Suzanne, I had intended to send this directly to you, but the message bounced, so I guess I'll have to send it to the forum.

If I am correct, Archibald and my Andrew were first cousins, once removed. Their common ancestor was almost certainly Isaac Noe (ca. 1710-1777), who was born and died in New Jersey. Andrew was born ca. 1760-62 in New Jersey, probably Middlesex County. He was a Revolutionary War veteran, married sometime around 1785 to Apphia (Effie) Marsh. They moved in the early 1790s to North Carolina, a move I have still not been able to explain. Their stay there was short, and by the mid 1790s, they were in Hamilton County, Ohio. About 1809 they moved to Clermont County, Ohio, and then beginning in the early 1820s, his adult children began, one by one, moving their families to newly opened country in Rush County, Indiana. About 1830, Andrew and Effie also moved to Rush County, where they both died. Andrew was a farmer and also worked for many years in Cincinnati as a shoemaker. Beginning probably 1847, most of the families in this branch of the Noe family began moving their families to newer territory in southeast Iowa, Mahaska, Monroe, Marion and Wapello counties.

As to the religious affiliation of the Noe clan, I have never run across any suggestion of a Jewish background. Pierre Nuee (Peter Noe) the immigrant was a Huguenot (French Protestant), who apparently was born in what is today Belgium, very near the present border between Belgium and France. The earliest record we have of him is in the French Church in Mannheim, Germany, where his marriage and the birth of some of his children are recorded. He immigrated first to New Amsterdam (New York) in 1663, but apparently sometime after 1665 returned to Mannheim, and then came back to New York sometime in the mid 1670s. At that time he settled on Staten Island, but eventually moved across the river (sound?) to Elizabethtown, New Jersey. The early generations in this country were almost all Presbyterian, which is not surprising, since Huguenots were Calvinists. After 1800, and particularly after large numbers of Pierre's descendants began moving west, they became mostly Methodists, with a sprinkling of Baptists, and others.

While Pierre came directly to this country from Germany, he was not German. He was French. There are many Noes in Germany today, but all the German Noes that I have seen traced back to the 17th century came originally from France. Probably most of them were Huguenots who fled France to escape religious persecution. I presume, although I have no direct evidence, that is why Pierre was living in Mannheim. Noe is not a German name. Rather it is French, the French form of the name Noah. In fact, in this country, some of the Noes have anglicized their name to Noah. Incidentally, virtually all of Pierre's descendants pronounce the name as two syllables, "No-ee". There is a separate Noe family in North Carolina descended from an eighteenth century immigrant named Peter Noe, who also pronounce the name as two syllables. All of the other early Noe families in this country of whom I am aware pronounce the name as one syllable, "No". Pronunciation is a handy way of separating the families who originate in the New York-New Jersey area, and the North Carolina area from those families who originate in the Maryland-Virginia area.

Incidentally, I notice you are referring to Archibald as "your" Archibald. Have you found information which definitely establishes Archibald as Angenove's father? If so, I would be very pleased to see it. I am in the process of preparing what I expect to be a publication on the descendants of Pierre Noe, and filling out Archibald's family would be very satisfying to me and help to make the result more complete. If you could provide me with information about Angenove's descendants for a couple of generations, I would be most grateful.

Well, I guess I have rambled on long enough. I hope some of this helps.

David Hudson
Coralville, Iowa