Orban - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN

ellemdee4 — 2009-02-25 14:17:06Z

Hi Bruce

Thanks for the info. Those names didn't ring any bells but I now have more info. About 6 years ago my oldest son started the search for ancestors and he went to the cemetary where my parents, all 4 grandparents and 2 great-grandparents are buried. Other family members are also there, different last names but all in the same area. They were kind enough to give him a copy of the interment records for each.

Included was the record for Anna Van Pietersom b 22 Aug 1856, d 4 Oct 1936. I don't know why but I have never done a search on her before. I did so now using the dates. I did find a Census record for Anna in 1910 showing her widowed and living with her married daughter Minnie. She also had a 12 year old son Walter. The Census record showed Walter's father was born in NY. I found another record for 1920 showing Anna and Walter still living together but no longer with Minnie married name Gutchern.

I don't know what connection she may have to my family. She was 12 years older than my great-grandfather. I'm guessing she was either an unmarried sister or the wife of an older brother. But why buried alone? Unless she was married to Anton buried in Union Cemetary and someone misread a 6 for a 0 in a handwritten record. See below.

I also found an Anna b about 1850 married to Anton also b abt 1850 who died 12 Oct 1887 and is buried in Union Cemetary, Milwaukee. He was also found on Census of 1880 in Milwaukee with family. It says he was a cigar maker. My great-grandfather John was a cigar maker. Anton and Anna's children are given as Anna, Antonia and Anton.

A 1900 census record of my great-grandfather John M says his parents were both born in Holland.

I've found many transcriptions of census records to be a bit off, the handwriting hard to read. Perhaps "Anton" is a shortened version of Antonius? I'm also wondering if Richard might also have had a brother John?

I'm still trying to connect the dots. Maybe some of this info works for you?

I'll be in touch if I can find more and would appreciate it if you would let me know of anything you find.

Laurie

Re: GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN

BruceHarshberger1943 — 2009-02-22 04:13:23Z

Dear Laurie:

Thanks for the response!
We likely are not related...very closely, anyway.

But, I have a little info on Janet's Van Pietersom family given to me by a kind lady who checked the Milwaukee Library.
Janet's mother was Gertrude Van Pietersom.
Gertrude's father was Arthur Van Pietersom, born in Milwaukee in 1883.
Arthur's father was Richard Van Pietersom (erroneously misspelled in various places as " Van Peterson), born in New York City.
Richard's father was Antonius Van Pietersom, born in Holland, Europe.
I have guessed, from records, that Richard had a brother named Antonius.

I haven't check yet, but I beleive all this is in my family tree online in Ancestor.com.

Did any names ring a bell?
--Bruce

GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN - UPDATE

ellemdee4 — 2009-02-21 19:30:22Z

Since posting my original query, I have learned the following information:

My grandmother, Laura Margarthe Henritta Orban was the daughter of Alfred Adam Orban and Johanna Underberg. Johanna was born in the Netherlands. Alfred was born in Milwaukee, the son of Freidrich and Margarthe (Eichard) Orban. Both were born in Germany. Alfred died 5 Oct 1894, 5 weeks after my grandmother was born. There was a son Alvin born in 1891 and another daughter, Alma (Mrs. Theordore Jahnke) born in 1893. Alfred had several siblings.

Johanna was the daughter of Johann and Henrika (Pothaar) Underberg. Johanna was the only daughter but had 5 brothers.

I would love to hear from anyone decended from these persons and to learn more about them.

Re: GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN

ellemdee4 — 2009-02-21 19:19:11Z

Hello Bruce

I'm not "Barb" and don't know if your message will go to her. Her post was a reply to my original post as stated in the subject line.

My grandfather was Arthur John Van Pietersom, son of John and Crescentia (Rauch) Van Pietersom. He was born 2 Oct 1893 in Milwaukee. He did not have a granddaughter named Janet but he did have 4 brothers who may have had a son named Arthur. I know there was a Bertin and a Harold but I'm not sure of any others.

There is also the possibility that your wife's family is decended from a brother of my Great-Grandfather John. I don't know anything about siblings he may have had.

Perhaps any information you wife has regarding her Van Pietersom ancestors would help us make a connection. I know there weren't a lot of them.

Laurie

Re: GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN

BruceHarshberger1943 — 2009-02-21 17:39:12Z

Dear Barb:

My wife Janet's grandfather was Arthur Van Pietersom, born in Milwaukee, WI. We might have a match here!

Bruce

Re: Orban of Maros-Torda, Hungary

latalbot — 2009-01-02 18:53:39Z

Julia Orban had a brother, Marton Orban, who was still living in Kibed (Chibed) a few years ago. He would be in his late 90's if he is still living. Thank you for your help.

Re: Orban of Maros-Torda, Hungary

wszombat_1 — 2008-08-20 22:05:48Z

i was for the second time in marosvasarhely, i've go through kibéd.next time i will ask or i will gao to the cemetery. it will be for the next year.
williams
21.08.2008

Susie ( Zsa Zsa) Orban

linwheeler1 — 2008-03-29 10:38:31Z

Looking for records. Susie came to America in 1913, age 15, on vacation and couldn't return to Hungary. 1920 census- married A Smutko, living in PA, moved to WV early 1920s can't find Census records after 1920. Need passenger list and/or Hungarian birth records.

Re: ethel Orban

queenie78 — 2007-11-12 02:25:24Z

My husband, Joe Volpi born l947 also took lessons from Ms. Orban from 1956 to 1958. He talks of her often. Did you ever find her?
Thanks to her my husband enjoys the piano and plays often.
Thanks for any info.
Eileen Wilde Volpi

Re: GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN

SeasonsGone — 2007-07-19 11:41:01Z

Ok, just trying to help a tad!

I grew up in Wauwatosa and when I was growing up there were only eight families in the Milwaukee phone book with the last name of Van Pietersom.

Good luck to you,
Barb

Re: GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN

hwydds — 2007-07-19 11:34:05Z

I'm afraid that wasn't my grandfather Arthur. He had 4 brothers, John, William, Frank and Fredrick but no Erwin. Possibly a cousin tho. My Great-Grandfather's name was John and the family lived in Milwaukee.

Re: GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN

SeasonsGone — 2007-07-19 11:21:41Z

i BELIEVE MY STEP GRANDFATHER, ERWIN J. VAN PIETERSOM HAD A BROTHER NAMED ARTHUR.

BARB

Orban

Fedor_Orban — 2006-01-20 21:52:03Z

All of a congratulation from Ukraine (last Hungary)!
I search for the relatives in USA and Canada where in the beginning of century my grandfather Aleks Orban worked.
I wait for answers.
Yours faithfully, F.Orban

GRANDMOTHER'S FAMILY - ORBAN IN WISCONSIN

ellemdee4 — 2005-05-09 18:51:04Z

I'm looking for any and all information on my paternal grandmother's family. Her name was Laura Margarita Henrietta Orban. She married Arthur Van Pietersom in the late 19teens or very early 20's in Milwaukee, Wis. She had a sister Alma who's only child (son) died in WWII. I can't recall her last name. I think there was a brother too. They may have been born in Germany or Holland or the parents were. Orban may not have been their "birth name". Any info will be greatly appreicated!!

Orban - Harrison County, Ohio

DLaFromboise — 2005-04-10 11:14:29Z

THE HARRISON NEWS HERALD
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Pub. January 24, 2004
Page C - 3
Harrison County, Ohio

OBITUARY : MICHAEL JAMES KIRK

Michael James Kirk, infant son of Wayne and Dianne ( Orban ) Kirk of Adena, died January 15, 2004.

Surviving are his parents ; brother, Tyler Kirk ; sisters, Danielle and Tracy Kirk ; paternal grandparents, Oliver and Sara Kirk of Adena ; maternal grandparents, John Orban and wife Myra of Adena , Fiona Keir of Cleveland ; uncles, aunts and cousins.

A private family committal service was held at the Shortcreek Friends Cemetery in Adena.

Arrangements by Borkoski Funeral Home, Adena.

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I am not related , just a courtesy posting.

Nicolas Orban Obit-2004 Pa. (Born Hungary)

S_Ihrman — 2004-08-24 23:34:49Z

"Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Sun., March 28, 2004
Orban Nicolas
On Wed., March 24, 2004...age 81...beloved husband of the late Eva Orban; loving father...having been born in Moson, Hungary in 1922. Mr. Orban was a holocaust survivor....manager for MSSI...accomplished artist...www.burtonlhirschfuneralhome.com. Please sigh the guest book at post-gazette.com" not my family

Re: Joseph Orban b. abt 1840 in Belgium, m Jeanne Cresson

AlainBertrand — 2004-03-06 02:56:16Z

Hello,

I'm on a friend's computer searching.

Very interested by your question.
From where are your Orban family in Belgium?

I have a very big databank with most of the Belgian ORBAN.
One of my cousins also made on Yahoo Groups a small group about the Orban

Here are my 2 mail adresses:

Yvon@netbel.be

and

Yvon_Orban@Myfamily.com

I hope to have some news from you soon so we can compre.

Yvon ORBAN
Bruxelles

Re: Francies/Frank Orban, Belgium to Canada to Mass USA

AlainBertrand — 2004-03-06 02:54:15Z

Re: Looking for Orbans

2003-07-07 09:23:10Z

I have had problems with my site. It has been transferred to Tripod and the address now is

http://andreorban.tripod.com/orban.html

Re: Relative search, Hungary

2003-02-18 02:57:12Z

I'm sorry i have no information regarding the Orban family. I am doing a search under Vandelin and came across your message. My father James Vandelin, who passed in June of 2001 is the last in his line as far as i know (other than myself). I'm looking for any further information you could possibly provide me about the Vandelin family you might be familiar with in Jackson, MI. I am also from Michigan. Thank you so much for your help, and i wish you the best of luck in your search. Ellen Vandelin
email: FallenAngel3765@hotmail.com

Re: curiosity

2002-12-07 01:51:38Z

I just read your reply to the message board. You asked if I knew anything else about my father. The only other piece of paper that I have is a letter written in German to my mother. Enclosed in the letter is a document with the following information. It is written in Hungarian and I do not know what it says. I am going to type it in exactly as it is. NYILATKOZAT. Orban Miklos olaszfan 1962aprilis 20 an elhalt olaszfai lakos hagyateka ugyeban gyermekem, kiskoru orban Ruth torvenyes kepviselojekent kepviselettemmel a hagyateki eljarsban, anyosomat, ozvegy orban miklosne vara anna olaszfai lakost bizom meg. egyben kiskoru orban ruth neveben az oroksegre igenyt tartok. Could you translate it for me and let me know who these names are? I know my father had a brother and his family owned a farm. My mother did not keep in contact with them after my father died. I am very excited to hear something after two years. Thank you for your help. Ruth

Re: curiosity

2002-11-28 09:29:59Z

I live in Olaszfa. Do you know any other infos about your father? Where he lived (street) or did he mention some people's name)
I try to find some info about your father.

Orbans from Romania Birthalm/Scharosch

2002-01-08 17:13:15Z

Still searching for siblings and other relations to our Orbans. Here is what I have for our Romanian Orbans.

[1] Georg Orban b. 1920, son of Georg Orban [2] & Luise Maurer{3};
[2] Georg Orban b. 1886, father of [1] and son of Georg Orban [4] & Ana
Bothazi [5];
[3] Luise Maurer b. 1891, mother of [1] and dau. of Michael Maurer [6] &
Maria Kloos [7];
[4] Georg Orban b. 1859, father of [2] and son of Johann Orban [8] &
Barbara Parmeri [9];
[5] not recorded
[6] Michael Maurer b. 1845, father of [3] and son of Michael [12] and
Regina Loreni [13];
[7] Maria Kloos, mother of [3] and dau. of Georg Kloos [14] and Anna
Katharina Leutschaft [15];
[12] Michael Maurer, b. 1817, father of [6] and son of Michael Maurer [24] &
Sara Bielz [25]
[13] Regina Julia Loreni, mother of [6] and dau. of Samuel Loreni [26] &
Sopfia Caspari [27];
[14] Georg Kloos, b. 1805, father of [7] and son of Georg Kloos [28] &
Susanna Erkeder [29];
[15] Anna Katharina Leutschaft, mother of [7] and dau. of Andreas Johann Leutschaft [30] &
Maria Buchholzer [31]

Re: Orban's of San Bernadino County California

2001-11-11 08:18:36Z

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Re: ethel orban

2001-11-11 08:00:48Z

If you born in Ontario.California. pleasse Reaply.Thank You .AOrban@webtv,Net

Orban's of San Bernadino County California

2001-04-03 15:27:28Z

Looking for Orban's who lived in San Bernadino County California in the 1960's.

Orban

2001-02-27 13:17:08Z

My grandfather Louis Orban came from Hungary. He had a brother -Gasper. I know there were other family members but have never met them. If you research Canada, all provinces, you will note that there are plenty of Orbans from Hungary around here. My grandfather had, I believe 18 children. He died in 1990 at the age of 96. I hope this helps you. My cousin Tim Orban from Whitecourt Alberta, Canada has done alot of research with respect to our family. He has maps, names etc. I am not at home so I do not have his email. Good Luck. Wanda Lamothe nee Orban.

I like to know if anyone new my father?

2001-01-27 18:28:50Z

he lived in budapest Hungry, his name was Istvan orban I was born in budapest he died 10 years ago, i have no other relatives I know he had 2 brothers I do not think they even know he died. he was born in 1937 april.

i like to know if anyone new my father

2001-01-27 18:25:19Z

he lived in budapest, his name was Istvan orban i was born in budapest he died 10 years ago, i have no no other relatives i know he had 3 brothers i do not think they even know he died. he was born in 1937 april.

orban

2001-01-02 12:19:28Z

my gr-gr vader is joseph ORBAN1848*Eugenie' DETRIXHE1849/1885 LIEGE,had een sone gerard.joseph1872*elza j. CHARLIER......liege
y look after ancesters from dis fammilie in belgie

Orbans from Hungary

2000-12-19 11:38:59Z

Actually I was just fooling around, punching in names of old friends when I saw your message. Going back to high school in the 60's, a classmate and neighbor/friend was Ervin Orban. He had a younger brother "Gabe", and a "kid" brother whose name I do not recall. That was in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Many of the kids I knew were from Latvian, Hungarian, and other European families "displaced" after WW II. Ervin didn't know for sure where in Europe he was born, as I recall.
Anyway, Michigan might be one good search locale. Good luck!

ethel orban

2000-10-30 09:34:05Z

Virginia, I have been looking for my birth mother. I was born in 1961 to an Ethel Orban and was given up for adoption. PLEASE contact me with any info you may have.

Orbán

2000-10-21 18:44:48Z

Are you related to Orbán Janós? 1846-1921
Lövéte, Üdvárhély,Hungary: This is now
Lueta,Harghita,Romania
Orbán Ferencz 1825-1905 (approx)
Orbán Miklós 1795-1860 (approx)
All lived in Transylvania

Orbán

2000-10-21 18:37:42Z

Are you related to Orbán Janós? 1846-1921
Lövéte, Üdvárhély,Hungary: This is now
Lueta,Harghita,Romania

curiosity

2000-09-18 18:50:00Z

my natural father died in 1960. his name was
niklos orban and he was born in olaszfa hungary on 6/1/1939. he left hungary in 1956 and lived in germany until his death. he married my mother ingeborg and lived in saarlouis. he had a relative named mary papp that lived in south river new jersey during the 50's. if anyone thinks this sounds familiar or know anything. drop a line.

Orbin, Kenneth R

CarolPackUrban — 2001-06-22 12:44:17Z

There is no surname board for Orbin so I am posting this to the Orban and Urban boards.

From the Tribune Review, Greensburg, PA; Jan 4, 2000:

Kenneth R Orbin, 82, of Youngwood, PA, died on Monday, Jan 3, 2000 in Greensburg. He was born October 2, 1917 in Youngwood. He was a son of George W and Mary N Youger Orbin.

He was preceded in death by his parents and first wife, Helen Weibel Orbin, sisters Mary Elder and Pauline Orbin, and brothers George, Alfred, Ralph and Robert Orbin. He is survived by wife Laverne Lind Orbin, son Dennis R Orbin, and two brothers Charles and Paul Orbin.

Funeral home in charge of arrangements is C Richard McCauley in Youngwood. Burial in Westmoreland County Memorial Park in Greensburg.

Orban - Hungary/Romania to Cleveland, Ohio

schimmelmann — 2001-10-29 02:37:31Z

Looking for info on one Eugene Orban born in 1891 in Translyvania, Romania - died Feb 1958. He had 5 children (Louis, Louise, Eugene, William, and Margaret) and his wife's name was Rosa. Believe his father was Gaspard. Looking for info on parents and Eugene himself and his wife Rosa.

My grandmother was a Orban from Budapest..

chardon22 — 2003-03-04 18:52:14Z

Who knows, we may be distantly related, although I have been told Orban is as common in Hungary as Smith is in the states. My grandmother Amelia had three sisters and one brother in the states. Another brother stayed in Hungary but in a different area than Budapest when he died. Her two sisters lived in the Cleveland area, as well as her brother. Grandma lived in Chicago. They were born in the late 1880's. I can give a little info if you need it but I don't have much. There is a site devoted to Orbans, run by a Belgium statesmen named Andrea Orban. It's in english/french and Hungarian. Sorry, I can't remember the address. Good luck!

marguerite orban

@@partsmanager@bright.net — 2002-10-20 02:24:53Z

i am interested in any info on marguerite orban who was married to maximien istase.they were both born in chatillon, luxembourgh, belgium. i need to fine out about them and their ancestors. they had one daughter, jeanne marie, who was married to charles warnement.both were born in belgium in 1790. if you have any info on my ancestors please contact me at partsmanager@bright.net thank you jeannie.

Francies/Frank Orban, Belgium to Canada to Mass USA

ribaorban — 2001-10-06 20:39:38Z

Looking for information on Francies/Frank Joseph Orban. Born 1864-1865 in Belgium. Emigrated to Canada, probably Quebec before 1893. Married Lumina/Mina/Mary Sindoun(?) born 1868 - 1869 in Canada. Had 9 children. Moved to Massachusets between 1898 and 1903.

Joseph Orban b. abt 1840 in Belgium, m Jeanne Cresson

ribaorban — 2003-12-18 13:27:49Z

Looking for Information for Joseph Orban, born about 1840 in Belgium. Married Jeanne Cresson in Belgium. Emigrated to Canada in about 1882.

Orban of Maros-Torda, Hungary

latalbot — 2003-03-15 06:29:51Z

I am looking for information on my grandmother's parents. Her name was Julia Orban born 1891 in Kibed, Maros-Torda, Hungary. Her father's name was Lajos (Lewis) Orban and mother was Julia Matyus. I would like birthdates and places, marriage date and place, and death dates and place.

Re: Orbán

latalbot — 2003-03-11 07:06:38Z

My grandmother was Julia Orban born 1891 Kibed, Maros-Torda, Hungary (now Chibed, Mures, Romania) Her parents are Lajos (Lewis) Orban and Julia (Matyus?)

Re: Looking for Orbans

maggievanzo — 2003-06-24 22:18:48Z

I went to the site but none of the links would work.

Re: Looking for Orbans

brakeguy47 — 2002-11-02 02:52:12Z

go to Orban Family website run by Andre Orban:
www.geocities.com/andreorban02/index.html
Andre --in Belgium--has much info about Orbans.
Thanks, Tim Orban

Re: Looking for rels. of Alfred Orban

sgulovsen — 2002-07-12 02:45:02Z

I found the marriage record for Frank Orban and Lena Geisler. They were married in Jersey County, Illinois on , 14 May 1889. Lic # 00001505. The only other info I have is that Frank and his sister Mary came over in the 1880's from Germany and settled in Brighton. Hope this helps.
Sarah Orban Gulovsen

Re: Orban, Kovach, Tokoley, Denny, Heyszzg

maggie4029011 — 2002-05-31 12:48:05Z

I am not sure if we can help each other or not. My great grandmother was Rose Orban. Although she lived in the United States, she had two brothers who lived in Europe(Not sure of the exact locale yet). Their names were Steven and James. Who knows, Maybe we found something?? You can e-mail at: maggie402901@mchsi.com

Looking for Orbans

maggie4029011 — 2002-05-31 12:41:58Z

I am doing the research on the Orban name for my daughter. I don't know much yet, but this is what I have found out:My Grandfather (on my dad's side) was married to Margaret Orban; Her parents were (Mother)Rose Orban and her step father was Adam Ruder. My grandfathers side was:Adam Ruder and Rose Orban (As you can see, it is quite complicated. They were step-brother and sister). Rose Orban was a resident of East Chicago Indiana for more than 60 years. She had four daughters: Elizabeth, Margaret, Ann, and Betty. Two sons: Peter and William. She had two brothers: Steven and James (Both in Europe). Any one who could help me research some more, I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks. Any information, please e-mail me at : maggie402901@mchsi.com

Re: Orban, Nicholas

suziuki — 2002-03-07 18:09:03Z

I don't know if this is the Nicholas (Miklos Orban) or not, but my Grandmother was born Suzanna Orban in Hungary in 1902. She didn't speak much english but I remember her talking about a brother. She married Karl Schuster, they had 6 children all over the place, Hungry, Romainia etc. and came to the US via New York sometime in the late 40's early 50's. If you have more info or think they may have been related, please let me know. Suzanna's mothers maiden name is noted as Borbe, but I can't confirm it.

Orban, Kovach, Tokoley, Denny, Heyszzg

starider007 — 2001-06-28 16:43:33Z

My great grandparents were Joseph Orban and Mary Magda Kovach (I'm not sure how to spell her last name properly. it's an americanized version). They lived in Tiltonsville, Ohio. Joseph's parents were Steve Orban and Rose Denny, both from Hungary, and Mary's parents were Steve Paul Kovach and mary Tokoley. I am also a descendent of Frank Denny and Elizabeth Heyszzg. It is very hard to find information on Hungarian ancestors, and I need all the help I can get.