and several more in the Ducklington area. There's even a 1700s midwinter who was "keeper of the chickens" at one of the Oxford Colleges who'd be a rather fun ancestor to have.
I collect Midwinters, so when you find out a bit more I may be able to help you. I reckon we're all related, somewhere way, way back in the 14th century!
Regards
Anne

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

gemmamidwinter — 2007-11-23 12:49:21Z

Hi
I am Gemma Midwinter aged 26, only just started thinking about doing the family tree and have requested some info from my grandfather John midwinter whom was born in Oxford around 1930, I would like to stay in contact and communicate again soon, hopefully I will have a lot more info. My granfather had/has several brothers.
We did find several Midwinters in Oxford on gravestones but I was younger then . I am very keen to find out a lot more now!! Look forward to a reply. Gemma Midwinter

Re: Amy Midwinter

gemmamidwinter — 2007-11-23 12:36:26Z

Hi there, I thought id get in contact. I am just about to start tracing my family tree. I am a Midwinter living in Salisbury , Wilts.
I am only just starting so have no info yet, I am awaiting a reply from my granfather. He is John Midwinter born around 1930 in Oxford. I have yet to get his details of parents and grandparents names and dates.BUT I WILL!!
I know he has or had several brothers and his mother was a "Bolchier" I think!! Would be nice if you had any connection. We did visit Oxford a few years ago and found several Midwinter gravestones, maybe I should re-visit. I am 26.Thanks.Look forward to a reply!!Gemma Midwinter

Re: Edward MIDWINTER, Oxford

gemmamidwinter — 2007-11-23 11:56:53Z

Hi there, I am just starting up with my family tree and have lots of info to gather.
My grandfather John Midwinter came from Oxford and he now lives in Cornwall.Just wandered if there is any connection with your Edward. I will have to find out his parents names and so on, as I am awaiting for him to reply with some info.
I know he has/had about 4 brothers.

Re: Elizabeth Midwinter

2006-07-06 12:40:25Z

Hi
all I have for definite is that Thomas Deacon, born c. 1741 was my 5 x great grandfather, I descend through his daughter Bellaria (1767 - 1837). When trying to find clues to Bellaria's mother I came across the marriage of a Thomas Deacon and Elizabeth Midwinter , right time, right place but I cannot prove a link and was hoping someone might be able to help.

Carolyn

Re: Eliabeth Midwinter

2006-05-25 14:19:26Z

My Midwinter is ANN. Born in 1811. Married James Heath. Died in 1866. Buried in St.Peter & St. Pauls. Northleach. Gloucstershire. I have no knowledge of the Midwinter part of the family.

Re: Looking for ancestors of Kenneth Stanley Midwinter

2005-09-29 08:18:29Z

My Midwinter was born in 1811 and married a Heath.
I have no records of her parents.
Good luck with your search
Chris

Re: Looking for ancestors of Kenneth Stanley Midwinter

2005-09-29 06:53:21Z

Edmonton, Canada?

Re: Midwinter - Christopher Robin

2004-09-09 14:55:14Z

Sorry I cannot help on this

Midwinter - Christopher Robin

2004-09-08 20:17:02Z

I would like to find my half brother Christopher Robin. He was the natural son of William Roy Midwinter and Marjory or Margaret, and was adopted by a policeman and his wife who came from Wolverhampton or Birmingham.

Re: Brazier Family

2004-08-02 08:09:37Z

I am sorry there is no connerction.
Regards

Re: Edward MIDWINTER, Oxford

NedraE — 2007-09-22 18:56:30Z

Finally received the Parish Records CD!

Edward Midwinter (1818 - 1870) was the son of John Midwinter (1791 - 1836) and Mary Hillier Marsh. John was a publican.

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Edward's father, John Midwinter was the son of Edward Midwinter (abt 1748 - 1816) & Mary. I haven't found Edward & Mary's marriage yet, could have been anywhere.

Edward & Mary's family... their Children all baptized at St. Clement's
Ann Midwinter 1788 - 1810
John Midwinter 1791 - 1836
Mary Midwinter 1793 -
Jane Midwinter 1795 - 1799
Edward Midwinter 1797 -
Thomas Midwinter 1800 -

Edward MIDWINTER, Oxford

NedraE — 2007-08-03 14:18:56Z

Edward Midwinter of Oxford figures into my Thompson family line.

Descendants of Unknown Midwinter

1 Unknown Midwinter
........ 2 Edward Midwinter b: Abt. 1819 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
............ +Georgiana Eaton Thompson b: 08 Sep 1818 in St. Aldate, Oxfordshire, England m: 1847 in Headington, Buckinghamshire, Oxford d: Dec 1887 in Edmonton, Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
................... 3 Georgiana Capel Midwinter b: Sep 1849 in Stepney, London, Middlesex, England
....................... +James Knight b: Abt. 1849 in Ulcombe, Kent, England
................... 3 Edward James Henry Midwinter b: 1852 in Stepney, London, Middlesex, England d: 21 Mar 1928 in Brighton, England
....................... +Ada
................... 3 Thomas William Midwinter b: 27 Nov 1852 in St Sepulchre, London, Middlesex, England
................... 3 Mary Jane Midwinter b: 30 Aug 1854 in St Sepulchre, London, Middlesex, England
................... 3 John A. Midwinter b: 1857 in London, Middlesex, England
................... 3 George Stephen Midwinter b: 13 Feb 1858 in London, Middlesex, England
................... 3 Catherine Sarah Midwinter b: 06 Apr 1861 in London, Middlesex, England

Who were his parents? I believe he's on the 1841 census in Oxford with his grandmother, Mary Midwinter.

any connections?

Looking for ancestors of Kenneth Stanley Midwinter

carodell — 2005-09-28 17:06:08Z

I have just started researching my family histroy and am having a big problem with my mothers family.
Her father was Kenneth Stanley Archard (nee Midwinter) born circa 1918 in Camberwell, London. His natural parents were Stanley A Midwinter b:1887 (edmonton) and Nellie Alder b:1894/5 (walworth,london). Nellie died in 1918 in Camberwell and Stanley completly dissapears without trace.
I know that he was in the RAF (bus driver??) and that they married in Croydon in 1917 but cannot find out anything further about him.
I have requested a copy of his birth cert. but wonder if anyone has any information that would help.
I have some information on his adoptive parents, Nathaniel and Alice Archard , who were grocers in West-Ham, London,but cannot find any connection which would have lead to a possible adoption.

Here's hoping for some new leads.
Caroline

Found Stanley in 1901

carodell — 2005-09-30 09:35:50Z

Anne,
Thanks for sending on the GEDCOM ( I will have to work out how to use it when i find it) -

Your Ernest P was shown as a pupil at St.Saviours College, Ardingley, Sussex during the 1901 Census.

My Stanley is also shown as a pupil here although he is listed as Hanley A Maianenter (someone either couldn't hear or couldn't read) but I am sure this is him as dob and pob are correct.

I have Alfred as marrying Lousia B ? also and I am sure this was a second marriage.

Many thanks for all your help.
Caroline

Re: Looking for ancestors of Kenneth Stanley Midwinter

carodell — 2005-09-29 15:25:18Z

Thanks Chris
If I bump into any Midwinters who married Heath's I will let you know - seem to be a lot more Midwinters out there than I thought.

Cheers
Caroline

more midwinters

carodell — 2005-09-29 15:22:33Z

Hello again Anne,

I have had some time today to do a little more research and seem to have found a few interesting snippits.

Your Ernest P was born in 1889 in Cheshunt
My Stanley Alfred was born in 1887 in Edmonton (same reg. district as Cheshunt.)
Your Ernest P was born to Ernest V & ?
My Stanley A was born to Alfred James & Amelia Pardoe (this needs more thorough research)
Your Ernest V was born 1864, St. Jude, Southwark to Alfred and Fanny.
My Alfred James was born 1861 St.Jude, Southwark to Alfred and Fanny.
DO YOU THINK THEY ARE BROTHERS????

Alfred was born 1819 ish, he is quoted as having been born in Reading and Sonning, Oxfordshire - my research show Sonning and Reading are both in Berks. He married Fanny Puddicombe (born in Lambeth 1825 ish) in 1850 in West London.

Your Ernest P was living with Alfred and Fanny (grandparents) in 1891.
If my Stanleys mother was Amelia she died in 1888 and he then dissapears.

DO YOU THINK THEY ARE COUSINS???

Hope some of this makes sense, a GEDCOM of your Midwinters would be excellent - If I find anymore I will let you know.
Kind Regards
Caroline

Re: Looking for ancestors of Kenneth Stanley Midwinter

carodell — 2005-09-29 12:02:56Z

Anne
Many thanks for the information. The Stanley Alfred Midwinter you mentioned had seamens records at the PRO is the same person. Having looked into registration districts Edmonton and Cheshunt were the same district. I have docs showing he was in the RAF in 1917 which ties in nicely with the PRO records. Only problem I have now is who his parents were and when he died (this is a vital piece of info that eludes me)
I'll keep looking,
Once again your help was greatly appreciated.
Caroline

Brazier Family

2005-04-24 07:24:00Z

I am researching the Brazier family. Charles Midwinter (1851-1939) whose parents are Charles Midwinter and Mary Palmer married Sarah Brazier. I believe I may have had access to some of your research already. Please email me if we have a connection.
Thanks.

Re: Looking for ancestors of Kenneth Stanley Midwinter

annecm1 — 2005-09-29 07:27:41Z

No, Edmonton Middlesex, right? Sorry, I'm an ignorant colonial.
I can't find him in the 1901 census, but in the Seaman's Records at the PRO there is a Stanley Albert Midwinter b. 03 May 1887 in Cheshunt, Hertfordshire.
I've only got one other Midwinter (I collect Midwinters) born in Cheshunt and that is Ernest P. Midwinter, who was born about 1888. He is the son of Ernest Varnet (sic) Midwinter who is the son of Alfred Midwinter - and that's as far as I know on that line.
You can download a pdf of Stanley Albert's naval record but I don't think they have any family details on them. I've got a huge file of Midwinters (including the Ernests mentioned above) if you'd like a gedcom - but there's a lot of extranous ones in there!
Anne

Re: more midwintersd think it quite possible that

annecm1 — 2005-09-30 08:19:22Z

I would think it quite possible that they were cousins - I wonder if Stanley Alfred was adopted in an unofficial way after his mother died? That'd be why he doesn't appear in the 1901 census as Stanley Midwinter, but for records where proof of ID was required, ie. military or marriage, he is recorded as Midwinter?
I have Alfred James as being married to Louisa Unknown. Their first child (or eldest surviving) was born about 1895, so I guess a second marriage.
Anyway, I've sent you the latest incarnation of my Midwinter (and associates) gedcom. I'm sorry, you'll have to wade through lots and lots of un-related Midwinters to get to yours

Re: Edward MIDWINTER, Oxford

annecm1 — 2007-08-04 20:38:24Z

Hi,

I'm afraid not - but I'd be very interested if you do find out anymore on his ancestors as 'my' Midwinters came from around the Oxford area. However, Edward was a fair bit posher than my 'ag. lab.' relatives, so I imagine it's not a close relationship.
One potential lead (or possibly a total red herring) is that Catherine's son Guy Midwinter was visiting the Hewitt/Hewett family in the 1901 census and Elizabeth Hewitt/Hewett's maiden name was Midwinter. However, her parents were Thomas and Elizabeth and she was born in London, so perhaps it's a total coincidence.
Regards
Anne

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

annecm1 — 2007-04-18 00:57:55Z

Hi Ruth,

Hows the research going?

I knew I'd seen them somewhere. There's a bit I love when one Cely is complaining to another that William is dunning them for some money they owe him and moans in a letter "Midwinter is come again. God rid us of him" I just love that!

Anne

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

annecm1 — 2007-04-17 12:30:58Z

Thank you Nicholas, I must see if I can get that book!

The papers are records of the Cely family who were London wool merchants, William delt with them. I think they're on-line somewhere.

Re: Edward MIDWINTER, Oxford

annecm1 — 2007-09-22 22:04:46Z

Thanks for that!

I have an Edward, born 1749 in Burford, Oxfordshire, son of Jane Coburn and John Midwinter. But I have no idea who he married - or even if he survived to grow up, so that doesn't really help much at all.

Regards
Anne

Re: Found Stanley in 1901

annecm1 — 2005-09-30 19:02:34Z

LOL I had thought about checking Ernest's school, but thinking was as far as I got! That's more evidence for a connection isn't it?

Some of the transcription errors are tremendous, I've found Midinter, Madwinter (I'm thinking of using that myself) Nudwinter, Midwinner .....

Anne

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

RuthCurtis2005 — 2007-04-17 22:00:23Z

Hi Cousin Anne - and other members

The Cely Papers can be found at:
http://www.r3.org/bookcase/cely/

You will find the MIDWINTER references in:

Part I: Introduction
http://www.r3.org/bookcase/cely/cely1.html

There are a number of references on this page, in more than one paragraph, so use your browser's "FIND" function to search for MIDWINTER.

Part II: Letters 1-50
http://www.r3.org/bookcase/cely/cely2.html

In this section - all manner of spellings are used for the MIDWINTER name - sometimes more than one even in the same paragraph.

Letter 11
Letter 21
Letter 28
Letter 30
Letter 31
Letter 32

Part III: Letters 51-91
http://www.r3.org/bookcase/cely/cely3.html

Again, lots of variations in MIDWINTER spelling in this part:

Letter 58
Letter 78
Letter 79
Letter 89
Letter 90

Part IV: Letters 92-124
http://www.r3.org/bookcase/cely/cely4.html

Letter 105
Letter 108
Letter 110

Part V: Letters 125-150
http://www.r3.org/bookcase/cely/cely5.html

Letter 126
Letter 127

I think that the above-mentioned letters are all of them, but if you find any others, please let me know.

Regards
Ruth

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

RuthCurtis2005 — 2007-04-17 14:28:23Z

Hi Nicholas

I too would really like to get a copy of that book.

But - one slight problem - are you absolutely sure about the title of the book?

I can find that Reginald Arkell wrote "The Round House" in 1958 - but I have not been able to find any mention of "The Round Tower". The only book I can find titled "The Round Tower" is by Catherine Cookson, which would NOT be the same thing at all.

Would you please have the ISBN for the book, as it will help in tracking it through second-hand bookshops? Thanks.

For anyone reading this thread - my partner is Christopher MIDWINTER, who is a direct descendant of the above-mentioned William MIDWINTER of Northleach (14x great-grandfather) - and I am interested in sharing any and all MIDWINTER information - however slight your connection may be.

Ruth Curtis
Adelaide, South Australia

Re: Marian Midwinter

AnneMidwinter — 2004-07-11 23:01:05Z

I don't have a Marian of the correct age in my family tree, but I have extracted all the Midwinters I could find in the 1901 British census and there are two butchers.

Stanley Midwinter, aged 20 in 1901, born in Holton, Oxford, living (in 1901) in Sheerness, Kent

Frederick Midwinter, aged 31 in 1901, born in Sale, Cheshire, living (in 1901) in South Manchester.

In 1901 Stanley was unmarried. Frederick was married with a boy and a girl. The son (Herbert Harrison) was killed in France, 1917.

Do either of them sound like possibles?

Anne

Eliabeth Midwinter

cramsbottom2003 — 2006-05-22 21:02:19Z

Looking for info on Elizabeth Midwinter who married Thomas Deacon on 18th October 1766 in Windrush, Gloucs.

Re: Elizabeth Midwinter

cramsbottom2003 — 2006-07-07 00:22:00Z

thanks

anything you find would be great. I am stuck on both sides of the family.

Carolyn

Re: Midwinters in Northleach

nmfa1 — 2007-04-16 14:54:04Z

The Midwinters in Northleach go back to at least 1482. A William (Will) Midwinter shows up a lot from that period as he is mentioned frequently in a set of papers from the period (whose name currently escapes me) as a wool trader and something of a match maker.

I first became aware of him through a book that turned up recently in our family that had been given as a present by someone whose mother was Midwinter and seemed to think that she was descended from him (which seems likely but is far from proven yet as I have only just started looking into it properly). The book is "The Round Tower" by Reginald Arkell, a fictional novel, but very locally set and based around the Midwinter family. The 1482 Will Midwinter gets a mention.

Nicholas Adams

Re: Charles Midwinter, England

pippa19 — 2007-01-03 19:41:42Z

saw your posting about Charles Midwinter. I am trying to find out more about a Charles born in Birmingham in about 1900. I can find him on 1901 census with mother Laura, but nowhere else.
Is this the same Charles?

Re: Midwinter

joanthorn_1 — 2007-07-27 02:53:15Z

hi Wendy,
It has been many years since I have heard from you. What happened?
Joan Thorn daughter of the late William Henry Midwinter Duval.

Re: Elizabeth Midwinter

hjmack1 — 2006-07-06 22:53:05Z

I love your 4 x great grandmother's name!
If I find anything I'll let you know, I'm a bit of an obsessive Midwinter collector.

Re: Eliabeth Midwinter

hjmack1 — 2006-07-06 09:12:02Z

Hi,
I've got an Elizabeth Midwinter of about the right age (b 1746), in Burford, which is about 5 miles down the road. Problem is I don't know whom she married.
There were Midwinters all around that area, so I can't promise that your Elizabeth is the same as mine (my 4x great aunt). I can send you a rather unwieldy gedcom if you're interested.
Anne Midwinter