I am unsure where the info on John V Oram b.1821 NY and Adele(Della)b.1825 NY came from, but I am a direct line and have documents that state that Adell(many spellings)was born a "Bracknere" NOT a Broneoni. Since she was from France-this makes perfect sense. If anyone out there is interested in this NY/NJ branch of the Orams, just let me know. John and Adele had 8 children- of whom 7 lived to maturity. They are born from 1842 to 1864. This family moved from NYC to Hudson County, NJ in 1873. John's father, George, was the son of Cooper Oram, who came from Talbot,MD, via Penn and NJ. I have too much info to give unless really needed or wanted.