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Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

fwnelan — 2013-03-25 21:30:06Z

you can find a write up about Nicholas also on that website

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

fwnelan — 2013-03-25 21:28:38Z

i assume that you are looking for Ellen Nelan the other surnames are not in my research. Two brothers came to Kerry in 1730s for Co Clare John and Thomas. John fathered Nicolas and others. Thomas married Ellen Long. The name Ellen appeared frequently in the tree of Thomas but I see none in that of John. Visit nelan.org and you will see an Ellen that may fit in the tree of Thomas (his great granddaughter). This is the earliest one I see. She would be Nicolas's first cousin twice removed.

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

swanmak1 — 2013-03-25 20:05:07Z

I would be very much interested in the information on Nicholas Nelan. He is possibly a close relative of the Ellen Henesy born 2 September 1787 TRALEE
Father WILLIAM HENNESY Mother MARY PRENDIVIL to one of my line, or to the other Ellen Hennessy born in the same time period in Causeway. A family history book of the Church family indicates that there is a close relationaship, but not what it is.
Ellen, b perhaps about 1790 , married Charles Church of Causeway about 1810

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

fwnelan — 2013-03-25 18:15:15Z

I do not have the tree from Ron on his family from Thomas born 1845 that went to Australia. Write Chris and ask permission to share it with me. I have her email if you don't. I have his Thomas direct to John and Mary Dee and furnished him this information. The issue I am dealing with is which brother from Clare, Thomas or John connects to the John who married Mary Dee. My email is fnelan@elp.rr.com

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

Billets — 2013-03-25 17:49:42Z

Hi Fred ... The info I have from Ron is on paper and is dated 23 Jan 2003. It starts with John and Mary Dee. I will let you know more in a few days. Because it is on paper, the links are hard to follow.
Regards, Bill.

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

fwnelan — 2013-03-25 17:31:28Z

The John from Clare is a dead end for me everything since that is from Kerry. I like you knew Ron as well as his widow, Chris. I have no connection to Ron from the John and Mary Dee and would appreciate any tie in you can give me. I have the Info on the Australians from Kerry from Ron and his family but haven't gone there yet. Ron and I met first in Sydney in 1997 and then again in Kerry in 1998. I have returned to Kerry several times since and have done extensive work but like so many other things I got busy and put it aside some years back and am now resuming interest.

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

Billets — 2013-03-25 17:18:20Z

Hi Fred and Tim ... I'm Bill Maguire and I posted the initial query about the Nelans who came to the Ottawa Valley from Co. Clare. Since that posting, I have developed an extensive genealogy of two Nelan families, including my great grandfather. Both families are probably from the same root family in Ireland, Their descendants are now scattered around North America. I have not been able to connect them with their Irish roots. The Information I have is located as a family tree on Ancestry under the name "Maguire Gonneville." I can connect either of you to this private genealogy, if you wish. I would request that the 20th century portions of this genealogy not be included in public venues.

During my research, I connected with Ron Nelan of Australia, who is a direct descendent of John Nelan and Mary Dee. He also provided me with some interesting background on the family feud which resulted in Nicolas Nelan disowning his Nelan connection. As this is currently on paper, I will scan it over the next few days and post more later. As for the Australian family, I will co9ntact Ron's widow and request her permission to post the early parts of the Australian genealogy, which should complement what you already know.

I am also reaaly interested in knowing if the link between John and the Clare Nealns can be made. It was Ron's opinion that they were connected, but he was not successful in finding the evidence.

Regards ... Bill Maguire

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

fwnelan — 2013-03-24 20:32:35Z

Tim:
My name is Fred Nelan. I have been to Kerry and have done extensive research on the Nelans through the Catholic Church there as well as other sources. I believe that the Nelans from Ottawa Valley are descendents of the Nelans left behind in Co Clare when the two brothers Thomas and John came from Clare to Kerry in the 1730's. Can you help make a connect for me between the sons of that John who came from Clare and fathered the Nicholas you talk about and a John that married Mary Dee in 1785. Nicholas had two brothers James (8 kids) and Patrick (6 kids). The John I am trying to tie in is the beginning of an extensive tree that has a large number of Nelans still living in the area including Christie in Tralee.
Although it is my data someone else I have been communicating with posted it on www.nelan.org and you can refer to it to see what I am looking for. If I can tie in the John I ask about I can add a whole branch to the tree Also If you can help with any more data it is welcomed. There are several inaccuracies in it and it is by no means complete as I am looking for the answer above as well as many other things.

Fred

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

timothyjleahy — 2013-03-20 16:55:08Z

Hi Sandy,
Fr Nelan gave his House (Sandford House ) and lands to his nephew Thomas O Connor. I do not know why he did not give it to his nephews the Nelans.Thomas O Connor had two sons who qualified as medical doctors,I have a lot of information about these two.Thomas O Connor passed the house and farm to his son also Thomas O Connor, who in turn passed it to his daughter Madge O Connor who was my grandmother. Sandford House was demolished in the 1970s and my father built a much smaller house on the site.
Sandford House -where I was born,was a very big house. It had a large basement and three stories on top.
I have a photograph of it and I will send you a copy If you would like to see it.
Kind Regards,
Tim Leahy.

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

swanmak1 — 2013-03-17 00:00:53Z

That's wonderful!! Thank you for the offer.
We do hope to visit in a year or two.
Do you know anything about his parenta or siblings?
All the best,
Sandy

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

timothyjleahy — 2013-03-14 16:15:59Z

Hi I am a direct descendant of Fr nelan of Sandford House. We still live in Sandford and have all his vestments etc for saying mass all the time.
When you come to Ireland I will be happy to show them to you.
Regards,
Tim Leahy.

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

tgrand159 — 2012-09-29 16:03:53Z

FOR THE ENTIRE MARY MCKIERNAN 1880S PHOTO ALBUM GO TO:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=263365&id=79820579...

WITHIN THE MARY MCKIERNAN 1880S PHOTO ALBUM Here are photos of two pages of John McKiernan's life story as told to Father Patrick Sylvester Dowdall, parish priest at St. James The Less Roman Catholic Church, Eganville, Ontario. This information is found in my facebook photo album.
Share this link with the public:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=482443420797&l=16...

Feedback to tomgrand100@gmail.com is encouraged.
Sincerely,

Tom Grand

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

tgrand159 — 2012-09-29 16:02:26Z

FOR THE ENTIRE MARY MCKIERNAN 1880S PHOTO ALBUM GO TO
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=263365&id=79820579...

WITHIN MARY MCKIERNAN 1880S PHOTO ALBUM Here is a link to a picture of John McKiernan and his wife Sarah Nelan. It is photo # 20 in the album.
Share this album with anyone by sending them this public link:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=482443420797&l=16...

Background info:
# 20 Sarah (Nelan) and John McKiernan b&w tin plate photo.

John and Sarah (Nelan) McKiernan were the parents of Mary McKiernan (1856-1942).

John McKiernan:
b. 01 Nov 1821, Carncastle, County Antrim, Ireland
d. 9 Dec 1903
Grattan, Renfrew Co., Ontario Canada

John McKiernan was the son of the late Charles McKiernan and Mary McCurdy. His father had a little farm in Ireland. It was taken from him. He had five children: Charles, James, John, Mary Ann and Margaret.
The last half year John was in Ireland, 1841, he worked six months for 3 pounds 10 shillings. He was 20 years old at the time.
In 1841 he left on a steamer from Larne. The ship was out 10 days. sprang a leak and returned to Belfast for repairs.
John left again for America on May 23rd, 1842 on the Margaret Johnson, a vessel. He landed in Quebec; came by steamer to Montreal; then by small boat to Ottawa. He walked to Alymer, then took a boat to Chats.
From there John McKiernan took a horse railroad 3 miles to another boat which took him to Bonnechere Point (Grattan, or as we know it present day Eganville.)

(See # 20b & # 20c for the rest of John McKiernan's life story as he dictated it to a priest shortly before he died at age 84.)

John McKiernan was a farmer. He married Sarah Nelan on Sunday, January 30,1853 at St. Francis Xavier Roman Catholic Church, Renfrew Co., Ontario.
John was considerably older than his bride. He was 32.
Sarah Nelan (b 1835 Nov 10, County Claire Ireland, d 1907 June 10 Grattan) was 17. They walked together from Gratten to Renfrew through the forest for the wedding. Family oral history has it that John McKiernan carried his fiance over puddles so she wouldn't get her dress stained with mud.
Sarah Nelan was the daughter of Michael Nelan (b abt 1806 County Claire, Ireland; d 1895 Brudennel, Ontario, Canada) and Bridget Cunningham (b abt 1807 Ireland; d abt 1871).

John McKiernan and Sarah Nelan were married by Father Joseph Bonvier.
Sarah's father, Michael Nelan (47) and brother, David Nelan (21), were witnesses to the wedding.
(See # 20a for a copy of the written record of their marriage.)

John and Sarah (Nelan) McKiernan's 11 children were:

Mary McKiernan b. 04 June 1856 d. 29 Dec. 1942
Charles McKiernan b. abt 21 June 1858 d. 09 Mar. 1926
Bridget McKiernan b. 26 December 1859 d. abt 1921
Catherine McKiernan b. abt 1863 d. abt 1902
Michael McKiernan b. abt 1867 d. 1880
(Michael drowned in the Bonnechere River.)
Margaret McKiernan b. abt 1869
Sarah McKiernan b. 04 May 1871
Susan McKiernan b. abt 1874 d. abt 1897
Rose McKiernan b. 04 October 1876
John J. McKiernan b. 06 July 1879 d. 27 Feb. 1943
James P. McKiernan b. 20 Sept 1883 d. abt 1913

Obituary: John McKiernan
The Eganville Leader, December 9, 1903:
Died, John McKiernan, 83. Born in Co. Antrim, Ireland. Came to Canada in 1842 ; settled in Grattan, among the first to take up land in that section. Married Sarah Nelan and last February they celebrated their golden wedding. 11 children; three dead, Michael, Susan and Mrs John Neville. Surviving with the widow are Charles, John, James, Mrs John Shields, Bridget, Margaret-a religious in St. Joseph`s, Toronto, Mrs. Robert Devine of Pembroke, Rose.

Obituary: Sarah (Nelan) McKiernan:
The Eganville Leader, June 14, 1907:
Died in Grattan: Sarah Nelan, relict of John McKiernan.
Born County Clare, Ireland November 10, 1835 and came to Canada 1844. Married 1853 to John McKiernan of Mount St. Patrick. Golden wedding three years ago. 11 children: 4 sons, 7 daughters, 8 living: Mrs. John Shields; Charles: Margaret; Sister St. Catherine; Mrs. Robert Devine; Bridget; Rose; John; James.

John and Sarah McKiernan are buried in St. James The Less, plot# 263, Eganville, Renfrew County, Ontario, Canada.
The 1881 Canada Census for Grattan Twp., Renfrew Co., Ontario, recorded the McKiernan name as McKieman.
The 1891 Canada Census for that same location recorded the McKiernan as McErman.

Any feedback is welcomed. E-mail Tom Grand, Burlington, Ontario.
tomgrand100@gmail.com

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

tgrand159 — 2012-09-29 16:00:54Z

For the entire MARY MCKIERNAN 1880S PHOTO ALBUM GO TO
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=263365&id=79820579...

WITHIN THE MARY MCKIERNAN 1880S PHOTO ALBUM Here is a picture of John McKiernan and Sarah Nelan.

It is photo # 20 Sarah (Nelan) and John McKiernan b&w tin plate photo.
Note: There is a lot more information including John McKiernan's life story as dictated to Father Patrick Sylvester Dowdall which was typed up by his nephew Mike McKiernan.
Share this web photo album with anyone by sending them this public link:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=482443420797&l=16...

John and Sarah (Nelan) McKiernan were the parents of Mary McKiernan (1856-1942).

John McKiernan:
b. 01 Nov 1821, Carncastle, County Antrim, Ireland
d. 9 Dec 1903
Grattan, Renfrew Co., Ontario Canada

John McKiernan was the son of the late Charles McKiernan and Mary McCurdy. His father had a little farm in Ireland. It was taken from him. He had five children: Charles, James, John, Mary Ann and Margaret.
The last half year John was in Ireland, 1841, he worked six months for 3 pounds 10 shillings. He was 20 years old at the time.
In 1841 he left on a steamer from Larne. The ship was out 10 days. sprang a leak and returned to Belfast for repairs.
John left again for America on May 23rd, 1842 on the Margaret Johnson, a vessel. He landed in Quebec; came by steamer to Montreal; then by small boat to Ottawa. He walked to Alymer, then took a boat to Chats.
From there John McKiernan took a horse railroad 3 miles to another boat which took him to Bonnechere Point (Grattan, or as we know it present day Eganville.)

(See # 20b & # 20c for the rest of John McKiernan's life story as he dictated it to a priest shortly before he died at age 84.)

John McKiernan was a farmer. He married Sarah Nelan on Sunday, January 30,1853 at St. Francis Xavier Roman Catholic Church, Renfrew Co., Ontario.
John was considerably older than his bride. He was 32.
Sarah Nelan (b 1835 Nov 10, County Claire Ireland, d 1907 June 10 Grattan) was 17. They walked together from Gratten to Renfrew through the forest for the wedding. Family oral history has it that John McKiernan carried his fiance over puddles so she wouldn't get her dress stained with mud.
Sarah Nelan was the daughter of Michael Nelan (b abt 1806 County Claire, Ireland; d 1895 Brudennel, Ontario, Canada) and Bridget Cunningham (b abt 1807 Ireland; d abt 1871).

John McKiernan and Sarah Nelan were married by Father Joseph Bonvier.
Sarah's father, Michael Nelan (47) and brother, David Nelan (21), were witnesses to the wedding.
(See # 20a for a copy of the written record of their marriage.)

John and Sarah (Nelan) McKiernan's 11 children were:

Mary McKiernan b. 04 June 1856 d. 29 Dec. 1942
Charles McKiernan b. abt 21 June 1858 d. 09 Mar. 1926
Bridget McKiernan b. 26 December 1859 d. abt 1921
Catherine McKiernan b. abt 1863 d. abt 1902
Michael McKiernan b. abt 1867 d. 1880
(Michael drowned in the Bonnechere River.)
Margaret McKiernan b. abt 1869
Sarah McKiernan b. 04 May 1871
Susan McKiernan b. abt 1874 d. abt 1897
Rose McKiernan b. 04 October 1876
John J. McKiernan b. 06 July 1879 d. 27 Feb. 1943
James P. McKiernan b. 20 Sept 1883 d. abt 1913

Obituary: John McKiernan
The Eganville Leader, December 9, 1903:
Died, John McKiernan, 83. Born in Co. Antrim, Ireland. Came to Canada in 1842 ; settled in Grattan, among the first to take up land in that section. Married Sarah Nelan and last February they celebrated their golden wedding. 11 children; three dead, Michael, Susan and Mrs John Neville. Surviving with the widow are Charles, John, James, Mrs John Shields, Bridget, Margaret-a religious in St. Joseph`s, Toronto, Mrs. Robert Devine of Pembroke, Rose.

Obituary: Sarah (Nelan) McKiernan:
The Eganville Leader, June 14, 1907:
Died in Grattan: Sarah Nelan, relict of John McKiernan.
Born County Clare, Ireland November 10, 1835 and came to Canada 1844. Married 1853 to John McKiernan of Mount St. Patrick. Golden wedding three years ago. 11 children: 4 sons, 7 daughters, 8 living: Mrs. John Shields; Charles: Margaret; Sister St. Catherine; Mrs. Robert Devine; Bridget; Rose; John; James.

John and Sarah McKiernan are buried in St. James The Less, plot# 263, Eganville, Renfrew County, Ontario, Canada.
The 1881 Canada Census for Grattan Twp., Renfrew Co., Ontario, recorded the McKiernan name as McKieman.
The 1891 Canada Census for that same location recorded the McKiernan as McErman.

Any feedback is welcomed.
E-mail Tom Grand, Burlington, Ontario, Canada
tomgrand100@gmail.com

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

tgrand159 — 2012-09-29 15:57:28Z

I have three Nelan pictures from a 1880s photo album.
They are marked PS #20, PS # 26, PS #34.
PS stands for Photo Shopped.

See the photo album at
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=263365&id=79820579...

This link leads you to a series of postage stamp sized pictures.
Click any picture to bring up the full picture in slide show format.
Click on an arrow to the right and to the left half way up the picture to go forward and backward.
Any information I have on the picture is printed below the pictures.

PS #20 is a picture of a Sarah Nelan from the 1880s.
There are 3 versions of the picture.
She is standing by her husband John McKiernan who is seated on a chair.
Sarah (Nelan) McKiernan b. 10 Nov 1835 County Clare, Ireland
d. 11 Jun 1907 Eganville, Renfrew Co., Ontario, Canada
John McKiernan b. 01 Nov 1821 Carncastle, Co. Antrim, Ireland
d. ABT Dec 1903
Grattan, Renfrew Co., Ontario, Canada
Sarah & John are the parents of my great grandmother, Mary McKiernan.
The picture is from my Mary McKiernan's photo album.
Mary McKiernan was born 04 Jun 1856 in Grattan (present day Eganville), Renfrew Co., Ontario, Canada
She died 29 Dec 1942 in Eganville, Ontario.

PS #26 is a picture of J Nelan.
There are two versions of the picture.

PS #34 is a picture of M Nelan.
There are three versions of the picture.

You can check out the picture to see if he is these Nelans are related to you.
Any feedback you can give would be appreciated.

Sincerely,

Tom Grand
Please use my e-mail address for any replies.
tomgrand100@gmail.com

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

tgrand159 — 2012-09-23 21:55:01Z

Old email address tgrand@inventzworld.com has been cancelled.

Tom Grand new email address:
tomgrand100@gmail.com

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

jessi5271 — 2012-04-04 03:11:21Z

I'm not sure if anyone would know, but it's worth a shot...

I'm Jessica Nelan, the daughter of Daniel M. Nelan and granddaughter of Cornelius Nelan. Cornelius emigrated from Ireland and later settled in NY and then NJ with his wife, Marion, and 9 children. I'm interested in tracing his history to my family in Ireland, that I know exist, but that I have never met/don't know. Thanks!

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

cwanamak_1 — 2011-07-04 16:02:10Z

OUr connection is to the Reverend Nicholas Nelan b ?, d 1831 Killury, Kerry, son of John Nelan of Sandford House.
(Killury Cemetery- John Nelan/Father of Nicholas Nelan, Sanford, 1771)In the same cemtery are stones for Mary Nelan (Died 17/7/58) Ballinglanna and Nicholas Nelan Family, Ballyronan

Nicholas was appointed parish priest of Killury, Ratoo and Ballyheige in 1786. At his death, he left large bequests to the children of his brother James and Patrick, and a 100 pound bequest to build the first school in the area, which was completed in 1834, it's first schoolmaster being John Church, son of Charles Church of Causeway.
John Nelan had a brother Thomas of Ballinglanna who married Ellen Long of Kiltomey

Nicholas Nelan is believed to have been a close realtive of Ellen Henesy who married Charles Church c 1810

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

billets88 — 2010-03-07 14:03:28Z

Hi Jeffrey. Glad to hear from you. I have lots of info and will share through direct contact. I have sent you a message that you should receive through Ancestry.

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

JeffreyNelan — 2010-03-06 22:48:57Z

Hello, My name is Jeffrey Nelan. My father's name is Daniel Joeseph Nelan. We are From Sacramento California and i am interested in where my family came from and some of our distant relatives who are still alive.

Ellen Nelan & Michael McHugh & Thomas P. McHugh

spencerfolk2 — 2006-06-17 02:02:29Z

Looking for info on Thomas P. McHugh who married Maria Bohan in 1881 in Omaha, NE. Thomas was b.1858 in PA to Michael & Ellen Nelan McHugh. Maria was the dau. of James & Bridget Casey Bohan.

James R. Nelan -bio

pa_bios — 2006-06-15 17:02:57Z

Biography of James R. Nelan

http://www.historicpa.net/bios/2j/james-r-nelan.html

NELAN

Rtuxford — 2006-04-25 10:10:22Z

Can anyone help me with family history/tree information about descendants or ascendants of the following?

Elsie June Nelan& Harold George Ball, who had a daughter Christine Grace.

As I research my families widely, both for my own family tree purposes and as a gift to friends and their families, I would really appreciate any family tree and relevant research copies from anyone in any country who is researching the NELAN name, or perhaps some leads to already existing websites where this type of information can be found.

If anyone wishes to send me information, either a Gedcom or a file attached to an email would be very welcome. I would be quite happy to send anyone who requests it all the information I have in return. I run Legacy 6 as a genealogy programme on my computer.

Thanks for your assistance, everyone.

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

2003-08-19 03:04:36Z

That would be great!!! How could we proceed? I can be contacted at kjnelan@wi.rr.com and can forward any informaton to the rest of my family including my Cousin Bill who started the thread.

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

2003-08-19 01:12:10Z

I can probably answer your Nelan Questions

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

2003-08-19 01:10:48Z

I have the history of the nelans of County Kerry and can probably clear up a lot of your questions

Re: NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

kjnelan — 2003-08-15 13:23:07Z

I am from the family of Nelan's that lived in Sault Ste Maire. My father's name was James Patrick Nelan, who's Father's name was Daniel (I don't know the middle name) and Mother's name was Zita Mae Gillespie (also from Ireland.)

My understanding is our family line came from Ireland, but I don't know where from.

The only living reletives that I know of are in Sacramento California (Danny) and I think Mary is still alive in New York. (but I'm not sure of the state or if she is still alive.)

I can try to find more information if this is the Nelan line that you are looking for.

Sincerely,

Ken Nelan

NELAN family from Ireland to Ottawa Valley ~ 1849

Billets — 2002-09-29 03:30:06Z