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John Moore and Elizabeth Merritt - Elizabeth City County, Virginia

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John Moore and Elizabeth Merritt - Elizabeth City County, Virginia

Posted: 9 Sep 2007 12:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
I note that a number of people record John Moore was the son of Mary More and Edward Moore.
Mary More is sometimes said to be "of Barnborough",(or similar spellings), Yorkshire, England,.
Edward is said to be "of" various places, including Barnborough, Bampton, Oxford, Reading, London, Shropshire (a geographical area), and Ireland. Apart from Bampton (the parish, not the place) there is no documentary evidence for any of this.
Edward and Mary are said by some to have a son John Moore, and others add a daughter Mary Jane.

For those interested in this line I have to point out that
the sources for this information (when they are given) are seriously flawed with regard to this family.

With regard to 'Mary More', and with specific reference to her marriage to Edward Moore and to their children:
Mary More was born on 25 December 1553. This was not known until I first posted it on RootsWeb a few years ago.
Mary (and a younger sister) was born at Hambleden, Buckinghamshire (not Barnborough, Yorkshire) where her parents were living after their marriage in early 1553. Only later did they move to Barnborough (now Barnburgh), West Yorkshire, where the rest of their thirteen children were born. They later moved to Low Leyton, Essex.

Edward Moore's birth date is not recorded (any dates given are just guesses - not good genealogy).
The family were Catholic and the baptisms of their children were not recorded in the Church of England Parish Register. He was the son of Thomas More/Moore of Haddon (in the parish of Bampton), Oxfordshire, and his wife Dorothy Mordaunt.
The only thing known about Edward's early life was that he was a minor (but not an infant) when his father made his will in 1561.

After their marriage, most probably in 1585 (Edward was a convicted recusant in various London prisons for a few years before that), Mary and Edward lived with Mary's parents (Thomas More and Mary Scrope) on their small estate at Low Leyton in Essex.
Edward died intestate in 1605 and Mary (then living with one of her married daughters at Stondon Massey, Essex) in 1630.

Edward and Mary DID NOT have a son John or a daughter Mary Jane. The family had no connection whatsoever with any place in Shropshire where, some say, they were born.

Edward and Mary had two sons, Henry and Thomas, both of whom became Jesuit Priests. They also had five daughters: Isabel, Joan, Frances, Grace and Anne. Of these Joan, Grace and Anne became Benedictine Nuns.
My information is based on the family pedigree, on family papers, on a sworn statement about his family by Thomas More (son of Edward and Mary) when he entered the English College, Rome, on the history of the Jesuits, on records of the English Benedictine Nuns in Flanders, and on Court records of Recusancy in Essex.

It seems certain that the John Moore mentioned by most emigrated, age 36, from England to Virginia in 1620, in the ship 'Bona Nova', followed in 1622 by his wife Elizabeth in the 'Abigail'. Elizabeth's second name is usually given as 'Merritt'. The ships musters make no reference to any children travelling with either of them - so presumably they were childless, or they left their children (for which there is no documentary evidence)in England.
Because John Moore's age is given in the muster as 36, people have assumed he was born in 1584 - though some, who obviously haven't noticed this say he was born in 1576.

John and Elizabeth Moore settled in Elizabeth City County, Viginia, where he patented land at the head of the Little Poquoson Creek in 1535.

Eminent Americal genealogists researched all this in the 1890s and first decade of the 1900s - published in the William and Mary Quarterly and other papers.
They did not succeed in establishing John Moore's ancestry. They showed that he was sometimes confused - and still is - with a Captain John Moore (of unknown birthplace and ancestry) who arrived in Virginia around the same time, but who settled in Isle of Wight where he eventually became a Burgess.

The American genealogists established that John Moore and Elizabeth (second name said to be "Merritt") had only ONE son, Augustine. This Augustine married and had two children: Augustine II and John (who died childless in 1715-16).
Augustine II (grandson of John the immigrant) married Mary Woolley and had a number of children (including an Augustine who died unmarried in 1637).

As a footnote:
There is no connection between these Augustines and the Col. Augustine Moore who married (his second wife) Elizabeth Todd. The ancestry of Col. Moore is unknown.
He is said to have been born in England c.1585. He emigrated to Virginia with his first wife, Mary Gage, c.1715. He settled in King William County where he built a house that he called "Chelsea". Mary died giving birth to their first child. The child also died.
Col. Augustine later married Elizabeth Seaton, the widow of Henry Seaton, but by birth the daughter of Thomas Todd.
I hope that some people will find this information useful.
Martin Wood
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marwd124 9 Sep 2007 6:42AM GMT 
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