I BELIEVE MY GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GRANDFATHER, GEORG "MARTIN" BAHRT MARRIED A ELIZABETH MILLER AROUND 1854 IN TAMAQUA PA, AT THE ST JOHNS' LUTHERAN CHURCH. THEIR ONLY SON WAS MY GREAT-GREAT GRANDFATHER JOHN WILLIAM BAHRT, WHO WENT TO HAZLETON. HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE LISTS HIS MOTHER ONLY AS "ELIZABETH", BUT MARTIN LIVED WITH THE MILLER FAMILY WHEN HE CAME HERE FROM GERMANY (1847 &48). THE 1850 CENSUS HAS HIM LIVING WITH CHRISTIAN & MARTHA MILLER AND SONS HENRY, FREDERICK, AND ELIZABETH IS LISTED NEXT TO MARTIN BARD (BAHRT). WOULD LIKE TO FIND MORE INFORMATION. ST JOHNS HAS NO RECORDS, I BELIEVE THAT WERE DESTROYED IN A FIRE.
JASON BAHRT

I have located an Ida C. Miller of Tamaqua who married George M. Bauer on 24 Feb 1886 at the Trinity Reformed Church, Tamaqua. I am researching the BAUER line. Hope this helps.

Linda

Hi
I don't know if Ida is the daughter of one of the sons, Frederick, Christopher, or Henry Miller who lived on Market St. If you go back further with Ida and find that she is related to them let me know. I have lost track of their family, but might get more information in April when the 1930 census comes out.

Jason Bahrt

Jason,

your original post was quite awhile ago -- but if you are
still looking -- we have Millers from Tamaqua in our family.

Originally from Kurhessen, Germany, -- Frederick (1822/1833)and his wife Dortha (1829) also from Kurhessen.
Their children George (1850), Peter (1852)John W (1854)
Christian (1857/1859) Catharine (1863) John Frederick (1864) and Annie (1869). John W is my g-grandfather and
he married a Susannah (1865) Kellner and had 6 children.
They continued to live in Tamaqua and Reading. My grandather is George W and he married a Minnie (1901) Ware
and moved the family to Mahanoy City.

There are about 5 or 6 distinct Miller families in the
area. In fact there is a DNA project trying to sort them
all out.

If any of these names send familiar to you, please let me know. Thanks for your help!

Hello, I was very surprised to hear from a Miller family from Tamaqua. The probability of a relation is pretty good. The Kellners were most likely from the same village of my ancesters (Sus).
My great great great grandfather was Johannes George Martin Bahrt (Barth), born in Sus, Germany. He came to America in 1847 and in the 1850 Census was living with the Miller family in Tamaqua.
The family was of Christian Miller and they lived on Dutch Hill in Tamaqua (where St Johns old cemetery is). Martin (as he went by) most likely married Elizabeth Miller (daughter of Christian).

I traveled to Sus twice in the past 4 years and surprisingly found someone who was a resercher and knew all about my family that emmigrated (to Hazleton she said). She said that Miller, was not a German last name, and that it was most likely Mueller originally. I also found my distant relatives (almost 150 years) and I stayed with them. It's a long story how I found them (I have an unusual last name compared to Miller).

This is what I have.

Christian Miller (b abt 1811 Hessen-Kassel)
Martha b abt 1816
Elizabeth b abt 1837
Frederick W. b. abt 1841
John b abt 1844
Ernest b abt 1846
Louisa b abt 1848
Henry b abt 1850

(not all of these children were listed in the 1850 Census).

I have Frederick married possibly to a Catherine E. (b 1854)
children: Annie, (b 1875), Katie (b 1877), George F (b. November 1879)

I then lost them after the 1880 Census I believe.

I have Henry Miller married possibly to a Clara. Children: Daniel, Mary, Roy (b. abt 1888), & Maria.


I believe they originally lived at 340 Market Street, and before that on Union Street. (next to the cemetery on Dutch Hill).

I have alot of information on the Bahrt side, but not much on the Miller. I wrote several letter to Millers in Tamaqua with no response several years ago. I even went to Tamaqua and spoke to people on Dutch Hill but the only Miller there wasn't home.
If you could send me more information on any Millers from Tamaqua it would be appreciated. I would like to connect them to my family if I can. It is possibly the reason I couldn't find the Millers from Union/Market street in later Census records is because they moved.

Hope to hear back, Jason (ps, my email adderss is policiaboy@hotmail.com It would be easier to access my email).

Hi, Do you know if they called Elizabeth Betty? And was she married to a Fred? Did she have a sister named Christiana shortened to Christine? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, Bev

We are also looking for the millers of Tamaqua. My Husband is the g-grandson of Christian Miller. We are having trouble finding details of for Christian before 1910 and have nothing more the the marriage records for Frederic and Dorothea in 1849 and a few census records. Would love to here from you .

Kathy Miller

Hello Kathy,
My laptop is at work, so from memory my Christian Miller died before 1890. He was married to a Martha, whos children included Elizabeth (my great great great grandmother) her brothers Frederick, John, and Henry? I can't remember all the names. you would have to send me what information you have to see if connects with mine. My email address is policiaboy@hotmail.com. Several months ago I mailed out about 60 letters to all the Millers in Tamaqua, and the 3 people who responded said they were not originally from the area. My Millers first lived on Union St then on Market St in the Census records, and sometimes lived by my family (the Bahrts). The earliest record I found on the Millers was the 1850 Census in Tamaqua. The Miller I have married to the Dorthea did not take place until after 1850 because in this census he was still very young. If your husbands' family is/was from Tamaqua you need to ask his oldest Miller relatives if they remember the Bahrt family. Some of the daughters were school teachers there. perhaps they know more. I do not know how old your husband is.

Jason Bahrt

Kathy,

Christian Miller (abt 1857) is the son of Fredrick and Dorotha(or Dorothea)as is my great-grandfather - John W.
Miller (abt 1855). Would love to see a copy of the marriage records. We have Fredrick & Dorotha born in Kurhessen,Hesse-Cassel which would now be in Germany, but need the city of birth to find any other records. Christian is listed in the 1860-70-80 census, but lost track of him after that.

If we can be of any other help - let us know.

Sue

PS you can send a copy of the marriage records to wrightrep@aol.com. Thanks!

Jason
Thanks for the quick reply. We are the oldest living generation. All of his Aunts and Uncles have since died. Until very recently, we thought we were definitely related to Frederick Miller of Tamaqua, but we have recently discovered that Christian, born 1859, was born in Hazleton, and that his father died when he was a child Two of his sisters were Elizabeth Zahn and Anne Meikrantz. Our Christian was a State legislator in the 1920's from Freeland. Unless we can trace Christian to one of the other Tamaqua brothers, we will have to revise our search.

Thanks again Kathy Miller

Hi Kathy, sorry I could not be of help. I do know that the last name Miller, if your ancestors were German, was originally Mueller. My relatives in Germany told me that. Miller is English. The Millers in Tamaqua were from the Hessen-Kassel, which is today the state of Hessen. I assume the Tamaqua Millers were from near the village of Sus, where my Bahrts were from. The main place for records of that area is called Nenterhausen.

any questions my email address is policiaboy@hotmail.com

Jason

Hi Sue. I was wondering if the surname LOESER or WOLSIFER ring any bells.

Best regards,
Bev

Hi Bev,

sorry -- nothing I am aware of at this time. Mostly Miller's and Kellner's. If I run across either of those
2 names -- will let you know.

Thank you Sue.

Good luck on you & yours.

Regards,
Bev

Most of the Kellners from Tamaqua are from the village of Sus, in Hessen, Germany.

Jason Bahrt

I am doing research for my grandmother Doris Elizabeth MILLER-GRIFFITHS who was born in 1929 in Tamaqua, PA. Her father was Robert Franklin MILLER born in 1904 in Tamaqua. His mother's name was Mame MNU but he was raised by his grandmother Clara M KERSHNER who was born in Tamaqua in 1866. She was married to a Francis MILLER who may or may not have been related to Robert. My grandmother never knew the identity of her paternal grandfather or her maternal great-grandfather.

This is quite confusing but I saw this post and was hoping that someone researching the MILLER Families of Tamaqua may at least recognize one of the following names: Robert Franklin MILLER (b.1904 - d.1989), Mame MILLER (b. c1880), Franklin MILLER (b. c1870), and/or Francis MILLER (b. c1855 - d. c1900).

Thanks,
Geoff Lawson

Hi Geoff, you would have to ask your relative where your Millers lived. My Millers lived on Dutch Hill in Tamaqua, on both Market St and earlier on Union Street. My Bahrt ancestors were teachers in Tamaqua, they had a school on Market St. Perhaps she remembers Grace Bahrt

Jason

I don't know Tamaqua at all so I don't which hill was Dutch Hill. Here is everything I know including the street names.

Robert Franklin Miller was born 16 Feb 1904 in Schuylkill County to a women named Mame and was raised by his maternal grandmother Clara Kershner-Miller and her husband Francis Miller somewhere in Tamaqua. It is possible that Robert’s father and/or mother were also Millers, the same family or another. I assume Robert took his name from his grandmother though because he spent his entire childhood in their house. They may have lived on Arlington Street.

He married Martha Elizabeth Urban on 20 Oct 1926 also in Tamaqua. In the late-20s they lived in Hometown, Schuylkill County where my grandmother Doris Elizabeth Miller was born on 6 Mar 1929. They lived on Arlington Street for many years throughout the 1930s and 40s. They lived a short time on Hunter, Rowe, and Lehigh Streets in the 40s and 50s. By the mid-50s they had moved to Broad Street. Robert was a highway engineer and had an office next door to the old movie theater that burnt down. They had a condo above the office. They moved to Meadowood Retirement Center in Worchester, Montgomery County in the mid-1980s. He died 26 May 1989 and she 4 Jan 1994. They are buried in Tamaqua. I forget the cemetery.

There was also a cousin named Roy Miller.

Hi Sue, I just reread one of your older posts and I do not think the Christian Miller (Mueller)i have is your Christian, however he could be a brother do your Frederick who married Dortea. I can help you with this, though. In regards to the Kellner, most of the Germans who settled in Tamaqua are from an area in Germany called Nenterhausen, which is in Hessen. My Bahrt side is from a village called Sus, which is also where the Kellners are from. I have Kellners in my family as well from Sus. With my Martin Bahrt moving to Tamaqua and living withthe Millers shows a relation and most likely your ancestors from the Kellner side were frorm Sus or from near there.

Jason Bahrt